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| boris-42 | #startmeeting rally | 14:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 14:02:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:02 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:02 |
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| andreykurilin__ | o/ | 14:02 |
| esikachev | o/ | 14:02 |
| andreykurilin__ | \o | 14:02 |
| yingjun | :) | 14:02 |
| rvasilets__ | \o/ | 14:02 |
| boris-42 | hey hey | 14:02 |
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| boris-42 | first time on time=) | 14:02 |
| ikhudoshyn | hi there | 14:02 |
| andreykurilin__ | heh | 14:02 |
| boris-42 | #topic Agenda | 14:03 |
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| e0ne | hi | 14:03 |
| boris-42 | Todays agenda is not big | 14:03 |
| boris-42 | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally | 14:03 |
| boris-42 | just 2 points | 14:03 |
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| boris-42 | if somebody would like to discuss something else you have time to do add it on | 14:03 |
| yfried__ | hi | 14:04 |
| boris-42 | #topic [esikachev] Swift context for Sahara in Rally | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[esikachev] Swift context for Sahara in Rally (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:04 | |
| boris-42 | yfried__: hi there | 14:04 |
| esikachev | hi! i have a patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177732/ | 14:04 |
| esikachev | in sahara context need create and delete swift containers | 14:05 |
| esikachev | upload objects | 14:05 |
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| esikachev | but in swift context i can't see this methods | 14:05 |
| esikachev | and i propose write this | 14:05 |
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| boris-42 | esikachev: I will take a look | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | there is a lot of sahara patches on review without review:( | 14:06 |
| rvasilets__ | no I have reviewed them | 14:07 |
| esikachev | patch with swift context #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179578/16 | 14:07 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: actully rvasilets__ reviewed them | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin__: few times | 14:07 |
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| boris-42 | esikachev: hm I don't see where swift resources are deleted... | 14:08 |
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| esikachev | boris-42: in cleanup of sahara context | 14:09 |
| esikachev | boris-42: L 120 | 14:09 |
| esikachev | boris-42: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178677/30/rally/plugins/openstack/context/sahara/sahara_input_data_sources.py,cm | 14:09 |
| boris-42 | ah that patch | 14:10 |
| esikachev | i think is bad | 14:10 |
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| boris-42 | esikachev: yep it is bad | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | esikachev: I will put the comments how to fix this | 14:10 |
| esikachev | boris-42: thanks | 14:10 |
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| boris-42 | okay let's move to next topic | 14:12 |
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| boris-42 | #topic Ability to specify directory with murano package files led by rvasilets | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ability to specify directory with murano package files led by rvasilets (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:13 | |
| boris-42 | rvasilets__: ping | 14:13 |
| rvasilets__ | typing | 14:13 |
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| rvasilets__ | Here is implemented feature with +2. But after an accident with +2 was lost. I was resend patch but its stack now with review. So I suggest somepne review it and give to me final approval) | 14:15 |
| rvasilets__ | eom | 14:15 |
| rvasilets__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195677/ | 14:15 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets__: ok | 14:15 |
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| boris-42 | so I believe that you should just ping other cores to review it | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets__: ^ | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | #topic Add 'description' element to scenario config led by yingjun | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add 'description' element to scenario config led by yingjun (Meeting topic: rally)" | 14:16 | |
| boris-42 | yingjun: hi | 14:17 |
| yingjun | hi | 14:17 |
| rvasilets__ | I have ping pboldin a lot of times | 14:17 |
| yingjun | it’s quite simple change | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets__: as far as I know he is in vacation | 14:17 |
| yingjun | #link https://review.openstack.org/181307 | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: it's not so simple change | 14:17 |
| yingjun | Get 'description' from scenario method then add it to the task config if the origin task config file doesn't contain description | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: I already reviewed this patch | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: e.g. this information should be somewhwere used not just added | 14:18 |
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| rvasilets__ | boris-42: I have ping him before vocation) | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: like in rally task detail and rally task report | 14:19 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: thoughts? | 14:20 |
| yingjun | boris-42, do you mean this: http://logs.openstack.org/07/181307/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/411d342/rally-plot/detailed.txt.gz | 14:20 |
| stpierre | i'd like to see the description used in, e.g., the html report | 14:21 |
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| stpierre | that would be super helpful to me (and presumably lots of other people) | 14:21 |
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| boris-42 | yingjun: I mena in "rally task detailed" command and "rally task report" | 14:22 |
| yingjun | maybe somewhere in Overview? | 14:23 |
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| boris-42 | yingjun: yep | 14:23 |
| yingjun | Okay, | 14:24 |
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| yingjun | will add that | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | yingjun: thanks | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | so open discussion | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | #topic open discussion | 14:25 |
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| boris-42 | So finally I finished most parts of relocation | 14:25 |
| boris-42 | and I will work more on Rally ;) | 14:25 |
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| rvasilets__ | yeeee | 14:25 |
| rvasilets__ | =) | 14:25 |
| kun_huang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183227/ | 14:26 |
| yfried__ | boris-42: will you have time to dive into the new task input format? | 14:26 |
| kun_huang | if anyone would like to review, :) | 14:26 |
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| boris-42 | yfried__: yep | 14:27 |
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| boris-42 | yfried__: ikhudoshyn is goign to try to work on it | 14:27 |
| boris-42 | yfried__: and I will try to finish refactoring of framework so we will be able to cut 0.1.0 release fianlly.. | 14:27 |
| yfried__ | boris-42: I really need to get back to my spec re services | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | yfried__: yep | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | yfried__: and me too | 14:28 |
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| boris-42 | yfried__: put on next agenda that | 14:28 |
| yfried__ | boris-42: ack | 14:28 |
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| boris-42 | anything else to discuss?) | 14:30 |
| rvasilets__ | quick meeting) | 14:30 |
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| temujin | >> anything else to discuss?) No ) | 14:31 |
| rvasilets__ | nothing significant from me | 14:31 |
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| andreykurilin__ | let's move to #openstack-rally :) | 14:35 |
| rvasilets__ | go) | 14:35 |
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| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 14:44:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-08-03-14.02.html | 14:44 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-08-03-14.02.txt | 14:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-08-03-14.02.log.html | 14:44 |
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| akerr | o/ | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 15:03:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | #chair asselin | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: anteaya asselin | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | <- laggy wifi | 15:03 |
| asselin | hi | 15:03 |
| eantyshev | hello! | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | asselin: do step in if I disappear | 15:04 |
| asselin | sure | 15:04 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:04 |
| anteaya | what would folks like to discuss today? | 15:04 |
| hodos | hi | 15:05 |
| akerr | I noticed the CI scoreboard website went down over the weekend. Did it move or is it broken? | 15:05 |
| anteaya | anyone with any questions? | 15:05 |
| anteaya | akerr: what link? | 15:06 |
| akerr | http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000/?project=openstack%2Fcinder&user=&timeframe=72 | 15:06 |
| asselin | that's hosted by patrickeast | 15:06 |
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| akerr | asselin: Ok, I'll ping him about it | 15:06 |
| asselin | akerr, you can host your own fyi | 15:06 |
| asselin | #link scoreboard source http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/third-party-ci-tools/tree/monitoring/scoreboard | 15:07 |
| akerr | asselin: Ah, I noticed it looking more and more like standard infra branding and wasn't sure if it finally got legitimized | 15:07 |
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| eantyshev | please, clarify that issue with merge failure reports from: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206513 | 15:08 |
| eantyshev | perhaps, we should discuss it here | 15:08 |
| asselin | just looked at the patch. | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | akerr: well I would like infra to host a copy of patrick's dashboard | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | anyone know how that spec is coming along? | 15:10 |
| asselin | from what i found, 3rd party merge failures can also occur if there's a network issue getting the source patch | 15:10 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: there is nothing a dev can do if a third party ci has a merge failure | 15:10 |
| asselin | anteaya, last I heard, there were 'issues' regarding hosting a 'temporary' solution | 15:11 |
| mmedvede | krtaylor: around? the spec question above | 15:11 |
| anteaya | so reporting that a third party ci has a merge failure is noise for the dev | 15:11 |
| anteaya | asselin: why is it considered temporary? | 15:11 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: What if it is a valid merge failure? | 15:11 |
