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| thinrichs | Hi all. | 00:00 |
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| thinrichs | time for the congress meeting. | 00:00 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 00:00:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:00 |
| thinrichs | Who is here today? | 00:01 |
| masahito_ | I'm here | 00:01 |
| RuiChen | hi everybody | 00:01 |
| pballand | hi | 00:01 |
| Yingxin | hi | 00:01 |
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| alexsyip | Here. | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all! | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Liberty release | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | We're still in feature freeze, since we've yet to cut our first release-candidate. | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | But I think that just today we have our first candidate. | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | Here's the list of bugs we came up with during the first round of testing. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bugs/?field.tag=liberty-rc | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | You'll see that all but the ceilometer driver bug has been committed. | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | Before I forget—RuiChen, you're assigned to the ceilometer bug. Any progress. | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | ? | 00:04 |
| RuiChen | yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1492306 | 00:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492306 in congress "Ceilometer datasource errors on poll" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Rui Chen (kiwik-chenrui) | 00:05 |
| RuiChen | I think it is duplicate one | 00:05 |
| RuiChen | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1435620 | 00:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1435620 in congress "ceilometer_driver bug" [Medium,New] | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | RuiChen: agreed. I just marked the one without the libertyrc tag as a duplicate. | 00:07 |
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| RuiChen | I will try to fix it today, but if others have some idea for it, i can assige this bug to him | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | It's probably just that ceilometer's client/api has changed since we built the driver. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | I don't think any of the people here wrote the original ceilometer driver. | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | RuiChen: Go ahead and try to fix it today. | 00:09 |
| RuiChen | yeah, I will | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | If you don't figure it out, put what you found into the comments of the bug. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | I'll look at it in the morning. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | I think I'll cut the release candidate tomorrow morning whether we fix the ceilometer bug or not. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | I expect we'll end up with more bugs as clients get changed in the last couple weeks of the release cycle. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | Once we cut the RC, we can open master back up. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | And end feature freeze. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Branch_Model | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | For more info. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | One thing we should ALL be doing is manually testing Congress to find bugs. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | That's how we got that initial list of 10 to fix. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | We should also be running tempest tests to do sanity checks on our datasource drivers. | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | You'll need to do that manually since we disabled them for the gate. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | (If you recall, they were too flakey to have as gating tests, and we haven't gone back to fixing them.) | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Questions/comments? | 00:13 |
| zhenzanz | I guess some tempest cases are skipped in the code? | 00:14 |
| zhenzanz | should we bring them back if we want to run locally and manually? | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | zhenzanz: yes. It seemed that on the (slow) machines running gate tests, they failed fairly often. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | zhenzanz: yes—you just need to remove the @skipbecause decorator to reenable them. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | While we're on the topic of tempest, we've started getting failures on tempest tests that aren't relevant to Congress. | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221518/ | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | There the tempest-gate tests failed b/c of a glancev1 test. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | Perhaps it's time we figure out how to build a tempest plugin. | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | I would assume we have better control over the tests that get run. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | We had someone volunteer to teach us at the last IRC. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | Would anyone want to sign up for that? | 00:17 |
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| zhenzanz | I'd like to sign up for it, thanks | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | zhenzanz: Great! | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | If you check last week's logs you can find the IRC handle of the person who volunteered to help. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Any other questions/comments? | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | #topic Tokyo summit | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | alexsyip: want to give us an update on the Hands On Lab? | 00:21 |
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| alexsyip | I created a virtualbox image with devstack on it. | 00:22 |
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| alexsyip | It’s setup with bridge networking, and horizon works through the VM’s ip address. | 00:22 |
| alexsyip | We can do a similar handson to vancouver. | 00:22 |
| alexsyip | We can add something for triggers. | 00:22 |
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| alexsyip | Does anyone know how to setup the environment inside of devstack for this handson? | 00:23 |
| alexsyip | There were a couple VMs and a couple networks. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | We tried to do a brain dump and put it at the end of the lab. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lXmMkUhiSZYK45POd5ungPjVR--Fs_wJHeQ6bXWwP44/pub | 00:24 |
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| alexsyip | Can I create those through horizon ? | 00:25 |
| masahito_ | alexsyip: I think yes | 00:26 |
| alexsyip | ok I’ll try that. | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | alexsyip: I don't know why not. | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | alexsyip: anything you need from us? | 00:26 |
| alexsyip | not right now. | 00:27 |
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| thinrichs | That was all I had for the summit. Anyone have anything else? | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Working use cases | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | I've been getting emails from someone who is trying to learn about Congress. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | They're asking for 5-6 *working* use cases (e.g. with rules, datasources, and nova/neutron/etc. set up). | 00:30 |
| qwebirc50555 | I enabled a quota policy across domain level on top of nova | 00:30 |
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| qwebirc50555 | will create a review | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | qwebirc50555: are you Himanshu? | 00:31 |
| qwebirc50555 | this is Su Zhang from Symantec | 00:31 |
| qwebirc50555 | We talked during the mid cycle meeting | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | qwebirc50555: Hi Su. | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | I remember you. Just didn't recognize your handle. | 00:32 |
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| qwebirc50555 | I will learn how to change name here. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | qwebirc50555: perhaps we can use your policy as a use case for Himanshu. | 00:32 |
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| qwebirc50555 | sounds great | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | What I'm trying to figure out is if there's a way to have a handful of usecases that are always up and ready for people to try out. | 00:33 |
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| thinrichs | Could we maybe put together a VM that's all set up and post it somewhere? | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | Like we're doing for the HOL perhaps. | 00:34 |
| qwebirc50555 | sounds good | 00:34 |
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| qwebirc50555 | I already have one for my use case | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Then we wouldn't need to worry about the instructions getting out of sync with the current tip of master. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | People could explore a few use cases without using the bleeding edge congress. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Thoughts? | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | We could even do a video showing the different use cases. | 00:35 |
| qwebirc50555 | good idea | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | Would someone want to volunteer to work on that? | 00:36 |
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| thinrichs | #action zhenzang will spearhead tempest plugin development | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | (Forgot to record that earlier.) | 00:38 |
| qwebirc50555 | by the way, we are planing to migrate the ceilometer policy into our environment. However, we do not have ceilometer api enabled but stores all of the data into a database. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | How about this? qwebirc50555: would you want to post your VM somewhere with the working use case? | 00:38 |
| shivharis | can this task be achievable by a newbie? I can give it shot | 00:38 |
| qwebirc50555 | sure. I can do that | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs | shivharis: If you're familiar with devstack and the other services, it might be doable. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | But maybe it'd be good to do some simpler tasks first. | 00:40 |
| shivharis | i am very familar with neutron - wrote my first plugin 3 years ago | 00:40 |
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| shivharis | so devstack is not an issue | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: ok, let's give it a try then. | 00:40 |
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| shivharis | ok, i'll sign up then | 00:41 |
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| shivharis | will need help off and on | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: maybe we can start with qwebirc50555's VM or alexsyip's VM, which already have 1 use case ready. | 00:41 |
| shivharis | ok | 00:41 |
| alexsyip | I have a blank devstack VM | 00:41 |
| shivharis | virtualbox based? | 00:41 |
| alexsyip | Yeah, I need to figure out how to make an image. | 00:42 |
| qwebirc50555 | Mine VM is vmware fusion based | 00:42 |
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| qwebirc50555 | but my code is easy to install | 00:42 |
| alexsyip | I think virtualbox is probaly better | 00:42 |
| alexsyip | It’s free | 00:42 |
| qwebirc50555 | if you already have a box then i can install it easily | 00:42 |
| alexsyip | not everyone has fusion. | 00:42 |
| shivharis | dont worry that will is not be a problem - i can do images etc. I would prefer virtualbox since it is free and more folks can use it | 00:42 |
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| shivharis | i like fusion - but virtualbox is widespread | 00:43 |
| qwebirc50555 | me too | 00:43 |
| qwebirc50555 | fusion is more stable | 00:43 |
| zhenzanz | maybe you can just export as ovf and then import it into virtualbox | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | Just throwing this out there—any utility in doing this with containers instead of vms? | 00:43 |
| shivharis | wow.. that is a good idea | 00:43 |
| qwebirc50555 | I can put my code somewhere with an install doc | 00:44 |
| qwebirc50555 | cool | 00:44 |
| shivharis | i think lets get something done - then think big? | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: agreed. | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | #action shivharis will spearhead the construction of a VM/container to illustrate several use cases | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: Thanks for stepping up! | 00:45 |
| shivharis | np. would love to participate | 00:45 |
| zhenzanz | for containerize, we can contribute it into kolla | 00:45 |
| qwebirc71560 | thanks | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: hit us up on the mailing list for help getting started | 00:46 |
