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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 15:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:00 |
| asselin | hi | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hey asselin | 15:00 |
| anteaya | #chair asselin | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: anteaya asselin | 15:01 |
| anteaya | asselin: I'm on a train, if my wifi gets knocked out can you continue and ensure we end on time? | 15:01 |
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| asselin | ok sure | 15:01 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:01 |
| anteaya | while we see if anyone else is joing us today, how are you doing? | 15:02 |
| asselin | I'm fine. It's monday :) | 15:02 |
| anteaya | yay monday | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | what is the status of the tempest volume encryption situation? | 15:03 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hello ameade | 15:03 |
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| ameade | hey hey | 15:03 |
| rhe00 | hi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hi | 15:03 |
| rhe00 | hemna was working on that last week. it is quite broken | 15:03 |
| asselin | anteaya, there are quite a few bugs out for volume encryption | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hmmmm | 15:03 |
| rhe00 | I think only non multipath iscsi works | 15:04 |
| anteaya | is thingee aware of the situation? | 15:04 |
| asselin | we disabled all of them since they're broken. | 15:04 |
| anteaya | :( | 15:04 |
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| asselin | the test passing doesn't mean anything anyways (false positive) | 15:04 |
| anteaya | right | 15:04 |
| asselin | I think there's 3-4 bugs open now. | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | anyone working on them? | 15:05 |
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| rhe00 | hemna was working on it last week. not sure if that is his highest priority | 15:05 |
| asselin | I saw Nha Pham phqnha pick one up...but hemnafk might be working on it too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1439855 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1439855 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "encrypted iSCSI volume fails to attach, name too long" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Nha Pham (phqnha) | 15:06 |
| anteaya | are any of you able to help address any of the bugs in any way? | 15:06 |
| rhe00 | I am working on one in Cinder https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1442302 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442302 in Cinder "volume manager should set encrypted property in connection_info" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Hedlind (richard-hedlind) | 15:06 |
| anteaya | help track down the exact source, for instance? | 15:06 |
| anteaya | rhe00: yay | 15:06 |
| rhe00 | asselin: do you know if hemna is around? | 15:07 |
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| rhe00 | maybe he could give us an update on his work | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | well that isn't really required | 15:07 |
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| asselin | rhe00, he should be in later. You can ping him in cinder channel. | 15:07 |
| anteaya | as this is a third party meeting, not a cinder meeting | 15:07 |
| rhe00 | ok | 15:08 |
| anteaya | mostly I just wanted to ensure cinder core is awaare | 15:08 |
| anteaya | and that third party operators get involved in supporting a solution as much as possilbe | 15:08 |
| anteaya | that is my goal | 15:08 |
| asselin | anteaya, yes, there are formal bugs open in cinder, nova, & tempest. | 15:08 |
| anteaya | so thank you, rhe00 for picking up that bug | 15:08 |
| rhe00 | asselin: has encrypted volumes test been disabled in tempest? | 15:08 |
| anteaya | asselin: great | 15:08 |
| asselin | rhe00, no | 15:08 |
| anteaya | that would be thingee's decision I think | 15:09 |
| anteaya | you can share your thoughts on that, but I would leave that to thingee to decide | 15:09 |
| anteaya | so let's move on, shall we? | 15:09 |
| asselin | sure | 15:09 |
| rhe00 | sure | 15:09 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss about their system today? | 15:10 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:10 |
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| asselin | I found a workaround for the cinder "test_minimum_scenario" --> use neutron networking instead of nova-networking | 15:10 |
| anteaya | asselin: do expand | 15:10 |
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| asselin | no idea why nova-networking fails. I was debugging it and for some reason the nova instance was not able to get an ip address, and hence the test failed | 15:11 |
| anteaya | :( | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | do you feel it warrents a bug report? | 15:11 |
| asselin | I debugged it a bit, and it's the path going from nova to the instance that's broken. | 15:12 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | hey wznoinsk | 15:12 |
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| asselin | tcpdump showed that an ip address was being assigned, but the packet couldn't make it's way in.... | 15:12 |
| anteaya | hmmmm | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | asselin: what action would you like to take on that? | 15:13 |
| asselin | seems this is hitting certain ci systems, and not others....no idea why that would be the case. | 15:13 |
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| asselin | anteaya, none: I switched to neutron which is working. | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | hmmmm | 15:14 |
| asselin | anteaya, anyway, seems that's the future solution, so all the better that one works. | 15:14 |
| anteaya | true | 15:14 |
| anteaya | what did you do to fix? | 15:14 |
| * asselin looks up the line | 15:15 | |
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| asselin | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/devstack-vm-gate.sh#n82 | 15:16 |
| asselin | export DEVSTACK_GATE_NEUTRON=1 | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | where did you put that in your code? | 15:16 |
| asselin | you can put that in your jenkins job | 15:17 |
| anteaya | awesome | 15:17 |
| anteaya | thank you for sharing that, asselin | 15:17 |
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| anteaya | any questions here? | 15:17 |
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| asselin | #link https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing-data/blob/master/etc/jenkins_jobs/config/dsvm-cinder-driver.yaml.sample#L57 | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | nice | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | any more for this topic? | 15:19 |
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| asselin | that's it, just wanted to share it with others in the same boat | 15:19 |
| anteaya | thank you for doing so | 15:19 |
| anteaya | not wanting to rush you, just no point in having dead air | 15:20 |