| akerr | its perfectly possible and legitimate for a 3rd party CI to have a merge failure when Jenkins did not. If the 3rd party CI waits for jenkins to vote +1 then the time between Jenkins beginnings its jobs and it finally voting could allow the base repo to be updated by conflicting merges | 15:12 |
| asselin | anteaya, I recall the spec said so | 15:12 |
| anteaya | and yes we won't go through the effort of hosting something if it is temporary | 15:12 |
| anteaya | asselin: can we remove the wrokd temporary? | 15:12 |
| eantyshev | akerr: ++, same I wrote in review 206513 | 15:12 |
| anteaya | valid merge failure, okay what does the dev do? | 15:13 |
| akerr | anteaya: they'll have to rebase | 15:13 |
| asselin | akerr, eantyshev perhaps we need to add the merge-check to 3rd party as well | 15:13 |
| anteaya | there is nothing the dev is able to do | 15:13 |
| akerr | anteaya: In this case if jenkins were to recheck it would also find the merge failure | 15:13 |
| anteaya | on a merged patch? | 15:13 |
| mmedvede | eantyshev: on valid merge failure, upstream zuul would report the same, so no point of every third-party CI reporting the failure too | 15:13 |
| anteaya | no, we won't be asking devs to rebase for third paerty ci sytems | 15:13 |
| akerr | anteaya: this is prior to the final merge, it's during the check pipeline | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | if jenkins needs them to rebase, jenkins will tell them | 15:14 |
| anteaya | devs won't be rebaseing for any other repo other thank the one in gerrit | 15:14 |
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| akerr | anteaya: This is not a merge conflic with the 3rd party ci code, it's a conflic with the base project repo. its just that the 3rd party ci hit it first because it ran later | 15:14 |
| eantyshev | mmedvede: not exactly, there could be some time between these checks | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | s/thank/than | 15:15 |
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| krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194437/ | 15:15 |
| anteaya | devs get information for their actions from jenkins, not from third party ci systems | 15:15 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, the spec for hosting a dashboard ^^^ | 15:15 |
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| akerr | I'm indifferent on whether 3rd party ci's should comment on merge-failures though. Eventually jenkins will hit it too, so I could see the argument for silencing them | 15:16 |
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| krtaylor | re: hosting monitoring dashboard - no issues except some confusion on big solution spec being moved, but we can discuss that tomorrow in the working group meeting | 15:18 |
| anteaya | well I can't see other infra folks being willing to do the work to host a service if it is temporary | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | so word it how you like but don't expect much support from infra until that word is removed | 15:19 |
| krtaylor | it was jeblair that suggested it | 15:20 |
| anteaya | well great then he must be willing to do the work | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | to get something working immediately, then we can roll out an end-all-be-all solution | 15:21 |
| krtaylor | we can do the work once the spec is approved, there are other good examples | 15:22 |
| krtaylor | that spec just needs more reviews | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | anything more here? | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | anyone have anything more on 206513? | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | anyone have a reason why I shouldn't close this meeting? | 15:31 |
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| asselin | is anyone else using the new 3rd party ci scripts? | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | asselin: link to what scripts you mean? | 15:31 |
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| asselin | #link common-ci scripts: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/ | 15:32 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:32 |
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| asselin | silence = yes or no? | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | I talk silence to mean not anyone currently staring at their irc client | 15:34 |
| anteaya | s/talk/take | 15:35 |
| asselin | fair enough, then we can end meeting :) | 15:35 |
| mmedvede | asselin: I answered before - we use it, but not the most recent version | 15:35 |
| anteaya | is anyone considering it but hasn't yet? | 15:35 |
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| pots1 | yes, i'd like to use it for a new CI setup | 15:35 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: oh osrry I missed your answer before | 15:35 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: it has bee a few weeks ago :) | 15:36 |
| anteaya | pots1: thanks, can you share feedback with asselin when you do | 15:36 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: ah I forget anything longer than 5 minutes ago | 15:36 |
| asselin | mmedvede, thanks for the reminder. glad to hear it | 15:36 |
| pots1 | will do | 15:36 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: any feeback on the scripts? | 15:36 |
| anteaya | pots1: thank you | 15:37 |
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| pots1 | has there been any consideration of trying to provide pre-built images? | 15:37 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: the puppet module works, but we still can not use it "as is", minor adjustments necessary for our CI, but they can go away soon | 15:37 |
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| asselin | #link WIP patch for common-ci https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200330/ | 15:37 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: okay thank you | 15:37 |
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| asselin | reviews would be appreciated, at least at the level of "right or wrong direction" | 15:38 |
| anteaya | mmedvede pots1 would either of you have some time to review 200330? | 15:38 |
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| asselin | pots1, what do you mean by pre-build images? | 15:39 |
| mmedvede | anteaya: I'll find some time | 15:39 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: thank you | 15:39 |
| asselin | mmedvede, thanks | 15:39 |
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| pots1 | in other words, minimal linux images with the packages installed. | 15:40 |
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| asselin | pots1, I think the idea is to start with base linux image and have a script that does the right thing from there | 15:41 |
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| pots1 | e.g. the log server should be pretty simple but it took me a while to figure out what packages it depended on. i am new to puppet and so far it has only made things harder. | 15:41 |
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| asselin | pots1, which documentation are you following? | 15:42 |
| pots1 | your github repo readme.md | 15:42 |
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| pots1 | and anything else i can find. as a noob i'm not finding the docs easy to follow. | 15:43 |
| asselin | pots1, feedback would be very much appreciated, espceially specifics | 15:43 |
| pots1 | sure, may i pm you? | 15:44 |
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| anteaya | pots1: can you offer some patches with what you would like to see? | 15:44 |
| asselin | pots1, sure | 15:44 |
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| pots1 | will do | 15:45 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:45 |
| anteaya | anything more here? | 15:45 |
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| asselin | not from me | 15:47 |
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| anteaya | thanks asselin | 15:47 |
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| anteaya | any reason why I shouldn't close the meeting? | 15:47 |
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| pots1 | asselin anteaya: thanks | 15:47 |
| anteaya | pots1: thanks for speaking up | 15:48 |
| anteaya | well let's wrap pu then | 15:48 |
| anteaya | thanks to everyone for your kind attendance and participation | 15:48 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:48 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 15:48:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-03-15.03.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-03-15.03.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-03-15.03.log.html | 15:49 |
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| akuznetsova | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 16:03:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is akuznetsova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:03 |
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| akuznetsova | Hi there | 16:03 |
| ^Gal^ | hi! | 16:03 |
| gpaz | Hello everyone | 16:03 |
| melisha | Hi | 16:03 |
| akuznetsova | let's wait a couple of minutes | 16:04 |
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| NikolayM | hi everyone! | 16:04 |
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| NikolayM | sorry I'm late | 16:04 |
| akuznetsova | NikolayM, no problem, I've started meeting | 16:05 |
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| akuznetsova | Renat has to skip today's meeting | 16:06 |
| gpaz | Gal, Moshe & I here | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | hey guys, good to be back with you again after vacation. I bring my apologies: I won't be able to be here with you cause I need to get ready for my flight to Israel through Moscow | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | so Nikolay and Anastasia will drive the meeting | 16:06 |
| NikolayM | gpaz, ok | 16:06 |
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| ^Gal^ | rakhmerov: have a good flight! | 16:07 |
| akuznetsova | I guess, that we can start | 16:07 |
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| NikolayM | yes. let's start | 16:07 |
| akuznetsova | Let's review items from previous meeting | 16:07 |
| akuznetsova | NikolayM, all: look and review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/tasks-screen-improvments | 16:08 |
| NikolayM | so, basically done | 16:08 |
| NikolayM | looks good | 16:08 |
| ^Gal^ | Liat started working on that screen | 16:08 |
| ^Gal^ | she's doing good | 16:08 |
| NikolayM | I just want approving from Renat | 16:08 |
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| akuznetsova | ok, next one: NikolayM, all: look and review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dashboard-cron-trigger-screen | 16:09 |
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| NikolayM | done too | 16:09 |
| akuznetsova | the same status ?) | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: thanks ) I guess I'll see you tomorrow in person :) | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | akuznetsova, yes :) | 16:09 |
| ^Gal^ | rakhmerov: You bet :) | 16:09 |
| akuznetsova | and the last one: NikolayM: talk to rakhmerov about moving weekly meeting to earlier time | 16:10 |
