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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 08:01:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 08:01 |
| anteaya | say hello if you are here for the third party meeting | 08:01 |
| lennyb | hello | 08:01 |
| anteaya | hi lennyb | 08:01 |
| anteaya | how is your system today? | 08:01 |
| * lennyb writing | 08:02 | |
| lennyb | we are currently in silent mode, due to changed in sriov that broke us. | 08:02 |
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| anteaya | how are you doing finding a fix? | 08:03 |
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| lennyb | the fix was already merged, so I am verifying that it works and we will comment ( non voting ) again in Nova | 08:03 |
| lennyb | we are in Silent mode in neutron as discussed in Summit | 08:03 |
| anteaya | okay | 08:03 |
| anteaya | and this is in line with what nova devs expect of you? | 08:03 |
| anteaya | you met jogo at summit but he is no longer working full time on openstack | 08:04 |
| anteaya | are there other people in nova you talk to? | 08:04 |
| lennyb | no, I stopped our CI from commenting, once we saw failures, I dont want to 'spam' :) once it is fixed and verified we will be back again | 08:05 |
| anteaya | okay | 08:06 |
| anteaya | good thing you stopped your system from commenting | 08:06 |
| lennyb | you know..... we caused a lot of mess and discussing :) | 08:06 |
| eantyshev | hello | 08:07 |
| anteaya | good idea to avoid the mess this time | 08:07 |
| anteaya | hello eantyshev | 08:07 |
| anteaya | did you make any progress on the looping issue at all? | 08:07 |
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| eantyshev | only that I made a story for it: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000309 | 08:08 |
| anteaya | thank you | 08:08 |
| eantyshev | will continue on it in background | 08:09 |
| anteaya | thanks so much | 08:09 |
| anteaya | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000309 | 08:09 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: perhaps you can find patrickeast and share the link with him | 08:09 |
| anteaya | did you have anything new you wanted to discuss? | 08:09 |
| anteaya | I'm not feeling great | 08:09 |
| anteaya | and am hoping for a short meeting | 08:09 |
| anteaya | unless you have something pressing you would like to talk about | 08:10 |
| lennyb | anteaya: not me. feel well. | 08:10 |
| anteaya | lennyb: thanks | 08:10 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: any thoughts? | 08:10 |
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| eantyshev | anteaya: sure, not me too | 08:10 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 08:10 |
| anteaya | I appreciate you being here | 08:10 |
| anteaya | but I do need to sign off and feel better | 08:11 |
| anteaya | thanks | 08:11 |
| anteaya | and see you next week | 08:11 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 08:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 08:11:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-06-30-08.01.html | 08:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-06-30-08.01.txt | 08:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-06-30-08.01.log.html | 08:11 |
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| Qiming | #start-meeting senlin | 13:00 |
| yanyanhu_ | hello | 13:00 |
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| Qiming | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 13:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:00 |
| Qiming | okay, no dash | 13:00 |
| jruano | hello | 13:00 |
| yanyanhu_ | :) | 13:00 |
| lkarm | o/ | 13:00 |
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| Qiming | good morning/evening | 13:01 |
| haiwei | hi | 13:01 |
| Qiming | please review meeting agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda | 13:01 |
| lixinhui | hi | 13:01 |
| Qiming | if you want to add something, just edit | 13:01 |
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| Qiming | or you can shoot it during open discussion | 13:02 |
| Qiming | #topic test case coverage | 13:02 |
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| Qiming | in last meeting, we called for filing bugs related to test case coverage | 13:03 |
| Qiming | my latest number is 63% coverage, not a bad number | 13:03 |
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| Qiming | we still need to spend quite some time on writing test cases, especially those related to profiles, actions, policies | 13:04 |
| Qiming | https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&fie | 13:04 |
| Qiming | ld.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 13:04 |
| jruano | i will try to make some time this week | 13:04 |
| haiwei | I found some modules like senlin/engine/nodes.py are not well tested | 13:04 |
| Qiming | okay, this link is too long, sorry | 13:04 |
| yanyanhu_ | I will try to start working on scaling and lb policy related test cases after finish related wiki item | 13:05 |
| Qiming | haiwei, feel free to file a bug for that then | 13:05 |
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| haiwei | ok, already filed some | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | we talked about setting milestones/deadlines for those bugs | 13:05 |
| Qiming | however, it is really up to how many resources we can put on it | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | in case you are not familar with the milestones | 13:06 |
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| Qiming | https://launchpad.net/senlin/+milestones | 13:06 |
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| Qiming | we have missed liberty-1, obviously | 13:06 |
| Qiming | it doesn't make good sense to release the packages at this stage | 13:07 |
| Qiming | next milestone would be 2015-07-29 | 13:07 |
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| Qiming | which means we have 90 days or so to work on this, among other things | 13:07 |
| yanyanhu_ | 29 days? | 13:08 |
| Qiming | so ... maybe we should just encourage people to claim bugs and set deadlines themselves | 13:08 |
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| Qiming | oh, no, 30 days | 13:08 |
| lixinhui | sounds terrible | 13:08 |
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| yanyanhu_ | maybe a plan but not deadline | 13:08 |
| Qiming | aha, time is very tight | 13:09 |
| haiwei | I will have a summer vocation from 7/10 though | 13:09 |
| yanyanhu_ | if we focus on test case, I think we might be able to finish it | 13:09 |
| lixinhui | wow | 13:09 |
| Qiming | we will work hard on this, using all resources we have, and see what happens by liberty-2 | 13:09 |
| haiwei | anyway, I will try my best in other days | 13:09 |
| yanyanhu_ | ok, I think at least we should finish test cases for all policies and actions | 13:10 |
| lixinhui | Qiming and yanyan, do you have vacation plan? | 13:10 |
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| yanyanhu_ | I don't have for this summer | 13:10 |
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| lixinhui | okay | 13:10 |
| Qiming | although we have a heavy pressure on this, please don't lower your bar when review, ;) | 13:10 |
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| Qiming | lixinhui, not yet | 13:11 |
| yanyanhu_ | sure :) | 13:11 |
| Qiming | will let the team know if so, :) | 13:11 |
| haiwei | of courese | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | okay, moving on | 13:11 |
| Qiming | #topic documentation | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | we have been working on some docs for developers during the past weeks | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | now we have already covered most aspects of the design | 13:12 |
| haiwei | it's your jobs, thanks | 13:12 |
| jruano | i have been going through the documentation in order to get caught up on the project. what is there is very good | 13:12 |
| Qiming | yeah, my job, :) | 13:12 |
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| haiwei | otukare | 13:12 |
| Qiming | if you have ever checked the output from the python-docs gate, it is pretty cool | 13:13 |
| Qiming | what we still need to do is docs for users (user-guide, getting-started ...) | 13:13 |
| Qiming | and wiki | 13:13 |
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| yanyanhu_ | yes, saw it :) | 13:13 |
| Qiming | will work on this | 13:13 |
| Qiming | it will be my high priority | 13:13 |
| lixinhui | Great! | 13:14 |
| yanyanhu_ | will also work on it in this week | 13:14 |
| Qiming | for some reasons: even a new developer would need to know how to try things out | 13:14 |
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| jruano | yes... magnum has a good getting started guide if you need a template to use | 13:14 |
| haiwei | yes, you don't need to explain to them one by one | 13:14 |
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| Qiming | and for others who just heard of the word "senlin", he/she will check openstack wiki first | 13:14 |
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| Qiming | thanks, I was thinking about that | 13:15 |
| yanyanhu_ | maybe we should provide a quick start guide at first | 13:15 |
| Qiming | I really hope we don't need to write the same thing over and over again, all over different places | 13:15 |
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| haiwei | I think I have a good news, some people from my company has began to know senlin, not by my introduction | 13:15 |
| Qiming | I will check openstack-manuals project, for example, to learn how they structure a guide for users | 13:15 |
| haiwei | that means many people may have already known senlin | 13:16 |
| Qiming | hopefully, we will only need to copy our writings to that project when senlin gets "integrated" | 13:16 |
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| haiwei | so if the docs get ready soon, will be very helpful | 13:16 |
| Qiming | we have to polish the wiki page as well, it will be the "frontpage" for the project | 13:16 |
| jruano | ah, that makes sense qiming | 13:16 |
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| Qiming | have just done something: wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Senlin | 13:17 |
| Qiming | need to add some details there | 13:17 |
| Qiming | any helps on that would be appreciated | 13:18 |
| Qiming | #topic object deletion handling | 13:18 |
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| Qiming | haiwei do you want to talk about it? | 13:18 |
| Qiming | https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/+bug/1469939 | 13:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469939 in senlin "dead lock happens when trying to delete a node" [Undecided,New] | 13:18 |
| haiwei | yes | 13:18 |
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| haiwei | in fact I want to talk about another first https://bugs.launchpad.net/senlin/+bug/1469953 | 13:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469953 in senlin "Node deletion error" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Haiwei Xu (xu-haiwei) | 13:19 |
| yanyanhu_ | I guess another action might hang there and didn't release node lock correctly | 13:20 |
| yanyanhu_ | and thus caused this deadlock | 13:20 |
| haiwei | yes, yanyanhu | 13:20 |
| Qiming | seems to me like the bugs are caused by the same problem? | 13:20 |
| haiwei | not exactly i think | 13:20 |
| haiwei | 1469953 is caused by node deletion when deleting a heat stack will check the heat stack status first | 13:21 |
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| Qiming | it is not a "dead" lock, it's actually about ensuring locks are released when not needed | 13:21 |
| haiwei | see the source http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/senlin/tree/senlin/profiles/os/heat/stack.py#n117 | 13:21 |
| yanyanhu_ | Qiming, yes | 13:21 |
| haiwei | but when senlin sends a DELETE request to heat, heat stack will remain CREATE_COMPLETE for a while before going to DELETE_IN_PROGRESS. so we will get CREATE != DELETE error. | 13:22 |
| haiwei | the solution can be add a sleep(1) before checking the status. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196947/1/senlin/profiles/os/heat/stack.py | 13:22 |
| Qiming | sleep(1) is so .... ugly | 13:22 |
| yanyanhu_ | seems we should provide another status option here | 13:22 |
| haiwei | this bug is not related to lock I think | 13:23 |
| haiwei | yes, Qiming | 13:23 |
| Qiming | need to come up with a better status check | 13:23 |
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| haiwei | we just need to wait for heat a moment | 13:23 |
| yanyanhu_ | I think we should change the implementation of _check_action_complete | 13:23 |
| haiwei | yanyanhu_, that is a good idea | 13:23 |
| Qiming | okay | 13:24 |
| haiwei | I will think about it later | 13:24 |
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| Qiming | let's see what we can do | 13:24 |
| yanyanhu_ | yes :) | 13:24 |
| Qiming | that leads us also to the next topic | 13:25 |
| Qiming | #topic SDK exception handling | 13:25 |
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| haiwei | because _check_action_complete is used by creation, deletion and updating, it should be careful | 13:25 |
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| yanyanhu_ | yes | 13:25 |
| Qiming | when Senlin is talking to other OpenStack service, we do that through OpenStackSDK | 13:25 |
| Qiming | not only we have to cope with resource status carefully, we have to consider all types of exceptions | 13:26 |
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| haiwei | yes, currently we are not handling sdk's exception well i think | 13:26 |
| yanyanhu_ | agree | 13:26 |
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| haiwei | except sdk.exc.HttpException as ex: 57 raise ex | 13:26 |
| Qiming | the sad news is that there is no formal guidelines or even consensus among projects today | 13:27 |
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| haiwei | we just catch HttpException and raise it again | 13:27 |
| yanyanhu_ | yes, I guess this is the only exception we catch from openstacksdk | 13:27 |
| Qiming | speaking of that, please refer to senlinclient code here | 13:27 |
| Qiming | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/python-senlinclient/tree/senlinclient/common/exc.py#n200 | 13:27 |
| haiwei | so what about translating HTTPException to a senlin InternalError | 13:27 |
| yanyanhu_ | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/python-openstacksdk/tree/openstack/exceptions.py | 13:28 |
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| Qiming | when I was writing the client code, I was trying to consider all possibilities | 13:28 |
| yanyanhu_ | exception definition in sdk | 13:28 |
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| Qiming | catch all exception types we can and either kill them inside senlin or return them to users in a meaningful way | 13:29 |
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| Qiming | we can keep an eye on SDK's exception handling | 13:29 |
| yanyanhu_ | yes | 13:29 |
| Qiming | but we still need to be prepared for the "rare" cases where exceptions are not handled by SDK | 13:29 |
| Qiming | so far, I know they have been dealing with 404 very well, ;) | 13:30 |
| haiwei | yanyanhu_, we can only get HttpException from SDK? | 13:30 |
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| yanyanhu_ | also some other exceptions | 13:30 |
| Qiming | the problem is "some other exceptions" | 13:30 |
| yanyanhu_ | but I think this is the most common one we will use | 13:30 |
| Qiming | we don't know their type, format, message | 13:31 |
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| haiwei | they are all here? http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/python-openstacksdk/tree/openstack/exceptions.py | 13:31 |
| Qiming | sometimes, maybe, we can only get an error code, in a strange field ... | 13:31 |
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| yanyanhu_ | yes, so I think we don't have much choice now | 13:31 |
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| briancurtin | Qiming: if you need something more out of that exceptions module, perhaps enter a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstacksdk and we can look into it. i dont think we've done much with those exceptions | 13:32 |
| Qiming | I did encountered cases where Heat errors were not caught by SDK, but I cannot recall the details | 13:32 |
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| Qiming | aha, briancurtin, didn't expect you here, ;) | 13:32 |
| yanyanhu_ | :) | 13:32 |
| briancurtin | Qiming: my IRC client highligts on "SDK" | 13:32 |
| Qiming | it would be pretty cool if we can help improve that | 13:32 |
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| Qiming | okay, guys, all questions about SDK go to briancurtin, now and in future | 13:33 |
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| haiwei | maybe we also should enter SDK's meeting to give them some suggestions :) | 13:33 |
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| Qiming | haiwei, that would be cool | 13:34 |
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| briancurtin | our meeting is today, Tuesdays at 1900 UTC | 13:34 |
| Qiming | I really see SDK a foundational service in openstack, it will make a lot things easier | 13:34 |
| haiwei | and we can also help them with some implement | 13:34 |
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| Qiming | 1900+0800-2400=0300 | 13:34 |
| yanyanhu_ | ... | 13:35 |
| yanyanhu_ | midnight in our time zone... | 13:35 |
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| Qiming | briancurtin, do you have a alternate meeting slot? | 13:35 |
| briancurtin | hmm, i will look around the calendar and see if there are other times that might work. which timezone are you? | 13:35 |
| Qiming | GMT +8 | 13:36 |
| haiwei | so file a bug to SDK maybe a good idea | 13:36 |
| Qiming | haiwei, +1 | 13:36 |
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| Qiming | and help fix it | 13:36 |
| briancurtin | right now the meeting is in the afternoon for all US people, so we can maybe move it | 13:36 |
| Qiming | cool, let us know when there are meetings we can attend, briancurtin | 13:37 |
| yanyanhu_ | thanks, briancurtin :) | 13:37 |
| briancurtin | it might be hard to find a time that works since we are 13 hours apart, but maybe we can figure something out | 13:37 |
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| briancurtin | er, 11 | 13:37 |
| Qiming | okay, talk though code and review then | 13:37 |
| haiwei | I am GMT+9 | 13:37 |
| haiwei | a little easier maybe | 13:38 |
| yanyanhu_ | comment is also a good way I believe | 13:38 |
| Qiming | timezone is really annoying, and you cannot get rid of it | 13:38 |
| Qiming | so ... guys, we work with the sdk team to handle exceptions | 13:39 |
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| Qiming | when we see exceptions from other services, let's talk whether we should move the handling logic to sdk | 13:39 |
| haiwei | first we should understand SDK exception's type, i think, I have no idea of HttpException | 13:39 |
| haiwei | it seems like a common exception | 13:39 |
| Qiming | okay, that's your homework, haiwei, :) | 13:40 |
| haiwei | ok | 13:40 |
| Qiming | and my homework, obviously | 13:40 |
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| Qiming | let's move on | 13:40 |
| Qiming | #topic open discussions | 13:41 |
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| haiwei | Qiming, you mean we should try to make most exceptions outside senlin get handled by SDK? | 13:41 |
| Qiming | haiwei, we will study case by case, and see if it is common exception to be handled by sdk | 13:41 |
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| yanyanhu_ | hi, Qiming, I think maybe we should give a list of items which have highest priority | 13:41 |
| Qiming | list of what? | 13:42 |
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| haiwei | exception type? | 13:42 |
| yanyanhu_ | then we can know what is the focus we are woking on recently | 13:42 |
| yanyanhu_ | nope, all work items of senlin | 13:42 |
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| Qiming | first things first, test cases | 13:43 |
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| haiwei | currently test case and exception handle i think | 13:43 |
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| haiwei | and also some bugs | 13:43 |
| Qiming | that will help us find bugs | 13:43 |
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| Qiming | after unit test cases, we will have funtional tests | 13:43 |
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| haiwei | and your policy implementation | 13:44 |
| yanyanhu_ | e.g. test cases, doc, new features we need to support | 13:44 |
| yanyanhu_ | e.g. in next 30 days, I think the list will include doc, test cases, wiki | 13:44 |
| yanyanhu_ | yes | 13:44 |
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| Qiming | okay, we can use etherpad for this | 13:44 |
| Qiming | will open one for everyone to input/edit | 13:45 |
| yanyanhu_ | so we can measure whether these items can be done before the deadline | 13:45 |
| haiwei | ok | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | #action Qiming to open a etherpad for work items and schedule | 13:45 |
| yanyanhu_ | cool | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | since we have talked about time zone problems | 13:46 |
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| Qiming | I really feel sorry for people like lkarm, jruano, ... | 13:46 |
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| Qiming | when they are online, we are mostly in dreams | 13:47 |
| Qiming | the good news: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196993/ | 13:47 |
| Qiming | just figured out how to get our IRC chats logged | 13:47 |
| jruano | its 8am my time, so not too bad for me. i can usually stay online later in the night, but yes timezones are problematic | 13:47 |
| Qiming | once the above patch is accepted, we will have IRC log archive | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | so you guys can check if needed | 13:48 |
| jruano | very good news | 13:48 |
| yanyanhu_ | or we can use etherpad to ask and answer questions? | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | yanyanhu_, questions should go to mailinglist I guess | 13:49 |
| haiwei | the senlin mailing is not well used now | 13:49 |
| yanyanhu_ | hmm, right | 13:49 |
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| Qiming | yes, when we have some general questions, we should leverage that indeed | 13:49 |
| Qiming | okay, guys, we still have 10 minutes | 13:50 |