| anteaya | anyone else with anything to discuss today? | 15:20 |
| rhe00 | I noticed on Friday that some CIs do not provide console logs in their results, which makes it really hard to know what tests they ran. | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | no kidding | 15:20 |
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| asselin | rhe00, ++ | 15:20 |
| ameade | i would just ping them individually | 15:20 |
| anteaya | what project are those ci systems testing? | 15:20 |
| rhe00 | ok | 15:20 |
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| rhe00 | Cinder | 15:21 |
| rhe00 | might test others as well, not sure | 15:21 |
| anteaya | so I suggest you create a list of the systems you saw, and share the list with thingee | 15:21 |
| asselin | rhe00, do you have a link? | 15:21 |
| asselin | or what anteaya said | 15:21 |
| rhe00 | I was trying to chase down false positives, since I checked in an incomplete fix and pretty much all CIs should have failed. | 15:21 |
| anteaya | they need to have console logs | 15:21 |
| anteaya | rhe00: good test | 15:22 |
| anteaya | rhe00: what did you discover? | 15:22 |
| rhe00 | asselin: one second, I'll find it | 15:22 |
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| rhe00 | This is the link to my check in. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172531/ | 15:23 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172531/ | 15:23 |
| rhe00 | the VMWare NSX was the one without console logs. Now it is not accesible at all. | 15:24 |
| anteaya | rhe00: please bring this to thingee's attention | 15:24 |
| anteaya | rhe00: thank you for sharing your findings | 15:24 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: I will | 15:24 |
| anteaya | the ci operators are the best source of ensuring quality in the ci systems of a project | 15:25 |
| anteaya | poor reliablity means that all cis for the project are painted with the same brush | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | by helping operators get good quality in their ci systems, all ci systems for that project are seen as more reliable | 15:26 |
| anteaya | so thank you | 15:26 |
| asselin | I still have this issue: there are still failing in my setup: test_cinder_volume_create_delete, test_cinder_volume_create_delete_retain | 15:26 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: I will follow up on this and hopefully help getting the situation improved | 15:26 |
| asselin | anyone else? | 15:26 |
| krtaylor | rhe00, try the monitoring dashboard that patrickeast set up, it will show comparisons for all cinder systems | 15:26 |
| anteaya | rhe00: thank you | 15:27 |
| anteaya | asselin: nice job, carry on | 15:27 |
| asselin | related to heat | 15:27 |
| rhe00 | krtaylor: do you have the link for that? I used to have it, but not sure where I have it | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | hm, which seems to be down at the moment http://ec2-54-67-102-119.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com:5000 | 15:27 |
| * anteaya reorganized the space | 15:27 | |
| krtaylor | rhe00, ^^^ | 15:27 |
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| rhe00 | krtaylor: got it. anteaya: carry on | 15:28 |
| asselin | #link https://github.com/patrick-east/scoreboard | 15:28 |
| asselin | rhe00, ^^ I fyou want to run your own | 15:28 |
| rhe00 | asselin: I might try that. thanks | 15:29 |
| krtaylor | asselin, good point, we are internally too | 15:29 |
| krtaylor | very nice simple tool | 15:29 |
| ameade | nice | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | asselin: did you want to ask your question again? | 15:31 |
| asselin | I still have this issue: there are still failing in my setup: test_cinder_volume_create_delete, test_cinder_volume_create_delete_retain | 15:31 |
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| asselin | (it would be great to have a scoreboard showing what tests each ci is running) | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | it would indeed | 15:32 |
| asselin | those are related to heat. tests pass when run manually, but not as part of the ci job....? | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | how interesting | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | well so far it doesn't sound like anyone present is able to confirm your findings | 15:33 |
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| asselin | but I don't have stack traces available now. | 15:33 |
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| asselin | yeah, guess it's just me. | 15:33 |
| krtaylor | asselin, is it related to the caching of all the heat images (regardless of whether they will be used or not) | 15:33 |
| asselin | krtaylor, not sure...it seemed to be an issue with the heat client not able to access the heat service....?? | 15:34 |
| krtaylor | asselin, hm, that doesnt sound the same | 15:35 |
| asselin | anyway we can move on....when I get stack traces I can ask again. | 15:35 |
| anteaya | okay sounds good | 15:35 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:36 |
| krtaylor | asselin, the problem we were seeing was failure when it tried to download the fedora cloud image -> https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/89983b6dfe15e8e83f390e9870cc3ddfbf2b8243 | 15:36 |
| krtaylor | asselin, not sure if you are pinned to an old version maybe | 15:37 |
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| asselin | krtaylor, no i'm on master now.... | 15:37 |
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| krtaylor | asselin, must be a different problem then | 15:37 |
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| asselin | krtaylor, yes, thanks anyway | 15:38 |
| anteaya | any other topics needing to be discussed today? | 15:38 |
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| anteaya | if the answer is no, feel free to say no, we can have 20 minutes of our life back | 15:39 |
| asselin | not from me | 15:39 |
| anteaya | thanks asselin | 15:39 |
| anteaya | anyone else? | 15:40 |
| krtaylor | none for me, thanks anteaya | 15:40 |
| rhe00 | none here | 15:40 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:40 |
| anteaya | let's round it out then | 15:40 |
| anteaya | asselin: would you do the honours? | 15:40 |
| asselin | sure: | 15:40 |
| asselin | #endmeeting | 15:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 15:40:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-13-15.00.html | 15:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-13-15.00.txt | 15:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-13-15.00.log.html | 15:40 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:20 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 16:20:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:20 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:20 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:20 |
| xylan | hi | 16:20 |
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| xylan | my first time here | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | heey | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | what time is it in your timezone? ) | 16:21 |