| melisha | NikolayM: cron-trigger was not started yet. We don't think we will be able to do it for L-3 | 16:10 |
| NikolayM | akuznetsova: not done yet | 16:10 |
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| NikolayM | melisha, oh, ok | 16:11 |
| akuznetsova | ok, I hope we will find appropriate time for all of us | 16:12 |
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| melisha | NikolayM: We have 2 UI persons - one on Executions and one on Tasks. The learning curve is quite big | 16:12 |
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| NikolayM | melisha, ok, not a big problem | 16:13 |
| ^Gal^ | yeah, the two trouble makers are myself and Liat | 16:13 |
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| akuznetsova | that's all from previous meeting | 16:13 |
| akuznetsova | #topic Current Status | 16:13 |
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| ^Gal^ | Current status: JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO DEBUG DASHBOARDS!!!! | 16:14 |
| ^Gal^ | Spent recent time trying to figure out how to debug Mistral-Dashboard or Horizon or any other Openstack dashboard - using PyCharm. | 16:14 |
| ^Gal^ | Encountered many different problems. | 16:14 |
| ^Gal^ | Think we should add it to our docs, I would happily do the PyCharm part. | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | my status: Fixed tests (and actually algorythm of with-items-concurrency), thanks to xylan_kong | 16:14 |
| NikolayM | ^Gal^: that's awesome :) | 16:15 |
| ^Gal^ | NikolayM: lol tnx :D | 16:15 |
| gpaz | my status: Expiration-executions-policy , in progress, pushed and reviewed with Nikolay, I discussed with Moshe and we think it will be better currently (L-3) we will only use a “counter” in minutes (time period) and next phase maybe we will and the cron pattern. | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | my status: prepared commit to openstack-infra with addition of new gate for running unit tests against postgresql | 16:15 |
| NikolayM | also I reviewed almost all the patches | 16:15 |
| melisha | I published the http://yaqluator.com :-) | 16:15 |
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| akuznetsova | melisha, awesome name for project) | 16:16 |
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| NikolayM | melisha, the yaqluator is very-very useful tool! | 16:16 |
| melisha | akuznetsova: Thanks. How would have thought that the domain would be free?! :-) | 16:17 |
| melisha | NikolayM: Thanks. | 16:17 |
| melisha | Gal was also in my Hackathon group | 16:17 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, :-) | 16:17 |
| ^Gal^ | yeah, yaqluator ftw! | 16:17 |
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| akuznetsova | ok, thanks for status update | 16:18 |
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| akuznetsova | so, let's go to the next topic | 16:19 |
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| akuznetsova | #topic Open Discussion | 16:19 |
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| akuznetsova | guys, any topics for today's discussion ? | 16:19 |
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| akuznetsova | NikolayM, what about migration to yaql 1.0.0 ? | 16:21 |
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| m4dcoder | +1 on the yaqluator. good job. | 16:21 |
| NikolayM | I spoke with murano folks and they said that they are ready to move right at this week | 16:21 |
| akuznetsova | Hi, m4dcoder | 16:22 |
| m4dcoder | :D | 16:22 |
| melisha | m4dcoder: Thanks :-) | 16:22 |
| akuznetsova | NikolayM, ok | 16:22 |
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| akuznetsova | NikolayM, seems like L-3 has started, what are we going to do in this iteration ? | 16:23 |
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| NikolayM | so, they will releasy the final version of YAQL and then fully integrate it to Murano | 16:23 |
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| NikolayM | akuznetsova, need to think | 16:24 |
| NikolayM | and plan | 16:24 |
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| akuznetsova | #action NikolayM provide a plan of what we are going to do in L-3 iteration | 16:24 |
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| NikolayM | #action NikolayM, all: look through the blueprints and think about what do we need in L-3 | 16:25 |
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| akuznetsova | BTW, Renat just said that he will release Mistral l-2 tomorrow or day after tomorrow | 16:26 |
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| NikolayM | akuznetsova, ok | 16:26 |
| NikolayM | we are a bit late with our L-2 release :( | 16:27 |
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| akuznetsova | ^Gal^, gpaz, melisha , m4dcoder any questions? roadblocks ? | 16:28 |
| akuznetsova | maybe you have suggestions of what we need to do in the l-3 | 16:28 |
| gpaz | well its not a block but | 16:29 |
| gpaz | maybe for now we will not use cron pattern for expiration policy | 16:29 |
| gpaz | it will be more easy to push that with only use counter in minutes and pass that to the periodic task | 16:29 |
| melisha | NikolayM, akuznetsova: In order for the UI screens to work properly we need to implement the pagination/sorting in the server | 16:29 |
| gpaz | This will be good enough I think for now | 16:30 |
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| ^Gal^ | Hmm the only thing I can think of UI-wise for l-3 it to have some draft or implementation of a table using AngularJS | 16:30 |
| NikolayM | melisha, ok, need to chat to xylan_kong | 16:30 |
| gpaz | In order to have that for L-3. next pahse I think we can improve that. using only counter is good enough for ower customer requirements | 16:31 |
| gpaz | our* | 16:31 |
| NikolayM | gpaz, why not using the scheduler? | 16:31 |
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| NikolayM | we can calculate the next execution time right in run_expiration_policy method | 16:32 |
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| gpaz | NikolayM, I think it will take more time now change everything since the current implementation almost done | 16:35 |
| gpaz | from the first place using a cron it wasn’t a requirement just something that “nice to have” I think | 16:36 |
| NikolayM | oh, ok | 16:36 |
| NikolayM | btw, you want to see it in current release? | 16:37 |
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| gpaz | NikolayM, Yes | 16:38 |
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| akuznetsova | anything else to discuss ? | 16:41 |
| NikolayM | nothing from my side | 16:41 |
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| gpaz | NikolayM, We can discuss about the expiration-policy offline, also Renal should be here tomorrow so we can close that | 16:42 |
| gpaz | Renat* | 16:42 |
| NikolayM | gpaz, ok, sure | 16:42 |
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| akuznetsova | so, let's wrap the meeting | 16:43 |
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| akuznetsova | bye to all !) | 16:45 |
| melisha | Bye | 16:45 |
| ^Gal^ | bye, have a good one | 16:45 |
| gpaz | Have a safe flight Renat ... | 16:45 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:45 |
| akuznetsova | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 16:45:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| gpaz | Ciao | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-03-16.03.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-03-16.03.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-03-16.03.log.html | 16:46 |
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| sarob | hello | 17:01 |
| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 17:01:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| rluethi | hey | 17:01 |
| sarob | hey | 17:02 |
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| sarob | ive been terribly distracted by work | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | k? | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | anyone else? | 17:03 |
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| sarob | i noticed a few patches for osbash | 17:03 |
| sarob | formally known as | 17:03 |
| sarob | any progress on setting up the new repo? | 17:04 |
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| sarob | matjazp: hey | 17:04 |
| rluethi | I believe pranav is working on it. | 17:04 |
| matjazp | hey all | 17:04 |
| rluethi | i posted some patches for osbash, yes. | 17:04 |
| matjazp | sorry I'm a bit late | 17:04 |
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| sarob | matjazp: hows the certification going? | 17:04 |
| rluethi | minor tweaking, and a workaround for the floating IPs. | 17:05 |
| matjazp | hey sarob, long time no see | 17:05 |
| sarob | matjazp: indeed | 17:05 |
| dguitarbite | hello | 17:05 |
| sarob | i can only join for 30 min | 17:05 |
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| sarob | i have a hard stop at 30 after | 17:05 |
| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:05 |
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| sarob | sayalilunkad: hey | 17:05 |
| matjazp | sarob: why haven't we discussed about shifting time sot on ML? | 17:06 |
| matjazp | sot=slot | 17:06 |
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| sarob | matjazp: i believe i popped it out there | 17:06 |
| sarob | matjazp: i may have only mentioned on irc | 17:07 |
| matjazp | sarob: ? you did? I didn't see it | 17:07 |
| sarob | matjazp: back on 01jul | 17:08 |
| sarob | matjazp: i didnt follow up though | 17:08 |
| sarob | matjazp: hows the certification meetings going? | 17:09 |
| matjazp | sarob: now sayali is in CET timezone (you are, right? :), maybe we can find a more suitable time slot for all of us | 17:09 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: I am | 17:10 |
| matjazp | sarob: you have to ask dguitarbite about that | 17:10 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: congrats | 17:10 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: nice... I guess we (CET TZ) kinda steal you guys from +5.5 ;) | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: thanks :) | 17:10 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: first dguitarbite, now you | 17:11 |
| sayalilunkad | haha | 17:11 |
| rluethi | soon, there will nobody be left in india. | 17:11 |
| matjazp | if we extrapolate this trend even further, even sarob will move here ;) | 17:12 |
| sarob | im good with moving the meeting to earlier | 17:12 |
| sarob | matjazp: my wife would love that | 17:12 |
| sarob | matjazp: she spend two years in GER | 17:12 |
| sarob | spent | 17:13 |
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| matjazp | sarob: earlier? when do you wake up man? (I was hoping to postpone it for 2 to 3 hours ;) | 17:14 |
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| sarob | matjazp: im good either way | 17:14 |
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| sarob | whats the status of publishing the upstream materials? | 17:15 |
| matjazp | do we have a "standard" agenda? | 17:15 |
| sarob | the last time i updated it was june | 17:16 |
| sarob | i think its a bit out of date | 17:16 |
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| matjazp | sarob: it is updated a bit, but not some large changes | 17:17 |