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| shivharis | thinrichs: will do | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | That's the last of my agenda items. | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | Or Status updates | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | If no one has anything to discuss, we'll end early. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | shivharis: Your handle looks familiar but I can't place it. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Have we met in person before? | 00:49 |
| shivharis | I am very active in ML2 | 00:50 |
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| shivharis | I am the bug czar there | 00:50 |
| shivharis | ML2/neutron | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs | Got it. | 00:51 |
| shivharis | i attended one congress meeting in Vancouver | 00:51 |
| shivharis | maybe there.. | 00:51 |
| shivharis | mostly busy in neutron | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | What's brought you over to Congress? | 00:51 |
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| shivharis | i like the idea - congress is very useful | 00:52 |
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| thinrichs | Great! Sometimes people come with specific use cases in mind. Just wondered if there was something like that for you. | 00:52 |
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| shivharis | no nothing in particular - but it has great potential | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | Anyone have anything else to discuss? | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | I'll send out an email when we lift feature freeze—hopefully tomorrow. | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | Even after that my priority will still be finding/fixing bugs in liberty. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | I'll try to give new features a look, if the reviews aren't too time-consuming. | 00:56 |
| RuiChen | +1 for great potential :-) | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Let's end a few minutes early tonight. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 00:56 |
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| RuiChen | #action RuiChen fix bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1492306 | 00:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1492306 in congress "Ceilometer datasource errors on poll" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Rui Chen (kiwik-chenrui) | 00:56 |
| shivharis | thanks, bye all | 00:57 |
| masahito_ | bye | 00:57 |
| RuiChen | bye | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 00:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 00:57:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-09-10-00.00.html | 00:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-09-10-00.00.txt | 00:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2015/congressteammeeting.2015-09-10-00.00.log.html | 00:57 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 15:00:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
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| cdent | purple | 15:00 |
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| cdent | dragons | 15:01 |
| eglynn | o/ | 15:01 |
| jasonamyers | o/ | 15:01 |
| pradk | o/ | 15:01 |
| liusheng_ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sileht | o/ | 15:01 |
| pradk | cdent, is that the theme for this mtg | 15:01 |
| gordc | theme for life | 15:02 |
| nadya | o/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | will give it a few more seconds. | 15:02 |
| pradk | ah kk | 15:02 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | #topic liberty update | 15:03 |
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| gordc | so we're all set... | 15:03 |
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| gordc | we have both FFE items in now so code should be finalised from feature pov | 15:03 |
| cdent | bugs bugs bugs | 15:03 |
| gordc | we also just released Aodh 1.0.0 | 15:03 |
| gordc | so yeah. as cdent says, find the bugs | 15:04 |
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| gordc | i don't really have a target for rc1 release date | 15:04 |
| gordc | we'll see how many bugs we find originally and play it by ear. | 15:05 |
| gordc | that's all i have on that topic | 15:05 |
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| gordc | anyone else? | 15:05 |
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| gordc | short meeting? yeah? cool. | 15:06 |
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| gordc | i'm going to skip over roadmap items but cdent has something related to it later | 15:06 |
| gordc | recurring: ceilometerclient release? | 15:06 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: ceilometerclient release? | 15:06 |
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| gordc | we just released our first liberty candidate for ceilometerclient | 15:07 |
| gordc | cdent: i think you opened a bug which means we'll probably need another relsae? | 15:07 |
| cdent | it will want a new one after limit fixes | 15:07 |
| cdent | jinx | 15:07 |
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| gordc | awesome | 15:07 |
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| gordc | anyone else have ceilometerclient issues within past 12 hrs? | 15:08 |
| gordc | i assume no. let's go. | 15:08 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: Gnocchi status | 15:08 |
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| gordc | cdent: jd__: sileht: anything? | 15:09 |
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| sileht | I'm waiting for infra guys to import the gnocchiclient into the openstack namespace | 15:09 |
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| sileht | I'm waiting from infra guys to get the integrated job merged | 15:10 |
| gordc | sileht: ah ok. yeah, i believe i saw that patch. i'll try to ping someone later today. | 15:10 |
| gordc | or get someone with the infra connections to take a look | 15:10 |
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| sileht | I'm regulary ping them | 15:11 |
| jd__ | we're pushing on Grafana too to improve our support | 15:11 |
| jd__ | (devstack patch landed) | 15:11 |
| jd__ | I've a talk about Gnocchi scheduled in 2 weeks at the next OpenStack Paris meetup | 15:12 |
| gordc | sileht: are they replying? | 15:12 |
| gordc | or is blocked because it's end of cycle? | 15:12 |
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| sileht | yes, but I got a couple of rebase issue, and lost my +2 | 15:12 |
| gordc | :( | 15:12 |
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| gordc | sileht: i think you need someone with connections... or just go screaming into openstack-infra and see what happens. | 15:13 |
| sileht | screaming is what I do usually :p | 15:14 |
| gordc | sileht: :) | 15:14 |
| gordc | jd__: let us know how meetup goes. | 15:14 |
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| jd__ | sure. I'll count the tomatoes. | 15:14 |
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| gordc | jd__: perfect | 15:15 |
| gordc | ok. let's move on. cdent i'm going to slightly hijack your topic. | 15:15 |
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| gordc | #topic Tokyo sessions and planning (cdent) | 15:15 |
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| cdent | just one question, do we need an etherpad | 15:15 |
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| gordc | cdent: sure. you can create one. i've created a google doc for people to submit formal proposals | 15:16 |
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| gordc | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ea_P2k1kNy_SILEnC-5Zl61IFhqEOrlZ5L8VY4-xNB0/edit?usp=sharing | 15:16 |
| gordc | similar as before. | 15:16 |
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| gordc | cdent: but i think to brainstorm, etherpad would be better. | 15:17 |
| nadya | gordc: were your sessions be approved? | 15:17 |
| gordc | just for reference, we received 2 Fishbowl, 7 Working room, and 1 half day session | 15:17 |
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| gordc | nadya: speaker session? no. i believe none of the dev talks were chosen. | 15:18 |
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| nadya | gordc: yep, indeed | 15:18 |
| gordc | nadya: right now we're just talking about Telemetry design sessions | 15:18 |
| nadya | gordc: yep, I understand; just asking | 15:18 |
| gordc | luckily, we got roughly same as Vancouver (1 Working room less) | 15:19 |
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| gordc | so yeah, if you have an idea, feel free to use ehterpad to brainstorm and then propose a topic to google doc... and we can vote... | 15:19 |
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| ildikov | gordc: did you send a mail about the google docs? | 15:19 |
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| gordc | ildikov: not yet. | 15:20 |
| gordc | #action send link to telemtry design session proposals | 15:20 |
| ildikov | gordc: thanks :) | 15:20 |
| gordc | the process ok with everyone? | 15:20 |
| pradk | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-ceilometer-design-summit | 15:20 |
| gordc | anyone want to change it from how we've done it previously? | 15:20 |
| ildikov | I'm ok with how we've done it | 15:21 |
| cdent | seems okay | 15:21 |
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| gordc | cool cool | 15:22 |
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| gordc | regarding final date for design session proposals. shall we aim for Oct5th? vote ends Oct 8th? | 15:22 |
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| pradk | we can use the above ^^ etherpad for discussions if necessary | 15:23 |
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| gordc | that would give roughly 2.5 weeks for chosen topics to be formalised/discussed further | 15:23 |
| gordc | pradk: awesome | 15:23 |
| ildikov | gordc: it's more than 3 weeks from now, sounds fine with me | 15:23 |
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| ildikov | gordc: it should be enough to collect the proposals | 15:24 |
| gordc | ildikov: we can set it tentatively. i don't know how busy people will be with testing. | 15:24 |
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| gordc | ildikov: yeah, that's what i'm thinking/hoping. | 15:24 |
| ildikov | gordc: I guess we split between modules based on the proposals, right? | 15:24 |
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| gordc | ildikov: true. so we have a noticeable divide for 'ceilometer', gnocchi, and aodh... i hadn't considered how many spots to reserve | 15:25 |
| ildikov | IMHO we can do that on demand | 15:25 |
| gordc | yeah my thoughts exactly. | 15:25 |
| ildikov | gordc: would we need a joint component session? | 15:25 |
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| ildikov | I mean to ensure the interaction between them, how to handle old/new APIs etc is covered | 15:26 |
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| ildikov | not 100% sure it's needed, prolly it can be part of the regular planning and voting | 15:26 |
| gordc | ildikov: sure. that can be a possible topic (if you choose to propose it) | 15:26 |
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| gordc | i think i'm pretty open to pretty much any 'telemetry/monitoring/metering/alarming' related topic to be proposed regardless which project it falls under | 15:27 |
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| cdent | unicorns | 15:27 |
| gordc | cdent: alarming? | 15:28 |
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| gordc | any other items we need to address? | 15:29 |
| ildikov | gordc: ok, cool | 15:29 |
| ildikov | gordc: tnx | 15:29 |
| gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:29 |
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| nadya | party with Monasca? | 15:29 |
| gordc | sweet. short meeting. | 15:29 |
| ildikov | one question, will we have a mentor for OPW internship? | 15:29 |
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| gordc | nadya: i've mentioned to Roland already that he is welcome to propose Monasca topics as well during our session. | 15:30 |
| nadya | gordc: ok | 15:30 |
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| gordc | nadya: are you volunteering to plan a party? | 15:30 |
| gordc | nadya: i'll support that | 15:30 |
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| gordc | ildikov: how does that work normally? i haven't really looked/followed the OPW internship stuff. | 15:31 |
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| nadya | gordc: come to my hometown :) I'm still not able to go to summits :( | 15:31 |
| ildikov | gordc: don't know either | 15:31 |
| gordc | nadya: doesn't mean you can't plan still. ;) | 15:31 |
| nadya | lol | 15:31 |
| ildikov | gordc: I got the question today, I asked back for details, no response yet | 15:32 |
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| gordc | ildikov: DinaBelova i believe was mentor last time during Juno | 15:32 |
| gordc | or kilo | 15:32 |
| ildikov | eglynn: weren't you mentor once also? | 15:32 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: do you remember how OPW internship works? | 15:33 |
| eglynn | ildikov: for the OPW? | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: yes indeed ... I mentored amalagon for Juno | 15:33 |