| Qiming | I'd like to share with you another "news" | 13:50 |
| Qiming | we are inviting haiwei to be a core member of senlin project | 13:50 |
| Qiming | yanyanhu_ and I had some discussions on this | 13:51 |
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| Qiming | haiwei has been a very active contributor since he gets involved in this project | 13:51 |
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| haiwei | thanks for trusting me, Qiming | 13:51 |
| Qiming | he has gained enough knowledge to help the project moving forward | 13:52 |
| jruano | congrats haiwei | 13:52 |
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| Qiming | it would mean more responsibility and more time dedication though | 13:52 |
| haiwei | thanks, it's my honor | 13:52 |
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| Qiming | so, haiwei, pitty on you | 13:52 |
| yanyanhu_ | con :) | 13:52 |
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| haiwei | yes, will work even harder :) | 13:52 |
| Qiming | since the team is not big, we are not announcing this in the mailinglist | 13:52 |
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| Qiming | anything else? | 13:54 |
| haiwei | no from me | 13:54 |
| yanyanhu_ | oh, about the topic proposal, so we have submitted it? | 13:54 |
| Qiming | yanyanhu_, still waiting for company review | 13:54 |
| yanyanhu_ | when the vote will start | 13:54 |
| yanyanhu_ | ok | 13:55 |
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| Qiming | need to check out the deadline | 13:55 |
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| Qiming | okay, let's turn to #senlin if you have any questions, comments, suggestions ... | 13:56 |
| Qiming | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 13:56:33 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-06-30-13.00.html | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-06-30-13.00.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-06-30-13.00.log.html | 13:56 |
| regXboi | mestery: morning | 13:56 |
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| mestery | regXboi: You're 3 minutes early :) | 13:57 |
| regXboi | mestery: and this surprises you how? :) | 13:57 |
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| yongshenggong_ | morning | 13:57 |
| absubram | o/ | 13:57 |
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| markmcclain | o/ | 13:59 |
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| ajo | hi! :) | 13:59 |
| fawadkhaliq | hello! | 13:59 |
| jlibosva | hi | 14:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 14:00 |
| rossella_s | hi all! | 14:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| regXboi | mestery: one administrivia - isn't next monday 7/4 observed? | 14:00 |
| mestery | We've got a packed agenda today, I suspect we won't get through all of it. So lets get started. | 14:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 14:00 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 14:00:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| hoangcx | Hi all! | 14:00 |
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| mestery | regXboi:Monday is 7/6 | 14:01 |
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| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 14:01 |
| ihrachyshka_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| mestery | Like I said, it's packed, so lets get the ball rolling! | 14:01 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| mestery | #info Liberty-1 was release last week! | 14:01 |
| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-1 | 14:01 |
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| mestery | Please report bugs using Launchpad if you try out the release tarballs | 14:01 |
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| mestery | #info The QoS coding sprint is currently ongoing in Raanana Israel | 14:02 |
| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-liberty-qos-code-sprint | 14:02 |
| regXboi | mestery: ack - I see that I'm confused - 7/3 is the observed day | 14:02 |
| mestery | regXboi: Yes | 14:02 |
| ajo | :) | 14:02 |
| mestery | Lets keep moving to try and cull the agenda as much as we can today. | 14:02 |
| mestery | #topic QoS Coding Sprint Update | 14:02 |
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| mestery | ajo: Hi there! | 14:02 |
| ajo | hi :) | 14:02 |
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| ajo | We've been working all day, meeting, thanks to all the contributors that were able to come, and join us remotely. | 14:03 |
| mestery | ++ | 14:03 |
| lpeer | hi | 14:03 |
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| ajo | First of all, we submited an amendment to the QoS API spec to make it more consistent | 14:03 |
| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197004/ | 14:03 |
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| ajo | and we have also submited the code & neutron-client counterparts | 14:04 |
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| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/197078 | 14:04 |
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| ajo | and | 14:05 |
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| mestery | ajo: Nice work! | 14:05 |
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| ajo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189655/ | 14:05 |
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| annp | hi | 14:05 |
| ajo | we had a spec about the OvS agent still open, so , we wanted to ask how to proceed | 14:05 |
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| mestery | ajo: Link? I suggest we try and prioritize this to get it approved, it's required for QoS so we could approve it or just use devref, your call | 14:06 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/182349 (ovs agent spec) | 14:06 |
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| ajo | mestery we could move it to devref if that's ok | 14:06 |
| vikram | hi | 14:06 |
| mestery | ajo: ++ | 14:06 |
| ajo | probably it makes sense since it's necessary to have a reference for the API :) | 14:06 |
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| mestery | ajo: ++ | 14:07 |
| ajo | there are a few patches on flight, if anybody has time, here's the link for the topic: | 14:07 |
| ajo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:neutron-qos,n,z | 14:07 |
| mestery | #info QoS OVS agent spec to be moved to devref as part of implementation | 14:07 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:neutron-qos,n,z QoS patches review link | 14:07 |
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| ajo | any review time is appreciated | 14:08 |
| ajo | also, | 14:08 |
| ajo | an important note, is that we're a bit abusing armax callback mechanism | 14:08 |
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| mestery | :) | 14:08 |
| ajo | under his permission, with a long term goal of extending it's API when dealing with resource extensions | 14:08 |
| ajo | he has something in mind and he will do it, while we abuse his current implementation to avoid blocking us :) | 14:08 |
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| ajo | I wasl talking about this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193585/ | 14:09 |
| mestery | ajo: OK, make sure to keep armax in the loop here going forward please | 14:09 |
| ajo | mestery, of course | 14:09 |
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| mestery | Cool | 14:09 |
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| ajo | Anything I'm missing? | 14:10 |
| ihrachyshka_ | and yeah, please fix gate ;) | 14:10 |
| mkolesni | ajo: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:feature/qos,n,z | 14:10 |
| ajo | (asking to the participants) | 14:10 |
| ajo | ihrachyshka_: lol | 14:10 |
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| mestery | :) | 14:10 |
| mestery | Thanks for the update ajo! Now, please take the QoS team out for a team dinner :) | 14:10 |
| vikram | ajo: you have covered everything :) | 14:10 |
| ajo | mestery: I think it's all, I will send some links to pictures in some minutes, but let's not block the meeting anymore | 14:10 |
| mestery | ajo: Thanks, we'll move along then. :) | 14:11 |
| lpeer | mestery: it is being taken care of | 14:11 |
| mestery | lpeer: Excellent! :) | 14:11 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 14:11 |
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| mestery | We have a number of bugs I wanted to highlight this week | 14:11 |
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| mestery | #topic https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465434 | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465434 (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465434 in neutron "DVR issues with supporting multiple subnets per network on DVR routers - PortbindingContext does not have the status." [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 14:11 |
| mestery | This one is why DVR hasn't worked in the gate for weeks now. | 14:11 |
| mestery | Swami is on this, his patch listed there could use reviews | 14:11 |
| mestery | We need to get DVR stable again and get the DVR job running and the multi-node job | 14:12 |
| mestery | yamamoto: If you have time, can you review this one please? | 14:12 |
| mestery | haleyb: Also your review needed here :) | 14:12 |
| yamamoto | sure | 14:12 |
| haleyb | yes, will look | 14:12 |
| mestery | Thanks! | 14:12 |
| mestery | Next up | 14:12 |
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| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1465837 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465837 in neutron "Linux bridge: Dnsmasq is being passed None as an interface" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 14:12 |
| mestery | sc68cal: This one looks to be yours :) | 14:12 |
| sc68cal | yup | 14:12 |
| mestery | How is it coming? I know you were at the mid-cycle last week | 14:13 |
| sc68cal | I've also seen some race conditions in the linux bridge job around network deletion and port binding (I think) | 14:13 |
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| mestery | Cool! I saw an agenda item later in the meeting for that | 14:13 |
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| ihrachyshka_ | mestery, we're eager to get something to digest, if anything, reviews please | 14:13 |
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| sc68cal | We're at the point where we can actually run all the tests, but it does appear that the linux bridge mechanism driver needs some attention | 14:13 |
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| sc68cal | we've got a couple bugs that I plan on opening and filling in details about, based on what I'e seen from experimental runs | 14:14 |
| sc68cal | if anyone is interested in helping please let me know | 14:14 |
| mestery | sc68cal: OK, that sounds fine, when you do, feel free to add a section to the weekly agenda here | 14:14 |
| sc68cal | mestery: well do | 14:14 |
| sc68cal | *will | 14:14 |
| mestery | #info sc68cal to file some bugs around the rough edges of the Linuxbridge ML2 driver | 14:14 |
| mestery | Thanks sc68cal | 14:14 |
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| mestery | Up next | 14:14 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1359523 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1359523 in neutron "Security group rules are erroneously applied to all ports having same ip addresses in different networks" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 14:14 |
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| mestery | Looks like a partial fix for this one merged | 14:15 |
| mestery | A while back | 14:15 |
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| mestery | We discussed this 3 weeks back, and not much has happened since. | 14:15 |
| mestery | I'll reach out to shihanzhang | 14:15 |
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| mestery | #action mestery to reach out to shihanzhang on 1359523 | 14:16 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1335375 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1335375 in neutron "ping still working after security group rule is created, updated, or deleted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to shihanzhang (shihanzhang) | 14:16 |
| mestery | I think the same for this one | 14:16 |
| mestery | #action mestery to reach out to shihanzhang on 1335375 | 14:17 |
| mestery | OK, two more | 14:17 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1461172 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1461172 in neutron "neutron.tests.functional.agent.test_l3_agent.MetadataL3AgentTestCase.test_access_to_metadata_proxy times out intermittently" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Assaf Muller (amuller) | 14:17 |
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| mestery | I assigned this to amuller for further triage, but this one looks like a gate issue currently. | 14:17 |
| mestery | There was a revert amuller and I ninja merged which I think is related to this failure | 14:17 |
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| jlibosva | mestery: no, that was related to new fixture 1.3.0 release :) | 14:18 |
| mestery | jlibosva: :) | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | mestery: ignore me, I thought you;re talking about the bug above :-/ | 14:18 |
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| mestery | jlibosva: Heh, no that was the one! :) | 14:18 |
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| mestery | jlibosva: You were right ;) | 14:19 |
| mestery | OK, last one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1466663 | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1466663 in neutron "radvd exits -1 intermittently in test_ha_router_process_ipv6_subnets_to_existing_port functional test" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sridhar Gaddam (sridhargaddam) | 14:19 |
| haleyb | mestery: i looked at that metadata proxy failure last week with henry and got as far as noticing this: "wsgi starting up on http:///:t/" | 14:19 |
| mestery | haleyb: Ack, thanks for that! | 14:19 |
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| haleyb | host was / and port was :t | 14:19 |
| mestery | Looks like 14666663 has an assignee and is "In Progress" | 14:19 |
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| mestery | haleyb: Weird, thanks for digging into it a bit! | 14:20 |
| SridharG | mestery: I've submitted patch for the issue - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193624/ | 14:20 |
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| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193624/ Patch for 1466663 | 14:20 |
| mestery | Thanks SridharG! | 14:20 |
| mestery | Any other bugs for the team to discuss? | 14:20 |
| mestery | OK, we've got a lot of things to cover, so lets move along | 14:21 |
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| mestery | #topic Understanding releases for networking-foo projects | 14:21 |
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| mestery | The tl;dr here is that these repos should follow semantic versioning similar to the server projects | 14:22 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:semver-releases+owner:%22Kyle+Mestery%22,n,z | 14:22 |
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| mestery | I have patches out to fix networking-foo projects which were not doing semantic versioning | 14:22 |
| mestery | #info Before doing a release of your networking-foo repo, please talk to mestery so we can coordinate laying down a pre-version tag | 14:22 |
| mestery | Also, on the topic of stable branches for networking-foo projects | 14:23 |
| mestery | If you want a stable branch, please review this wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Stable_branch_policy | 14:23 |
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| mestery | And then talk to me and we'll get you one | 14:23 |
| mestery | Stable branches for networking-foo repos are nebulous at the moment | 14:23 |
| dougwig | This only applies to projects that import neutron or implement one of its plugins, right? | 14:23 |
| mestery | I'm working with ttx on this, but for now we'll allow stable branches for these on a request basis | 14:23 |
| fawadkhaliq | mestery: great thanks! | 14:23 |
| mestery | dougwig: Correct | 14:24 |
| mestery | dougwig: Actually, any library under openstack neutron | 14:24 |
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| mestery | Any questions on networking-foo release or stable branch items? | 14:24 |
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| mestery | #action mestery to email openstack-dev about networking-foo versioning and stable info | 14:25 |
| mestery | I suspect many networking-foo reviewers are not here at this meeting :) | 14:25 |
| mestery | OK, lets move along | 14:25 |
| mestery | #topic pecan reviews | 14:26 |
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| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:feature/pecan+topic:bp/wsgi-pecan-switch,n,z | 14:26 |
| mestery | Anyone intersted in reviewing the WSGI switch to pecan, please review those patches | 14:26 |
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| mestery | I know kevinbenton and blogan would appreciate the reviews | 14:26 |
| mestery | We just merged master into feature/pecan yesterday | 14:27 |
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| markmcclain | I've been working through them | 14:27 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Thank you sir :) | 14:27 |
| mestery | The sooner we get reviews, the sooner we can fold this work back into master | 14:28 |
| yongshenggong_ | what drives us to use new branch instead of master directly? | 14:28 |
| mestery | Ideally, we would do that in a few weeks to give it some baking time | 14:28 |
| mestery | yongshenggong_: Because the work was quite invasive and we wanted to stabilize it there first | 14:28 |
| yongshenggong_ | mystery, ok got it | 14:28 |
| mestery | Any other pecan related questions? | 14:29 |
| mestery | #topic Get Me a Network | 14:29 |
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| mestery | Thanks to haleyb for driving this spec | 14:29 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184857/ | 14:29 |
| mestery | I posted a subsequent patch after talking to jaypipes about this. | 14:29 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196803/ | 14:30 |
| mestery | I'd encourage jaypipes and mordred to look at htat patch and haleyb's comments there | 14:30 |
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| mestery | I want to make sure "Get Me a Network" covers what jaypipes and mordred had in mind here | 14:30 |
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| haleyb | as there has been some confusion i would add | 14:30 |
| mestery | haleyb: ++ | 14:30 |
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| mestery | haleyb: I think your last review comments sums it up nicely, if we can agree on that, then I think we can maybe make it clearer by abandoning my patch and proposing one with your language to make it clearer | 14:31 |
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| mestery | But again, I'd like jaypipes and mordred to comment at this point | 14:31 |
| mestery | Any other questions on "Get Me a Network"? | 14:31 |
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| haleyb | i'd be happy with #1, so... | 14:31 |
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| mestery | :) | 14:32 |
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| mestery | Tough crowd this morning, this meeting must be too serious for most people | 14:32 |
| mestery | OK, lets move along | 14:32 |
| mestery | #topic Nova VIF Library | 14:32 |
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| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193668/ | 14:32 |
| mestery | I'd like to highlight this spec in Nova | 14:32 |
| mestery | beagles is working to get an exception for this | 14:32 |
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| mestery | I encourage Neutron folks to review this one | 14:33 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: Your eyes would be helpful here | 14:33 |
| mestery | Among many others | 14:33 |
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| beagles | feel free to ping me if you have any questions on it | 14:33 |
| sc68cal | mestery: yup - took a look and it LGTM | 14:33 |
| mestery | beagles: How good are the changes of it getting an exception for Liberty? | 14:33 |
| beagles | or just comment on the review :) | 14:34 |
| neiljerram | If poss, I'd encourage reviewers not to drown in detail here - just indicate whether or not you support the overall idea, and leave detail to the code review | 14:34 |
| mestery | neiljerram: +1000, agree with that sentiment | 14:34 |
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| beagles | mestery, I've no idea right now. I was going to reach out to john today to make sure I do the right things there | 14:34 |
| mestery | beagles: Thank you! | 14:34 |
| sc68cal | neiljerram: +++ - I read it mostly for content and it looks good - the overall effort seems reasonable | 14:34 |
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| mestery | lol | 14:35 |
| beagles | :) | 14:35 |
| neiljerram | :) | 14:35 |
| mestery | #topic Linux Bridge CI Job | 14:35 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: Did you want to discuss this a bit more here? | 14:35 |
| sc68cal | mestery: sure | 14:36 |
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| sc68cal | I've seen some racey behavior in the failure logs - things like a bridge being deleted while a nova boot request is issued | 14:37 |
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| sc68cal | so I'm going to have to wrap my head around greenlet I guess and figure out why the bridges are being aggressively deleted | 14:37 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Sounds like a fun Friday night :) | 14:38 |
| sc68cal | if anyone has any experience with the linux bridge mech driver, please don't be shy - otherwise I'll break out git blame and start pinging people :) | 14:38 |
| mestery | lol | 14:38 |
| sc68cal | since I've got only a couple days worth of experience with the LB agent | 14:38 |
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| mestery | Thanks for continuing to drive this work sc68cal! | 14:38 |
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| mestery | :) | 14:39 |
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| sc68cal | beagles: I doubt that. I think it's mostly that the LB agent never has been put on a really really fast treadmill | 14:39 |
| sc68cal | like the OVS agent has | 14:39 |
| * beagles nods | 14:39 | |
| mestery | +1 | 14:39 |