| sarob | i have new stuff for upstream | 17:17 |
| sarob | im running my second training of it this thursday | 17:17 |
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| matjazp | sarob: nice. can you push some patches for review? | 17:18 |
| sarob | sure | 17:18 |
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| sarob | ill rewrite my pub slides http://www.slideshare.net/SeanRoberts1/4-hr-upstream-training | 17:19 |
| sarob | in rst | 17:19 |
| matjazp | sarob: now it is much easier to review this stuff since we have draft publishing in the gate | 17:19 |
| sarob | cool | 17:19 |
| matjazp | sarob: hmm... is this a shorter version of the "official" upstream training? | 17:20 |
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| sarob | it is | 17:20 |
| sarob | a few hours | 17:20 |
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| sarob | for user groups | 17:21 |
| matjazp | hmm.. any ideas how can we incorporate this stuff into the longer version? | 17:21 |
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| sarob | my thinking is we have different ones | 17:22 |
| sarob | 2, 4, 18 hr versions | 17:22 |
| sarob | overlap in content | 17:23 |
| sarob | but will need to be tweaked differently | 17:23 |
| matjazp | sure, it makes sense, but how we avoid duplication | 17:23 |
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| sarob | its possible to only change a slide or two between the three | 17:24 |
| sarob | ill have to do some research | 17:24 |
| matjazp | idealy, we would have shorter versions "generated" from a more complete longer version, we could just skip slides | 17:24 |
| sarob | i agree | 17:24 |
| sarob | it would be the best | 17:24 |
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| matjazp | so the shorter versions are hand picked slides from a longer version | 17:25 |
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| matjazp | what do others think of this idea? | 17:25 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: It's what I would do, too. | 17:26 |
| sarob | #action sarob research how to incorporate 2, 4hr versions of upstream training without duplication | 17:27 |
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| sarob | i have to jump out for 15 minutes | 17:27 |
| matjazp | this way we avoid duplication (at the expense of some flexibility, eg. it would not be possible to mix two slides into one) | 17:27 |
| sarob | ill be back | 17:27 |
| dguitarbite | I gtg now. Have a event to attend | 17:27 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: cheers | 17:28 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: :). See ya guys. | 17:28 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: ping the ML on your repo progress | 17:28 |
| matjazp | dguitarbite: bye, see you | 17:28 |
| rluethi | bye | 17:29 |
| rluethi | okay, now what? do we entertain ourselves for 15 min? | 17:29 |
| rluethi | I tried to answer all questions regarding the patches under review. any other questions/comments? | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | for this "hand picking" of the existing slides: we should just make custom code that matches the slide title and include content into new shorter generated slide | 17:30 |
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| sayalilunkad | I gtg too. See you next week! | 17:31 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: sure, it's ok. we did discuss everything | 17:31 |
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| rluethi | I have another logging patch ready once these are merged. | 17:32 |
| matjazp | rluethi: comments in the Gerrit are the best way for this (as it stays woth the patch for future reference) | 17:32 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: which one are you waiting for? | 17:32 |
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| rluethi | well, my next patch depends on "Keep additional logs files". | 17:33 |
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| rluethi | all my patches sort of depend on "Wait for floating IP to turn up", because I can't test without it :-). | 17:34 |
| matjazp | I can merge this patient_ping :))))) workaround, it has 2 +2 :) | 17:34 |
| rluethi | cool. | 17:35 |
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| matjazp | hehe... patient_ping() :) nice naming | 17:38 |
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| rluethi | thx :-). I think the function could be use elsewhere in the test script (there are other test ping). | 17:39 |
| matjazp | if you also +2 the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208193/, it can be also merged , as it will have 2 +2s | 17:39 |
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| rluethi | done | 17:41 |
| matjazp | merged | 17:41 |
| rluethi | thank you. | 17:42 |
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| matjazp | hey, what's with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204626/ ?? it should be merged! | 17:42 |
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| matjazp | Gerrit bug? | 17:43 |
| rluethi | I dunno. | 17:43 |
| rluethi | I gave it another shot. | 17:43 |
| matjazp | lets see what happens :) | 17:44 |
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| matjazp | hmm.. maybe this hard stop at 19:30 for sean and pranav is a good thing? we could have shorter meetings ;) | 17:47 |
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| sarob | maybe so | 17:47 |
| rluethi | :-) | 17:47 |
| rluethi | hah! we're just waiting for #endmeeting | 17:48 |
| matjazp | sarob: we fixed the review queue | 17:48 |
| rluethi | matjazp: it's been merged | 17:48 |
| sarob | okay | 17:48 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: nice.. just a gerrit bug than | 17:48 |
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| matjazp | just one review in the queue | 17:48 |
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| matjazp | hmm.. what about bugs? | 17:49 |
| rluethi | matjazp: which bugs? | 17:49 |
| matjazp | rluethi: do you think we have an empty bug queue? | 17:49 |
| rluethi | matjazp: plenty of things to improve, port to kilo is not done yet, but no showstopper bugs that I know of. | 17:50 |
| matjazp | we need to remove old ones (for old content) | 17:51 |
| matjazp | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides | 17:51 |
| matjazp | #link | 17:51 |
| rluethi | actually, I had a problem with the test script on opensuse. | 17:51 |
| rluethi | no idea why. | 17:51 |
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| rluethi | it never got a dhcp lease. | 17:51 |
| rluethi | same script that worked on every other platform. | 17:51 |
| matjazp | rluethi: where are we with CI and using labs for install guides? | 17:51 |
| rluethi | for CI we pretty much need a KVM backend. | 17:52 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: is it a stable bug? or just a fluke? (race condition?) | 17:52 |
| rluethi | it seemed pretty damn stable to me. | 17:52 |
| rluethi | but only on that opensuse setup I had. | 17:52 |
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| rluethi | never seen it anywhere else. | 17:53 |
| rluethi | I blame pranav. | 17:53 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: botched opensuse install? | 17:53 |
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| rluethi | opensuse (tumbleweed, that is) comes with virtualbox 5.0, maybe that's the reason. | 17:54 |
| rluethi | but that's pure speculation. | 17:54 |
| matjazp | sarob: we can try few meetings with 30 min time slot? and see how it goes? | 17:55 |
| sarob | sounds good to me | 17:55 |
| sarob | sorry my other meeting is running long | 17:55 |
| matjazp | sarob: discuss all "your" stuff first, and if we need more time, we just continue without you | 17:56 |
| sarob | sounds good | 17:56 |
| matjazp | rluethi: what do you think? | 17:56 |
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| rluethi | works for me. | 17:56 |
| matjazp | ok.. so.. we wrap it up for today | 17:57 |
| sarob | roger | 17:57 |
| rluethi | yup | 17:57 |
| sarob | orr matjaz | 17:57 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:57 |
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| matjazp | I'm good | 17:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 17:57:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-03-17.01.html | 17:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-03-17.01.txt | 17:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-03-17.01.log.html | 17:57 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting akanda | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 18:01:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' | 18:01 |
| adam_g | o/ | 18:01 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 18:01 |
| puranamr | o/ | 18:02 |
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| sarob | agenda | 18:02 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda | 18:02 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 18:03 |
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| sarob | there are no follow up actions from previous meeting | 18:03 |
| sarob | so lets move to | 18:03 |
| sarob | #topic critical bugs | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical bugs (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:03 | |
| sarob | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1470673 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Roberts (sarob) | 18:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,In progress] | 18:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1470673 | 18:04 |
| sarob | we stuck with the 2015.2.x numbering | 18:04 |
| adam_g | so there are two unrelated bugs that are blocking the setup.cfg versioning changes from merging | 18:05 |
| sarob | until we could come to a decision on on 7.0.0 or 2.0.0 | 18:05 |
| adam_g | one is an API change in the newer mock | 18:05 |
| sarob | adam_g: true | 18:05 |
| adam_g | addressed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207697/ (squashed with the versioning change) | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | the other is more critical and is in upstream neutron change that changed the way extensions register | 18:06 |
| adam_g | https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480418 | 18:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480418 in akanda "gate-functional-dsvm-akanda failing, q-svc doesnt load dhrouterstatus extension" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Adam Gandelman (gandelman-a) | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480418 in akanda "gate-functional-dsvm-akanda failing, q-svc doesnt load dhrouterstatus extension" [Critical,In progress] | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480418 in akanda "gate-functional-dsvm-akanda failing, q-svc doesnt load dhrouterstatus extension" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480418 | 18:06 |
| adam_g | the latter actualyl blocks version change to akanda-neutron and akanda-appliance | 18:06 |
| adam_g | addressed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208052/ | 18:06 |
| adam_g | needs a +W and we swhould be good | 18:06 |
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| markmcclain | adam_g: I | 18:06 |
| sarob | do i hear a merge! | 18:06 |
| markmcclain | adam_g: I'll review it | 18:07 |