| xylan | 00:30 | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | woow | 16:21 |
| xylan | a little late | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | you're desparate :)) ha-ha | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:21 |
| dzimine | hi | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | not sure though if we'll have a lot of people here today | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | let's wait | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | hi dzimine | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | how are you? | 16:22 |
| dzimine | :20 is a strange time, easy to miss | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | it was going to be temporary | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | because scheduling issues | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | I hope to fix it soon | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | sorry for that | 16:23 |
| dzimine | np at all. | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start discussing something | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:23 | |
| dzimine | ok m4dcoder won't join today, he's on a plane fyling to PyCon, btw if any of you guys are in PyCon, you can hook around | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: file LP bugs for concurrent issues in data flow and join tests | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1443285 | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1443285 in Mistral kilo "Periodic failures of data flow and join tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Renat Akhmerov (rakhmerov) | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov, dzimine: figure out a plan for adding complex workflows into integration tests | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | still need to do, I hope this week | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, dzimine: figure out a plan for adding complex workflows into integration tests | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | it's not urgent though IMO | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | 3. dzimine, rakhmerov: create necessary BPs for changes described in https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit# | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | they're created | 16:25 |
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| dzimine | done | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | 4. rakhmerov: make sure to look at "Invent better condition" section in https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit#heading=h.n1jc8i9qhikt | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | I did look at it | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | I think it doesn't make sense to discuss details right now | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | and we decided to move it to liberty right | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | let's move next | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status (by team member) | 16:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Status (by team member) (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:27 | |
| dzimine | haven't done any mistral work last week. | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | my status: last week I finished deleting all v1 stuff, finally it's done. I also started fixing another portion of concurrency problems occurring in Mistral engine once in a while | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | I'm still in progress | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | I also see a bunch of patches from xylan and m4dcoder that I need to review today | 16:28 |
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| xylan | yes, i have finished this bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-default-input-values today, still need to fix some issues Winson suggested | 16:29 |
| dzimine | m4dcoder has his YAML validation patch ready but not in waiting for YAQL changes to merge | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:29 |
| dzimine | not it's rebased. | 16:29 |
| dzimine | and ready to be reviewed (except we should discuss YAQL in a min). | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | xylan, ok, I'll review your patches (and I hope others too) tomorrow the first thing | 16:29 |
| xylan | very appreciate | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | I have something to discuss on YAQL too | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | let me quickly report on RC1 progress | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | #topic RC1 progress | 16:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 progress (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:30 | |
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| rakhmerov | so this week we'll release RC1 | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | basically we just need to squeeze in a couple of things | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | DSL changes (like removing "policies") | 16:31 |
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| NikolayM | hi everyone | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | I am late, sorry | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | and some additional things on "with-items" | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | hi NikolayM | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | can you please report your status? | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | so RC1 I think is on target, we have several things that we're going to finish this week | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | and btw, TC will be considering Mistral addition to OpenStack | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | cross your fingers ) | 16:34 |
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| dzimine | nice | 16:34 |
| xylan | :) | 16:34 |
| NikolayM | my status: last week I fixed some bugs, especially bug with DB error in transport and issue with 500 error on API in case of rabbit transport | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | I already saw the corresponding item in their agenda for tomorrow | 16:34 |
| NikolayM | also worked on moving to YAQL 1.0 | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, good, I saw your patches but didn't have a chance to review | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's go straight to open discussion and talk about YAQL and whatever else that we need | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:35 |
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| NikolayM | rakhmerov, I heard that murano has integration w/ mistral but they are still using old yaql (0.2.4) | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok, yes | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | that was my first item I wanted to discuss | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | so | 16:36 |