| sc68cal | that's it for me, I yield my time | 14:39 |
| mestery | Thanks sc68cal! | 14:39 |
| mestery | #topic Flow Classifier Work | 14:40 |
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| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/flow-classifier | 14:40 |
| mestery | vikram: Did you want to discuss this a bit? | 14:40 |
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| * mestery notes vikram may not be here at the moment but wanted to give him a chance here :) | 14:40 | |
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| mestery | I think we may need to discuss flow classifiers next week | 14:41 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 14:41 |
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| hoangcx | sc68cal: According to the discussion about "Security Group Logging" spec in the previous meeting. Yushiro has already registered NEW Packet logging API with RFW tags as the following link #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468366 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468366 in neutron "RFE - Packet logging API for Neutron" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Yushiro FURUKAWA (y-furukawa-2) | 14:41 |
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| xgerman | reviews are needed for: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139758/ | 14:42 |
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| hoangcx | *RFE | 14:42 |
| mestery | xgerman: +100, flavors /cc dougwig | 14:42 |
| markmcclain | xgerman: cool.. will add it to the queue | 14:42 |
| xgerman | thanks | 14:43 |
| john-davidge | reviews also needed for IPv6 Prefix Delegation #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158697 | 14:43 |
| hoangcx | sc68cal: It needs you take a look and help to discuss | 14:43 |
| sc68cal | hoangcx: looking | 14:43 |
| sc68cal | hoangcx: based on the bug, sounds reasonable | 14:44 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139758/ | 14:44 |
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| hoangcx | sc68cal: Thanks a lot. | 14:44 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158697 | 14:44 |
| sc68cal | hoangcx: the question i have is - where will the logged packets be placed? | 14:44 |
| sc68cal | how will users of the API retrieve the logs, or view? | 14:45 |
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| hoangcx | sc68cal: it will be logged to user log file | 14:45 |
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| sc68cal | hoangcx: what "user log file" ? | 14:45 |
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| hoangcx | sc68cal: I will make more description about this in the lunchpad | 14:46 |
| hoangcx | sc68cal: Do you have any advice for this? | 14:46 |
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| yongshenggong_ | hoangcx: I think it will be implemented in the form iptables -j log action | 14:47 |
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| hoangcx | Yeah. That's right | 14:47 |
| sc68cal | I put a comment in the spec- you need a way to expose this to the user of the API | 14:47 |
| sc68cal | my suggestion would be to use the Object Storage API | 14:48 |
| sc68cal | that's what it's there for | 14:48 |
| sc68cal | could have something like a storage_url - and then they could put a swift URL in | 14:48 |
| hoangcx | sc68cal: Sure. Thank you. I will check it and expose | 14:48 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: even then you've now got compute nodes log shipping via swift... not certain how that will sit with some of the more paranoid security environments | 14:49 |
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| mestery | markmcclain: +100 | 14:49 |
| sc68cal | true - but if we have a storage_url attribute we can have multiple handlers - swift:// or file:// | 14:50 |
| sc68cal | or what hae you | 14:50 |
| sc68cal | *have you | 14:50 |
| mestery | Lets continue this particular painting on the RFE bug :) | 14:51 |
| mestery | OK, thanks folks! | 14:51 |
| neiljerram | carl_baldwin is doing interesting and much appreciated work on L3-only networks (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196812/3). I'd like to thank him for that, and flag this work to anyone else who might be interested in it. (Also, of course, this is mostly being discussed in the L3 subteam, and if you are interested, please go there too!) | 14:51 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196812/3 | 14:51 |
| mestery | neiljerram: Thanks for the link and reminder there! :) | 14:51 |
| pc_m | Anyone tried stacking from scratch with DevStack today using reclone? I'm seeing Horizon failure saying No module i18n. | 14:51 |
| carl_baldwin | neiljerram: thanks | 14:51 |
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| mestery | OK, we'll see you all in #openstack-neutron, the ML, and the internet ;) | 14:51 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 14:51:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-06-30-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-06-30-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-06-30-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
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| mestery | pc_m: Best to move to #openstack-neutron now :) | 14:52 |
| pc_m | mestery: OK | 14:52 |
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| fawadkhaliq | bye! | 14:52 |
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| hichihara | bye | 14:52 |
| yamamoto | bye | 14:52 |
| xgerman | bye | 14:52 |
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| hoangcx | Thanks! Bye | 14:52 |
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| jaypipes | mestery: I will certainly review the second get me a network proposal today. it's meeting day for me (what day isn't?) but I'll try to get to it by afternoon. | 14:53 |
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| mestery | jaypipes: I hear you on both fronts, and thanks! :) | 14:54 |
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| n0ano | #startmeeting nova_scheduler | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 14:59:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:59 |
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| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 15:00 |
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| edleafe | o/ | 15:02 |
| bauzas | \o | 15:02 |
| n0ano | I was thinking it was going to just be me today (easier to come to decisions :-) | 15:02 |
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| n0ano | let's start, hopefully it'll be quick today | 15:03 |
| edleafe | n0ano: sorry, but I'm on a call for another meeting :( | 15:03 |
| PaulMurray | o/ | 15:03 |
| edleafe | so I might be slow in responding | 15:03 |
| n0ano | edleafe, you get all the ARs :-) | 15:03 |
| n0ano | #topic new meeting time | 15:04 |
| edleafe | of course | 15:04 |
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| edleafe | Results: http://i.imgur.com/aPmIwLi.png | 15:04 |
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| n0ano | according to the doodle 1 hour earlier (1400UTC) on Mon. seems to work, any objections? | 15:04 |
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| bauzas | LGTM | 15:04 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: you weren't voting, OK for you ? | 15:05 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, sorry - been out of touch | 15:06 |
| n0ano | PaulMurray, so is the new time OK for you? | 15:06 |
| lxsli | o/ | 15:06 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: np, so the question was, Mondays 1400UTC ok with you ? | 15:06 |
| bauzas | (and lxsli as well) | 15:06 |
| lxsli | works for me | 15:06 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, more or less | 15:06 |
| bauzas | ok, n0ano, I guess you can put an #agreed there :) | 15:07 |
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| n0ano | #agreed new time 1400UTC Mondays | 15:07 |
| n0ano | #action n0ano to update the wiki's and send a mail out to the dev list on this | 15:07 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: you also have to do a commit for the global page | 15:08 |
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| n0ano | bauzas, yeah, there are multiple administrivias I'll have to do, should be OK | 15:09 |
| bauzas | n0ano: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/ | 15:09 |
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| n0ano | I have to do ical's for the new schedule which is new but I'll deal with it. | 15:09 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: if you don't feel comfortable, I can do it | 15:10 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I already made a change for it | 15:10 |
| n0ano | bauzas, I'll ping you if I have a problem but it should be OK | 15:10 |
| bauzas | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Nova_Scheduler_%28ex._Gantt%29_Team_Meeting | 15:10 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: coolness | 15:10 |
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| n0ano | so... | 15:10 |
| n0ano | #topic Liberty spcecs | 15:10 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: saw our recent agreements ? | 15:10 |
| n0ano | according to the tracking page https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking we only have one priorty spec that is still open | 15:11 |
| bauzas | agreed | 15:11 |
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| bauzas | edleafe's one was not needed | 15:11 |
| n0ano | I lied, looks like there are 2 | 15:11 |
| bauzas | hence john's -2 | 15:11 |
| bauzas | n0ano: eh eh | 15:12 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: thanks for introducing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/7/specs/liberty/approved/servicegroup-api-control-plane.rst,cm | 15:12 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I was about to discuss on it for the open discussion | 15:12 |
| bauzas | but I can do it now | 15:12 |
| n0ano | go ahead,no reason to wait | 15:12 |
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| bauzas | since it's claiming for the sched prio | 15:12 |
| bauzas | so, I'll leave a change speak for itself | 15:13 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195559/ | 15:13 |
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| bauzas | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195559/ | 15:13 |
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| bauzas | so, my comment here is that I wanted to see the subteam opinion for it | 15:14 |
| bauzas | my point is | 15:14 |
| bauzas | 1/ I don't like specs using the scheduler prio as a placeholder for getting more room for being merged | 15:14 |
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| n0ano | bauzas, +1 | 15:15 |
| bauzas | 2/ the SG API change is technically modifying something out of the scheduler and can benefit more than the scheduler | 15:15 |
| bauzas | so, while it's definitely something worth being done | 15:15 |
| bauzas | and I'm a huge fan of the spec | 15:15 |
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| bauzas | I just think it's better to explain to johnthetubaguy and the nova community that this is not a 'scheduler' prio spec, but is still considered as something important and deserves an exception | 15:16 |
| edleafe | If it isn't tied to the scheduler efforts, it shouldn't use the scheduler priority, IMO | 15:16 |
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| bauzas | so, given that, could we make a vote ? | 15:16 |
| edleafe | it should stand on its own | 15:16 |
| bauzas | edleafe: that's my point | 15:16 |
| edleafe | bauzas: ack | 15:16 |
| n0ano | I think, here, we're in violent agreement, this is a good idea but it is not a scheduler thing | 15:16 |
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| edleafe | bauzas: I'm agreeing with you. | 15:17 |
| bauzas | n0ano: let's do an official vote | 15:17 |
| edleafe | bauzas: probably the first time ever :) | 15:17 |
| bauzas | n0ano: give me the chair rights | 15:17 |
| bauzas | #chair bauzas | 15:17 |
| bauzas | and I'll pass to the vote | 15:17 |
| n0ano | bauzas, if you insist :-) | 15:17 |
| n0ano | #chair bauzas | 15:17 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bauzas n0ano | 15:17 |
| bauzas | #startvote Do you consider that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/ is a 'scheduler' priority spec ? yes or no | 15:18 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Do you consider that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/ is a 'scheduler' priority spec ? Valid vote options are yes, or, no. | 15:18 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 15:18 |
| bauzas | #vote no | 15:18 |
| n0ano | #vote no | 15:18 |
| lxsli | #vote or | 15:18 |
| edleafe | #vote no | 15:18 |
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| PaulMurray | #vote no | 15:18 |
| bauzas | lxsli: lol, you found a bug | 15:19 |
| edleafe | lxsli: smartass :-P | 15:19 |
| bauzas | #endvote | 15:19 |
| openstack | Voted on "Do you consider that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190322/ is a 'scheduler' priority spec ?" Results are | 15:19 |
| openstack | or (1): lxsli | 15:19 |
| openstack | no (4): bauzas, PaulMurray, n0ano, edleafe | 15:19 |
| * n0ano wonders what an `or' vote means | 15:19 | |
| bauzas | okay, I'll remove my -W and provide the result of the vote as a change comment | 15:19 |
| PaulMurray | it counts "or" - ha - I bet we could vote anything | 15:19 |
| PaulMurray | didn't know that | 15:19 |
| bauzas | I sould have said yes, no :) | 15:20 |
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| PaulMurray | he would have put :) | 15:20 |
| lxsli | yes, | 15:20 |
| n0ano | `and' I would understand but `or' ... | 15:20 |
| bauzas | anyway, I'm done for that | 15:20 |
| bauzas | so, last point about specs | 15:20 |
| n0ano | bauzas, NP and wew had some fun with it also | 15:21 |
| n0ano | bauzas, go ahead | 15:21 |
| bauzas | I urge you to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/179224/ | 15:21 |
| bauzas | I consider it as a needed behavioural change for making all the scheduler queries consistent | 15:21 |
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| bauzas | and it also fixes a bunch of bugs and misunderstandings | 15:21 |
| n0ano | good one, I'll review this after noon (after I climb out of the hole I created by effectively taking 2 weeks off) | 15:22 |
| bauzas | that's it for me, RequestSpec implem is on its way | 15:23 |
| n0ano | anything else on specs? | 15:23 |
| n0ano | then, moving on | 15:24 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 15:24 |
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| n0ano | anything new? | 15:24 |
| edleafe | I'll re-review it later, too. Then I'm out for the rest of the week | 15:24 |
| xyhuang | hi, any chance we can look at this nit again: | 15:24 |
| xyhuang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193635/ | 15:24 |
| xyhuang | a brief spec here: | 15:25 |
| n0ano | oh yeah, the 4th is coming, I always forget about hoidays | 15:25 |
| xyhuang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195696 | 15:25 |
| lxsli | Nova midcycle soon | 15:25 |
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| n0ano | xyhuang, tnx for mentioning these, we'll try and review them | 15:26 |
| edleafe | xyhuang: I still don't think that this change requires a spec | 15:26 |
| xyhuang | bauzas: i feel that it’s trivial impact on existing works because | 15:26 |
| xyhuang | requested_networks are passed from outside from user, not something inside nova-compute | 15:26 |
| bauzas | edleafe: I still think it deserves a spec because it changes the interface between the scheduler and Nova | 15:26 |
| xyhuang | lxsli: i checked out the resource object work as you mentioned, and i think it is not affected, at least atm. | 15:27 |
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| bauzas | edleafe: and also because it's worth discussing on how we pass this information to the scheduler | 15:27 |
| lxsli | xyhuang: OK I can take a longer look, only glanced last time | 15:27 |
| bauzas | xyhuang: your both changes are on top of my review queue, I should comment them soon | 15:27 |
| xyhuang | lxsli: i definitely agree though if the networks will be tracked in resources but that’d be another story i guess… | 15:28 |
| xyhuang | bauzas: thanks :) glad to know what you think | 15:28 |
| bauzas | xyhuang: tbh, I need a bit of time to see if passing thru filt_properties is a good idea or not | 15:29 |
| bauzas | moving on ? | 15:29 |
| xyhuang | bauzas: i guess fltr_properties is also possible but IMO it's easier to pass in the req_spec | 15:30 |
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| bauzas | xyhuang: lemme comment that out in your spec :) | 15:30 |
| n0ano | lxsli, in re midcycle - I plan to be there, who else is coming? | 15:30 |
| xyhuang | bauzas: thx! | 15:30 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I won't | 15:30 |
| bauzas | :( | 15:30 |
| bauzas | I heard about PaulMurray and lxsli coming | 15:31 |
| bauzas | so, edleafe will wait for his 2 beers :( | 15:31 |
| n0ano | bauzas, bummer, RH is making money, what's their excuse :-) | 15:31 |
| lxsli | yes I'll be there, not sure PaulMurray will | 15:31 |
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| edleafe | I'll be there, and thirsty | 15:31 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: well, that's not because you earn money that you can expense much than what you earn :) | 15:32 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: so, I understand the reasons | 15:32 |
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| bauzas | expense more* of course | 15:32 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, I'm ont coming - I have holiday planned | 15:32 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: and people complain about French holidays... | 15:32 |
| PaulMurray | bauzas, strangely I will be in France | 15:33 |
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| n0ano | PaulMurray, how - ironic :-) | 15:33 |
| bauzas | PaulMurray: so, you'll be acting like locals :) | 15:33 |
| PaulMurray | so it is sort of a french holiday | 15:33 |
| PaulMurray | :) | 15:33 |
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| bauzas | PaulMurray: I suppose you won't go to Grenoble :p | 15:34 |
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| bauzas | anyway, that's off-topic | 15:34 |
| n0ano | seriously, we should think about any topics we want to discuss at the mid-cycle, obviously the oustanding Liberty spcs/bps, but anything else we care about | 15:34 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: I should remotely attend the midcycle tho | 15:35 |
| bauzas | n0ano: providing there would be some connectivity in there | 15:35 |
| bauzas | provided even | 15:35 |
| n0ano | bauzas, that'll help but good luck hearing everyone in the room | 15:35 |
| bauzas | n0ano: I'm not that worried :) | 15:35 |
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| n0ano | so think about the mid-cycle and we can discuss that at the next meeting (on Mon.) | 15:36 |
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| n0ano | so, anything else for today? | 15:37 |
| edleafe | n0ano: I get back very late Sunday night, so I might not be on next Monday | 15:37 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, NP, get some sleep | 15:37 |
| n0ano | I'm hearing crickets | 15:38 |
| edleafe | n0ano: sleep? nah. I'm worrying about plane delays | 15:38 |
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| n0ano | edleafe, why worry, you `never` miss a connection :-) | 15:39 |
| * n0ano like everyone, has some interesting missed connection stories | 15:39 | |
| n0ano | anyway, I think we're done for today | 15:39 |
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| n0ano | tnx everyone, talk to you soon and do those reviews | 15:40 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 15:40:23 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-06-30-14.59.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-06-30-14.59.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2015/nova_scheduler.2015-06-30-14.59.log.html | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: thnaks | 15:40 |
| bauzas | thanks even | 15:40 |
| n0ano | I like thnaks, it has an interesting ring :-) | 15:41 |
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| morganfainberg | ajayaa, amakarov, ayoung, breton, browne, davechen, david8hu, dolphm, dstanek, ericksonsantos, geoffarnold, gyee, henrynash, hogepodge, htruta, jamielennox, joesavak, lbragstad, lhcheng, marekd, morganfainberg, nkinder, raildo, rharwood, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, stevemar, topol, wanghong https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | it's about that time. | 18:00 |
| rodrigods | o/ | 18:00 |
| topol | o/ | 18:00 |
| browne | hi | 18:00 |
| david8hu | \o | 18:00 |
| amakarov | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| ayoung | Present. | 18:01 |
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| raildo | o/ | 18:01 |
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| marekd | o/ | 18:01 |
| samueldmq | olá :) | 18:01 |
| * morganfainberg waits for a few more | 18:01 | |
| samueldmq | o/ | 18:02 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | this doesn't look like a quorum yet | 18:02 |
| roxanaghe_ | hi | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | there we go | 18:02 |
| david8hu | olá | 18:02 |
| shaleh | I believe gyee is in the car at the moment | 18:02 |
| morganfainberg | roxanaghe_ / david8hu: you should throw something at gyee | 18:02 |
| david8hu | Looking for the remote eject button :) | 18:02 |
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| morganfainberg | ok. probably good enough... | 18:02 |
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| jamielennox | o/ | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | #startmeeting keystone | 18:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 18:03:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is morganfainberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | so ... lbragstad you here? | 18:03 |
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| morganfainberg | can come back to tht | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | morganfainberg: yes sir | 18:03 |
| breton | o/ | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | oh bug report then | 18:03 |
| morganfainberg | #topic Keystone Bug Report | 18:03 |
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| morganfainberg | lbragstad: o/ | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/keystone-weekly-bug-report.html | 18:03 |
| dstanek | Here now | 18:03 |