| adam_g | markmcclain, cool. | 18:07 |
| sarob | cool | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | markmcclain, is this a neutron bug? seems like a bad thing to break for out of tree extensions like ourselves | 18:07 |
| markmcclain | at some point in time, we'll need to revisit how we're integrating with quota's | 18:07 |
| markmcclain | authzbase is fork from folsom and there's better ways to do it now | 18:08 |
| adam_g | ah | 18:08 |
| sarob | we have merge | 18:10 |
| sarob | well start | 18:10 |
| sarob | of gate | 18:10 |
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| adam_g | okay | 18:10 |
| adam_g | so that should get pending stuff into master | 18:10 |
| sarob | i believe the rest have merged | 18:10 |
| markmcclain | cool | 18:10 |
| adam_g | after the 2015.2 changes go through what is the plan? | 18:10 |
| sarob | shall we revisit 7 verses 2 | 18:10 |
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| adam_g | sarob, are yo ugoing to tag the b2 and then we make the switch to a semver? | 18:11 |
| sarob | verses 2015.2 | 18:11 |
| sarob | that is my current plan, | 18:11 |
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| adam_g | 7.0.0 is fine by me for alignment /w neutron. | 18:11 |
| sarob | adam_g: does that sound correct? | 18:12 |
| sarob | i have 7 | 18:12 |
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| sarob | do i have another | 18:12 |
| markmcclain | 7 is the current version number | 18:12 |
| sarob | markmcclain: for neutron | 18:13 |
| sarob | markmcclain: i believe you are in favor of 7 version numbering for akanda as well | 18:13 |
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| sarob | as is I | 18:14 |
| sarob | in favor of 7 rather than 2015.2 or 2 | 18:14 |
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| sarob | anyone else? | 18:15 |
| markmcclain | we either need to be 7 or 2 | 18:15 |
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| sarob | markmcclain: do you have a preference for either? | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | sarob, before you tag anything lets look through open reviews and bugs. see if we can get some stuff merged into the less active repos to make sure we dont re-tag HEAD in a repo that hasn't moved. | 18:15 |
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| markmcclain | I'm open what ever everyone else is wants to do | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain | adam_g: good idea | 18:16 |
| sarob | adam_g: sure | 18:16 |
| sarob | horizon is pretty cool | 18:16 |
| sarob | unless you think we should create a dummy patch to move head | 18:16 |
| adam_g | sarob, im sure i can find something that needs to be fixed :) | 18:17 |
| markmcclain | haha | 18:17 |
| sarob | adam_g: right on | 18:17 |
| adam_g | anyway.. | 18:17 |
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| adam_g | 7.0.0 good? | 18:17 |
| sarob | adam_g: 7 is my choice, matching neutron | 18:17 |
| adam_g | fine by me | 18:18 |
| sarob | i think that is a quorum | 18:18 |
| sarob | so i will hold off this week with new ml2 tags | 18:18 |
| davidlenwell | no objections | 18:19 |
| sarob | looking for head to be moved off 2015.2.0b1 tag | 18:19 |
| markmcclain | ml2 tag? milestone tag? | 18:19 |
| sarob | yup | 18:19 |
| sarob | i meant lm2 | 18:20 |
| sarob | funky typing | 18:20 |
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| sarob | liberty milestone 2 | 18:20 |
| sarob | lm2 will be 2015.2.0b2 | 18:20 |
| sarob | lm3 will be 7.0.0b3 matching neutron | 18:20 |
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| sarob | #action sarob lm2 tag 2015.2.0b2 | 18:21 |
| sarob | #action sarob lm3 tag 7.0.0b3 | 18:21 |
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| sarob | other crtiical bug | 18:22 |
| sarob | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1477381 | 18:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,In progress] | 18:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,In progress] | 18:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1477381 in akanda "rug-ctl browse fails with no route to host" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1477381 | 18:22 |
| davidlenwell | first off that is't the right error message | 18:22 |
| davidlenwell | what it is actually complaining about is that no host option was specified | 18:22 |
| davidlenwell | which is actually a failure of importing the config in that context | 18:23 |
| adam_g | the fix @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/204748/ should merge after the other stuff mentioned above flushes through | 18:23 |
| davidlenwell | which adam pushed a fix for last week | 18:23 |
| sarob | looks like it already merged | 18:23 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I'm going up update the title | 18:23 |
| sarob | just the bug didnt get updated | 18:23 |
| adam_g | that one is basically fixed-committed pending the gate unblocking | 18:24 |
| adam_g | NEXT | 18:24 |
| sarob | right | 18:24 |
| sarob | #topic progress liberty milestone 2 | 18:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "progress liberty milestone 2 (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:25 | |
| sarob | #link https://launchpad.net/akanda/+milestone/liberty-2 | 18:25 |
| sarob | looks like we are going to slip | 18:25 |
| sarob | if lm2 is going to tag within a week or so | 18:26 |
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| * adam_g is going through updating bug status | 18:26 | |
| sarob | shall i push all the bp to lm3 minus octavia and vpnaas | 18:26 |
| sarob | adam_g: holding for a minute so you can catch up | 18:27 |
| adam_g | also | 18:27 |
| adam_g | im going to merge Rug Scaling and Rug HA | 18:27 |
| adam_g | oh nvm | 18:27 |
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| markmcclain | yeah anything that didn't make milestone-2 should be bumped | 18:28 |
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| sarob | davidlenwell: hows the driver spec coming | 18:28 |
| davidlenwell | will push today regardless of how I feel about it | 18:29 |
| sarob | davidlenwell: sounds good | 18:29 |
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| sarob | any other reviews of pending specs? | 18:30 |
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| adam_g | i fixed up the bug list for the milestone | 18:31 |
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| sarob | adam_g: thanks! | 18:31 |
| adam_g | there are two bugs that have no assignee | 18:31 |
| adam_g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1473771 | 18:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473771 in akanda "building the appliance instructions are out of date" [High,New] | 18:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473771 in akanda "building the appliance instructions are out of date" [High,New] | 18:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1473771 in akanda "building the appliance instructions are out of date" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1473771 | 18:31 |
| adam_g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1462098 | 18:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] | 18:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] | 18:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462098 | 18:31 |
| adam_g | IMO if we dont have anyone assigned and working on them now we should untarget them | 18:31 |
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| adam_g | unless someone wants to volunteer to work on them now | 18:31 |
| adam_g | the build instructions seems like low hanging fruit | 18:32 |
| markmcclain | adam_g: thanks for updating | 18:32 |
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| markmcclain | adam_g: yeah if they're unassigned makes sense to remove the target unless critcial | 18:32 |
| adam_g | actually looking over the docs it looks like they may have been updated already | 18:32 |
| adam_g | ah cool | 18:33 |
| adam_g | it is fixed already | 18:33 |
| markmcclain | best kind of bugs | 18:33 |
| adam_g | :) | 18:34 |
| sarob | i think i fixed that one right after i logged it | 18:34 |
| markmcclain | we also start using tags a bit more | 18:34 |
| adam_g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1462098 is the only remaining one | 18:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] | 18:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] | 18:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1462098 in akanda "No logging in the appliance" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462098 | 18:35 |
| adam_g | im in favor of untargetting it especially since we dont have a good story around appliance logging atm | 18:35 |
| sarob | sounds good | 18:35 |
| adam_g | we could probably tackle that as part of a larger blueprint around appliance logging | 18:35 |
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| adam_g | (later on) | 18:36 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 18:36 |
| adam_g | ok cool | 18:36 |
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| sarob | any other discussion on lm2 bp? | 18:37 |
| sarob | #action sarob to push unfinished lm2 bp to lm3 | 18:38 |
| sarob | #topic any other business | 18:38 |
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| adam_g | our stable branches are borked atm | 18:38 |
| adam_g | on another gate blocker | 18:38 |
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| adam_g | but it should be fixed by a new release of python-neutronclient | 18:38 |
| adam_g | which mestery_afk said he'd be getting out early this week | 18:39 |
| markmcclain | I'll follow up with him | 18:39 |
| adam_g | once thats out our stable/juno pathces should be good to merge and flush through... and then our open review queue should hopefully start to shrink and show a lot less RED | 18:39 |
| sarob | adam_g: yea! | 18:40 |
| sarob | davidlenwell, puranamr, and sarob are running another agile training session this thursday | 18:41 |
| sarob | #link http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/223611752/ | 18:41 |
| sarob | we have slightly modified our plan from last time | 18:42 |
| sarob | so the three of us should spend a some time this week reviewing | 18:42 |
| sarob | i send out an invite | 18:43 |
| puranamr | sarob: sure | 18:43 |
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| sarob | anything else | 18:44 |
| sarob | .. | 18:44 |
| sarob | . | 18:44 |
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| sarob | okey dokey | 18:45 |
| sarob | then i give back 15 minutes to y'all | 18:45 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 18:45:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-03-18.01.html | 18:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-03-18.01.txt | 18:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-03-18.01.log.html | 18:46 |
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| sarob | cheers! | 18:46 |
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| geoffarnold | ping | 19:00 |
| Shamail | hi | 19:00 |
| MeganR | Hi | 19:00 |
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| Shamail | oh... I mean 'pong' | 19:01 |
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| barrett1 | Hi | 19:01 |
| SheenaG | Hi! | 19:02 |
| Shamail | We're going to give it a few more minutes to see if people join | 19:02 |
| Shamail | Hi barrett1 | 19:02 |