| NikolayM | so they want us to revert yaql in Mistral to 0.2.4 | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | it's kind of weird actually | 16:36 |
| NikolayM | yes | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | is that a blocker for them? | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | the fact that we use YAQL 1.0 already | 16:36 |
| dzimine | they talked us into using 1.0 :) and now it's a problem | 16:37 |
| NikolayM | I think it is a good idea to have a discussion with murano guys | 16:37 |
| NikolayM | dzimine, yes :) | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM, can you please explain the root of the problem? | 16:37 |
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| dzimine | yeah if we begin to put changes on top of changes - like there are 2 patches on review to adjust to 1.0 YAQL... | 16:38 |
| dzimine | may be it's a right thing for them to push forward :) | 16:38 |
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| dzimine | so, discuss on mail list? | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | so as far as I understand the only problem for them now is that integration piece made my HP folks? Murano calling Mistral workflows? | 16:39 |
| NikolayM | rakhmerov, Mistral is not working w/ murano | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, yes, I think it should be discussed in ML | 16:39 |
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| NikolayM | rakhmerov, yes | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, what does it mean "is not working ..."? | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | so, integration... | 16:39 |
| NikolayM | murano and mistral have different yaql versions | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | is it critical for them to make it work now by the end of Kilo? | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | I know | 16:40 |
| NikolayM | ooh, I don't know exactly | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | I am just trying to understand the scale of the problem for Murano | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ML | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | #action NikolayM: start ML discussion on YAQL 1.0, all: participate in it | 16:41 |
| dzimine | AFAIK it's not Murano problem: it's a problem for the Murano/Congress/Mistral integration initiative project. | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | may be | 16:41 |
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| dzimine | To which they run the gate tests just to be sure that the 3 install together in the same building. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | it would be cool if we could somehow support both YAQL versions | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | but it may not be that easy to do | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine, yes | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | I saw that Stan was mentioning that there's a chance for Murano to transition to YAQL 1.0 | 16:43 |
| dzimine | so we need to check if this is a voting gate, how critical it is (e.g. can we make it fail till they upgrade), etc. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's try to figure the solution here | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:43 |
| dzimine | ok, Mailing list than. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, looks like you had a topic to discuss? | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | on yaql too | 16:44 |
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| dzimine | yaql we just discussed. | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, I thought you were going to discuss something else | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:45 |
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| dzimine | on more integration tests - we probably need Nastya to participate. | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:46 |
| dzimine | We have some Mistral integation tests we use in StackStorm, which can be creatively ported to mistral functional tests. Some workflows | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | we can try to schedule a meeting with her | 16:46 |
| dzimine | so no, nothing esle. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: schedule a meeting with Dmitri and Nastya about integration testing | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | quick question | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | did you already switch to using our latest code? | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | after that big refactoring | 16:48 |
| dzimine | yes, to after big refactoring code. | 16:49 |
| dzimine | but not to the latest bits. | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | was just curious to know if it works ok for you | 16:50 |
| dzimine | https://github.com/StackStorm/mistral/tree/st2-0.8.1 | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | we still keep finding some concurrent issues in our tests | 16:50 |
| dzimine | you can always see what we are usign - the latest branch corresponds to what it is. | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm now trying to polish everything to avoid them | 16:50 |
| dzimine | the question there is what is 'tests', because of sqlite, and what is real. | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks, got it | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, exactly, that's what I'm trying to figure out now | 16:51 |
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| dzimine | that's why I think if we do 1) functional test and 2) find ways to run them under stress we will be catching many of these concurrencty issues. | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | I fixed a number of things weeks ago but now I have only assumptions where and what may be wrong | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | 100% agree | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | so it's an important thing to do | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | let's discuss the plan on our regular meeting this week (or earlier if possible) | 16:52 |
| dzimine | rakhmerov if you reach out to m4dcoder directly he had some ideas and script runs that stress tests mistral. | 16:53 |
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| dzimine | they are not directly applicable to mistral as they rely on st2 but may be can be ported. | 16:53 |
| dzimine | I'll talk to him too. | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | sure | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | I'll do | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: talk to Winson about his ideas on how to run stress tests in Mistral | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | ok, guys. Do you have anything else? | 16:55 |
| dzimine | not on my side. | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | any blockers that you see? | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | ooh | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, did you already think how to implement ordering for 'with-items'? | 16:55 |