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| lbragstad | most everything on list weeks list looks to be triaged | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | so, that's a plus! | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | I think there are only a couple that haven't been triaged, but I can go through those | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | other than that, bugs looks pretty tame this week | 18:05 |
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| bknudson | is oslo.policy included in the list? | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | great | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: no | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: it can be | 18:05 |
| bknudson | and other oslo libs that we support | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | oslo.policy is an oslo project | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | but it probably should be in our list | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | we're the ones who mostly look at it | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: like oslo.cache | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | I'll take the action item to add it to our bug report | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | so we have it on our radar (for people who use that report) | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | #action lbragstad to add oslo.policy and oslo.cache to keystone bug report | 18:06 |
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| morganfainberg | yay for relatively under control bugs | 18:06 |
| morganfainberg | #topic Making devstack v3 friendly | 18:07 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: o/ | 18:07 |
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| jamielennox | hello | 18:07 |
| jamielennox | oh - right, umm there is a chain of reviews up for devstack that move everything over to v3 CRUD then v3 auth | 18:07 |
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| bknudson | awesome | 18:08 |
| marekd | jamielennox: link please | 18:08 |
| jamielennox | starting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186681/8 | 18:08 |
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| bknudson | it's got -1 | 18:08 |
| jamielennox | damn, first one has a -1 i thought that was like 4 patches in | 18:08 |
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| jamielennox | oh - wait | 18:09 |
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| jamielennox | that's cause the first couple got merged :) | 18:09 |
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| jamielennox | so was starting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186678/4 | 18:09 |
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| samueldmq | jamielennox: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:keystonev3,n,z | 18:10 |
| bknudson | I've got some changes up for using clouds.yaml -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195786/ -- might make this a little easier | 18:10 |
| jamielennox | there is a fix for glance -> swift to use v3 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193422/ | 18:10 |
| jamielennox | and i think when those two things happen we can get devstack to run with v2 disabled | 18:10 |
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| jamielennox | so not a tempest run, but at least get to the point where our v3 only gate job can start telling us things | 18:11 |
| samueldmq | jamielennox: ++ | 18:11 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: building devstack with v3 only apis | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | is a huge setp | 18:11 |
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| morganfainberg | step* | 18:11 |
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| morganfainberg | if we are at least that far - then we're not going to have to fight too hard on the tempest side really | 18:12 |
| Steve_droid | Gonna be typing slowly | 18:12 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: right, i figure we can find and fix real tempest bugs quickly, just hopefully it doesn't uncover too many mistakes in services | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | yeah | 18:13 |
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| david8hu | I thought samueldmq is done with migrating tempest to keystone v3? :) | 18:14 |
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| samueldmq | david8hu: no, I created a devstack gate job with v2 disabled, which is something jamielennox is using :) | 18:14 |
| david8hu | samueldmq, cool. I see. | 18:15 |
| samueldmq | david8hu: and will be used to detect issues with services using v3 once devstack can properly set up resources and tempest can run | 18:15 |
| bknudson | samueldmq: devstack-gate job runs tempest? | 18:15 |
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| samueldmq | bknudson: it will, once devstack can set up its own resources using v3 only | 18:15 |
| samueldmq | bknudson: which is the step jamielennox's right now | 18:15 |
| samueldmq | bknudson: after that step we will be able to check for individual issues on services/clients | 18:16 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: there is an experimental job on devstack, and on tempest from memory for devstack gate to run with v2 disabled | 18:16 |
| samueldmq | jamielennox: correct me if I am wrong :) | 18:16 |
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| samueldmq | yeah, for example http://logs.openstack.org/84/186684/4/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-identity-v3-only-full/ca5f300/ | 18:17 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: so in addiition to clouds.yaml i need to figure out how to fix the accrc files, i had some work done that way but i don't know if i posted it for review | 18:18 |
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| bknudson | accrc? how many files do we need? | 18:18 |
| jamielennox | or know if it would be acceptable just to switch everything over to v3 like that | 18:18 |
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| jamielennox | bknudson: i don't know, at the moment the way accrc files are generated it loops over every project and creates a file for every user with a role in that project | 18:19 |
| bknudson | yikes | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | scary | 18:19 |
| jamielennox | i expect if i suddenly make those files v3 it will break people | 18:19 |
| bknudson | delete those files | 18:20 |
| jamielennox | would love to | 18:20 |
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| jamielennox | i expect for the last patch in that chain where we actually turn over to v3 by default we will break some people anyway | 18:20 |
| jamielennox | may need an announcement | 18:20 |
| jamielennox | i'll figure that out with the devstack folks | 18:20 |
| jamielennox | anyway - i think that's all | 18:21 |
| jamielennox | (not sure how this topic got in the meeting points) | 18:21 |
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| Steve_droid | I wonder how many ppl rely on the accrc file | 18:21 |
| Steve_droid | ++bkudson, delete them | 18:21 |
| marekd | these are openrc files so you source them and use devstack? | 18:22 |
| bknudson | use clouds.yaml instead | 18:22 |
| jamielennox | marekd: not really openrc | 18:22 |
| jamielennox | but when you finish devstack you get like accrc/admin/admin that you can source | 18:22 |
| Steve_droid | Marked yes | 18:22 |
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| morganfainberg | so it sounds like we have some cleanup to do | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | on devstack and some research | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | but the work is moving forward | 18:23 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: maybe we need to make v3 versions of those files to start with | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | as crappy as that is | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | we should bug the devstack folks on that front | 18:24 |
| jamielennox | i guess the issue is no-one really knows who relies on current behaviour | 18:24 |
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| morganfainberg | so lets plan to make v3 versions of those | 18:24 |
| bknudson | does devstack say they have a stable API? | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: no | 18:25 |
| bknudson | it's supposed to be opionated | 18:25 |
| jamielennox | given that we wont actually turn v2 off in devstack for quite a while i was thinking i could just add some domain properties to those files | 18:25 |
| bknudson | opinionated | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: we could just make v3 versions | 18:25 |
| jamielennox | it won't affect us running v3 only gate jobs for quite a while | 18:25 |
| bknudson | so if it's our opinion that you don't use accrc files then don't make them | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | or make v2 versions? | 18:25 |
| Steve_droid | If someone aside from infra relies on devstack they are going to have a bad time | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | if v2 is enabled | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | anyway. jamielennox check w/ dtroyer and ianw and the other devstack folks | 18:25 |
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| morganfainberg | but i'd opt for just making them v3 rc files | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | peronsally | 18:26 |
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| jamielennox | Steve_droid: right - we are already at the point with plugins where i'm not sure if the changes i've made so far are going to end up breaking people | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | if we can get away with it | 18:26 |
| bknudson | use clouds.yaml instead | 18:26 |
| bknudson | the v3 rc file could just set OS_CLOUD | 18:27 |
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| bknudson | it'll be easier to just set OS_CLOUD than source an rc file | 18:27 |
| Steve_droid | ++ | 18:28 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: sure, i'm not too worried about this at the moment the first goal is to get tempest running with v3 only and we worry about devstack users later | 18:28 |
| jamielennox | i'd be happy to consider all the accrc files deprecated | 18:28 |
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| morganfainberg | #action jamielennox to look into depecating accrc files and alternatives | 18:30 |
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| morganfainberg | ok moving on | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | i think there is some external work to do | 18:30 |
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| morganfainberg | but we have some direction | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | #topic Progress on keystoneauth & other repos | 18:30 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: o/ any updates? | 18:30 |
| marekd | morganfainberg: i am still waiting with this to be aproved - it's on a list of projec to be renamed when they schedule gerrit downtime. (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190631/) | 18:31 |
| jamielennox | umm, keystoneauth is moving along, i'm still trying to figure out the split loading from the plugins themselves | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | marekd: ok | 18:31 |
| jamielennox | there is an issue with the gate job for ksc that relies on ksa | 18:31 |
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| marekd | morganfainberg: one more thing - why do we hav enow keystonauth1 ? | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: possibly because of the namespace change? | 18:32 |
| marekd | what shall i put in the code? from keystoneauth or keystoneauth1 ? | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | marekd: because we're supporting side-by-side major versions | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | keystoneauth1 is the first release of keystoneauth | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | next major release will be keystoneauth2 | 18:32 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: yes - i didn't think it would matter because it's supposed to be pulling keystoneauth from git | 18:32 |
| bknudson | does keystoneauth-saml2 also need 1 on the package? | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | jamielennox: except the whole namespace changes now. | 18:32 |
| marekd | when will be next major release? and who will be supposed to use keystoneauth2 ? | 18:32 |
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| jamielennox | but for whatever reason it's getting the pypi version instead and that's still on the old namespace | 18:32 |
| jamielennox | marekd: hopefully never | 18:33 |
| morganfainberg | marekd: no plans for major release #2 | 18:33 |
| morganfainberg | but this is future proofing | 18:33 |
| marekd | morganfainberg: ok. | 18:33 |
| marekd | jamielennox: morganfainberg so for now shall i start importing from keystoneauth1 ? | 18:33 |
| jamielennox | so for example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196479/1 is failing | 18:33 |
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| jamielennox | i got as far as determining why they are failing but not yet determining why it's not pulling from git as expected | 18:34 |
| jamielennox | because i'm sure it used to | 18:34 |
| bknudson | where does that branch get its keystoneauth from/ | 18:34 |
| bknudson | ? | 18:34 |
| bknudson | pypi? | 18:34 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson: git | 18:34 |
| morganfainberg | directly | 18:35 |
| jamielennox | so it's supposed to be git https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/feature/keystoneauth_integration/requirements.txt#L9 | 18:35 |
| bknudson | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-keystoneclient/tree/requirements.txt?h=feature/keystoneauth_integration | 18:35 |
| bknudson | ah | 18:35 |
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| jamielennox | but it appears to be from pypi | 18:35 |
| jamielennox | http://logs.openstack.org/79/196479/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-keystoneclient/b1d809b/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-06-28_23_16_19_032 | 18:35 |
| bknudson | weird | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | something to chase down | 18:36 |
| jamielennox | i would like to start getting those ksc on ksa patches merged as i don't want to consider keystoneauth stable until we know we can offload most of ksc to it | 18:37 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox: sure. | 18:37 |
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| morganfainberg | so we need eyes on those reviews | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | #action please review keystoneauth integration patches | 18:38 |
| morganfainberg | #undo | 18:38 |
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| morganfainberg | #action keystone developers please review keystoneauth integration patches | 18:38 |
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| morganfainberg | #topic Review policy update | 18:39 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson: o/ | 18:39 |
| bknudson | morganfainberg: I've got a couple of reviews out that hope to clarify that some things can be left up to the developer | 18:39 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194906/ -- Document update sample config up to developer | 18:39 |
| morganfainberg | the only reason i don't want the sample config to be *in* the same review as code changes is because we've had massive rebase issues in the past | 18:40 |
| bknudson | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195335/ -- Document use of wip up to developer | 18:40 |
| Steve_droid | I'm still hoping to automate that via a job | 18:40 |
| bknudson | we had one review that had rebase issues. | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | if everyone else would rather make it up to the dev, i'll just abstain and not really care | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: this was at the end of last cycle | 18:40 |
| bknudson | y, so this is just to clarify whether it's up to the developer or not | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | we had a bunch of them. but like i said, i'll happliy defer to the rest of the team here. | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | on both counts | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | i don't feel strongly on WIP either | 18:41 |
| bknudson | if cores don't think it should be up to the developer then I'll change the reviews to say it's not up to the developer instead | 18:41 |
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| morganfainberg | cores- please vote those | 18:41 |
| henrynash | I think updating the sample config should be up to teh developer | 18:41 |
| marekd | bknudson: whatever it is - just let's be verbose and make sure readed knows exactly what is the intention. | 18:41 |
| bknudson | I think if people don't feel strongly one way or the other then let's leave it up to the developer | 18:41 |
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| henrynash | and reviews should -1 if a config file change is being put in with a sample updated (basically…the way it used to be) | 18:42 |
| gyee | I am struggling with the wip decorator | 18:42 |
| gyee | here's an example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187899/9/keystone/tests/unit/test_v3_protection.py | 18:42 |
| gyee | line 994 | 18:42 |
| gyee | the API hasn't been developed yet so the code may not be correct | 18:42 |
| gyee | so its essentially dead code at the moment | 18:43 |
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| gyee | I would rather not have them for now | 18:43 |
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| marekd | i liked wip too | 18:43 |
| henrynash | sometimes wip is useful, other times I think it is more clear to really show the actual point in the test method where a failure is expected | 18:43 |
| gyee | so wip is replacing TODO or FIXME? | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | ok so, i think we should be voting on those patches. if you want it to be more open - +1/+2 them | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | if you want ot be more restrictive -1 them. please let bknudson +A once we've let people vode | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson: feel free to +A at the end of the week provided enough +2s are there and outweigh the -1s | 18:45 |
| * morganfainberg is fine with it going either way | 18:45 | |
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| topol | henrynash +++ | 18:46 |
| dstanek | gyee: wip is different; it's really for replacing a skip | 18:46 |
| gyee | so wip is for tests only? | 18:46 |
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| marekd | gyee: that's my understanding | 18:46 |
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| henrynash | dstanek: …or an explict assertRaises() with a comment as to “here is the bug I am going to fix in the next patch" | 18:47 |
| david8hu | How does wip know the bug is fixed or develper has to going in and remove wip? | 18:47 |
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| samueldmq | david8hu: wip passes if the test fail, and fail if the test passes | 18:47 |
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| dstanek | henrynash: right, if otherwise the test should pass by just removing the wip | 18:47 |
| dstanek | gyee: tests it's a testing tool from the TDD/BDD world | 18:48 |
| dstanek | s/tests/yes,/ | 18:48 |
| gyee | alrighty then | 18:48 |
| * gyee vote for +0 instead of -0 | 18:49 | |
| morganfainberg | ok anyway | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | #action keystone-core vote on the reviews for policy (sample config and WIP) | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | #topic Dynamic Policies - Current Status and Scope for Liberty | 18:49 |
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| samueldmq | hi | 18:49 |
| david8hu | hello | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | htruta: sorry we'll likely need to defer your topic for next week unless this goes quickly | 18:50 |
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| morganfainberg | htruta: my apologies | 18:50 |
| samueldmq | last week I had a couple of conversations with morgan and adam about the scope for L | 18:50 |
| samueldmq | morganfainberg: trying to be quick | 18:50 |
| htruta | morganfainberg: it'd be quick | 18:50 |
| htruta | but we can discuss in openstack-keytone later | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | htruta: depends on samueldmq | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | aye | 18:50 |
| samueldmq | so, basically, we're adding the capability of dynamic fetching of policies in endpoints | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | samueldmq: go | 18:50 |
| david8hu | wip | 18:50 |
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| * samueldmq runs | 18:50 | |
| samueldmq | so, i)policy overrides occur at keystone | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | ii) middleware fetches and cache the policy | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | iii) using the oslo.policy libreary to overlay the local policy file | 18:51 |
| bknudson | auth_token middleware? | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | there are 3 respective specs | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | oslo.policy doing the policy overlay | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196753/ | 18:51 |
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| samueldmq | ksmiddleware doing fetch and cache | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134655/ | 18:51 |
| bknudson | or middleware after auth_token? | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | keystone server associating and delivering policies by url | 18:51 |
| samueldmq | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192422/ | 18:51 |
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| gyee | bknudson, before auth_token as endpoint constraint depends on it | 18:52 |
| samueldmq | bknudson: I think it will be a separate middleware filter, as suggested by morgan, need to visit this point | 18:52 |
| samueldmq | I've updated the oslo and ksmiddleware specs, I will be addressing the keystone one until tomorrow | 18:52 |
| ayoung | Na | 18:52 |
| samueldmq | and then.... | 18:52 |
| samueldmq | sending the FFE request to the ML | 18:52 |
| ayoung | while separate would be cleaner...harder to deploy | 18:52 |
| samueldmq | I think that's all | 18:52 |
| david8hu | samueldmq, for policy by url, we need to consider additional cases that I commented on yesterday and today. | 18:53 |