| ildikov | eglynn: yeap | 15:33 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: I remember most of the details ... any specific questions on it? | 15:34 |
| ildikov | I wonder what it looks like timing wise | 15:34 |
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| eglynn | it's a 13 week program | 15:36 |
| ildikov | and well, I could ask several questions, but if you might have a link to a description and then we can come back with stupid questions :) | 15:36 |
| eglynn | the end point basically lines up approx with the last milestone in the cycle | 15:36 |
| eglynn | so it would start 13 weeks before mitataka-3 | 15:36 |
| eglynn | so the process is basically add project ideas to the OPW/outreachy wiki and await potential interns to express interest | 15:36 |
| eglynn | the interns are then ranked by the mentor group on a scale of 1-5 | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | the spots are limited as each one needs to be sponsored | 15:37 |
| eglynn | (to cover the intern stipend and travel expenses) | 15:37 |
| eglynn | a sponsorship IIRC costs circa US$6k | 15:38 |
| ildikov | do you know what the criterias are/what the ranking is based on? | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | interest level, coding ability (not necessarily python), cloud knowledge, availability for fulltime work | 15:38 |
| eglynn | the summer cycle is generally better for the latter | 15:39 |
| gordc | ildikov: you thinking of mentoring or just inquiring? | 15:39 |
| ildikov | I guess it's better to find a mentor and then propose some topics to that wiki | 15:39 |
| eglynn | (since students in the US and Europe are off in the summer) | 15:39 |
| ildikov | gordc: I got a mail today from a girl, who's interested, but I do not really have the bandwidth to be a mentor, but I would like to help and support her, this is why I thought to bring up a topic as we had mentors earlier too | 15:40 |
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| eglynn | at the diveristy panel in the OpenStack day in Seattle recently someone mentioned though that most of the applications are now from India & China | 15:40 |
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| ildikov | gordc: and also if we have tasks that need to be done anyway then if we have an intern working on it seems like double benefit | 15:40 |
| eglynn | ... not sure how the academic year works there | 15:40 |
| ildikov | gordc: so more inquiring atm :) | 15:41 |
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| gordc | eglynn: good to know... maybe some of our east-asian cores can help. | 15:41 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: do they need former contribution to he project? | 15:41 |
| gordc | ildikov: i hadn't thought about it to be honest but good to bring it up | 15:42 |
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| ildikov | gordc: we can come back to this later, I just wanted to raise the question as heads up | 15:43 |
| gordc | oh before i forget, we're going to give midcycle voting one last try, we'll send a mailing list for dates in Nov/Dec and January... if we don't get a response, we'll just do virtual midcycle agian | 15:43 |
| gordc | ildikov: sounds good | 15:43 |
| eglynn | ildikov: yep, *some* openstack contribution helps ... but it can just be a trivial patch | 15:44 |
| ildikov | gordc: don't get a response == not enough attendees? | 15:44 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: ok, cool, good to know | 15:44 |
| gordc | ildikov: well right now we don't have responses so the assumption is that there is very few attendees | 15:45 |
| ildikov | gordc: ok | 15:45 |
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| gordc | jasonamyers (cisco) has offered to host so it'd be nice to stop dragging process so he has firm yes/no | 15:46 |
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| jasonamyers | +1 | 15:47 |
| gordc | any other discussion items? | 15:47 |
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| gordc | thanks very much folks. happy hacking | 15:48 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 15:48:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-09-10-15.00.html | 15:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-09-10-15.00.txt | 15:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-09-10-15.00.log.html | 15:49 |
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| vishwanathj | hello | 16:00 |
| bobh | o/ | 16:00 |
| tbh | hi | 16:00 |
| stormy_ | hello | 16:00 |
| sripriya | o/ | 16:00 |
| sridhar_ram | hello all | 16:00 |
| sridhar_ram | we will start in a min | 16:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: are you there ? | 16:02 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets starts | 16:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 16:02:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 16:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | #chair bobh sripriya | 16:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bobh sridhar_ram sripriya | 16:03 |
| sridhar_ram | Agenda - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Sep_10.2C_2015 | 16:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
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| sridhar_ram | Tacker Liberty Deadline is Sept 25th - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tacker/Releases | 16:04 |
| sridhar_ram | just two weeks away | 16:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | New Tacker development process is now merged and official - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219012/ | 16:05 |
| sridhar_ram | please follow the process in your contribution efforts, for any clarifications please reachout to the core team | 16:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | Experimental features proposal for Tacker is announced in the ML - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074015.html | 16:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | comments / suggestion are welcome ... | 16:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | as part of this I'll open mitaka dir in tacker-specs repo to start working in post-Liberty specs (like sfc, nvfo, ...) | 16:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | any other general heads up / thoughts ? | 16:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Liberty Release Status | 16:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | if you've noticed we have a lose agenda today :) | 16:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets go around the table to see where we are w.r.t Liberty release - the deadline is approaching fast | 16:10 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: few words about MANO API ? | 16:10 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: update on API, it is ready for review, it had some issues with jenkins not picking it up, i'm resolving that and it should be good to go | 16:11 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: plugin unit tests are added, so we have something to quick start for py27 | 16:12 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: however tox would pick up all test cases that are under unit and error out crazily as none of them are functional | 16:12 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: this is awesome, we finally have py27 unit-tests for tacker | 16:12 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: we need to take up cleaning task of unit tests dir. and retail only whatever is relevant | 16:13 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: we can remove / move old test out of the way so that tox doesn't pick up | 16:13 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: yes, i plan to do that as a seperate activity | 16:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | sridhar_ram: okay, let me know if you need help. I've few other things to cleanup as part of my Part-2 of my original cleanup patchsets | 16:14 |
| sripriya | just tested the tox against the new dir. 'vm' I introduced and it worked fine | 16:15 |
| sripriya | since my unit tests does not have any dependencies | 16:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: for now, can't you set the OS_TEST_PATH to your specific dir ? | 16:15 |
| sripriya | i can do | 16:15 |
| sripriya | but that is not what i want to push upstream | 16:16 |
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| sripriya | it is basically updating the .testr.conf file, if you want me to push that change to point it to the dir., i will include that change | 16:16 |
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| sridhar_ram | hmm... that might trip what Santosh is introducing for scenario tests ? | 16:17 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: no | 16:17 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: functionla tests has its path setup in tox.ini itself | 16:18 |
| sripriya | *functional | 16:18 |
| sridhar_ram | okay .. so we can keep -e py27 and -e functional points to separate paths. | 16:18 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: yes | 16:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | btw - we also need the doc.openstack.org enabled for Tacker and have it point to MANO API.. | 16:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | please plan that for Liberty Release | 16:19 |
| sripriya | that will mean working with the docs team right? | 16:19 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i dont know if they allow for stackforge projects on docs.openstack.org | 16:20 |
| sridhar_ram | no, I can help to get the project-config to do doc-pubs... from your part you need to write up the doc | 16:20 |
| sridhar_ram | ah.. that's a good point.. | 16:20 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: they allow only governance projects | 16:21 |
| sridhar_ram | either case we will fold into openstack/ soon .. I'll follow up w/ infra team on that | 16:21 |
| sripriya | sridhar_Ram: alright, meanwhile i will add the doc-ref in tacker dir. | 16:21 |
| sridhar_ram | cool.. | 16:21 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: anything else on MANO API ? | 16:22 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: that is it, i request everyone to do some testing of patchsets and provide any feedback including unit tests | 16:23 |
| sridhar_ram | sounds good.. I'll give it a spin for sure | 16:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: any update on the health-monitoring spec and its progress ? | 16:24 |
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| lsp42 | sridhar_ram, bobh: Is this to take us beyond just ping? | 16:24 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: Looking for feedback on the latest spec - a couple of outstanding questions | 16:24 |
| lsp42 | sridhar_ram: Where is that spec? | 16:25 |
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| bobh | lsp42: Yes - it is going to be modular so you can supply your own monitor | 16:25 |
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| lsp42 | bobh: Sorry, me being impatient! I would like to read this spec | 16:25 |
| bobh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202126/ | 16:25 |
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| bobh | At this point I think it will mostly be copied from the mgmt_driver design with the appropriate changes for monitoring | 16:26 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: towards lsp42's point - are you planning to keep http-ping in scope for this effort ? | 16:26 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: Yes - that is going to be the reference implementation | 16:26 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: The basic design is a copy of the existing mgmt_driver | 16:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: sure, but are you planning to introduce http-alive as one of the pre-supplied mon-driver ? | 16:28 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: I'm hoping to - ping and http-ping should both be pretty simple to implement | 16:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: that's cool.. | 16:28 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: The challenge is getting the whole driver mechanism plumbed into the server | 16:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | so at the end of this effort - we will have icmp-ping, http-ping and an ability to introduce a custom driver | 16:29 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: which is why I'm going to copy mgmt_driver as much as possible | 16:29 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: totally agree, this will be a non-trivial effort | 16:29 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: sure, that would be good start.. | 16:29 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: So if anyone has feedback on the spec please let me know ASAP - coding has started :-) | 16:30 |
| sridhar_ram | sure, here is one :) | 16:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | we also need to bring boot-wait that is currently in tacker.conf into something being VNF / VDU specific | 16:30 |
| s3wong | sorry, way late --- still need time to get used to the new commute | 16:30 |
| sridhar_ram | will leave these thoughts in the review.. | 16:30 |
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| bobh | that may apply to both mgmt and monitor | 16:31 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: morning, we are just going around the table to get liberty status ... | 16:31 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh: agree | 16:31 |