| NikolayM | not yet | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | is going to be simple/hard? | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | ok, no problem | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | please spend some time and let us know | 16:56 |
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| NikolayM | I think it won't be so simple | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | :)) | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | let's think about it | 16:56 |
| NikolayM | ok | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | we need to implement it before Apr 30 | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | it's kind of a critical bug in 'with-items' now | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I suggest that we close our meeting for today. 2 mins left | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | thanks guys for coming | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | appreciate that | 16:58 |
| xylan | :) | 16:58 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:58 |
| xylan | bye | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:58 |
| dzimine | cheers | 16:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 16:58:42 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-13-16.20.html | 16:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-13-16.20.txt | 16:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-13-16.20.log.html | 16:58 |
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| rluethi | so, who was first? | 17:00 |
| sayalilunkad | haha me I guess :P | 17:00 |
| rluethi | okay, the chair is yours. | 17:01 |
| sayalilunkad | Alrighty! | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | hey guys | 17:01 |
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| rluethi | hey matjazp | 17:01 |
| sayalilunkad | #startmeeting | 17:01 |
| openstack | sayalilunkad: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 17:01 |
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| sayalilunkad | #startmeeting Training Guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 17:01:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sayalilunkad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| Chubby | Hello all | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| sayalilunkad | Hello everyone | 17:02 |
| rluethi | close enough :-) | 17:02 |
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| rluethi | good evening, miss chair. | 17:02 |
| sayalilunkad | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:02 |
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| sayalilunkad | good evening rluethi :) | 17:02 |
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| sayalilunkad | Roll call? | 17:03 |
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| matjazp | I guess it's just us... anyone else? | 17:04 |
| rluethi | just the three of us? | 17:04 |
| sayalilunkad | ok, let's start with the items on the agenda then. | 17:04 |
| Chubby | hi | 17:04 |
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| Chubby | I am here | 17:04 |
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| Chubby | Utsav | 17:04 |
| rluethi | hi Chubby | 17:04 |
| matjazp | hi Chubby | 17:04 |
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| sayalilunkad | Hello Chubby | 17:04 |
| Chubby | Hello | 17:04 |
| sayalilunkad | #topic reviews | 17:04 |
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| sayalilunkad | pending reviews list: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z | 17:05 |
| matjazp | could you guys look at upstream cleanup patches? | 17:05 |
| * rluethi feels guilty | 17:05 | |
| rluethi | I'll try to find some time. | 17:05 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: yes we can start reviewing those since the infra patch has been merged | 17:05 |
| matjazp | I'm rolling a training guides hiero patch later today | 17:05 |
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| rluethi | The cleanup patches are important work which is (in spite of appearances) very appreciated. | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | It'll will have to be with rst cleanup, I'm afraid.. no other way to look at generated slides. So it will be a larger patch | 17:06 |
| Chubby | I have a doubt its related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164534/ | 17:07 |
| rluethi | Chubby: It is not related, as far as I can tell. | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | Chubby: filter is on labs, right? so its not related | 17:08 |
| sayalilunkad | Chubby: we will take up that patch after the current discussion | 17:08 |
| rluethi | Chubby: In fact, I hope it is not related, because the patch you linked looks like it can be merged independently. | 17:08 |
| matjazp | labs=labs folder | 17:08 |
| Chubby | okay | 17:08 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: I am totally lost wrt to the state of the slides. how do I test/build the cleanup slides? | 17:09 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: you can test them using tox | 17:10 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: tox | 17:10 |
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| matjazp | tox -e upstream-slides | 17:10 |
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| matjazp | otherwise it will build labs and it takes much longer | 17:11 |
| rluethi | matjazp: okay. thanks. | 17:11 |
| sayalilunkad | the readme has been updated in this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171548/2/doc/upstream-training/README | 17:11 |
| sayalilunkad | ok anything else about the slides? | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | training slides are going really slow... would need some help after we merge hiero patch (upcoming) | 17:12 |
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| sayalilunkad | what is our aim till the release for the slides? | 17:13 |
| matjazp | I hope that after infra is set and some content is in repo pace will pick up | 17:13 |
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| matjazp | you mean like a deadline? milestone? | 17:14 |
| sayalilunkad | no I mean content wise till say kilo release | 17:15 |
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| matjazp | well in fact content for the associate slide is pretty much independent from the releases - associate guide is basic stuff that is same for all releases (or at least similar) | 17:16 |
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| matjazp | so when we have a first set of slides in, they don't change much I guess | 17:17 |
| sayalilunkad | okay and are we aiming to complete any other slides soonish? So we know what area needs to be focused on slides wise. | 17:17 |
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| matjazp | sayalilunkad: other slides? we should finish associate guide first | 17:18 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: ok so we can focus on it's completion till the summit. | 17:19 |
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| sayalilunkad | moving on, this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164534/3 | 17:19 |