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| Shamail | Is IRC + con-call good? | 19:02 |
| Shamail | (ref. email from myself and geoffarnold) | 19:02 |
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| barrett1 | #startmeeting Product Working Group | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 19:03:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is barrett1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
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| Shamail | roll call via IRC? | 19:03 |
| barrett1 | Yes, pls | 19:03 |
| Shamail | o7 | 19:04 |
| SheenaG | o/ | 19:04 |
| barrett1 | o/ | 19:04 |
| DericHorn-HP | Here | 19:04 |
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| MeganR | o/ | 19:04 |
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| Shamail | Is everyone on the dial-in bridge too? | 19:05 |
| SheenaG | No, I don't have the bridge info | 19:05 |
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| Shamail | Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598 | 19:05 |
| barrett1 | #topic Summary of Board Discussion | 19:05 |
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| barrett1 | Shamail: Can you paste a link to the slides? | 19:06 |
| barrett1 | #chair Shamail | 19:06 |
| openstack | Current chairs: Shamail barrett1 | 19:06 |
| MeganR | I will join the bridge in a moment, finishing another meeting | 19:06 |
| Shamail | #link https://my.syncplicity.com/share/tfqzoyoisbd6wdd/Product%20WG%20BoD%20Update%20-%20July%202015%20draft%2015 | 19:07 |
| Shamail | Slides that were presented to the Board of Directors last week | 19:07 |
| barrett1 | Good discussion, Board was looking to understand the details of how we’re engaging with other work groups, and understanding the timeline for actiions | 19:08 |
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| Shamail | The need for the objectives being tackled by our team were validated by the board. We got a new action item as well, Rocky will be working with Monty to show how Gerrit might work for voting on user stories. | 19:08 |
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| geoffarnold | Missed the role call - here! | 19:09 |
| kencjohnston | I did as well. Here! | 19:09 |
| Shamail | We also introduced the new objective for recognition of devs working to close user stories and everyone agreed with the concept (although we didn't share implementation details) | 19:10 |
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| barrett1 | Monty was really engaged in the discussions and provided some thoughts on how the OpenStack infrastructure can support our process/plans. He also plans to write some user stories | 19:10 |
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| stephenwalli | Morning All | 19:11 |
| Shamail | Hi stephenwalli | 19:11 |
| barrett1 | The Board proposed to add a PWG session to the joint TC/Board meeting in Tokyo | 19:11 |
| Shamail | we are using IRC + a bridge | 19:11 |
| Shamail | Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598 | 19:12 |
| stephenwalli | On the bridge … being quiet … thx, Shamail | 19:12 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:13 |
| Shamail | hi Rockyg | 19:13 |
| Shamail | Voice: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 1278598 | 19:13 |
| Shamail | ^ bridge we are using... | 19:13 |
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| barrett1 | Cross project, cross-release focus was also confirmed. | 19:15 |
| barrett1 | We need to bring a more detailed proposal on recognition to the Board for a deeper discussion | 19:15 |
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| barrett1 | Stackalytics is now being maintained by the Foundation and may be an element to support a recoginition program | 19:18 |
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| barrett1 | #topic User Story Repo Update | 19:20 |
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| Shamail | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208260/ | 19:20 |
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| Shamail | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-user-stories | 19:20 |
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| barrett1 | The 1st patch establishing our Repo has been merged | 19:22 |
| barrett1 | The 2nd patch establishing permissions,etc are in the process of being reviewed and hopefully merged | 19:22 |
| barrett1 | Thanks Shamail! | 19:22 |
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| barrett1 | The intention is to have 1 repo for all User Stories, whether they are written by people in this team or others in the community | 19:25 |
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| barrett1 | We need to work with the Telco WG to decide how to avoid duplication, and make sure their user stories get included in this repo some way | 19:26 |
| barrett1 | Need to work out the directory structure of our repo - which hopefully makes it easier to include Telco WG user stories | 19:27 |
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| barrett1 | #action Shamail: review the proposed directory structure with Steve Gordon and find an approach that works to integrate the Telco WG user stories into the repo | 19:30 |
| Arkady_Kanevsky | Should we create setup which genereate docs automatically - doc-publisher-site: docs.openstack.org | 19:30 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | Second question: is on translation that kicks i18n jobs by specifying project - translation-jobs | 19:31 |
| Shamail | Arkady_Kanevsky: good point | 19:32 |
| barrett1 | Developer documentation would be helpful and making the user stories easy for developers to find is a bonus | 19:32 |
| Shamail | We have not specified a translation-jobs under our project today | 19:32 |
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| barrett1 | #action: RockyG configure the Repo so that developer documents are automatically generated | 19:33 |
| barrett1 | Our user stories will be treated like specs | 19:33 |
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| Shamail | #action Arkady_Kanevsky will check on whether i18n is applicable to specs and how to invoke the job | 19:35 |
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| barrett1 | We need to be able to review User Stories next week to stay on track for design summit work | 19:37 |
| barrett1 | Based upon this, we're going to move forward with creating a Google Folder and using that as the location for everyone to post their user stories | 19:38 |
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| barrett1 | #action: Carol to send out the Google Folder link to the ML and include the current template in the folder | 19:39 |
| Shamail | Rockyg and I will update if the repo comes into existence before next week | 19:39 |
| barrett1 | #topic Timeline for Posting Stores | 19:39 |
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| stephenwalli | ‘Fraid I have to drop … I’ll catch up in notes/minutes …. | 19:39 |
| Shamail | #Action Shamail will post instructions on how to submit a patch using the user story template to the repo (once it goes live) | 19:40 |
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| geoffarnold | +1 | 19:40 |
| barrett1 | All user stories, for this cycle, should be placed in Google Folder by the next team meeting. We'll call whatever we have the 1st set of stories | 19:41 |
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| barrett1 | If all of the User Stories are posted by 8/10, then we'd like to have an extended team meeting for review discussion and identify consolidation of user stories | 19:43 |
| Shamail | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XpQ1PjyCqbtTIKUbPESp3AbdjUSuIP7GVjda6Cy0EY8/edit?usp=sharing | 19:44 |
| Shamail | Current User Story Template | 19:44 |
| barrett1 | #action: RockyG to send out Doodle to find times slote for a 2 hr meeting next week | 19:44 |
| barrett1 | We need to decide when we want to have prioritization complete? | 19:46 |
| barrett1 | We would like to have prioritized User Stories, reviewed with the cross-project team before taking to Ops Meet-up | 19:47 |
| barrett1 | timing will be a challenge. :) | 19:47 |
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| barrett1 | It's also viable to review the Prioritized list with the Operators, integrate their feedback, then take to the cross-project team | 19:48 |
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| Shamail | +1 | 19:49 |
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| geoffarnold | IRC or Etherpad? | 19:52 |
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| Shamail | IRC | 19:53 |
| barrett1 | Plan going forward will be to reivew/consolidate and complete 1st pass prioritization ahead of the Ops Meet-up | 19:53 |
| barrett1 | Implication of this is we're going to need 2 working session next week | 19:54 |
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| barrett1 | From there, we want to get time on the 8/18 Cross Project team meeting, invite the Operators at the Mid-cycle meet-up to join, for the purpose of discussing next steps for advancing the top 1 or 2 uses cases. | 19:55 |
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| Shamail | Time check barrett1 | 19:59 |
| barrett1 | Thanks Shamail | 19:59 |
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| Arkady_Kanevsky | need to drop, team | 20:02 |
| Shamail | I'm going to drop off, conflict. Sorry. | 20:02 |
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| barrett1 | #action: RockyG, Carol ask for time 8/18 Cross-Project team meeting to preview a high priority user story and start the dialog aorund translating that from a user story into developer actionable items. | 20:04 |
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| barrett1 | #endmeeting | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:07 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 20:07:53 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:07 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-03-19.03.html | 20:07 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-03-19.03.txt | 20:07 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-03-19.03.log.html | 20:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | Hi Neutron folks! | 21:00 |
| salv-orl_ | aloha | 21:00 |
| carl_baldwin | mestery had to be out today and asked that I run the meeting. | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | o/ | 21:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 21:00 |
| regXboi | moo | 21:00 |
| yushiro | Hi :-) | 21:00 |
| hoangcx | Hi | 21:00 |
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| annp | Hi | 21:00 |
| scheuran | hi | 21:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| yamahata | hi | 21:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 21:00 |
| carl_baldwin | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 21:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carl_baldwin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 21:00 |
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| fitoduarte | . | 21:00 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:01 |
| fitoduarte | hi | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements / Reminders (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| nanguyen | Hi | 21:01 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-2 | 21:01 |