| sripriya | bobh: regarding driver mechanism plumbing in server i can help you there, invested some time in that | 16:32 |
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| bobh | sripriya: Thanks! | 16:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: btw, on the bigger context, there is renewed interest in Tacker's health-monitoring | 16:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | few potential tacker user / operators reached out .. and their immediate needs are all around health-mon | 16:33 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: This should provide a generic framework for monitoring and health and scaling can take advantage of that | 16:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh: sounds good | 16:34 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on health-mon ? | 16:34 |
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| bobh | sridhar_ram: Ideally I would like to allow the VNF to provide it's own monitoring plugin without needing to install on the server. Future... | 16:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | well... currently we are hampered by the need to have an entry-point in setup.cfg for every "driver" | 16:35 |
| lsp42 | maybe we need to add the ability to upload a monitoring driver via the API like we do with VDUs? Let it auto-configure | 16:36 |
| sridhar_ram | we can loosen this in the next iteration.. it seems you already have quite a bit in your plate for next few weeks | 16:36 |
| bobh | sridhar_ram: Definitely | 16:36 |
| sridhar_ram | lsp42: interesting - this exact suggestion came in our recent mid-cycle discussion (Xin who suggested this ? )... | 16:37 |
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| sridhar_ram | lsp42: introducing "code" during runtime is a privileged action and it has many security implication as well... | 16:38 |
| lsp42 | ok | 16:38 |
| lsp42 | so maybe we need abstract drivers which then get fed directives | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | typically - any code is introduced by a conscious action of the deployer | 16:39 |
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| bobh | lsp42: A well-defined monitoring interface would help a lot | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | lsp42: exactly, that is what we are shooting for.. | 16:39 |
| bobh | between the VNFM and VNF | 16:39 |
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| lsp42 | sure | 16:40 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on health-mon ? | 16:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | I don't see prashant online .. | 16:41 |
| sridhar_ram | for an update on auto-scaling .. | 16:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | I can give a quick update on SFC .. though it is not a liberty target.. | 16:43 |
| sridhar_ram | As described in the experimental feature .. we would like to bring in Tim's SFC efforts into Tacker | 16:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | some of us attended last couple of opnfv-sfc meeting to answer any Tacker related question.. | 16:44 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: may be you want to invite trozet in the next tacker meeting? | 16:44 |
| sridhar_ram | here is a slide deck that shows our thoughts on how we plan to introduce SFC #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18AGaiysVgHOd_fIHVpObMO7zUkMjJGOQ98CUwkxU1xo/edit#slide=id.p4 | 16:45 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: sure, I plan to .. Tim is busy with some OPNFV deliverables this week and he is planning to get back to SFC next week. | 16:45 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: cool | 16:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | any comments on the interested in Tacker + SFC slide above is welcome! | 16:47 |
| * sridhar_ram bad edit, argh | 16:47 | |
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| sridhar_ram | any questions on SFC ? | 16:48 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I missed the OPNFV SFC meeting yesterday morning --- was there any Tacker related discussion there? | 16:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yes, I prepared the above slide deck for that meeting, but didn't get time to present it... | 16:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | but Tacker was discussed quite a bit to full fill their need VNFM needs ... | 16:51 |
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| lsp42 | was there any mention of Tacker being the VNFO once SFC is in place? | 16:52 |
| sridhar_ram | I suggested them to use Tacker as the api-server / wsgi server (along the lines Tim.R explored) for SFC API instead of inventing something adhoc | 16:52 |
| sridhar_ram | lsp42: absolutely, that's where we are heading ... | 16:52 |
| sridhar_ram | if you read the ML email on experimental features - #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074015.html | 16:52 |
| lsp42 | sorry - still trying to play catchup as well as reading code! | 16:52 |
| sridhar_ram | ... we are building all the puzzle pieces towards an NFVO ! | 16:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | lsp42: no problem | 16:53 |
| lsp42 | sridhar_ram: Thanks. What was their response to using Tacker as the api-server for SFC? | 16:54 |
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| sridhar_ram | They are quite supportive but they also need something really quick.. their B-release testing is not too far | 16:54 |
| sridhar_ram | that's why we need to fast-track Tacker SFC efforts! | 16:54 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: yes, I attended last week's meeting --- and it seems like fitting us into their B-release timeframe is going to be difficult | 16:55 |
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| s3wong | despite trozet's great effort on the coding front | 16:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: I think are are other bigger road-blocks in openstack - ODL-SFC interaction - on how nova / neutron created the vnics in the ovs bridge and around vxlan tunnel terminations... | 16:57 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: yes, there was some discussion on that also last week | 16:58 |
| sridhar_ram | what I mean is we will have a window to get this done while other things (around OVS-NSH support, vnice / bridge inters) are still falling in place | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | quick time checkk - 2min mark! | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | we need to wrap up soon... | 16:59 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: OVS support of NSH would be masked from us anyway, it is more ODL's problem | 16:59 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: but it is required for meaningful B-release | 16:59 |
| lsp42 | this could be a huge win | 16:59 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: technically it is required for ODL Lithium for SFC, but the SFC team decided to maintain their own fork... | 17:00 |
| lsp42 | hrmm | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | lsp42: It sure will, but we need to keep an open mind on sfc and execute well to enable them (opnfc-sfc) to succeed :) | 17:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | times up folks... | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | talk to all next week | 17:00 |
| s3wong | bye | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks for attending! | 17:00 |
| lsp42 | bye | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 17:00:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| sripriya | bye | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-09-10-16.02.html | 17:01 |
| s3wong | (on to the other meeting) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-09-10-16.02.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-09-10-16.02.log.html | 17:01 |
| bobh | bye | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 17:01:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | hi, who's here today? | 17:01 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish: o/ | 17:01 |
| ylobankov | hi guys! | 17:01 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:01 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_September_10th_2015_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | let's get started | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have an open specs review they'd like to discuss? | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | although there probably aren't any at this point in the cycle | 17:03 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: I still have to update the spec for the ci-watch (that's an infra one actually) | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: sure, although I imagine we'll just push forward on it at the sprint next week spec or not :) | 17:04 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I'll definitely do it before the sprint next week | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: the other one is the resources.yaml spec | 17:04 |
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| mtreinish | that one would be good to get going again | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | #topic Tempest | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | so on the agenda I put that we pushed the tempest 6 tag to mark the start of the plugin interface | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://github.com/openstack/tempest/releases/tag/6 | 17:07 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: nice | 17:07 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | since manila started using it late last week for their tempest tests we needed to consider it a stable interface | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | other than that I didn't really have anything else for this topic | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | does anyone else have something to discuss about tempest this week? | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | yes | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | I thought I'm mention the work on identity v3 | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | so I'm trying to make things working in tempest when keystone uses the v3 policy file https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/policy.v3cloudsample.json | 17:09 |
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| mtreinish | oh, I bet a bunch of things don't work :) | 17:10 |
| andreaf | it turns out we always use project scoped domains | 17:10 |
| andreaf | and we don't assign admin role on the domain to our admin accounts | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: for isolated_creds right? accounts.yaml could work | 17:11 |
| mtreinish | well not the token scoping side I guess, if we don't scope the tokens properly it probably wouldn't work | 17:11 |
| andreaf | fixing this requires changes to tempest-lib, tempest and devstack, probably about 5 or 6 patches | 17:13 |
| andreaf | accounts.yaml could work yes, but the account creation tools is only doing v2 | 17:13 |
| andreaf | right, so I need to fix the identity client to request token scoped tokens when relevant | 17:13 |
| andreaf | and tenant isolation and devstack to assign the role on the domain to admin accounts | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, do you have a common gerrit topic or an etherpad tracking all of this somewhere? | 17:14 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202705 (tempest-lib change) | 17:16 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222038/1 (devstack change) | 17:16 |
| andreaf | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1494291 lp bug (no fix yet) | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494291 in tempest "Tenant isolation admin accounts only get a role on the project" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:16 |
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| andreaf | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1494293 lp bug (no fix yet) | 17:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1494293 in tempest "Account creation tool in tempest only handles identity v2" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:16 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221020/ (wip tempest fix) | 17:17 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: sorry I temporarily lost network connection | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok cool, lets throw that up on an etherpad or something after the meeting to make it a bit easier to track moving forward | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | heh, no worries | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else on tempest this week? | 17:17 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: good idea, will do | 17:17 |
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| lbragstad | i have a tempest question, but it can wait for open discussion | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | lbragstad: now's a good a time as any tbh | 17:18 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish: cool, we (as in the keystone team) just wanted to see if we could get a few extra eyes on - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220272/ | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220272/ | 17:19 |
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| lbragstad | as we are working towards getting fernet working in devstack - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195780/ | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | oh, cool I already +2d that one | 17:20 |