| rluethi | looks good to me, I wonder what Pranav wanted to discuss. | 17:20 |
| matjazp | looks good to me too.. | 17:20 |
| sayalilunkad | Andreas left a comment on patchset 3 to not add another job for bashate check | 17:20 |
| sayalilunkad | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164534/3/tox.ini | 17:20 |
| Chubby | why cant we add it to slides? | 17:20 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: thanks. maybe we should ask Andreas where we should ask the check? | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | Chubby: it looks out of place there. But that was the suggested method. | 17:21 |
| matjazp | maybe we should have finer grained tasks in the gate? one for labs, other for slides? | 17:22 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: well he did review the patch and +1 it in the job for slides. But pranav again asked for a seperate job | 17:22 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: yes I feel the same | 17:22 |
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| sayalilunkad | Is Andreas around? | 17:22 |
| Chubby | I mean why we need to create new entry, we can work it by adding it to slides | 17:22 |
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| rluethi | well, we can always change it later. just be sure to add comments explaining why the current solution looks like this, so later generations have the information to determine whether they can change the setup. | 17:23 |
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| sayalilunkad | But do we merge it in the job for slides for now? | 17:24 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: fine with me. it will work, just look a bit odd. all I care about is that we document things that are not obvious. | 17:25 |
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| sayalilunkad | #action change bashate job to merge with slides also add document stating reason to do that. patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164534/3/tox.ini | 17:27 |
| matjazp | we could also merge as is (separate task) and add this as another gate check ("labs")? so we can have slides and lab jobs? | 17:27 |
| Chubby | rleuthi: okay, I will add comments. | 17:27 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: for now, what I understand is Andreas is against doing that. | 17:28 |
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| rluethi | Chubby: thanks. | 17:28 |
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| rluethi | Chubby: comments are cheap, they don't slow things down, so take all the space you need :-). | 17:28 |
| sayalilunkad | We can discuss with him and then do that. | 17:28 |
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| Chubby | rluethi: I will fill them up completely :) | 17:30 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: About the heat patch, sorry I missed your review on it! I will update it as per the comments. | 17:30 |
| matjazp | well he has a point... more separate jobs means more infra pressure. | 17:30 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: yes, exactly why. | 17:30 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: I think till we *really* don't need it we can keep it the same. | 17:31 |
| sayalilunkad | This patch here for osbash on windows: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172630/ | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | needs testing | 17:32 |
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| sayalilunkad | So anybody with windows machines can please do the honor. ;) | 17:32 |
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| Chubby | I have windows | 17:33 |
| Chubby | I will do it | 17:33 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: apparently, these rare machines are very hard to come by. | 17:33 |
| rluethi | thanks, Chubby. | 17:33 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: I'm glad they are ;) | 17:33 |
| Chubby | your welcome :) | 17:34 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: I wish they were :-). | 17:34 |
| matjazp | rluethi: everything has it's place under the sun :) | 17:34 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: doesn't mean I have to be happy about it. | 17:34 |
| sayalilunkad | so, any other patches that need attention? | 17:34 |
| matjazp | rluethi: hey, MS is at least trying lately to be more opensource friendly, so kudos for that | 17:35 |
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| rluethi | not urgent, but this patch will need testing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170731/ | 17:35 |
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| sayalilunkad | ok sure, will do it soon. | 17:36 |
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| sayalilunkad | Moving on, for the next topic ie automation status I think we will need pranav so should we keep it for next time? | 17:37 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: unless somebody else wants to fill in?! | 17:37 |
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| sayalilunkad | sure | 17:38 |
| sayalilunkad | #topic automation status | 17:38 |
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| rluethi | thought so. nobody. next :-). | 17:38 |
| sayalilunkad | #topic videos | 17:39 |
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| sayalilunkad | The osbash on windows video needs to be added to the official channel but that can be done by pranav as it is linked to his youtube account | 17:39 |
| sayalilunkad | I will put an action for that | 17:40 |
| sayalilunkad | #action Pranav needs to adds osbash on windows video to youtube channel | 17:40 |
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| sayalilunkad | I will be making 2 videos by EOM. Osbash on OS X and the ones for test scripts | 17:41 |
| matjazp | should we have a "public" acccount for that? | 17:41 |
| matjazp | one that is not linked to anyone? | 17:41 |
| matjazp | how do other groups manage shared passwords/accounts? | 17:42 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: well it has to be linked to a google account. I'm not sure how we can create a public account. | 17:42 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: we could ask reed | 17:42 |
| matjazp | openstack-training-guides@gmail.com ;) | 17:42 |
| sayalilunkad | reed: ping | 17:42 |
| matjazp | maybe fondation has one already? | 17:43 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: foundation has one but last time we asked they said it would be better to keep it seperate for now. | 17:43 |
| matjazp | discuss at next meeting? | 17:45 |
| sayalilunkad | #action Discuss about creating common account for AV videos | 17:45 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: yep. | 17:45 |
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| sayalilunkad | #action Summit session | 17:45 |
| sayalilunkad | #undo | 17:45 |
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| sayalilunkad | #topic Summit session | 17:45 |