| ayoung | so, much as it pains me to drive toward it, its probably going to end up in auth_token | 18:53 |
| bknudson | sounds like it might as well just be part of auth_token | 18:53 |
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| samueldmq | david8hu: sure, I 'll take a look at then | 18:53 |
| samueldmq | bknudson: makes sense | 18:53 |
| david8hu | thx | 18:53 |
| samueldmq | so please review and leave comments :) | 18:53 |
| gyee | auth_token is way overloaded already | 18:53 |
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| samueldmq | and for an overview reference | 18:53 |
| samueldmq | see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DynamicPolicies | 18:53 |
| bknudson | auth_token might need some refactoring | 18:54 |
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| samueldmq | morganfainberg: I'd like to have more time, but I think I covered what I wanted .. letting people know about it .. we can move on | 18:54 |
| ayoung | gyee, agreed, but we are cleaning up the architecture. I could see an approach that says there is a generic python middleware that lumps it all together | 18:54 |
| jamielennox | i think this should be it's own middleware | 18:54 |
| ayoung | but the sperate pieces could be deployed stnad alone as well | 18:54 |
| * morganfainberg is a fan of not making auth_token do everything | 18:54 | |
| ayoung | jamielennox, *should* only from a code cleanliness standpoint | 18:54 |
| marekd | morganfainberg: so different middlewares? | 18:54 |
| jamielennox | it's no harder to deploy than any other middleware we've added and there have been a few | 18:54 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: mainly sure | 18:55 |
| ayoung | lets treat auth_token as a facade for multiple middlewares | 18:55 |
| gyee | jamielennox, exactly | 18:55 |
| bknudson | if its its own middleware then it'll need to get the auth config again | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | marekd: thats my choice, but it's just from a separation of concern aspect | 18:55 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: auth config? | 18:55 |
| gyee | it would be paste.ini | 18:55 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: config for how to talk to keystone | 18:55 |
| jamielennox | oh - right | 18:55 |
| * morganfainberg avoids making a bad joke. | 18:55 | |
| bknudson | although we've been talking already about some middleware for that too | 18:55 |
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| marekd | morganfainberg: so one day it woud go for instance auth_token -> kmw-dynamic-policy - ksm-k2k for instance? | 18:56 |
| bknudson | since nobody wants to use global CONF | 18:56 |
| morganfainberg | marekd: possibly | 18:56 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: so we need a way to pass down the plugin that auth_token middleware creates? | 18:56 |
| bknudson | jamielennox: we can't pass it down since the policy middleware needs to be first | 18:56 |
| bknudson | maybe we need another middleware that generates the plugin that's before both of them | 18:57 |
| jamielennox | why does policy need to be first? | 18:57 |
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| bknudson | (01:52:02 PM) gyee: bknudson, before auth_token as endpoint constraint depends on it | 18:57 |
| gyee | jamielennox, because we need it to enforce endpoint constraint | 18:57 |
| morganfainberg | 2m left | 18:57 |
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| jamielennox | why don't we make endpoint constraint enforcement part of the policy middleware then | 18:58 |
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| * jamielennox was arguing for it being seperate from auth_token anyway | 18:58 | |
| ayoung | jamielennox, that is where it belongs | 18:58 |
| morganfainberg | 1m | 18:58 |
| gyee | jamielennox, ayoung, no argument here | 18:58 |
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| samueldmq | ++ | 18:59 |
| gyee | 30 seconds | 18:59 |
| ayoung | jamielennox, I just want to avoid the deployment issues | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 18:59:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-06-30-18.03.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-06-30-18.03.txt | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-06-30-18.03.log.html | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | oops | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | sorry hit enter too soon | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | :( | 18:59 |
| gyee | jump the gun there | 18:59 |
| jamielennox | i was going to join the countdown | 18:59 |
| morganfainberg | to the -keystone channel | 18:59 |
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| fungi | is it at all like the bat cave? | 18:59 |
| fungi | speaking of, it's that same bat time and same bat channel again | 19:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ | 19:00 |
| Clint | o/ | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:00 |
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| crinkle | o/ | 19:00 |
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| jeblair | howdy infra folks | 19:00 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-06-23-19.02.html | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 19:01:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| mrmartin | o/ | 19:01 |
| jeblair | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| jeblair | #info adding asselin to puppet-openstackci-core | 19:01 |
| jhesketh | o/ | 19:01 |
| jeblair | yay! | 19:01 |
| pleia2 | woo :) | 19:01 |
| pabelanger | /clap | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
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| fungi | asselin: thanks for volunteering for this burden | 19:02 |
| jeblair | i'll do that real soon now, and hopefully we'll be able to add some more folks soon too | 19:02 |
| jeblair | i know there's interest | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #topic Specs approval | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| jeblair | #topic Specs approval: RefStack Site Hosting (hogepodge, davidlenwell) | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval: RefStack Site Hosting (hogepodge, davidlenwell) (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| jeblair | #link refstack site hosting spec http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/refstack_dot_org.html | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #info refstack site hosting spec was approved | 19:02 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:03 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 19:03 |
| fungi | i've been more terrible than usual about finding time to review these, so thanks to everyone else who did and picked up my slack | 19:03 |
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| hogepodge | thanks everyone for approving refstack | 19:04 |
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| hogepodge | Happy to help with the deployment. | 19:04 |
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| fungi | hogepodge: i'll hold you to that ;) | 19:04 |
| hogepodge | \o/ | 19:04 |
| jeblair | anything else we should cover on this? | 19:05 |
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| pabelanger | I have 1, but can wait until open discussion | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: we don't have a huge agenda today, go for it | 19:06 |
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| mordred | o/ | 19:06 |
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| pabelanger | So, I created a spec to host the trystack.org since under -infra. The static content of the web site, not the openstack bits: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195098/ | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: oh, i thought you had a refstack thing | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | So far, a team member at RedHat is open to the idea of moving it into trystack.o.o | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | jeblair, no, something new | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | sorry, if I was unclear | 19:07 |
| fungi | sounds like a separate meeting topic | 19:07 |
| jeblair | yeah, let's move on | 19:07 |
| pabelanger | roger | 19:07 |
| jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts (Migration to Zanata) | 19:07 |
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| jeblair | we had some action items from last time | 19:07 |
| jeblair | jeblair set up translate@o.o infra-root alias | 19:08 |
| jeblair | i did that | 19:08 |
| jeblair | pleia2 sign up translate@ openstackid account | 19:08 |
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| pleia2 | the account is created on openstackid | 19:08 |
| jeblair | er, except i think i called it 'zanata' | 19:08 |
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| jeblair | which i think is the better choice | 19:08 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:08 |
| jeblair | and then: | 19:08 |
| jeblair | fungi mrmartin pleia2 investigate "admin interface" for openstack id, get service account group assigned somehow | 19:08 |
| jeblair | anything come of that? | 19:08 |
| pleia2 | zanata was pointed at openstackid-dev though, so a patch merged this morning to have zanata use that, so soon I can set up the zanata account itself | 19:09 |
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| fungi | yeah, that definitely didn't happen on my part | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | not yet | 19:09 |
| fungi | i still need to ask around about that | 19:09 |
| mrmartin | not yet, we need to check it | 19:09 |
| jeblair | #action fungi mrmartin pleia2 investigate "admin interface" for openstack id, get service account group assigned somehow | 19:09 |
| mrmartin | not a big deal, need to allocate time | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | thanks mrmartin, let me know what you need | 19:09 |
| mrmartin | time | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:09 |
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| mrmartin | :) | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | *from me | 19:09 |
| * fungi knows that feeling | 19:09 | |
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| jeblair | See discussion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187867/ need infra input on translation-projects.txt vs. changes to projects.yaml | 19:10 |
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| jeblair | we also have that in the meeting agenda ^ | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | yep, this is a result of a chat between AJaeger and StevenK over (my) night | 19:11 |
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| pleia2 | I summarized it in the review, need input from others | 19:11 |
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| pleia2 | do we want to create a new translation-projects.txt file in project-config, or can we ad a translate: true stanza to projects.yaml to add projects to zanata | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | s/ad/add | 19:11 |
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| jeblair | ah, yeah, i think despite appearances to the contrary, we actually don't want to have tons of files named "projects.yaml" so i like (b) | 19:12 |
| * AJaeger would love not to have an admin go into Zanata and manually set up a new project | 19:12 | |
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| pleia2 | either way, good news is we can now add projects via code review, not through the translations web API like we do with transifex now :) | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger ++ | 19:12 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: yeah, that's definitely the goal | 19:12 |
| fungi | we've added fields to gerrit/projects.yaml for non-gerrit-specific aspects which are still repo-relative | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | s/API/UI | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | phew | 19:12 |
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| fungi | it's mostly for stuff driven from jeepyb, but i don't think it has to be _just_ that | 19:13 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:13 | |
| AJaeger | pleia2: Zanata operation could also be done via puppet | 19:13 |
| fungi | for example, storyboard was consuming that directly for creating project-groups | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | AJaeger: yeah, exciting times :) | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | i'd say we have consensus on b, unless there are objections? | 19:14 |
| pleia2 | wfm | 19:14 |
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| tchaypo | Sgtm | 19:14 |
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| pleia2 | I'll let StevenK know and we'll work on the required changes elsewhere to support it | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | whatever works ;) | 19:14 |
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| AJaeger | thanks, pleia2 | 19:14 |
| jeblair | any other zanata items? | 19:14 |
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| pleia2 | we're handing it off to Daisy this week, and opening testing to the broader community next week | 19:15 |
| pleia2 | so, yay :) | 19:15 |
| pleia2 | that's all | 19:15 |
| jeblair | awesome! | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | #topic trystack web site hosting (pabelanger) | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | okay, late addition! :) | 19:15 |
| pabelanger | ha, ya sorry. Was going to bring it up in open discussion | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | either way, I think there is a good chance to move trystack.org under -infra if people are open to it. Not the openstack bits, just the static contents of the website | 19:16 |
| pabelanger | spec is up | 19:16 |
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| pabelanger | and puppet bits working too | 19:16 |
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| pabelanger | the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195098/ | 19:17 |
| pabelanger | I assume we'd get the people managing the site now, and openstack foundation board to chime in on the move | 19:17 |
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| fungi | that seems like relatively low-hanging fruit we should knock out if all parties are in agreement. thanks! | 19:17 |
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| SpamapS | is it a truly static website? | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | SpamapS, yup | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | is there any reason thats not just in swift then? | 19:18 |
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| fungi | the openstack service bits of that (and the embarrassing facebook groups auth model it's reliant on for the moment) will be a tougher nut to crack | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | SpamapS, https://github.com/trystack/trystack_org_webcontents | 19:18 |
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| pabelanger | the plan would be to move that in to -infra too | 19:18 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think getting the web site hosted is a good first step to make it more of a community effort | 19:19 |
| jeblair | i don't want us to get involved in running the site yet, but after we have infra-cloud up and running for a while, i think we will be in a position to start talking abotu that | 19:19 |
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| jeblair | sorry, by that last, i mean running the actual openstack service | 19:19 |
| mrmartin | we should handle this the same way, as we are doing for openstackid, group, and maybe o.o, typical web projects | 19:20 |
| mrmartin | and ask.o.o | 19:20 |
| jeblair | mrmartin: handle what? | 19:20 |
| fungi | there's still a large unknown around that piece, which is self-service sign-up/single-sign-on for keystone | 19:20 |
| mrmartin | trystack.o.o website | 19:20 |
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| jeblair | mrmartin: as a static site it's actualy a bit simpler and does not need its own server, but yes, in general | 19:21 |
| fungi | mrmartin: well, the trystack website is just static content (docs) | 19:21 |
| mrmartin | yeah, but self-service signup is a solvable part, if we have some spec / doc for that | 19:21 |
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| * SpamapS feels like we got off track? | 19:21 | |
| fungi | yep | 19:21 |
| fungi | two different problems to solve. the easy one is the trystack.org static content website. that's our topic | 19:21 |
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| pabelanger | Yes, right now the site is mostly unmanaged, and it would be fairly painless to move it into the -infra domain to start monitoring / managing it | 19:22 |
| pabelanger | any other changes to login or servers, would need more detailed specs | 19:22 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: i suppose we could put it in swift; we don't really have a generalized 'host a static site in swift' model. even the proposed docs publishing change has problems with that model that are hard to overcome. | 19:23 |
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| jeblair | whereas, apache vhost is fairly common and easy | 19:23 |
| fungi | i'm not opposed to someone solving that challenge, but we do already have virtual machines which can use apache to serve local files | 19:23 |
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| jeblair | if anyone is interested in the problems, see http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/doc-publishing.html | 19:24 |
| jeblair | at least, i hope we captured the issues in there :) | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | mrmartin, this is what it would look like if we imported today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194816/ | 19:24 |
| fungi | our uploading/serving job logs in swift and the os-loganalyze project is a good example of how that gets pretty complicated quickly | 19:24 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: I think thats fine in each narrow case. From a broader view, one has to wonder why it isn't easier to use swift for its exact intended purpose though. | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | sorry SpamapS ^ | 19:25 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: yeah, we provide feedback to swift folks for sure | 19:25 |
| fungi | SpamapS: part of it comes down to how different service providers choose to set up their swift services too | 19:25 |
| SpamapS | fungi: bingo | 19:25 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: our use case is arguably not its exact intended purpose; it gets into splitting hairs too. | 19:26 |
| jeblair | anyway, hope that provides some background :) | 19:26 |
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| jeblair | pabelanger: thanks for kicking that off | 19:27 |
| jeblair | #topic Open discussion | 19:27 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, np | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: totally, I don't want to discuss any details, however I do want to register my strong belief that the general direction I think we should take is to push things toward static hosting being done in swift in general. I understand that is easy to say, and not easy to do. :) | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | Same reason we use Trove right? :) | 19:27 |
| mrmartin | SpamapS: so you suggest to move all static content into swift? | 19:28 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: which has also not been a resounding success | 19:28 |
| asselin | o/ | 19:28 |
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| SpamapS | Anyway, regarding infra-cloud, just a general status update: On the test node I have ironic,keystone,nuetron, and glance working. Nova is installed, but nova-api refuses to respond with anything other than 404's for all requests. | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | mrmartin: absolutely. | 19:28 |
| greghaynes | SpamapS: w00t | 19:28 |
| SpamapS | mrmartin: the fact that there is any friction to that is a sign that investment is needed at any of those friction points. | 19:28 |
| pabelanger | So, I managed to find the issue with our puppet-apply-centos6 gate job. It looks to be an issue within the git client (1.7). Moving to 1.8 fixes the performance issue (30+mins down to 4mins). | 19:29 |
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| pabelanger | For the most part, i did a JJB that upgrades git inline: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196761/ | 19:29 |
| pabelanger | would be curious to get some feedback | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | thanks pabelanger | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | mrmartin: long term it should result in having less resources to manage, and more scalability. | 19:29 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: please understand that this thought has occurred to us | 19:29 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: I'm certain it has. I want to make sure we keep looping back to it. | 19:29 |
| fungi | pabelanger: were you able to figure out whether a glibc change or similar earlier this year on centos 6 is what caused that to suddenly start happening for us? | 19:29 |
| mrmartin | SpamapS: the shortest path is going with static.o.o for trystack but in middleterm I can imagine some efforts to move static content to swift | 19:30 |
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| SpamapS | jeblair: perhaps those with more historical context are more weary than I? ;) | 19:30 |
| pabelanger | fungi, no, I didn't get that far. I wanted to first try a newer client to see if it was affected too. | 19:30 |
| jeblair | SpamapS: i hope you will find some of that in the spec i linked | 19:30 |
| pabelanger | fungi, I was going to look into the 1.8 branch and see if I could find a commit that addressed the problem | 19:30 |
| SpamapS | jeblair: I did, thank you. :) (I've also been trying to withdraw from this point for about 10 minutes now... ;) | 19:31 |
| jeblair | k, let's talk about centos6 git | 19:31 |
| jeblair | istr we tried to use git:// on centos6 jobs for a similar problem in the past... | 19:31 |
| jeblair | does that still help things? did that regress? | 19:31 |
| fungi | SpamapS: put down the swift and back away slowly ;) | 19:31 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, I tried git:// and http:// for URI's there was an improvement but still some delay | 19:33 |
| ttx | Open discussion, I spun up a phabricator instance to play a bit with CustomFields | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | https was the biggest hit to performance | 19:33 |