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| lbragstad | if anyone has any questions, don't hesitate to come find us | 17:20 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish: thanks for the quick reviews on that last thursday btw.. | 17:20 |
| lbragstad | but that is all i had, | 17:20 |
| lbragstad | thanks folks! | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | ok cool, then if there isn't anything else, let's move on | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: so is there anything new and exciting in the world of devstack? | 17:22 |
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| dtroyer | I'm here but don't really have anything, still getting caught up on stuff | 17:22 |
| dtroyer | Maybe I should ask if there was any fun I missed? ;) | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: heh, there probably was, but I'm not sure I could remember :) | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have anything else to discuss about devstack this week? | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then let's move on | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | ok does anyone have anything to discuss about grenade this week? | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | heh, ok I guess not | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | then let's move on | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 17:28 |
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| mtreinish | well I've got a couple this week if no one else does :) | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/216887 | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/211601 | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | those 2 are to get the test-accounts experimental/periodic job working and deprecate the creds config options | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/216873 | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | and that's to migrate the idempotent_id stuff from tempest into tempest-lib | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | hogepodge: ^^^ you'll probably want to take a look at that last one | 17:30 |
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| hogepodge | ok | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | are there any other reviews today? | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then lets move on | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | #topic Code Sprint Reminder | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/CodeSprintLibertyFortCollins | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | so just a reminder that the code sprint is going on next week | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | a bunch of will be in ft collins for it | 17:33 |
| mtreinish | look forward to seeing people there | 17:33 |
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| mtreinish | that's all I had for this topic, does anyone have something else on it? | 17:34 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: just a link to the etherpad you requested earlier #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone_v3_policy_in_dsvm_tests | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: cool thanks. was that something you wanted to put on the sprint topics? | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | anyway let's open the floor | 17:35 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 17:36 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: I though about it but there's already a long list of topics | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have a topic they'd like to discuss that wasn't on the agenda? | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok sure | 17:36 |
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| mtreinish | oh, I guess I should mention that summit is approaching | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | so people should probably start thinking about session topics | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | I'll probably make a brainstorming etherpad soon to track that | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | ok, well if there isn't anything else I guess we'll end here today | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:39 |
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| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 17:39:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-09-10-17.01.html | 17:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-09-10-17.01.txt | 17:39 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-09-10-17.01.log.html | 17:39 |
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| daneyon_ | #startmeeting container-networking | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 18:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is daneyon_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'container_networking' | 18:01 |
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| daneyon_ | Agenda | 18:01 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Containers#Agenda | 18:01 |
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| daneyon_ | The agenda has been slightly modified from our last 2 meetings. | 18:01 |
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| daneyon_ | #topic roll call | 18:01 |
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| hongbin | o/ | 18:01 |
| Tango | Ton Ngo | 18:01 |
| s3wong | Stephen Wong | 18:02 |
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| daneyon_ | Thank you hongbin Tango s3wong for attending the meeting. | 18:02 |
| thomasem | o/ | 18:02 |
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| daneyon_ | Looks like we have a light crowd and today's meeting should go quick. | 18:03 |
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| daneyon_ | thomasem thanks for joining. | 18:03 |
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| daneyon_ | #topic Discuss Kuryr Design Spec | 18:03 |
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| adrian_otto | o/ | 18:03 |
| daneyon_ | instead of diving into the spec, i want to have a quick discussion on the spec. | 18:03 |
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| daneyon_ | Hey adrian_otto, thanks for joining. | 18:04 |
| * adrian_otto nods | 18:04 | |
| daneyon_ | In general, i think the Kuryr spec is getting close. | 18:04 |
| daneyon_ | I'm getting ready to give it a +1 | 18:04 |
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| daneyon_ | I think their is still grey area on what the project is trying to solve | 18:05 |
| daneyon_ | Their appears to be a focus on Docker using libnetwork, but the spec contains several references to areas that fall outside of libnetwork's responsibilities. | 18:06 |
| adrian_otto | did you call each out using in-line comments? | 18:06 |
| daneyon_ | The spec is not meant to be perfect, but I think it has helped to shed light on the direction of Kuryr and the spec can be fine tuned in the future | 18:06 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto I did | 18:06 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto I think our group has done a good job of providing feedback on the spec | 18:07 |
| adrian_otto | good | 18:07 |
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| daneyon_ | I think we've had at least 4-5 people provide comments and we have helped shape the spec throughout the 5+ patch sets | 18:07 |
| daneyon_ | Does anyone have any questions or feedback on the spec? | 18:08 |
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| daneyon_ | I am awaiting for my feedback to get addressed in the latest patch set | 18:08 |
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| adrian_otto | my advice when you are about to vote on something like this is not if the spec is perfect, because it's not an implementation, but ask yourself are we better off with this, or without this? Is there anything in here I simply can't live with? | 18:08 |
| daneyon_ | If and when it does, I am planning on providing a +1 vote. | 18:09 |
| Tango | I think unless something else pops up, the next patch should be good to go | 18:09 |
| adrian_otto | and if it's pretty good, then let's merge it, and focus more energy on the implementation | 18:09 |
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| daneyon_ | I would like everyone to perform a review. Please indicate what you need for a +1 if you feel like something is missing | 18:09 |
| adrian_otto | I do recognize this is not one of Magnum's repositories | 18:10 |
| daneyon_ | otherwise, please provide your +1 vote | 18:10 |
| adrian_otto | yes, thanks daneyon_ | 18:10 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto agreed, I would just like to show our support for the spec. Several team members spent a good amount of time performing reviews, so let's bring this one to the finish line | 18:11 |
| daneyon_ | and thanks again for taking the time to review the spec | 18:11 |
| daneyon_ | I know we all have a lot on our plate | 18:11 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Discuss Kuryr Integration Brainstorming EtherPad | 18:11 |
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| daneyon_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-kuryr | 18:12 |
| daneyon_ | I have a meeting schedule with gsagie on Monday to clean-up the ep and create actionable steps to move the integration forward. | 18:12 |
| daneyon_ | I plan to keep the meeting between gsagie and I to get this job done. | 18:13 |
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| daneyon_ | Please speak up if you have issues with this approach. | 18:13 |
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| daneyon_ | The output will be an organized ep, filed bp's, etc.. | 18:13 |
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| daneyon_ | any questions or feedback on this topic? | 18:13 |
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| daneyon_ | ok, then let's move on. | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Discuss Magnum Container Networking Model Patches | 18:14 |
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| daneyon_ | I’ve been plugging away at the Magnum network spec patches: | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214762/ | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214909/ | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215260/ | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217888/ | 18:14 |
| daneyon_ | I have a functioning environment using the patches | 18:14 |
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| Tango | Do you have 5 BP's? | 18:15 |
| daneyon_ | I can create a baymodel that uses the k8s coe, flannel network-driver and --labels to pass in flannel config parameters such as cid, subnetlen, use_vxlan | 18:15 |
| daneyon_ | Tango... that's a good question :-) | 18:16 |
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| daneyon_ | I need to double check. | 18:16 |
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| daneyon_ | I have combined the client net-driver and labels into a single patch, so maybe that's why I'm missing one | 18:16 |
| daneyon_ | Let me take 2 minutes to verify | 18:16 |
| Tango | ah ok, just making sure I didn't miss any :) | 18:17 |
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| daneyon_ | Looks like i combined the conductor and baymodel api work into a single patch | 18:18 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/conductor-template-net-update | 18:19 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/extend-api-network-attributes | 18:19 |
| Tango | sounds good | 18:19 |
| daneyon_ | those 2 bp's = https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214909/ | 18:19 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214909/ | 18:19 |
| daneyon_ | currently, all my work has focused on k8s | 18:20 |
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| daneyon_ | should i include mesos and swarm out of the gate or use separate patches to add net-driver and labels to those? | 18:21 |
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| hongbin | better in separated patch to make it easy to review | 18:21 |
| Tango | +1 | 18:21 |
| daneyon_ | I lean towards separate patches so the community can start kicking the tires. | 18:22 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto do you have a preference? | 18:22 |
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| daneyon_ | #agreed net-driver and labels will initially support k8s and separate patches will be used to extend support to mesos and swarm. | 18:24 |
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| daneyon_ | ok, a little more info on the state of the patches.... | 18:25 |
| daneyon_ | as i mentioned, net-driver and labels work | 18:25 |
| daneyon_ | I am updating the net-driver code to perform validation of the net-sriver value (i.e. flannel). | 18:25 |
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| daneyon_ | so if the client supplied network-driver=foobar, the api will validate and provide an error back instead of heat providing the error during the stack create | 18:26 |
| daneyon_ | please speak up if you have any issues with this. | 18:26 |
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| daneyon_ | as add'l drivers get supported, the validation will need to expand | 18:27 |
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| Tango | So all drivers will be loaded when the conductor starts? | 18:27 |