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| sayalilunkad | For this topic, we were to discuss about the summit session so we would need to discuss with the upstream guys as well | 17:46 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: will you be at the summit? | 17:47 |
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| sayalilunkad | ok, I think we will have to push this too to the next meeting. | 17:50 |
| sayalilunkad | #topic any other business | 17:50 |
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| sayalilunkad | Anything else anybody wants to discuss? | 17:51 |
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| rluethi | I'm good. | 17:51 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: I will be adding ceilometer as well to osbash, just to cover all the core services. | 17:51 |
| sayalilunkad | So I was thinking if we should make an option to enable/disable these services. | 17:52 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: excellent! I've been waiting for that. | 17:52 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: shall be done then :) | 17:52 |
| matjazp | what is the memory requirements for all that? | 17:53 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: people can just comment out the services in the config file. it doesn't get much easier than that. | 17:53 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: yep. By default we can keep them disabled. | 17:53 |
| sayalilunkad | heat and ceilometer. | 17:53 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: It will run on the existing configuration for osbash. | 17:53 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: If they are disabled by default, then they are not tested by default. I guess we could make a separate configuration file. | 17:54 |
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| matjazp | regarding summit: still not sure if I can attend :/ some issues with funding&other stuff | 17:54 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: scripts.cluster and scripts.cluster_all or something. | 17:54 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: that might get a little confusing. | 17:55 |
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| matjazp | all these services in 4GB? | 17:55 |
| rluethi | matjazp: those services shouldn't take much RAM. | 17:56 |
| sayalilunkad | 2.5 GB as of now | 17:56 |
| sayalilunkad | As in 1GB controller, 1GB compute and 512 MB network node. | 17:56 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: Just that compute cannot launch more that one instance | 17:56 |
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| sayalilunkad | So we could make that a little more if we want to test heat and stuff. | 17:57 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: yup, for more instances we would need more RAM on compute. | 17:57 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: let's find out how we can manage several configs in parallel. | 17:58 |
| rluethi | time's almost up. | 17:58 |
| matjazp | rluethi: hmm.. installed services and "running and working not too slow" are not the same | 17:58 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: yeah, so I will test launching a normal instance and a heat stack and get back with how much we need to increase it by. | 17:58 |
| rluethi | matjazp: true. are there complaints? is it slow for you? | 17:58 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: yes we need to do that. I will shoot an email to plan for that discussion. | 17:59 |
| matjazp | I'm just thinking out loud... I had some perf issues with devstack | 17:59 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| sayalilunkad | ok time is almost up | 18:00 |
| sayalilunkad | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| rluethi | no, it is. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 18:00:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-13-17.01.html | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-13-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-13-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
| rluethi | good job. bye, everyone. | 18:00 |
| sayalilunkad | bye! | 18:00 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 20:01:13 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:01 |
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| sdake | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:01 | |
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| sdake | hey folks :) | 20:01 |
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| rhallisey | hello | 20:01 |
| daneyon | hi | 20:01 |
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| sdake | jpeeler slower samyaple around? | 20:01 |
| Slower | yea | 20:01 |
| Slower | o/ | 20:02 |
| jpeeler | hi | 20:02 |
| sdake | #topic kilo 4 planning | 20:02 |
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| sdake | for kilo 4 (April 25th), our goals are all the basic services + ha | 20:03 |
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| sdake | I'm unclear if we will actually be able to deliver all that :) | 20:03 |
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| sdake | lets talk about the basic services first | 20:03 |
| daneyon | i think it will be a strech | 20:03 |
| sdake | neutron | 20:03 |
| sdake | daneyon can you give us a status update | 20:03 |
| daneyon | neutron server and agents have been merged | 20:04 |
| daneyon | agents run in a fat container | 20:04 |
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| daneyon | fat = multiple agents in a single container being managed by supervidord | 20:04 |
| sdake | the issue with thin containers was name spaces needed sharing? | 20:04 |
| daneyon | you need to have multiple NIC's on your vm/machine to run neutron | 20:05 |
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| daneyon | by default, the agents container will use eth1 as the physcial network to bridge to | 20:05 |
| sdake | you need that with nova networking | 20:05 |
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| daneyon | this is the neutron flat network used to assign floating_ip's to instances | 20:05 |
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| daneyon | even without using eth1, you should be able to start neutron-server container, neutron agents-container and spin-up vm's, attach to the linux bridge, get a dhcp address, etc.. | 20:06 |
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| sdake | cool nice work | 20:07 |
| sdake | I want to understand the thin contaniers issue | 20:07 |
| sdake | is it that they need to share namespaces? | 20:07 |
| daneyon | sdake that is correct, however nova-networking uses the flat interface not for floating-ip's, but to have instances communicate on the tenant network acorss compute nodes. Since nova-net use the flat interface for a different purpose, I created a diff param for the neutron flat interface | 20:07 |
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| sdake | which containers need to share namespaces? | 20:08 |
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| daneyon | you can set neutron l3/dhcp agents to use net namespaces. when netns is true, each agent with create a netns for every router and tenant network you create... this allows for overlapping ip's and such | 20:09 |