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| kevinbenton | hi | 21:01 |
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| emagana | hello all! | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | There is a reminder about code reviewing on the agenda: | 21:01 |
| xgerman | hi | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | “We require 2 +2 votes before merging code” | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Processes | 21:02 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#code-review | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | … and a general reminder about Neutron policies. | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/doc/source/policies | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Bugs | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:02 | |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172 | 21:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] | 21:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] | 21:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461172 | 21:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller may not be around, anyone else know anything about this bug? | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton | i've seen it happen | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | but other than that, no :) | 21:04 |
| carl_baldwin | I’ll follow up on it. | 21:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #action carl_baldwin will follow up on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172 | 21:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] | 21:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] | 21:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1461172 | 21:05 |
| carl_baldwin | Linuxbridge Gate Parity Bugs; | 21:05 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1312016 | 21:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1312016 in neutron "nova libvirtError: Unable to add bridge brqxxx-xx port tapxxx-xx: Device or resource busy" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 21:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1312016 in neutron "nova libvirtError: Unable to add bridge brqxxx-xx port tapxxx-xx: Device or resource busy" [High,In progress] | 21:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1312016 in neutron "nova libvirtError: Unable to add bridge brqxxx-xx port tapxxx-xx: Device or resource busy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312016 | 21:05 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: You are the current assignee. | 21:06 |
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| carl_baldwin | This one too: | 21:07 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465837 | 21:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1465837 | 21:07 |
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| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: ack - we have a fix for 1412016 - let me fetch the link | 21:08 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/193485 | 21:08 |
| r00tcoder | hello everyone | 21:08 |
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| sc68cal | I think we just need a respin to address a comment related to some new code that merged recentky | 21:09 |
| sc68cal | the new BridgeInterfaceDriver class | 21:09 |
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| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: Thanks. | 21:10 |
| sc68cal | 1465837 seems to be just noise in the logs, it doesn't appear to indicate any actual failures - so we can lower the priority | 21:10 |
| carl_baldwin | Any other Bugs that should be mentioned? | 21:10 |
| regXboi | not a bug (yet), but who is familiar with the experimental sideways grenade? | 21:10 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: I just noticed that the same thing was already discussed. | 21:10 |
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| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: right. we can probably lower it to low | 21:11 |
| sc68cal | from medium | 21:11 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: ack | 21:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: I’m not. Anyone who is maybe could ping you in the neutron room? | 21:12 |
| regXboi | that works | 21:12 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Docs | 21:12 |
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| carl_baldwin | emagana: ping | 21:12 |
| emagana | carl_baldwin: hi there! | 21:13 |
| armax | regXboi: russellb was playing with it a bit | 21:13 |
| emagana | WIP with the networking guide but as far as I know nothing to critical report besides keep asking for reviews | 21:13 |
| emagana | Our wiki shows the most important ones | 21:13 |
| regXboi | armax: ack | 21:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | emagana: Which wiki page? | 21:14 |
| emagana | it seems that Matt is not around, so not sure if he got anything else | 21:14 |
| carl_baldwin | Are they on the meeting page? | 21:14 |
| emagana | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:14 |
| emagana | Yes! | 21:14 |
| carl_baldwin | emagana: Thanks. It does look like they’re all there. | 21:15 |
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| emagana | carl_baldwin: nothing else! | 21:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | Thanks, emagana | 21:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | Now on to the on-demand agenda... | 21:15 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic 3rd party Ci systems, Can they vote -1? | 21:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207198/ | 21:16 |
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| carl_baldwin | Maybe this should be saved for mestery | 21:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Anyone keen to discuss this now? | 21:18 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Liberty-3 BPs and reviews | 21:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty-3 BPs and reviews (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:18 | |
| carl_baldwin | Reminder to reviewers to focus on these reviews. | 21:18 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 | 21:19 |
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| carl_baldwin | Didn’t someone create a dashboard for milestone reviews in gerrit a while back? That might be useful again. | 21:20 |
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| * carl_baldwin finds it a little more difficult to focus on a launchpad milestone to find gerrit reviews. | 21:20 | |
| carl_baldwin | Moving on... | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | i think dougwig had one | 21:21 |
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| sc68cal | I have a procedural question - the vlan aware vms spec | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | but it was basically a huge OR statement | 21:21 |
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| sc68cal | so, we merged the proposal, but I don't think we've seen a reply from anyone on the ML when mestery sent a mail to the ML about the status of the work | 21:21 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: That’s pretty much what I remember about it too. | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: if there is no reply i think i will take over that spec | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | and I think we've been pushing jroll to depend on that work for ironic | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | s/we've/I have/g | 21:22 |
| jroll | o.o | 21:22 |
| jroll | oh, right | 21:22 |
| sc68cal | or is it the vlan transparent one? or are they the same | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | not the same | 21:22 |
| sc68cal | are they both in the same state? I know we have the API extension merged but has any work been done in the reference implementation for it? | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: the use case is for tagging to baremetal when a ToR ML2 driver isn't present, correct? | 21:23 |
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| kevinbenton | sc68cal: vlan transparent is basically a flag | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: that IS the implementation :) | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | sc68cal: vlan transparent just means you can pass tagged frames and they won't be stripped | 21:23 |
| carl_baldwin | Does this have overlap with the next topic? (Ironic Provider Networks) | 21:23 |
| jroll | kevinbenton: there's a number of use cases for baremetal using vlan tagging | 21:23 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: yes | 21:23 |
| * carl_baldwin had a hunch | 21:24 | |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Ironic provider networks | 21:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152703/ | 21:24 |
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| kevinbenton | let me provide my quick tldr of this | 21:25 |
| jroll | so, we talked about this last week. mestery_afk was going to investigate if vlan aware vms "just" solves this | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | there are environments where ports need to be told what to tag | 21:25 |
| kevinbenton | either because there is no tor driver so it can't untag onto the correct vlan via the work Sukhdev et al have been working on | 21:25 |
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| kevinbenton | or because it just needs to access multiple networks | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | via one physical port | 21:26 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: is that right? | 21:26 |
| jroll | kevinbenton: there's also ToR drivers that require the instance to tag packets, but yes close enough | 21:27 |
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| kevinbenton | jroll: ok | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | vlan-aware-vms should solve | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | this | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | it lets us define a trunk port | 21:27 |
| jroll | that's what I'm hearing, I'm also hearing nobody is actually working on it | 21:27 |
| kevinbenton | and say, "network x should be on tag y" | 21:28 |
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| Sukhdev | jroll kevinbenton: for for - if we configured the "native vans" - that is equivalent to access port (i.e. untagged) | 21:28 |
| Sukhdev | s/for/tor | 21:28 |
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| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: correct, but there are cases where the native vlan thing won't work | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: either because they are missing a tor driver | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: or because the tor driver is fussy and demands tags | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: you are correct that nobody appears to be working on it | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: i was waiting until the end of this week to see if the owner would respond | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: if not, i will take over and implement the spec | 21:29 |
| jroll | kevinbenton: got it. | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: because i'm quite familiar with it | 21:30 |