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| daneyon_ | i am also going through the review comments of the different patch sets to make sure i address everyone's feedback... I was busy just trying to get things working first. | 18:28 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango all driver-related heat params will get initialized when conductor starts. | 18:28 |
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| Tango | ok, so to add a new driver, we need to restart the conductor | 18:29 |
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| daneyon_ | here is an example: | 18:29 |
| daneyon_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217888/5/magnum/conductor/template_definition.py | 18:29 |
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| daneyon_ | as part of initialization, baymodel labels get loaded just like bay/baymodel attr's | 18:30 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango when net-driver validation is complete, the api services will need to get reloaded too | 18:31 |
| daneyon_ | Tango make sense? | 18:31 |
| daneyon_ | any issues with that? | 18:31 |
| Tango | ok, sounds reasonable, since we expect the cloud provider to do this work | 18:32 |
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| daneyon_ | it took me a while to fully wrap my head around how template_definition.py works | 18:33 |
| daneyon_ | any other questions or concerns about the WIP patches? | 18:33 |
| daneyon_ | I also need to updates some of the tests. | 18:34 |
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| daneyon_ | Since we agreed on not supporting swarm/mesos in these patches, I am hoping to remove WIP in the next 2 days. | 18:34 |
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| daneyon_ | #topic Review Action Items | 18:34 |
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| adrian_otto | why did we agree to that? | 18:35 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone to spend additional time reviewing the kuryr design spec in more detail | 18:35 |
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| adrian_otto | I completed that ask, and submitted my vote. | 18:35 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto scrolling back up, 1 moment | 18:36 |
| daneyon_ | simplify the reviews | 18:37 |
| daneyon_ | make them smaller | 18:37 |
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| daneyon_ | get the code merged quicker | 18:37 |
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| daneyon_ | get the community using the features quicker | 18:37 |
| adrian_otto | then there should be a separate WIP review for each bay type | 18:37 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto agreed. my intension is to create WIP reviews for the follow-on bay types (swarm and then mesos) | 18:38 |
| adrian_otto | we can not, for example, only implement labels only in the k8s bay type without a concrete plan to also support hem in the other bay types as well. | 18:38 |
| hongbin | I think porting the implementation to other bay types is easy | 18:38 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto agreed. labels and network-driver will be supported in all. | 18:38 |
| hongbin | once we agree how to do that in k8s | 18:38 |
| adrian_otto | do we have a BP for each bay type, or one BP for all? | 18:39 |
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| daneyon_ | I think the general feeling was to make the reviews small, focused, etc.. | 18:39 |
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| daneyon_ | Trying to take down all 3 bay types in the current patches can mean lots of lines to comb through | 18:40 |
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| adrian_otto | yes, I like that, but I'm worried about losing sight of a consistent suer experience across different bay types. | 18:40 |
| adrian_otto | I wanted to be sure we cover that base so we don't slip in a feature that does not get done in all the bay types | 18:40 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto one BP for all... I need to double-check if the BP addresses the bay types... if not, i'll add it | 18:40 |
| adrian_otto | ok, and are your linkt to that BP | 18:41 |
| adrian_otto | partially implements <bp> | 18:41 |
| daneyon_ | so when WIP is removed, I will make sure it indicated partially addressing the associated BPs | 18:41 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto understood. I don;t see the job being done until network-driver and labels is supported across all the bay types | 18:42 |
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| daneyon_ | i'll make sure the reviews indicate partially addressing the BP's | 18:42 |
| adrian_otto | for example, the commit message on https://review.openstack.org/217888 needs more explanation of that approach | 18:43 |
| daneyon_ | adrian_otto completely agree the feature needs to address all bay types. You have my commitment that net-driver and labels will get implemented across all bay types | 18:43 |
| adrian_otto | great, we are on the same page. you can move on now. | 18:43 |
| hongbin | Unfortunately, many features are inconsistent across bay types right now. We will need several BPs to sync them | 18:43 |
| daneyon_ | I don't want my name associated to half baked work products | 18:44 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto all commit msgs will be updated when I remove WIP. | 18:44 |
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| daneyon_ | hongbin and adrian_otto this is a good point you bring up | 18:45 |
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| daneyon_ | Do you know off hand if this is a discussion topic for the DS? | 18:45 |
| daneyon_ | If not, I +1 the topic | 18:45 |
| adrian_otto | I willneed to look | 18:45 |
| hongbin | what is DS? | 18:45 |
| daneyon_ | Providing an inconsistent experience across bay types can provide users headaches | 18:46 |
| daneyon_ | DS=design summit | 18:46 |
| hongbin | daneyon_: I see | 18:46 |
| daneyon_ | OK, back to the topic of action items | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone to spend additional time reviewing the kuryr design spec in more detail | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | we covered this a bit ago | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | pls perform your final review(s) | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | and indicate what you need to +1 the spec... otherwise +1 it ;-) | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone to review the kuryr/magnum integration etherpad in more detail. | 18:47 |
| daneyon_ | ^ get your final thoughts, feedback, etc.. into the ep because gsagie and I are going to clean it up on Monday | 18:48 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: danehans work with gsagie to organize the integration ep before next meeting | 18:48 |
| daneyon_ | ^ Again, this will be done on Monday. We will use next week's meeting to review the cleaned-up ep. | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: everyone test network-driver wip patches | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | Pls speak up if you have tested the patches | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | I know dane_leblanc and 1 other person have successfully tested the patches, so I'm feeling pretty good about them. | 18:49 |
| daneyon_ | ACTION: danehans to coordinate with kuryr team on a design summit session. | 18:50 |
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| daneyon_ | I spoke with gsagie about this action | 18:50 |
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| daneyon_ | They are still working through the details, but they are expecting to have a session at the DS and would like our participation. | 18:50 |
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| daneyon_ | I will carry this forward until we have something concrete | 18:51 |
| Tango | Are their session not overlapping with ours? | 18:51 |
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| daneyon_ | adrian_otto have the details been finalized for our DS sessions? | 18:51 |
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| daneyon_ | Tango I'm not sure. Is this what you have heard? | 18:52 |
| Tango | I don't know either, just checking | 18:52 |
| daneyon_ | Tango: gsagie told me they are still working through the details of the DS sessions and could not provide any specifics or commitments. | 18:53 |
| Tango | ok | 18:53 |
| daneyon_ | #action danehans to continue coordinating with gsagie on a combined kuryr/magnum design summit session. | 18:53 |
| daneyon_ | that's it for action items | 18:54 |
| daneyon_ | any questions on the action items? | 18:54 |
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| daneyon_ | otherwise we have just a few minutes for open discussion | 18:54 |
| daneyon_ | #topic Open Discussion | 18:54 |
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| hongbin | I wonder if any thing news from the kuryr team | 18:55 |
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| hongbin | daneyon_: Do they have a meeting last week? | 18:55 |
| daneyon_ | hongbin unfortunatly I was unable to attend the kuryr virtual sprint the last 2 days. | 18:56 |
| hongbin | I see | 18:56 |
| hongbin | Just wonder what is the sharp of the project | 18:56 |
| hongbin | never mind | 18:56 |
| daneyon_ | Looks like they met on Monday | 18:56 |
| daneyon_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2015/ | 18:56 |
| daneyon_ | #action everyone to take a few minutes reviewing the 9/7/2015 kuryr meeting logs | 18:57 |
| daneyon_ | hongbin thanks for bringing it up | 18:57 |
| daneyon_ | Monday was a US holiday | 18:57 |
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| daneyon_ | and i've been trying to stay focused on bringing the WIP patches home | 18:57 |
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| daneyon_ | OK, so please take a few minutes to review the Kuryr meeting logs | 18:58 |
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| daneyon_ | Thanks for joining today's meeting! | 18:58 |
| daneyon_ | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 18:58:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-09-10-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-09-10-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/container_networking/2015/container_networking.2015-09-10-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
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| thomasem | Cheers1 | 19:00 |
| stevemar | o/ | 19:00 |
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| dtroyer | o/ | 19:01 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: you up for running the show? | 19:01 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting OpenStackClient | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 19:01:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| dtroyer | yup ;) | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:01 |
| lhcheng | o/ | 19:01 |
| stevemar | yay! | 19:02 |
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| stevemar | topics: lhcheng nod, swift accounts, any lingering patches before we release one more version in L | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | so let's get started then… | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | #topic lhcheng core status | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | looks like that will be a thing tomorrow, welcome Lin | 19:04 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: will you push a git tag on stable/kilo for vmware-nsx? tag=2015.1.2 | 19:05 |
| salv-orlando | sorry wrong room | 19:05 |
| stevemar | salv-orlando: it happens ;) | 19:05 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i was thinking, when i did my ML post, i picked friday arbitrarily, maybe today at the end of the meeting is better :) | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | #topic next release | 19:05 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar: it is usually a week, we have a small community and pretty much know the outcome, I'm fine with that | 19:06 |
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| stevemar | cool :) | 19:06 |
| stevemar | #action make lhcheng core at end of meeting | 19:06 |
| stevemar | kk, next release | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | for release bits, I'd like to get terry's log bits finished for completeness | 19:07 |
| lhcheng | stevemar: thanks for the nomination :) | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | do you feel strongly about the v3 default for this? | 19:08 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i'm on the fence | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | this release is likely to be informally considered 'Liberty' | 19:08 |
| lhcheng | thanks dtroyer, will try to help the team as much as I can. | 19:08 |
| stevemar | maybe wait til M, this way devstack and osc are both v3 by default | 19:09 |
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| dtroyer | lhcheng: thank you, you have already been a great help | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: I'm ok with that | 19:09 |
| * lhcheng slow to respond - have another meeting at this time | 19:09 | |
| dtroyer | np | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | I don't think I see any others that I'd want to hold up a release for | 19:10 |
| lhcheng | I wonder if we should do more testing on nova command before release, just to make sure the latest release of novaclient doesn't break anything else. | 19:10 |