| ttx | will play tomorrow | 19:33 |
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| pabelanger | jeblair, at the end of the day, upgrading git yielded the same performance as ubuntu hosts | 19:34 |
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| pabelanger | I never could get centos6 down to 5min mark using different URIs | 19:34 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: so we can fix this with newer git on centos, or potentially finding the underlying thing on centos that changed (eg, glibc?) | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | right | 19:35 |
| jeblair | or we can stop using centos6 and move to centos7 | 19:35 |
| jeblair | perhaps | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | yes, that was another thought | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | I was looking this morning what centos6 we had for -infra and puppet | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | i didn't see much | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | i suspect we can upgrade infra fairly easily | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | I was talking to fungi about bare-centos7 image and such | 19:36 |
| jeblair | the question is what test jobs need centos6 | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | I could get a list together for that | 19:36 |
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| fungi | worrisome is that if we upgrade our git servers to centos 7 we may stop supporting shallow clones | 19:37 |
| fungi | is git there as new as on ubuntu trusty? | 19:37 |
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| pabelanger | unsure for me | 19:38 |
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| jeblair | it's not clear that the git authors want to support that, so... | 19:39 |
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| fungi | i'd be okay with declaring that we don't support shallow clones from our git server farm, but not sure who might rebel over that | 19:40 |
| mordred | they can rebel all they want - we can't run centos6 for forever | 19:40 |
| jeblair | we can point them at the git bug | 19:40 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:40 |
| mordred | maybe a friend somewhere will fix it | 19:40 |
| fungi | great point | 19:41 |
| jeblair | so i think the ideal solutions would be: 1) underlying centos6 bug is fixed; 2) centos6 upgrades git; 3) we remove our use of centos6; 4) we self-upgrade git on our centos6 images | 19:41 |
| jeblair | in order of preference ^ | 19:41 |
| jeblair | yeah? | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | That would be best case IMO | 19:42 |
| jeblair | pabelanger: thanks for digging into it | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | np | 19:43 |
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| jeblair | ttx: cool, good luck! | 19:44 |
| ttx | jeblair: I think I'll killfile that OOO from mpstor.com dude | 19:44 |
| jeblair | that hasn't happened yet? | 19:44 |
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| jeblair | ttx: thank you :) | 19:45 |
| ttx | jeblair: I assumed it was, but they keep on coming | 19:45 |
| ttx | btw if someone wants to volunteer to help on -dev I'll take it as a co-admin | 19:45 |
| ttx | hmm, he isn't subscribed (or not subscribed anymore) | 19:46 |
| jeblair | ttx: let us know if we need to dig into logs or something | 19:47 |
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| asselin | Hi, I'd like to remind people of the common-ci virtual sprint next week (July 8-9): Sign up here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-ci-sprint | 19:47 |
| greghaynes | ttx: I think its on -anounce | 19:48 |
| jeblair | hey look new signups! | 19:48 |
| asselin | #link common-ci virtual sprint https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-ci-sprint | 19:48 |
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| greghaynes | (remember we set -anounce to reply to -dev) | 19:48 |
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| ttx | jeblair: ok, I got it. He is subscribed to openstack@lists.o.o and there is a whitelist on -dev for senders from that list | 19:49 |
| greghaynes | ah | 19:49 |
| ttx | two options. Disable the whitelist or remove him from openstack list | 19:49 |
| jeblair | i think removing from openstack makes the most sense | 19:50 |
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| jeblair | (i think adding him to a blacklist is a 3rd option, but also probably not the best) | 19:50 |
| ttx | or I can add him to reject_these_nonmembers but no idea what takes precedence | 19:50 |
| ttx | easier that he resubscribes when back from vacation. | 19:51 |
| ttx | If I could find the guy who invented out of office notices | 19:51 |
| ttx | I'd make him SUFFER | 19:51 |
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| jeblair | ttx: redirect all ooo notices to them | 19:52 |
| tchaypo | you could only make him suffer after he gets back in the office | 19:52 |
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| ttx | ok, for the record he was unsubbed. | 19:52 |
| fungi | http://lists-archives.com/git/843412-setup_temporary_shallow-use-tempfile-module.html looks promising | 19:52 |
| jeblair | oh good there' hope | 19:53 |
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| fungi | yeah, i think they're still deciding how to solve it and less whether to solve it | 19:54 |
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| jeblair | anything else or should we wrap up? | 19:55 |
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| jeblair | thanks all! | 19:56 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 19:56:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-06-30-19.01.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-06-30-19.01.txt | 19:56 |
| ttx | jeblair: thx! | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-06-30-19.01.log.html | 19:56 |
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| ttx | Anyone here for the TC meeting ? | 20:00 |
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| j^2 | o/ | 20:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 20:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:00 |
| russellb | o/ | 20:00 |
| mordred | o/ ish | 20:00 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 20:00 |
| * Rockyg is lurking | 20:00 | |
| jeblair | o/ | 20:00 |
| sarob | o/ | 20:00 |
| ttx | jgriffith, annegentle, lifeless, dtroyer, jaypipes, sdague: around ? | 20:00 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 20:00 |
| jaypipes | ....o/ | 20:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting tc | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 20:01:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tc)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 20:01 |
| ttx | Our agenda today: | 20:01 |
| jeblair | jaypipes looks like he is swimming | 20:01 |
| ttx | or drowning | 20:01 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 20:01 |
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| dtroyer | o/ | 20:01 |
| * zehicle lurking too | 20:01 | |
| edleafe | o/ | 20:01 |
| ttx | #topic Cross-project specs final approval | 20:01 |
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| ttx | We have a number of specs which I think have reached consensus stage and need our final approval to get through | 20:02 |
| ttx | * Enabling Python 3 for Application Integration Tests | 20:02 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177375/ | 20:02 |
| ttx | This one was discussed at the cross-project meeting on June 9. | 20:02 |
| ttx | No objection recorded, I think it's more than time to final-approve it | 20:02 |
| flaper87 | no objections here | 20:02 |
| ttx | any objection, last-minute comment? | 20:03 |
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| jaypipes | nope, lgtm. | 20:03 |
| markmcclain | glad it's finally getting approved | 20:03 |
| ttx | alright, it's in the pipe | 20:03 |
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| ttx | * Add requirements management specification | 20:03 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186635/ | 20:03 |
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| ttx | This one was discussed at the cross-project meeting twice, on June 9 and June 23 | 20:04 |
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| ttx | It's already being worked on as far as I know, no objection on the spec itself | 20:04 |
| flaper87 | no objections here | 20:04 |
| ttx | Looks ready to me. Objections ? | 20:04 |
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| ttx | I'll take silence as consent | 20:05 |
| ttx | and approve | 20:05 |
| ttx | done | 20:05 |
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| ttx | * Update to CORS specification | 20:05 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189924/ | 20:05 |
| jgriffith | +1 | 20:05 |
| ttx | This one is just small changes requested on the original CORS spec, that were pushed as a subsequent change rather than a new patchset | 20:05 |
| lifeless | ttx: o/ | 20:05 |
| lifeless | sorry I'm late | 20:05 |
| ttx | I think we can fast-track it | 20:05 |
| lifeless | EFAMILY | 20:06 |
| flaper87 | ttx: sounds good | 20:06 |
| ttx | already has TC majority anyway | 20:06 |
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| ttx | objections? | 20:06 |
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| ttx | no objections, approved! | 20:07 |
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| ttx | #topic Add release:managed to libraries and previously-incubated projects | 20:07 |
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| ttx | Those are mostly technical adjustments to reflect what the release team directly manages those days, thanks to a lot of fresh blood | 20:07 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/191893 | 20:07 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/192193 | 20:07 |
| ttx | That kind of horizontal changes to the file generates a lot of merge conflicts, so I'd like to get them in ASAP before they generate more of those | 20:08 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 20:08 |
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| jgriffith | they have the votes | 20:08 |
| flaper87 | APPROVE ALL THE THINGS | 20:08 |
| jgriffith | flaper87: +1 | 20:08 |
| ttx | first one is short of one | 20:08 |
| ttx | jgriffith: could you apply rollcall+1 ? | 20:09 |
| jgriffith | bahh | 20:09 |
| jgriffith | ttx: done | 20:09 |
| lifeless | ttx: I did too | 20:09 |
| ttx | I guess an additional question would be, are you fine with adjustments to release:* tags being merged as long as two release team members agree with the change ? | 20:10 |
| ttx | because those will be back | 20:10 |
| russellb | yes that's fine with me | 20:10 |
| * flaper87 is good with that | 20:10 | |
| jeblair | ++ | 20:10 |
| markmcclain | make sense | 20:10 |
| jgriffith | seems fine to me | 20:10 |
| flaper87 | happy to do a quick vote to keep it logged | 20:10 |
| russellb | it's all changeable if something comes up worth discussing | 20:10 |
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| flaper87 | as in, meetbot vote, logged, stamped, we told you so | 20:11 |
| flaper87 | anyway, I'm good with that | 20:11 |
| ttx | yeah, and can revert / fix if weird | 20:11 |
| lifeless | I don't think its a tc thing | 20:12 |
| ttx | I'm working on a revision of the tags, and wil include that tag application rule in it for reference | 20:12 |
| lifeless | we shouldn't need to spend time thinking about stuff owned by other people | 20:12 |
| russellb | sounds good | 20:12 |
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| ttx | #agreed future release:* tag changes can be fasttracked as long as the release team approves them | 20:12 |
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| ttx | Thanks | 20:12 |
| ttx | #topic Be specific about geography in release names | 20:13 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/191974 | 20:13 |
| ttx | That one looks pretty straightforward | 20:13 |
| ttx | any objection to it merging here and now ? | 20:13 |
| mordred | merge it | 20:13 |
| ttx | we are on a ROLL today | 20:13 |
| flaper87 | nope | 20:13 |
| russellb | merge away | 20:13 |
| ttx | #topic RPM distribution packaging of OpenStack | 20:13 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/191587 | 20:14 |
| ttx | So.... This one was proposed as a split from the original "all packaging" team | 20:14 |
| ttx | That said, that team doesn't seem to be really formed yet, and I haven't seen any recent discussion about it | 20:14 |
| ttx | Which probably explains the absence of comment, the merge conflict status, and the ptl:TBD line | 20:14 |
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| ttx | My take is that while we don't require teams to be mature, they should still exist in reality, have a clear scope and leadership, have some meeting point... | 20:14 |
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| ttx | So I'd keep this one as WIP, same as the Debian packaging one | 20:14 |
| jeblair | i think this is in the same situation as the deb version -- if the author comes forward and updates the proposal, i would +1 it | 20:15 |
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| russellb | ttx: +1 | 20:15 |
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| jgriffith | would be good to have those coordinated IMO, maybe even in the same proposal somehow? | 20:15 |
| agentle | agreed ttx | 20:15 |
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| lifeless | jgriffith: I think thats asking too much :) | 20:16 |
| ttx | jgriffith: well they WERE in the same proposal | 20:16 |
| flaper87 | I went through that spec and I agree with russellb and ttx comments | 20:16 |
| ttx | then realized they could probably not work that well together | 20:16 |
| ttx | and would have been really two teams | 20:16 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: well, I was thinking more in terms of the spec | 20:16 |
| russellb | i'm happy with this in concept, i just want some very basic level of a baked proposal | 20:16 |
| jgriffith | ttx: still two projects, but one consistent spec but that's ok | 20:17 |
| russellb | i feel like this is nothing but a incredibly high level idea | 20:17 |
| ttx | OK, I'll move it to backlog until it gets updated / refreshed / progress is made / meetings happened / PTL is chosen / scope is defined | 20:17 |
| russellb | +1 | 20:17 |
| jeblair | ttx: ++ | 20:17 |
| ttx | #topic Add Stackforge Retirement resolution | 20:17 |
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| ttx | Alright! Enough consensus | 20:17 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/192016 | 20:17 |
| ttx | There are a few objections to this one. | 20:17 |
| jeblair | consensus this one too! :) | 20:17 |
| flaper87 | jeblair: lol | 20:17 |
| ttx | My reading is that everyone agrees that we should encourage things that ultimately want to be an openstack project to directly file for the openstack namespace (category (a)) | 20:17 |
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| jeblair | i think the objections are perhaps lack of clarity that could be addressed in a subsequent resolution | 20:18 |
| ttx | And I think that's the main goal of this proposal: encourage "incubating" projects to directly file for big-tent inclusion | 20:18 |
| jeblair | er revision | 20:18 |
| ttx | I call that the "stackforge is not an incubator" effort | 20:18 |
| flaper87 | jeblair: agreed, for instance my last comment | 20:18 |
| jeblair | ttx: indeed. the main goal is not to reduce service, but instead to stop moving projects from org to org | 20:18 |
| ttx | Not everyone agrees that we should discontinue support for the other categories -- especially for projects that don't ever want to become an openstack project but still want to benefit from our infrastructure | 20:18 |
| ttx | For those (categories (b) and (c)), I think it was nice of us to provide resources to educate and encourage random open source projects to use nice tooling | 20:18 |
| ttx | but if it's too costly to support those projects, I support the Infra team decision of dropping them | 20:18 |
| russellb | i think it's totally fair for infra to not stay in the business of free infrastructure for things that don't want to be an openstack project | 20:19 |
| dhellmann | we do have some projects on stackforge that I wouldn't expect to want to become official, like pecan and WSME. I spoke to the pecan lead today and he's ok with moving back to github, but we would lose some of the gating they are doing for us. I would expect the WSME maintainers to move to github, too. | 20:19 |
| jeblair | i'm pleasantly surprised by that; i'd like more feedback there | 20:19 |
| agentle | jeblair: is the bigger concern the org-to-org moves or the upkeep of stackforge | 20:19 |
| flaper87 | russellb: ++ | 20:19 |
| jeblair | agentle: mostly the org-org moves | 20:19 |
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| ttx | jeblair: Ultimately those could be two separate decisions. We could decide to communicate about "stackforge not being an incubator" | 20:19 |
| jeblair | actual drain for supporting projects staying in stackforge is small | 20:19 |
| ttx | And separately we can decide to stop supporting other categories in stackforge (or to stop accepting new projects there) | 20:19 |
| jeblair | ttx: i agree, that's an option | 20:19 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: tbh, I think that's fine. We should find a way to help them gating for us or just deal with the lack ofit | 20:20 |
| dtroyer | I like the idea of having stackforge around for things (like Pecan et al) that we benefit from having similar ci | 20:20 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: right | 20:20 |
| fungi | i have a personal dream of just not having git namespaces at all so this silliness wouldn't be an issue, but that's not been feasible for technical reasons so far, so we're stuck with a cosmetic prefix on repository names to which people ascribe too much meaning | 20:20 |
| dtroyer | maybe at that point there be some higher criteria for adding new projects to it | 20:20 |
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| jeblair | i think we would need to characterize when we think it's reasonable for a project that deos not want to join openstack to use the service | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | fungi: we could rename stackforge to notnotopenstack | 20:21 |
| lifeless | fungi: should we rename the world. To z/nova, z/cinder, | 20:21 |
| lifeless | fungi: and f/pecan, etc. ? | 20:21 |
| fungi | not so keep on renaming 700 repos either, so... meh :/ | 20:21 |
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| fungi | s/keep/keen/ | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | in the case of pecan, we're limiting their ability to test under versions of python that they care about but we don't, so the authors are ok with moving if that's the consensus | 20:21 |
| dhellmann | there are other CI systems out there that folks are pretty happy with, after all | 20:22 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm much more interested in performing the big-tent moves from stackforge -> openstack if we know there's a light at the end of the tunnel :) | 20:22 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: I wonder if these are the only 2 cases but I doubt it | 20:22 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: no, just the 2 I'm familiar enough with | 20:22 |
| jeblair | dhellmann, flaper87: we even have a couple in infra | 20:22 |
| flaper87 | it'd be cool to send an email out mentioning this and see who screams | 20:22 |
| lifeless | so a conservative though would be to limit this to just not-an-incubator | 20:23 |
| flaper87 | jeblair: aha | 20:23 |
| lifeless | and wait a year | 20:23 |
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| flaper87 | jeblair: any reply to my last comment w.r.t requirements and possible instability? | 20:23 |
| flaper87 | am I just being paranoid ? | 20:23 |
| ttx | jeblair: I think it's fair to reject things-that-clearly-want-to-be-openstack when they apply to stackforge and tell them to apply for big tent instead | 20:23 |
| jeblair | flaper87: good question! quick answer: you're being too paranoid! :) | 20:23 |
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| zaneb | lifeless++ | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ++ | 20:23 |
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| flaper87 | jeblair: I can live with that as long as there are people like you that will bring me back to earth | 20:23 |
| flaper87 | :D | 20:24 |
| ttx | jeblair: but that means an application process | 20:24 |
| jeblair | flaper87: i think we can keep those concerns separate -- what projects use global reqs is a separate question from git namespace, etc. | 20:24 |
| lifeless | flaper87: once constraints are live | 20:24 |
| ttx | jeblair: which you would have to handle | 20:24 |
| flaper87 | jeblair: fair enough | 20:24 |
| lifeless | flaper87: the risk there goes WAY down | 20:24 |
| lifeless | flaper87: and we're only waiting on pip 7.1 now | 20:24 |
| jeblair | lifeless: ++ | 20:24 |
| flaper87 | lifeless: roger, that's good to here :) | 20:24 |
| lifeless | flaper87: then there are two patches to merge, and we're live. | 20:24 |
| fungi | for reference, not including -attic repos we have 368 in openstack.* and 313 in stackforge at present | 20:24 |
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| jeblair | ttx: yeah, so i think i have what i need to sythesize a new rev | 20:24 |
| lifeless | [there'll be rough edges for a while of course, and we need to expand the inverse test matrix, but the core will locked down straight up] | 20:25 |
| jeblair | this has been really helpful | 20:25 |
| krotscheck | o/ | 20:25 |
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| ttx | jeblair: ok, that discussion will be back | 20:27 |
| jeblair | yep, look for a new rev by next week | 20:27 |
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| ttx | #topic Be less proscriptive about new team size/maturity | 20:28 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/193550 | 20:28 |
| ttx | Looks like this one already has all the votes it will ever need | 20:28 |
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| ttx | Objection to me merging it now ? | 20:28 |
| flaper87 | nope | 20:28 |
| russellb | yes! | 20:28 |
| russellb | ... no. | 20:28 |
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| russellb | just wanted to argue about something. | 20:28 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 20:29 |
| ttx | I have the right topic for you to do that | 20:29 |
| russellb | oh cool | 20:29 |
| ttx | #topic Fix typo to 'Bare metal service' | 20:29 |
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| russellb | lolol | 20:29 |