| jroll | looks like nova has punted this to M anyway | 21:30 |
| jroll | so not a huge loss | 21:30 |
| jroll | (time-wise) | 21:30 |
| pcarver | Ericsson has a working implementation of VLAN aware VMs, but I don't have any info to offer on the status of the contribution to Neutron | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | jroll: we might be able to get into L if they see how simple the nova side should be :) | 21:30 |
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| sc68cal | pcarver: sadly that doesn' | 21:30 |
| jroll | kevinbenton: heh, yeah maybe :P | 21:30 |
| sc68cal | pcarver: help us | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | pcarver: right, i think that was based on an old version of the spec though that had regular ports | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | pcarver: instead of a new trunk port thingy | 21:31 |
| sc68cal | pcarver: it would be nice if Ericsson was more active in the community :( | 21:31 |
| JoshNang | kevinbenton: i'm more than happy to try getting an exception for the patch | 21:31 |
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| kevinbenton | JoshNang: awesome. | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | let's follow up on this next week | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | no point in asking for an exception if there is some big issue on the neutron side | 21:32 |
| pcarver | sc68cal: I'll reach out to them and ask what their plans are. We're running their older implementation in production so I have a strong interest in them getting it into trunk. | 21:32 |
| JoshNang | kevinbenton: wfm, though it might be too late for them to accept it. they're aiming to merge the code by next mon for exceptions | 21:32 |
| sc68cal | pcarver: yes, that would be helpful, since that would prevent duplication of effort re kevinbenton | 21:33 |
| JoshNang | kk | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | pcarver: if it's the code i saw before, that won't be accepted as is :) | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | pcarver: because it used a regular neutron port for the trunk port | 21:33 |
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| kevinbenton | which doesn't match the spec | 21:34 |
| pcarver | kevinbenton: I'm not saying it should be, I want the right implementation. But they do know it's a priority for us and they also know that what they delivered to us was a stopgap measure. | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | pcarver: ack | 21:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I hear we’re going to follow-up on this next week. Is someone taking action for this week? | 21:35 |
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| jroll | I think the action item is "wait to see if anyone is working on the vlan aware VMs feature", right? | 21:35 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: Did you have an action in mind? | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | Yes, wait until the end of the week | 21:36 |
| carl_baldwin | ok | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | If no response, I'll start on it right away | 21:36 |
| pcarver | Officially we want someone to respond to Kyle's email on the -dev list. Backchannel, I'll send a direct email to a few folks and see if I can prompt them to followup on list. | 21:36 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ack | 21:36 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Concrete plan to merge back pecan and QoS work | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Concrete plan to merge back pecan and QoS work (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:37 | |
| carl_baldwin | #topic https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+branch:feature/pecan+status:open,n,z | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron+branch:feature/pecan+status:open,n,z (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:37 | |
| kevinbenton | jroll: maybe we can preemptively figure out what it will look like on the Nova side... | 21:37 |
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| kevinbenton | jroll: and submit that code | 21:37 |
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| kevinbenton | jroll: and bug fix it later :) | 21:37 |
| jroll | kevinbenton: heh, I'll poke | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | For pecan, there is still more stuff to be done before it's ready to merge | 21:38 |
| carl_baldwin | kevinbenton: ack | 21:38 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic partial upgrade support | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "partial upgrade support (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:38 | |
| * carl_baldwin thinks this on-demand agenda is getting unwieldy | 21:39 | |
| carl_baldwin | armax: russellb: Your name is on this. | 21:39 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067156.html | 21:39 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: hi | 21:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: hi | 21:41 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that clearly went nowhere | 21:41 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ack | 21:42 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic Flow classifier work | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Flow classifier work (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:42 | |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/flow-classifier | 21:42 |
| carl_baldwin | Nobody in particular is tagged on this topic. | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | armax told me he wanted to do that :) | 21:43 |
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| sc68cal | I've been nosy in that part of neutron, via SFC - but it seems like there hasn't been any cross-collaboration | 21:44 |
| sc68cal | everyone is doing their own thing | 21:44 |
| * kevinbenton is shocked! | 21:45 | |
| * regXboi misquotes: "kevinbenton: here are your winnings, sir" | 21:45 | |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: right.. kind of stinks | 21:45 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: is that so? | 21:46 |
| pcarver | sc68cal: any particular reviews or specs you would want the SFC folks to look at? | 21:46 |
| sc68cal | I just hope I'm not dooming us to that XKCD comic about standards - https://xkcd.com/927/ | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i was invoking you to come to the rescue | 21:46 |
| pcarver | We separated out the flow classifier because it seems obvious that it applies to more than SFC | 21:46 |
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| sc68cal | pcarver: looks like that etherpad has some reviews, we may need to reach out to folks and organize | 21:47 |
| pcarver | but I haven't yet come across prior implementations that we should have used instead | 21:47 |
| sc68cal | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190463/3 | 21:48 |
| pcarver | sc68cal: I'll take a look at that one | 21:49 |
| carl_baldwin | We have a few more things to cover on the agenda… Okay to move on? | 21:49 |
| sc68cal | carl_baldwin: ack | 21:49 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal, pcarver: there are crud/rest update issues with that proposal | 21:50 |
| * carl_baldwin not sure if any of the other topics will solicit any more discussion though. | 21:50 | |
| carl_baldwin | Let me ask: In the last 10 minutes, are there topics on the agenda that we should be sure to hit? | 21:50 |
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| scheuran | carl_baldwin, I would like to bringup the macvtap stuff | 21:51 |
| scheuran | carl_baldwin, last point on the agenda | 21:51 |
| carl_baldwin | #topic macvtap ml2 driver and agent | 21:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "macvtap ml2 driver and agent (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:51 | |
| carl_baldwin | scheuran: The floor is yours. | 21:51 |
| scheuran | it's about adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent to neutron | 21:52 |
| scheuran | opened a rfe for it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1480979 | 21:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1480979 in neutron "Adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent" [Undecided,New] | 21:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480979 in neutron "Adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent" [Undecided,New] | 21:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1480979 in neutron "Adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480979 | 21:52 |
| scheuran | Kyle decided that macvtap agent and ml2 driver should land in the neutron tree | 21:52 |
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| scheuran | After discussion with a few folks, I see 2 options for it | 21:52 |
| scheuran | #1 Copy (duplicate) required agent code like in the past. | 21:52 |
| scheuran | #2 Extract a common base class for macvtap, linuxbridge and sriov-nic (impls are close to each other). Purpose: Sharing base agent code. | 21:52 |
| scheuran | (But start with macvtap only in liberty - Others can follow wit Mitaka) | 21:53 |
| sc68cal | scheuran: you sent a post to the ML about this today, right? | 21:53 |
| scheuran | I wanted to hear your opinions on that - which way might be the best to move forward? | 21:53 |
| scheuran | right | 21:53 |
| sc68cal | scheuran: I've only read about halfway through, maybe we can discuss on the ML | 21:54 |
| scheuran | ovs can not be covered with this base class - as it diverged too much from the rest over time | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. would like to read and discuss on ML as weel | 21:54 |
| scheuran | sc68cal, sure also fine | 21:54 |
| scheuran | any input is welcome to figure out a good direction! | 21:54 |
| sc68cal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/071207.html | 21:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Let’s take it there and maybe follow up next week if a resolution is not found. | 21:55 |
| scheuran | sc68cal, perfekt just was looking for it, too thanks! | 21:55 |
| carl_baldwin | sc68cal: Thanks for the link. | 21:55 |
| carl_baldwin | We have five minutes left. Any other requests for agenda items? | 21:56 |
| sc68cal | scheuran: I will note I have some patches to the LB agent to make it more structured like the OVS agent is | 21:56 |
| regXboi | move to take back the time and go get work done | 21:56 |
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| carl_baldwin | regXboi: +1 | 21:56 |
| carl_baldwin | I’m happy to give back 3 minutes. | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | going once... | 21:57 |
| scheuran | sc68cal, ok, let's discuss via ML or synchup tomorrow directly | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | twice… | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | #endmeeting | 21:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 21:57:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-03-21.00.html | 21:57 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-03-21.00.txt | 21:57 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-03-21.00.log.html | 21:57 |
| carl_baldwin | Thanks! | 21:57 |
| yamamoto | bye | 21:57 |
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