| stevemar | i'd like this in ... | 19:11 |
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| stevemar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212977/ | 19:11 |
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| stevemar | and this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217647/ | 19:12 |
| dtroyer | +2 on the first one, not sure how I missed it this morning | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | on the second one, and it's followup, I'd like better help strings to clarify when the domain arg is needed | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | what is there doesn't seem clear to me | 19:14 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: so that help string ... | 19:18 |
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| stevemar | we might have to change :) | 19:18 |
| stevemar | https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/identity/common.py#L126-L153 | 19:18 |
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| dtroyer | probably. good help is more important that a few lines of code | 19:19 |
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| stevemar | if you want, you can push through that previous patch in question, and we can open a bug to fix up the strings here? | 19:19 |
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| stevemar | we just need to decide on the veribiage | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | if I do it I might un-normalize thos e functions ;) | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | but I can do that | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | #action dtroyer: follow up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217647/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211835/ to clarify help strings | 19:21 |
| stevemar | nooo don't un-normalize :P | 19:21 |
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| dtroyer | I don't see a huge win with the functions if they tryly are not common... | 19:22 |
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| dtroyer | maybe use a decorator? | 19:22 |
| * dtroyer ducks | 19:22 | |
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| stevemar | i really dont like decorators | 19:24 |
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| dtroyer | I'm not a big fan either, but that logging review seemed simple enough | 19:25 |
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| stevemar | the function was common though! it's common to neutron/nova and keystone so far | 19:25 |
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| stevemar | updating the stuff in /doc won't be fun >.< | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | does the same help string make sense in all of the use cases? | 19:25 |
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| dtroyer | I'm not convinced it does | 19:26 |
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| stevemar | so, the individual --project or --user may differ | 19:27 |
| stevemar | but --project-domain and --user-domain and --group-domain should all be the same | 19:27 |
| stevemar | its "use this option if you want to specify a <thing> in a non-default domain" | 19:27 |
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| dtroyer | that's not what the current help says, it talks about collisions. | 19:28 |
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| dtroyer | so if there is one foo in all of the projects, I don't need —project-domain even if foo isn't in the default domain? | 19:28 |
| stevemar | i'll admit the current verbiage is not the best | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | no, you need --project-domain even if foo is the only one | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer | I just need to be clear on what the actual requirement is to fix it | 19:29 |
| stevemar | i get what you're saying | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | gotcha | 19:29 |
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| * dtroyer again wishes domain had been grafted onto project with a separator | 19:30 | |
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| dtroyer | any other reviews we should talk about? | 19:30 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: nah, you need users to be in a certain domain, sometimes, | 19:32 |
| stevemar | thats the theory anyway | 19:32 |
| stevemar | umm | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | depending on how fast i code up the swift-y bits, are you game for merging those? | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | #topic object-store 'account' naming | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | I just want to go on record in a searchable place that, I really don' tlike using 'account' in the object-store context like that. I honestly feel like it is a dis-service to users who are not familiar with Swift's history | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | or not reading API/deployment docs | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | but I can be done with that now | 19:35 |
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| stevemar | i kinda like "openstack project set --object-store-property" | 19:35 |
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| dtroyer | I thought about that too… | 19:36 |
| stevemar | but then we'll have to check if swift is enabled and such | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | but the user _still_ has to know the difference | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | that's easy…service catalog | 19:36 |
| stevemar | i call upon dhellmann | 19:36 |
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| stevemar | damn, didn't work | 19:36 |
| stevemar | normally does | 19:36 |
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| stevemar | bucket? | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | the icky part is that project XXX anythign is cloud admin only | 19:37 |
| stevemar | not project list | 19:37 |
| terrylhowe | maybe os object property set/list/unset | 19:37 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: leave the room | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | I'd rather use acocunt than invent a new word | 19:37 |
| terrylhowe | or container property set/list/unset :) | 19:38 |
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| dtroyer | the problem is those properties apply to swift's account thingy, not to objects or containers | 19:38 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: doesn't container have set/unset already | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | it should | 19:38 |
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| dtroyer | I feel like we're losing grasp of the consistency, especially with multiple plugins doing stuff willy-nilly | 19:39 |
| terrylhowe | anyway, sorry I’m late carry on with the debug. I don’t really have any good ideas on this one. | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | so maybe it isn't too bad. go ahead with account and if I figure it out clearly before we release I'll do the work if everyone agrees | 19:40 |
| stevemar | yes, it does, not sure if we expose it | 19:40 |
| stevemar | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-objectstorage-v1.html | 19:40 |
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| stevemar | you can set metadata on account/container and object | 19:40 |
| stevemar | alright, i'll continue to hack on it, just let me know if you think of a better name | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | anything else on that shed? | 19:42 |
| stevemar | lol | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | will do | 19:42 |
| stevemar | naw | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | so I have not even looked at the bug list yet… how is it? | 19:42 |
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| stevemar | we're just waiting until the other clients release now, i'm assuming dhellmann and others from the rel team know / realize that we'll be the last ones | 19:43 |
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| stevemar | its not so bad | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer | anything we need to bring up? | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | I promise to have been through it by next week | 19:44 |
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| stevemar | there are oddly a lot of new ones | 19:46 |
| stevemar | damn | 19:46 |
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| terrylhowe | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1489917 | 19:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489917 in python-openstackclient "Pretty much all --os- auth options are broken" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | I started look at that one and got sidetracked | 19:48 |
| dtroyer | nice | 19:48 |
| dtroyer | is that in an unusual configuration? | 19:48 |
| terrylhowe | I don’t think so, just regular options like —os-username —os-password don’t work | 19:49 |
| terrylhowe | they are ignored | 19:49 |
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| terrylhowe | It think the problem is they are not mapped to auth.username and auth.password for occ | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | ten minutes….other bugs? | 19:50 |
| terrylhowe | nothing here | 19:50 |
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| stevemar | we should fix that one before releasing.. | 19:51 |
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| stevemar | thats a pretty major regression no? | 19:52 |
| dtroyer | it would be if it's for real…I've not noticed anythign like that happening to me so far and I'm stil using env vars/args for about half of my config | 19:53 |
| stevemar | i'll try and reproduce too | 19:53 |
| stevemar | i'm done for today! | 19:54 |
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| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:54 |
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| dtroyer | what's on our minds? | 19:54 |
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| stevemar | *wind rustles gently* | 19:55 |
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| stevemar | we should poke cinder folks in tokyo, on switching to osc | 19:56 |
| terrylhowe | agreed | 19:56 |
| dtroyer | #action give stevemar a stick in Tokyo | 19:56 |
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| stevemar | i think that's the next closest CLI | 19:57 |
| stevemar | keystone CLI is going the way of the dinosaur | 19:57 |
| stevemar | in M | 19:57 |
| stevemar | possibly L | 19:57 |
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| stevemar | glance would be the next logical one, there isn't too much to it? or maybe i'm wrong | 19:58 |
| stevemar | though, they've started to work on v3 of their API now | 19:59 |
| stevemar | yeesh | 19:59 |
| dtroyer | Image is going to be interesting…see nik's recent (minutes ago) post to the ML on glanceclient and back-compat | 19:59 |
| dtroyer | dunno yet if that should concern us or if it;s just cli | 19:59 |
| dtroyer | in any case, bring on the SDK! | 20:00 |
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| dtroyer | let's get out of the business of being beholden to arbitrary decisions | 20:00 |
| dtroyer | and with that my soap box is whisked away | 20:00 |
| dtroyer | thanks guys! | 20:00 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 20:00:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-09-10-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-09-10-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-09-10-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| mikal | Nova meeting? | 20:59 |
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| mikal | tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcookekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 jaypipes garyk edleafe dims moshele anteaya Nisha sileht claudiub lxsli neiljerram markus_z swamireddy alevine tonyb andreykurilin ndipanov sc68cal akuriata artom jlvillal mnestratov kashyap aloga rgeragnov bauzas xyang tpatil med_ nic scottda nagyz dannywilson belliott dguitarbite sdague: ping | 21:00 |
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| bauzas | \....~o | 21:00 |
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| cburgess | pong | 21:00 |
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| claudiub|2 | o/ | 21:00 |
| tonyb | o/ | 21:00 |
| nic | \o | 21:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:00 |
| mikal | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 10 21:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| scottda | hi | 21:00 |
| ctrath | o/ | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
| dims | \o/ | 21:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| mikal | Morning y'all | 21:01 |
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| edleafe | o/ | 21:01 |
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| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| cburgess | o/ | 21:01 |
| mikal | So, the agenda is in the usual place | 21:01 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 21:01 |
| mikal | Let's get going | 21:01 |
| mriedem | o/ | 21:01 |
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| mikal | #topic String freeze | 21:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "String freeze (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mikal | Has everyone seen John's email about tweaks to the string freeze? | 21:01 |