| flaper87 | hahahaha | 20:29 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/194230 | 20:29 |
| ttx | This one sounds like it should have been fast-tracked as a typo fix, but it triggered a lively discussion | 20:29 |
| russellb | this one set a new record for amount of discussion to (apparent) triviality of the patch | 20:29 |
| agentle | ttx: I have a legal question in to the Foundation now | 20:29 |
| ttx | agentle: around? | 20:29 |
| agentle | yes | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | I'm inclined to trust annegentle and the docs team on this one | 20:29 |
| ttx | I'm happy to defer to Anne and/or the docs team on that one | 20:30 |
| russellb | dhellmann: +1 | 20:30 |
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| russellb | ttx: +1 | 20:30 |
| agentle | it's non-trivial for all the existing docs | 20:30 |
| ttx | If it's a typo, it's a typo and we can merge it. If it's not a typo, they know | 20:30 |
| jeblair | wow | 20:30 |
| russellb | agentle: yeah, makes sense | 20:30 |
| agentle | it's not a typo | 20:30 |
| agentle | :) | 20:30 |
| ttx | in any case there is no point in us voting or discussing it ? | 20:30 |
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| russellb | there's some inconsistency in the file then | 20:30 |
| agentle | russellb: yeah my hope is to clear that up with set guidelines | 20:30 |
| agentle | ttx: not yet | 20:30 |
| russellb | yeah, appreciate that, you cleared it up in comments | 20:31 |
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| agentle | one point of discussion - generally speaking I do want the TC to be in the business of naming reviews, is that okay generally? Reasons not to? | 20:31 |
| agentle | thinking of it for the service catalog service type discussion and microversions for example | 20:31 |
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| ttx | agentle: if we reuse the name in that file for service catalog, I think you're right | 20:32 |
| jaypipes | agentle: ++ | 20:32 |
| russellb | service catalog sounds like cross project spec kind of thing | 20:32 |
| agentle | I think it was either russellb or sdague who pointed out we'll have more than one service once competing solutions enter | 20:32 |
| agentle | russellb: it is | 20:32 |
| dhellmann | agentle: are you proposing that we register service catalog names in the governance repo? | 20:33 |
| agentle | russellb: and in that spec I want to assert that "TC names" with the idea that projects.yaml is the naming source of truth | 20:33 |
| * dhellmann hasn't been following that discussion | 20:33 | |
| agentle | dhellmann: proposing that projects.yaml is the naming source of truth | 20:33 |
| agentle | yeah, want to hear from you all on that ^^ | 20:33 |
| dtroyer | +1 | 20:33 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 20:33 |
| markmcclain | +1 | 20:34 |
| agentle | The caveat is the legal implications of course, but I'm seeking clarity. | 20:34 |
| ttx | +1 | 20:34 |
| dhellmann | although I think we probably want another field other than this descriptive name for the service catalog names </bikeshed> | 20:34 |
| agentle | queue indigo girls | 20:34 |
| agentle | dhellmann: HEH | 20:34 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I tend to agree that every time we've used the same field for two things, we regretted it | 20:34 |
| jbryce | agentle: i don’t think i saw your legal question yet. what’s the high level? | 20:34 |
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| agentle | jbryce: sure, it's this: does capitalization of the second (or third) word in the service name have any legal implication? | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | and I'm yet to be convinced that new projects shouldn't just be using their name, but I'll hold off on a final opinion until there's a formal spec put together for that | 20:35 |
| agentle | jbryce: we have Block Storage and Object Storage but also Bare metal and Application catalog | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | jbryce: i.e., "Bare metal" vs. "Bare Metal" | 20:35 |
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| jbryce | agentle: just found the ticket. i’m pretty confident the answer is no as long as you don’t pre-pend OpenStack | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | heh | 20:35 |
| agentle | Previously we've avoided "cognitive burden" of knowing whether to capitalize say the V in Key-Value by saying only the first letter should be capitalized. | 20:35 |
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| * dhellmann imagines a world of project names in ALL CAPS for the same reason | 20:36 | |
| agentle | jbryce: so then I'll just have to decide whether Storage set us up for a lifetime of capitalization rules :) | 20:36 |
| agentle | I still don't know whether it's Key-value Store or Key-Value Store even with capitalization rules | 20:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: but then people think it's an acronym. Like OSLO | 20:36 |
| * ttx trolls | 20:37 | |
| agentle | SNORT | 20:37 |
| flaper87 | lol | 20:37 |
| dhellmann | agentle: which project is that? | 20:37 |
| * zaneb is thoroughly sick of people shouting HEAT at him | 20:37 | |
| ttx | dhellmann: MagnetoDB | 20:37 |
| dims | LOL | 20:37 |
| agentle | https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L1129 | 20:37 |
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| agentle | HEAT OSLO NOVA SWIFT LOL | 20:37 |
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| ttx | zaneb: I never knew what it stood for. | 20:37 |
| ttx | ... | 20:37 |
| zaneb | ttx: don't you start | 20:38 |
| jgriffith | agentle: you mean lOl I think | 20:38 |
| agentle | Sadly, my technical editor at work wants Application Catalog and Bare Metal :) | 20:38 |
| ttx | agentle: anything else on that one ? Sounds like you have it under control | 20:38 |
| dhellmann | can we "fix" them all in one patch? | 20:38 |
| agentle | dhellmann: yeah | 20:38 |
| agentle | dhellmann: then go to the docs, sigh :) | 20:38 |
| agentle | ttx: I think so | 20:38 |
| agentle | thanks for bringing it up :) | 20:38 |
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| ttx | OK, the next topic on the agenda was the Akanda proposal, but it was very recently WIPped | 20:39 |
| ttx | while they address the trademark / use company name as project name question | 20:39 |
| sarob | yup | 20:39 |
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| ttx | So I propose we skip it and reconsider it when it's final and un-WIPped | 20:39 |
| sarob | good for me | 20:39 |
| lifeless | 101 clearly. | 20:39 |
| dhellmann | agentle: let's talk offline about ways to make substitutions like that simpler in rst | 20:39 |
| lifeless | Then we don't need to worry about capitalisation | 20:39 |
| ttx | Let me see if we can get another patch to replace it on the agenda | 20:39 |
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| maishsk | I just hope that we do not turn into the little v vs. the big V debate (from the vSphere world) | 20:40 |
| russellb | adding neutron to compute starter kit? | 20:40 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195771/ sounds like a good candidate | 20:40 |
| russellb | ah yes, that one first | 20:40 |
| jeblair | Topic lastday | 20:40 |
| jeblair | :( | 20:40 |
| ttx | since it was proposed in time -- any objection to discussing it now ? | 20:40 |
| jeblair | if we don't approve it, does jogo have to stay around? | 20:40 |
| russellb | props for doing real work until the end :) | 20:41 |
| ttx | changing the world until the last day | 20:41 |
| jeblair | okay, actually, i think that it was intentional | 20:41 |
| ttx | I'll take that as a yes | 20:41 |
| ttx | #topic Fix up the compute starter kit tag | 20:41 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195771/ | 20:41 |
| jeblair | i thought that the intent was to have real discussion on the application? | 20:42 |
| ttx | So this patch basically applies the tag to the initial set of projects | 20:42 |
| russellb | yeah, i think we knew it hadn't been applied yet, because there was potential follow-up discussion yet, especially neutron | 20:42 |
| russellb | but i think the initial set of projects here has consensus in any case | 20:42 |
| russellb | so +1 from me | 20:42 |
| ttx | It is also use as a base for mordred's patch proposing neutron addition | 20:42 |
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| mordred | yup | 20:42 |
| russellb | and the tag name seems fine | 20:42 |
| jeblair | at least, i think that some questions were deferred with "that can be dealt with in tag application" | 20:42 |
| flaper87 | yeah, I'm good with that too | 20:42 |
| ttx | which should make for an interesting discussion, but next week | 20:42 |
| ttx | jeblair: right | 20:42 |
| russellb | for some definition of interesting | 20:42 |
| ttx | jeblair: we said that the tag definition still needed to be applied | 20:43 |
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| ttx | and that we could rediscuss where it applies at that point. But I like the idea to iterate from the initial set proposed in the definition | 20:43 |
| jeblair | k, just mostly wanted to make the point that i don't think this was an oversight, and that we are expected to apply discretion to this :) | 20:43 |
| zaneb | I thought we had explicitly endorsed a tag starting with compute: during the previous discussion | 20:44 |
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| russellb | if anyone would like to talk some more about current neutron state, i'm happy to chat out-of-meeting, if that'd help develop opinions on this neutron thing, i've been trying to follow much more closely lately | 20:44 |
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| ttx | zaneb: I don't remember that... the prefix is a category thing, so compute: wouldn't make that much sense there ? | 20:44 |
| russellb | yeah, starter-kit makes sense as the category | 20:45 |
| zaneb | maybe it should just be compute-starter-kit? | 20:45 |
| ttx | We have majority at this point | 20:45 |
| russellb | or i guess it could be even more general, "group:compute-starter-kit" | 20:45 |
| russellb | but meh | 20:45 |
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| russellb | this wfm | 20:45 |
| ttx | zaneb: that is an option, but that can be proposed/discussed as a separate patch | 20:45 |
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| ttx | Alright, I'll approve this in 30sec, get tyour last votes in | 20:46 |
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| ttx | ok done | 20:47 |
| ttx | #topic Workgroup reports | 20:47 |
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| ttx | * Project Team guide workgroup | 20:47 |
| ttx | No progress since last week. Was focused on liberty-1, should make more progress this week | 20:47 |
| ttx | Any suggestion on where we should publish it ? | 20:47 |
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| flaper87 | I have a WIP patch that I'd be happy to start getting feedback on | 20:47 |
| flaper87 | (if no one has) | 20:47 |
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| lifeless | russellb: I'd like to do that. | 20:47 |
| flaper87 | and I'm sorry for being late there | 20:47 |
| lifeless | russellb: (chat) | 20:47 |
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| ttx | jeblair: IIRC you had an idea on where we should publish it | 20:48 |
| agentle | docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide? (that's original) | 20:48 |
| jeblair | ttx: i can't remember :) i like agentle's idea | 20:49 |
| ttx | The infra guide is at docs.openstack.org/infra rather than docs.openstack.org/infra-guide | 20:49 |
| agentle | ttx: they should rename it :) | 20:49 |
| ttx | blue pain t on my bikesheds | 20:49 |
| agentle | I kid! | 20:49 |
| agentle | red | 20:49 |
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| jeblair | yeah, we grabbed a subdir to hold all kinds of infra stuff | 20:49 |
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| jeblair | and by grabbed, i believe i mean, politely asked agentle for permission :) | 20:50 |
| agentle | jeblair: heh | 20:50 |
| ttx | jeblair: do you plan to work on the publication jobs ? | 20:50 |
| jeblair | ttx: can do; let's just #info the location when we finish bikeshedding | 20:50 |
| ttx | I'll do a complete review of the current chapters to check we have enough to start talking about it | 20:50 |
| ttx | Any objection to docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide ? | 20:51 |
| flaper87 | none from me | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | wfm | 20:51 |
| agentle | ttx: as long as you promise never to rename to program-team-guide | 20:51 |
| agentle | pinky swear? | 20:52 |
| ttx | #agreed Project team guide to be published to docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide | 20:52 |
| ttx | promise! | 20:52 |
| ttx | * Communications workgroup | 20:52 |
| ttx | agentle, flaper87: your turn | 20:52 |
| agentle | any movement on M name? | 20:52 |
| agentle | and really that doesn't come from "us" per se | 20:52 |
| agentle | do we need a blog post this week? | 20:52 |
| mordred | I got feedback from lsell | 20:52 |
| ttx | agentle: lots of things approved, but not exactly exciting stuff | 20:53 |
| agentle | oh and I keep forgetting to tweet | 20:53 |
| mordred | they are still working on it | 20:53 |
| agentle | mordred: okay | 20:53 |
| agentle | I think we could wait another week for compiled excitement | 20:53 |
| flaper87 | not sure if it's worth working on one this week | 20:53 |
| jbryce | agentle: summary is the top 2 choices were quickly tm-ed out of contention. 3rd looks promising, waiting for detailed search | 20:53 |
| agentle | jbryce: ok thanks for that | 20:53 |
| flaper87 | agentle: ++ | 20:53 |
| agentle | flaper87: mind meld | 20:53 |
| lifeless | agentle: surely we can't 'go' that long without compilation ? :) <boom-tish> | 20:54 |
| ttx | * Other workgroups | 20:54 |
| agentle | lifeless: lol | 20:54 |
| ttx | Any progress in other workgroups ? | 20:54 |
| lifeless | architecture still hasn't gotten off the group | 20:54 |
| lifeless | ground | 20:54 |
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| lifeless | thats on me and markmcclain to make a timeslice and get things really rolling. I've been focusing on getting the constraints cross-project omgosh stuff off my plate | 20:55 |
| ttx | Once the peak of excitement is reached on project-team-guide is reached and I enter the valley of desillusion, I might help out there | 20:55 |
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| agentle | heh | 20:55 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 20:55 |
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| russellb | agentle: which docs rae you referring to on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/196438/ ? | 20:55 |
| ttx | There was a post asking for volunteers for Travel support program | 20:55 |
| ttx | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-tc/2015-June/000998.html | 20:55 |
| ttx | Anyone interested ? | 20:55 |
| agentle | russellb: I haven't seen a coherent "this is how you do port assignment in neutron to make it like nova-net" nor a "how to migrate upgrade" | 20:56 |
| russellb | ttx: i replied off list that i'm willing to do it | 20:56 |
| dhellmann | I replied off list | 20:56 |
| jbryce | all you have to do is agree to house a few summit attendees in your room! = ) | 20:56 |
| russellb | agentle: migration/upgrade isn't relevant for a starting point tohugh | 20:56 |
| agentle | russellb: but it's possible it's there and I've missed it so need links | 20:56 |
| dhellmann | jbryce: as long as they aren't in my carry-on | 20:56 |
| russellb | agentle: and the first part, i'm not sure i get, that's probably the most fundamental part of the neutron API | 20:56 |
| agentle | russellb: mm | 20:56 |
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| russellb | creating a port on a network? | 20:56 |
| ttx | jbryce: I learned that in Japan you pay hotel rooms by occupancy and not per room, which if true menas you wouldn't win a lot | 20:57 |
| russellb | there has been discussion about provider networks, but that seems covered pretty nicely on http://docs.openstack.org/networking-guide/ scenarios 4a and 4b | 20:57 |
| mordred | 4a and 4b are great | 20:57 |
| russellb | i'd encourage anyone who hasn't seen that guide to check it out | 20:58 |
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| mordred | agentle: also, fwiw, shade makes nova-net look like neutron where possible | 20:58 |
| ttx | On the travel support program I'll reach out to Shari and check she has enough, and if not do another round of volunteer fishing | 20:58 |
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| mordred | agentle: in the instances where we're forced to interact with nova-net | 20:58 |
| russellb | shade? | 20:58 |
| mordred | agentle: might or might not be a useful collection of data for someone in terms of what dicts look like | 20:59 |
| agentle | russellb: yeah networking guide is great so where does it say "if you just want a network do this for your users" | 20:59 |
| ttx | clouds make shade, shade makes cloud | 20:59 |
| mordred | russellb: library that wraps python-*client with business logic to hide all the cloud differences | 20:59 |
| russellb | mordred: nice | 20:59 |
| mordred | russellb: being used in upstream ansible openstack modules as well as nodepool | 20:59 |
| russellb | agentle: depends on the networking model you want to use | 20:59 |
| agentle | I remember a note in the etherpad, mordred you may have pointed it out, that people didn't know "oh don't worry about running out of IP addresses, you just do this thing" | 20:59 |
| ttx | One minute warning. Anything else, anyone ? | 20:59 |
| russellb | the nova-network equivalent is documented nicely in the provider networks part | 20:59 |
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| agentle | russellb: so we need to say "use this scenario for a match with nova-net" | 20:59 |
| russellb | the "give me a network" stuff is about tenant networks | 20:59 |
| russellb | which is something nova-network doesn't have | 21:00 |
| russellb | well, not like neutron has it anyway | 21:00 |
| agentle | russellb: ok, put a link in that review and I'm good to go once I look | 21:00 |
| russellb | it's different / more than nova-net | 21:00 |
| ttx | Alright, time is up | 21:00 |
| agentle | oh yeah I'm up next! | 21:00 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone, I think we resorbed our backlog in one meeting. | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 21:00 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| agentle | nice work | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 21:00:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-06-30-20.01.html | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-06-30-20.01.txt | 21:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-06-30-20.01.log.html | 21:00 |
| ttx | agentle: floor is yours. | 21:00 |
| lifeless | afk for a few,family | 21:01 |
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| agentle | ttx: is it crossproject or cross-project? Eavesdrop has both :( | 21:01 |
| ttx | hmm | 21:01 |
| ttx | crossproject I think, let me check | 21:01 |
| agentle | #startmeeting crossproject | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 30 21:02:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is agentle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: crossproject)" | 21:02 | |
| agentle | ttx: yep | 21:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'crossproject' | 21:02 |
| lifeless | is now | 21:02 |
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| edleafe | agentle: Cross Project :) | 21:02 |
| thingee | we need to have a meeting topic before we can decide that :) | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | here | 21:02 |
| mestery | rofl | 21:02 |
| thingee | o/ | 21:02 |
| dims | o/ | 21:02 |
| * mestery waves | 21:02 | |
| tpatil | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#OpenStack_Cross-Project_Meeting says crossproject | 21:02 |
| edleafe | o/ | 21:02 |
| j^2 | o/ | 21:02 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 21:02 |
| elmiko | o/ | 21:02 |
| agentle | Agenda is here: | 21:02 |
| agentle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting#Proposed_agenda | 21:02 |
| ttx | man I love this Gerrit-driven agenda thing. | 21:02 |
| fungi | totally | 21:02 |
| gordc | o/ | 21:02 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 21:02 |
| agentle | sweet | 21:02 |
| ttx | I should do a lightning talk about it | 21:02 |
| agentle | Any team with an announcement? | 21:03 |
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| ttx | o/ | 21:03 |
| agentle | #topic Team announcements | 21:03 |
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| agentle | go ttx | 21:03 |
| ttx | On the release management side, we pushed liberty-1 last week | 21:03 |
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| agentle | grats! | 21:03 |
| * Rockyg is still lurking | 21:03 | |
| ttx | I think it went relatively well despite all the things we changed in the process | 21:03 |
| ttx | and is more fluid overall | 21:03 |
| ttx | We'll likely summarize the plan for Kilo and Liberty stable point releases on a thread this week | 21:03 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: anything to add ? | 21:03 |
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| fungi | oh, yeah icehouse branch eol this week | 21:03 |
| * devananda lurks as well | 21:03 | |
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| etoews | o/ | 21:04 |
| dhellmann | ttx: no, I think that covers it well | 21:04 |
| ttx | icehouse branch on ice | 21:04 |
| dhellmann | fungi: ++ | 21:04 |
| fungi | i'll be tagging and deleting stable/icehouse branches in all repos with the release:managed tag (which just got updated last meeting slot!) | 21:04 |
| ttx | fungi: just in time | 21:04 |
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| fungi | challenges of the bigtop | 21:04 |
| agentle | #info liberty-1 release pushed last week, Thurs Jun 25 2015 | 21:04 |
| agentle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2015-June/000391.html | 21:04 |
| ttx | that is all I had | 21:04 |
| agentle | #info icehouse stable branch end-of-life this week | 21:05 |
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| edleafe | icehouse to melt this week | 21:05 |
| agentle | ttx: nice post at http://ttx.re/new-versioning.html | 21:05 |
| ttx | edleafe: I blame global warming | 21:05 |
| agentle | #link http://ttx.re/new-versioning.html | 21:05 |
| fungi | to be fair, the branch already reached eol when 2014.1.5 was tagged a little over a week ago, this is just cleanup | 21:05 |
| agentle | Docs? Quality? Translation? | 21:05 |
| agentle | Security? | 21:06 |
| TravT | o/ | 21:06 |
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| agentle | any announcements or general info to share? | 21:06 |
| fungi | security team got a specs repo this week i think | 21:06 |
| fungi | not sure that's especially newsworthy | 21:06 |
| elmiko | \o/ | 21:06 |
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| agentle | Now I want to know what a diagonal team is | 21:07 |
| agentle | Anyone else? | 21:07 |
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| fungi | orthogonal teams next | 21:07 |
| dims | :) | 21:08 |
| dhellmann | everyone loves a good geometry joke | 21:08 |
| agentle | For docs, we are making progress on API reference info: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177934/ | 21:08 |
| agentle | Lots of goodness in there. | 21:08 |
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| agentle | Okay, next up. | 21:09 |
| fungi | dhellmann: i'll strive to keep my jokes as non-euclidian as possible | 21:09 |
| agentle | #topic Translation for non user facing messages | 21:09 |
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| ttx | notmyname: any release date in sight ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | oops too late | 21:09 |
| agentle | Looks like yamamoto is not here? | 21:09 |
| agentle | we can go back ttx if notmyname is around | 21:09 |
| notmyname | ttx: no, not yet | 21:09 |
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| ttx | ack thx | 21:09 |
| dhellmann | ttx: same question for devananda & ironic, I guess? | 21:09 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: well, I suspect that spec is blocking | 21:10 |
| dhellmann | ah, right | 21:10 |
| ttx | but yeah, swift will likely no longer be special soon. | 21:10 |
| devananda | dhellmann: not imminent, but I believe we'd like to try out the new release model soonish, say, within the next month | 21:10 |
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| dhellmann | devananda: ok. We're going to have to do some special work at that point, so we'll want some notice and to coordinate live with you when it happens. | 21:11 |
| devananda | dhellmann: so that we can get more comfortable with that process before the end of liberty | 21:11 |
| devananda | dhellmann: certainly | 21:11 |
| agentle | ok | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | devananda: tl;dr is we need to remove the version from setup.cfg as the next patch after the tag, so we need to make sure your gate doesn't have anything else in it at that moment, etc. | 21:11 |
| * dhellmann is done | 21:12 | |
| agentle | without yamamoto does anyone else want to talk about marking internal interface docstrings as not translatable? | 21:12 |
| agentle | Discussion here: | 21:12 |
| agentle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185300/1//COMMIT_MSG | 21:12 |
| ttx | question in the agenda is: | 21:12 |
| ttx | "messages like the following should be translated or not, where the exception is merely a part of internal api and will never reach users? " | 21:13 |
| lifeless | and I'm back | 21:13 |
| ttx | raise ValueError("message") | 21:13 |
| devananda | agentle: we're translating python docstrings?? | 21:13 |
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| bknudson | if the string isn't going to wind up in logs or getting returned to the user then no reason to mark it for translation | 21:13 |
| ttx | I guess we can discuss that question at least, even if he is not around | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure it's always easy to tell when an exception is guaranteed not to be put in front of a user | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | and I think that's garyk's point with the patch | 21:13 |
| bknudson | exceptions have a way of getting in logs or returned when you don't expect it. | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | bknudson: right | 21:13 |
| lifeless | agentle: do you mean 'docstring' - the specific docs attached to python objects, or 'strings that provide documentation' which is quite different | 21:13 |
| devananda | oh - exceptions, not doc string | 21:14 |
| agentle | devananda: ah sorry, right. | 21:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, those are exception messages | 21:14 |
| devananda | ++ to always translating them, even if you dont think they'll get logged | 21:14 |
| ttx | Personally I'm always for limiting translations scope and increase quality over a smaller scope | 21:14 |
| ttx | ie. 99% of A rather than 20% of A+B+C | 21:14 |
| lifeless | I don't see value in translating that one in a thousand case | 21:14 |
| lifeless | if its not intended for users | 21:14 |
| ttx | so that sounds like a bad trade-off to me. But then I'm not the target user | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | so which is worse, missing one because we think it's going to be internal-only or translating one that no one sees? | 21:15 |
| devananda | agentle: aiui, we hve a policy right now that all exception messages should get translated | 21:15 |
| bknudson | for the specific exceptions in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185300/1/neutron/ipam/__init__.py -- they look like they would be returned to the user. | 21:15 |
| lifeless | then its likely a) hard to explain well to translators, b) likely to change a lot, c) having good google-juice on the original is key to help folk find solutions | 21:15 |
| ttx | dhellmann: if we routinely had 100% translations I'd say "missing one" | 21:15 |
| bknudson | but this is in neutron so I have no idea | 21:15 |
| lifeless | if its intended for users, its part of the UI and should be translated. | 21:15 |
| ttx | but since we don't, I'd say "translating one that no one sees" | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | ttx: good point, I don't know what level of coverage we have with translations | 21:16 |
| lifeless | tl;dr: I don't think being an exception, or not being one, is criteria for translation-or-not. | 21:16 |
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| agentle | Looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/Infrastructure#Marked_for_translation I'm not sure what the policy is. | 21:16 |
| devananda | loosening that to "well, only the ones you think users will see" is just going to muddy the waters and lead to untranslated exceptions eventually bubbling up | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | lifeless: right, I think the point with that general policy is that a developer working on a local bit of code can't always tell if an exception is going to be presented to someone or not, so we were trying to make a simple rule that could be followed | 21:16 |
| agentle | dhellmann: I'm with you on simple rules | 21:17 |
| lifeless | devananda: do we translate the api ? | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | although ttx's counter-argument is also compelling | 21:17 |
| lifeless | e.g. is /servers/ in nova translated? | 21:17 |
| ttx | dhellmann: 100% is pretty rare | 21:17 |
| agentle | lifeless: no | 21:17 |
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| lifeless | so, we /don't/ have a rule that says 'everything users see is translated' | 21:17 |
| agentle | how would we communicate the policy? | 21:17 |
| bknudson | if they want to say that this string is never going to be seen then they can add a comment to the code that explains why it's not translated | 21:17 |
| lifeless | -> I don't see any specific concern about a user seeing a given untranslated string or not. | 21:17 |
| agentle | lifeless: other than the timewaste by translators | 21:18 |
| agentle | lifeless: which is I think the concern listed | 21:18 |
| lifeless | agentle: right - translating things that aren't intended for users is waste | 21:18 |
| lifeless | agentle: *I* think we're agreeing | 21:18 |
| agentle | lifeless: yeah I think so | 21:18 |
| lifeless | erm I *think* ... | 21:18 |
| agentle | so, how to communicate back? | 21:18 |
| agentle | on the review or? | 21:18 |
| devananda | lifeless: that's a straw man. human-readable exception and log messages are not API semantics | 21:18 |
| agentle | just in the notes of this meeting? | 21:18 |
| bknudson | let's clarify the policy if we have one | 21:18 |
| bknudson | then point to the policy | 21:18 |
| dhellmann | we have some policy-like statements in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html as well | 21:19 |
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| lifeless | devananda: but so is 'some random exception might bubble up'. Its a corner case | 21:19 |
| devananda | lifeless: that guideline, last time I read it, clearly said all exception messages should be translated | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | agentle: I can update the oslo.i18n docs with a statement about minimizing translator burden vs. following simple rules for identifying translatable strings | 21:20 |
| agentle | dhellmann: was just going to suggest something like that! | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | seems like we should not translated exceptions, then stop them getting to users, but I guess its never that clear cut sadly | 21:20 |
| lifeless | devananda: which guideline? | 21:20 |
| devananda | feedback from developers within Ironic is that having a clear policy for when to mark strings for translation is helpful, especially for reviewers | 21:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | dhellmann: +1 that plan | 21:20 |
| agentle | #action dhellmann to update the oslo.i18n docs with a statement about minimizing translator burden vs. following simple rules for identifying translatable strings | 21:20 |
| devananda | lifeless: the one dhellmann linked on eminut eago | 21:20 |
| lifeless | devananda: ack; so it doesn't now. | 21:20 |
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| dhellmann | devananda: were you referring to a policy written down somewhere other than the oslo.i18n docs or the wiki? | 21:21 |
| lifeless | devananda: it documents how to do it, but not when | 21:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I like the describing why | 21:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | projects can then work out what that means for them | 21:21 |
| lifeless | the policy is I think at the first line | 21:21 |
| lifeless | Text messages the user sees via exceptions or API calls should be translated using .... | 21:21 |
| devananda | huh... my DNS is failing because VPN, so I'm having trouble finding the reference that I'm thinking of | 21:21 |
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| agentle | I like "lead with the why" | 21:21 |
| lifeless | which is entirely reasonable IMO | 21:21 |
| lifeless | johnthetubaguy: agentle: I support leading with why, too. | 21:22 |
| lifeless | anyhow, the neutron review seems to be user error strings | 21:22 |
| agentle | ok, so I'll keep that action. | 21:22 |
| lifeless | its in an argument validation function | 21:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah | 21:22 |
| devananda | dhellmann: it was in the portion of docs (or wiki) which explained the difference between _LE, _LW, _LI, etc | 21:22 |
| agentle | any other discussion or action to take? | 21:22 |
| lifeless | so I think we should say: | 21:23 |
| lifeless | - that neutron patch is doing the right thing | 21:23 |
| lifeless | - projects can set their own specific rules, but our broad intent is only that strings intended for the user should be translated | 21:23 |
| devananda | lifeless: to clarify, end-user or operator? | 21:23 |
| lifeless | - (and if thats too hard to track in a given project, by all means say 'translate all' - but be aware of the load that imposes on reviewers | 21:24 |
| thingee | devananda: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/log-guidelines.html | 21:24 |
| lifeless | devananda: good question | 21:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | thingee: I was thinking about debug logs vs exceptions here, thats a good thing to raise | 21:24 |
| lifeless | devananda: I don't know the prior discussions here, but I think an inclusive approach (end-user-or-operator) makes sense. | 21:24 |
| bknudson | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.i18n/guidelines.html says debug is not translated | 21:24 |
| lifeless | exceptions for internal state signalling for instance are not intended for either of those users. | 21:25 |
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| thingee | dhellmann: perhaps our log guideline should be updated rather than the oslo doc? http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/log-guidelines.html | 21:25 |
| agentle | thingee: perhaps both | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | thingee: this isn't about logging, though | 21:25 |
| thingee | or reference each other | 21:25 |
| thingee | logging guidelines not about logging? | 21:25 |
| bknudson | translated messages also get returned to users | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | we put the guidelines in the i18n docs because that's the tool we were using for translation | 21:26 |
| agentle | dhellmann: +1 | 21:26 |
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| bknudson | e.g., for a keystone request if you set the accept-language you can get error messages back in your favorite language | 21:26 |
| agentle | bknudson: nice | 21:27 |
| thingee | dhellmann: I think it's good to talk about the tool and the modules then? I'm unsure if it's the right place for guidelines as the doc I raised which is about guidelines. | 21:27 |
| agentle | We should also consider where the translation team will look for guidelines, perhaps the wiki? | 21:27 |
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| agentle | I'll let the i18n team look at these notes to see if they want to add anything to their wiki pages. | 21:28 |
| agentle | Ok, moving on | 21:28 |
| agentle | #topic API WG spec review: Clarifications on state-conflicting requests | 21:28 |
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| agentle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180094 | 21:29 |
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| agentle | This is in freeze. | 21:30 |
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| elmiko | assuming no arguements it will be merged on friday, iirc | 21:30 |
| agentle | so the API WG will use lazy consensus to merge if there are no objections | 21:30 |
| agentle | elmiko: that sounds right | 21:30 |
| dhellmann | updated translation policy for review: https://review.openstack.org/197339 | 21:31 |
| etoews | all the gory details of the api wg merge process are here. http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/api-wg/process.html | 21:31 |
| agentle | thanks etoews | 21:31 |
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| agentle | Ok, next topic | 21:32 |
| agentle | #topic Return request ID to caller (tpatil): Spec review | 21:32 |
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| agentle | tpatil: around? | 21:32 |
| tpatil | yes | 21:32 |
| tpatil | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/ | 21:32 |
| tpatil | Doug has given +2 on our spec | 21:32 |
| tpatil | Need one more +2 from core reviewer, then I will request respective python clients PTL to approve blueprint so that we can start pushing patches | 21:32 |
| agentle | thanks tpatil! | 21:32 |
| tpatil | We would be ready with implementation for python-glanceclient, python-cinderclient and python-neutronclient by end of this week and would start with python-novaclient early next week | 21:32 |
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| tpatil | Once get_previous_request_id method is available in all python client libraries then we can move on step 2 (another spec in future) of logging caller and caller request ids on the same log message if osprofiler doesn’t work out well | 21:33 |
| dhellmann | I'm pretty happy with that spec now. We should put it on the TC agenda for review, too. | 21:33 |
| thingee | dhellmann: +1 | 21:33 |
| agentle | dhellmann: ok | 21:33 |
| tpatil | Thanks Doug for reviewing the specs | 21:33 |
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| tpatil | That's all I wanted to update here | 21:33 |
| agentle | okay, sounds good tpatil | 21:34 |
| agentle | bknudson: did you have any discussion points (looking at the review) | 21:34 |
| bknudson | agentle: I commented in the review | 21:34 |
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| agentle | bknudson: ok | 21:34 |
| agentle | who adds to the TC agenda, ttx? | 21:35 |
| agentle | (I'm guessing) | 21:35 |
| tpatil | bknudson: We will reply to your comment soon | 21:35 |
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| agentle | Okay that was it for the Agenda topics, did anyone else have anything or should I open it up for open discussion? | 21:35 |
| bknudson | tpatil: thanks | 21:35 |
| etoews | 1 thing | 21:36 |
| jokke_ | tpatil: ping me when you need review for the glanceclient | 21:36 |
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| tpatil | jokke_: Sure | 21:36 |
| etoews | i'm thinking it's time to put the python openstack sdk in the big tent. | 21:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | tpatil: looks good from a nova point of view, good step forward | 21:36 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 21:36 |
| agentle | etoews: +1 | 21:37 |
| ttx | agentle: if not in a governance review, post to -tc list | 21:37 |
| agentle | ttx: ok, thanks | 21:37 |
| etoews | i'd raise a review to the governance repo | 21:37 |
| edleafe | etoews: it's wayyyy past time | 21:37 |
| etoews | i just wanted to "check the temperature" on that here. any thoughts or feedback? | 21:38 |
| bknudson | I thought it was already in the big tent | 21:38 |
| agentle | #action agentle to post to -tc list to add Return request ID to caller openstack-specs to TC meeting agenda | 21:38 |
| ttx | agentle: in the case of a cross-project spec I just pick them up when they collected a large number of +1s | 21:38 |
| ttx | i.e. when we can assume they have reached community consensus | 21:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | etoews: FWIW, I would like to see it official, like bknudson I kinda assumed it was already | 21:38 |
| agentle | bknudson: the openstackclient is | 21:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah... | 21:39 |
| Rockyg | etoews: just create the patch and it should happen PDQ | 21:39 |
| edleafe | yeah, this is the pure Python SDK | 21:39 |
| edleafe | not a CLI | 21:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: agreed | 21:39 |
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| bknudson | can we kick the other clients out of the tent? | 21:39 |
| etoews | :) | 21:39 |
| edleafe | bknudson: don't be mean! | 21:39 |
| fungi | at one point osc and the unified sdk devs had sort of joined forces, but it's not clear that continued and it's at least not formalized | 21:39 |
| fungi | dtroyer: ^ ? | 21:40 |
| dtroyer | bknudson: not _quite_ yet… | 21:40 |
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| dtroyer | it wasn't until YVR that we felt SDK was ready to be included in a shipping client | 21:40 |
| etoews | we've got a roadmap to 1.0 now | 21:40 |
| dtroyer | that hasn't started yet but we plan to start soon | 21:41 |
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| bknudson | we need to get our keystoneauth library out | 21:41 |
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| etoews | that would be helpful | 21:41 |
| agentle | is keystoneauth a dependency though? | 21:41 |
| agentle | or nice-to-have | 21:42 |
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| etoews | okay. so the temperature is warm. :) | 21:43 |
| dtroyer | it will be a dependency | 21:43 |
| agentle | dtroyer: ok | 21:43 |
| agentle | etoews: lukewarm? :) | 21:43 |
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| etoews | warm | 21:43 |
| agentle | etoews: texas-summer-warm | 21:43 |
| agentle | ok, I'll open it up | 21:43 |
| dtroyer | agentle: +1 | 21:43 |
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| agentle | #topic Open Discussion | 21:43 |
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| agentle | thanks etoews and dtroyer | 21:43 |
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| agentle | I don't know how many heard in the TC meeting we're still awaiting M name, 1 and 2 are trademark, 3 is looking up. | 21:44 |
| * agentle hasn't even looked up 3 yet | 21:44 | |
| dtroyer | m3 is taken by BMW | 21:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dtroyer: lol | 21:45 |
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| dhellmann | that's an unrelated field, though, so I think we're ok | 21:45 |
| bknudson | performance release for that release | 21:45 |
| agentle | heh | 21:45 |
| bknudson | focus on performance for that release | 21:45 |
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| agentle | Alright do I get a cookie if we finish early? | 21:45 |
| Rockyg | dtroyer: I thought there was actually a trademark fight over that between BMW and someone else? | 21:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | I want to do 5 milestones... | 21:45 |
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| agentle | Or a penalty flag? | 21:45 |
| etoews | cookie cookie cookie | 21:46 |
| dtroyer | Rockyg: I wouldn't be surprised, don't recall | 21:46 |
| Rockyg | Cookie! | 21:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have been told its called an early mark | 21:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | no idea what that is | 21:46 |
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| agentle | I have never heard of an early mark in all my word nerdery days. | 21:46 |
| ttx | cookie. | 21:46 |
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| agentle | alrighty then! | 21:46 |
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| agentle | Thanks everyone. | 21:46 |
| agentle | Looking for someone to run this meeting next week, let ttx know if you're interested. He sends training guides AND reminders. | 21:47 |
| ttx | Thanks agentle! | 21:47 |
| agentle | #endmeeting | 21:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 30 21:47:18 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-06-30-21.02.html | 21:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-06-30-21.02.txt | 21:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-06-30-21.02.log.html | 21:47 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting#Chair_rotation | 21:47 |
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| ttx | just add yourself there ^ | 21:47 |
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| agentle | oh good we do have someone for next week, next opportunity is July 21 | 21:47 |
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