| mriedem | sure, sounds like anything goes until rc1 | 21:02 |
| mikal | Well, new strings are better than tweaked strings, yes? | 21:02 |
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| mikal | #url http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073942.html | 21:02 |
| melwitt | yes | 21:02 |
| mikal | Anyways, just making sure people saw it unless someone has questions | 21:02 |
| mikal | #topic Release critical bugs | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release critical bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mikal | So, we're now at the point where we need to identify bugs which block a release | 21:03 |
| mikal | The tag for that is "liberty-rc-potential" | 21:03 |
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| mikal | Things which are agreed to be release blockers will be targetted to the liberty-rc1 milestone | 21:04 |
| jlvillal | o/ | 21:04 |
| mikal | #url https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 21:04 |
| mikal | And then we basically fix those things until they're all fixed, and then release | 21:04 |
| mikal | i.e. the more on that list, and the longer they take to fix, the longer we wait before we open Mitaka | 21:04 |
| mikal | Comments? | 21:05 |
| bauzas | fine to me | 21:05 |
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| mikal | John is also asking priority teams to track their bugs on the priority tracking etherpad as well | 21:05 |
| mikal | But this seems uncontroversial | 21:05 |
| mikal | Next topic? | 21:06 |
| mriedem | you'd be surprised | 21:06 |
| mikal | Well, in the no one has said anything here sense | 21:06 |
| mikal | Silence == total happiness, right? | 21:06 |
| bauzas | yeah, no netsplit :) | 21:06 |
| mikal | Moving on in 3... | 21:06 |
| mikal | 2... | 21:06 |
| mriedem | go | 21:06 |
| mikal | 1... | 21:07 |
| bauzas | john was asking to update the etherpad, but we're good | 21:07 |
| mikal | #topic Gate status | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mikal | mriedem: its your time to shine | 21:07 |
| mriedem | gate was fubar this morning, ok now | 21:07 |
| mriedem | reasons are in ML | 21:07 |
| mriedem | that's it | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | s/reasons/who to hate this week/ | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | pyeclib | 21:07 |
| mriedem | and g-r | 21:08 |
| tonyb | do I have to limit it to only this week? | 21:08 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:08 |
| mikal | Moving on then? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:08 |
| edleafe | tonyb: don't live in the past | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i added the 3rd party CI bit | 21:08 |
| mikal | #topic 3rd party CI status | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3rd party CI status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| dansmith | they're all broken | 21:08 |
| mriedem | mostly as a heads up that there is a dashboard | 21:08 |
| * mikal clicks the link | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | but yeah, xenproject ci, hyperv ci, intel pci ci, and probably vmware are out to lunch | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | which reminds me, i need to add elastic-recheck as a thing for 3rd party ci to the qa meetup agenda for next week | 21:09 |
| * johnthetubaguy lurks | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | oh creepy! | 21:09 |
| mikal | Hyper-V looks really bad | 21:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wonder at what point we put log messages in saying the CI is broken during the RC period so we have no idea if this works | 21:10 |
| mriedem | ociuhandu: is working on hyper-v ci | 21:10 |
| mikal | Ditto VmWare | 21:10 |
| krtaylor | there are several dashboards, we are working to consolidate the efforts | 21:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | talking generally more than specifically | 21:10 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: we can propose those things now, | 21:10 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: release notes, not log messages | 21:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the Xen stuff is more about bobball being on holiday | 21:10 |
| dansmith | and commit them closer if we're worried | 21:10 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: that's the sort of thing an admin should be warned about explicitly | 21:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mikal: I was thinking both, but yes | 21:11 |
| dansmith | mikal: we've historically done log messages | 21:11 |
| mikal | I would be happy with both | 21:11 |
| mikal | I just think log messages alone isn't enough | 21:11 |
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| dansmith | mikal: I was going to hire a skywriter for tokyo | 21:11 |
| mikal | LOL | 21:11 |
| dansmith | but release notes work too I guess | 21:11 |
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| mikal | Anything else on this topic? Or move on? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | move on | 21:12 |
| mikal | #topic Critical bugs | 21:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:12 | |
| mikal | Which I guess kind of means "release critical bugs" now | 21:12 |
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| mikal | Of which there are non targetted to liberty-rc1 at the moment | 21:13 |
| mikal | none even | 21:13 |
| mikal | There are five criticals in the bug tracker | 21:13 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.importance%3Alist=CRITICAL&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used | 21:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | we should probably target some of those I guess | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i see 2 | 21:13 |
| mikal | I am being shown fix committed / not yet released as well for some reason | 21:14 |
| mriedem | ignore those | 21:14 |
| mikal | But yeah, two unfixed | 21:14 |
| mikal | One tempest, one paste config thing | 21:14 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1489581 is not critical for nova, dropped it to medium | 21:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489581 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_create_ebs_image_and_check_boot is race failing" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:14 |
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| mikal | Ok, cool. Its also unassigned. | 21:14 |
| mriedem | the other is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1491511 | 21:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491511 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Behavior change with latest nova paste config" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Alex Xu (xuhj) | 21:15 |
| mriedem | which is the bug that keeps on giving | 21:15 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: do we want to have a go at targetting some of these to liberty-rc1 now, or do you want to do that outside of meetings? | 21:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | not sure about using everyones time for that | 21:16 |
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| mikal | I think in the past we've asked people to propose things here to add? | 21:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could use the tag for a recommendation system? | 21:16 |
| mikal | And then done quick yes / no discussions? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i don't think that 1491511 is critical anymore | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | sdague was saying the v2.0 compat job was stabilizing now | 21:16 |
| dansmith | mikal: johnthetubaguy +1, tag as candidate | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and asked about making it voting | 21:16 |
| mikal | Ok, that's fair | 21:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yeah that scales better | 21:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think its liberty-rc-proposed or something like that | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i just tagged it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | liberty-rc-potential | 21:17 |
| mikal | And then maybe do some irc channel drivers meeting to convert those to targets | 21:17 |
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| mikal | Shall we move on? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | please | 21:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, see how bad it looks once folks tag | 21:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, moving on | 21:17 |
| mikal | #topic Stable branch status | 21:17 |
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| mikal | I know tonyb has been doing things here? | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | stable is okish | 21:18 |
| mriedem | nothing to report | 21:18 |
| mikal | OK | 21:18 |
| mikal | #topic Design summit | 21:18 |
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| mikal | I kind of want John to talk to this one | 21:19 |
| mikal | johnthetubaguy: please do that thing | 21:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh year | 21:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | so basically, the current plan is to just setup things like the last two summits | 21:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking of using a google form to collect ideas | 21:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | instead of an etherpad | 21:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so its easier to find out who suggested things | 21:20 |
| bauzas | any way to see the proposals ? | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, there is a link | 21:20 |
| bauzas | oh man, just saw it | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | hey, let me find the link to the prototype | 21:21 |
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| bauzas | that's in the agenda | 21:21 |
| bauzas | #link http://goo.gl/forms/D2Qk8XGhZ6 | 21:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ah, that was good of me | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | do folks think we should open that up for suggestion now | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | its tempting to wait to we cut RC1 really | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | its really for the next PTL technically | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | but you know, get things lined up | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | seems fine to post now | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | i was going to add the rootwrap thing from the ML | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 21:22 |
| mikal | I think post it | 21:22 |
| tonyb | johnthetubaguy: I think now is fine. There wont be a rush ;P | 21:22 |
| mriedem | i'd think we should hash out sessions earlier rather than later | 21:22 |
| mikal | It doesn't constraint the new PTL at all | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: agreed | 21:22 |
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| mikal | constrain even | 21:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cool so I will do an ML post in the morning | 21:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we can move on if there are no questions really | 21:23 |
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| mikal | Anything else on that one? | 21:23 |
| mikal | Have we got an etherpad for the Friday yet? | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have 14 fishbols and the afternoon | 21:23 |
| mikal | Or will that be part of your email? | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | mikal: nope, I should add that into that I supose | 21:23 |
| mikal | Oh, the Friday is a half day this time? | 21:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, I think we have all day actually | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | so basically the same, if I understand it correctly | 21:24 |
| mikal | Cool | 21:24 |
| mikal | Move on then? | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 21:24 |
| mikal | #topic Stuck reviews | 21:24 |
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| mikal | Noting our definition of stuck please | 21:25 |
| mikal | And nothing is listed on the agenda | 21:25 |
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| mikal | So we're off the hook this time? | 21:25 |
| mikal | Going... | 21:25 |
| dansmith | yes, go | 21:25 |
| mikal | ...going... | 21:25 |
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| mikal | ...gone | 21:25 |
| mikal | #topic Open Discussion | 21:25 |
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| mikal | Please discuss openly | 21:25 |
| mikal | ...or not | 21:26 |
| mriedem | so it's kind of a long story but.... | 21:26 |
| dansmith | NO | 21:26 |
| mriedem | ha | 21:26 |
| dansmith | hehe | 21:26 |
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| mriedem | once upon a time... | 21:26 |
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| mikal | We're done? | 21:27 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:27 |
| mikal | #endmeeting | 21:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 10 21:27:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-09-10-21.00.html | 21:27 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-09-10-21.00.txt | 21:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-09-10-21.00.log.html | 21:27 |
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