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| sdake | so l3 and dhcp need to share their network namespaces? | 20:09 |
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| daneyon | to further complicate things, the metadata agent creates a metadata-agent-prxy in the dhcp namespace | 20:10 |
| daneyon | they have their own | 20:10 |
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| sdake | when samyaple is around could you have a dsicussion around which needs sharing and which doesn't | 20:10 |
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| sdake | he is of the opinion nothing needs sharing | 20:10 |
| sdake | his objection is that he can't attach tcpdump to the netns of a vm | 20:11 |
| daneyon | the dhcp ns is shared with the metadata-agent-proxy. the metadata-agent creates a metadata-agent-proxy per dhcp ns. | 20:11 |
| sdake | other then that, he says thin containers work | 20:11 |
| daneyon | sure | 20:11 |
| sdake | so dhcp and metadata-agent-proxy must share a container | 20:11 |
| sdake | another option is --net=container | 20:11 |
| daneyon | yes | 20:11 |
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| sdake | this works like a data container | 20:12 |
| sdake | but seems hacky :) | 20:12 |
| sdake | ok cool thanks | 20:12 |
| sdake | rhallisey cinder progress? | 20:12 |
| daneyon | i have only tested all in one so far | 20:12 |
| rhallisey | I have iscsi running in a container | 20:12 |
| daneyon | next step for me will be to run nova-compute with the neutron agents on a seperate node from the controller containers | 20:13 |
| rhallisey | which was a decent hurdle to get over | 20:13 |
| rhallisey | the api works | 20:13 |
| sdake | ncie | 20:13 |
| rhallisey | have issues with cinder-volume | 20:13 |
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| sdake | which sort of issues | 20:13 |
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| rhallisey | I think it's a config thing | 20:13 |
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| rhallisey | I need to create the cinder-volume group | 20:13 |
| rhallisey | or something.. I forgot what the error was | 20:14 |
| sdake | ya lvm access | 20:14 |
| sdake | you can bindmount /dev/lvm | 20:14 |
| sdake | or it shoudl come in i think automatically | 20:14 |
| rhallisey | ok | 20:14 |
| sdake | docker 1.6.0 iirc can bindmount /dev correctly, dwalsh knows more | 20:14 |
| rhallisey | actually I might be doing that | 20:14 |
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| rhallisey | ya I am mounting /dev/lvm though I don't think I'm using 1.6 | 20:15 |
| sdake | is it a new config option? | 20:15 |
| rhallisey | so that could be the issue | 20:15 |
| sdake | so that leaves swift and ceilometer | 20:15 |
| sdake | Ive been working on a magnum blueprint, but we recently declared it not feasible | 20:16 |
| sdake | (this morning) | 20:16 |
| sdake | so I'm back to kolla full time until end of cycle | 20:16 |
| sdake | I am working on making local registry work well | 20:16 |
| sdake | so people don't have to spend hours uploading/downloding images | 20:16 |
| sdake | a dl of the full iamge set takes me 2 minutes 30 seonds | 20:17 |
| sdake | (tools/pull) | 20:17 |
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| sdake | next I'll take charle's work with ceilometer nand get that going | 20:17 |
| sdake | that will probably take to end of cycle to get reliable | 20:17 |
| sdake | I think for neutron, there is some remaining work | 20:18 |
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| sdake | like tools/start/stop/pull and some kind of conf-neutronnet script like my conf-novanet script | 20:18 |
| daneyon | it would be good to get people to test the currect neutron code | 20:18 |
| sdake | daneyon I am testing | 20:18 |
| daneyon | current | 20:18 |
| sdake | all day and all tomorrow ;) | 20:19 |
| sdake | I'll help pick out the holes in the imp :) | 20:19 |
| sdake | that leaves HA and swift | 20:19 |
| rhallisey | got nothing for HA thus far | 20:19 |
| rhallisey | still messing with cinder | 20:19 |
| sdake | ya finish the job | 20:19 |
| sdake | rhallisey if you can get some of your container work up in reviews that would be good | 20:20 |
| sdake | the ones that work :) | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | I have a WIP for cinder up | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | I'm just updating that on the fly | 20:20 |
| daneyon | sdake i'll start creating the ha spec later tonight or tomorrow | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | anyone can comment on that | 20:20 |
| sdake | sounds good | 20:20 |
| sdake | so lets try to get the spec wrapped up before the 25th | 20:21 |
| daneyon | OK | 20:21 |
| sdake | lets make sure its solid | 20:21 |
| sdake | so lets take our time | 20:21 |
| sdake | and we can crank it out in l1 | 20:21 |
| sdake | we have everything covered but swift | 20:22 |
| sdake | red headed step child i guess ;-) | 20:22 |
| sdake | so sounds like k4 is: | 20:22 |
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| sdake | neutron, ceilometer, cinder, support for local registry | 20:22 |
| sdake | with all tools/* working with neutron and cinder and ceilometer | 20:23 |
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| sdake | sounds good? | 20:23 |
| daneyon | sounds good | 20:23 |
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| sdake | #topic open discussion | 20:23 |
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| sdake | so, the kolla talk is #6 on the popuarity contest of ods :) | 20:24 |
| rhallisey | cool | 20:24 |
| rhallisey | Slower and I will be there | 20:24 |
| sdake | jpeeler? | 20:25 |
| jpeeler | i won't be :/ | 20:25 |
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| sdake | bummer | 20:25 |
| sdake | well rhallisey slower make sure to hit the room early | 20:26 |
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| sdake | if folks could jam through the review queue today that would be great | 20:27 |
| sdake | anyone else have anything to discuss? | 20:27 |
| Slower | sdake: ok | 20:27 |
| rhallisey | nada | 20:28 |
| sdake | ok thanks for coming | 20:28 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 20:28:22 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-13-20.01.html | 20:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-13-20.01.txt | 20:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-13-20.01.log.html | 20:28 |
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| mestery | hi | 20:59 |
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| hichihara | hi | 20:59 |
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| Sukhdev | Hello | 20:59 |
| kevinbenton | /o/ | 20:59 |
| xgerman | o/ | 20:59 |
| mlavalle | Hi | 20:59 |
| vishwanathj | hi | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 20:59 |
| angela-s2 | hi | 20:59 |
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| yamahata | hello | 21:00 |
| jlibosva | hi | 21:00 |
| banix | hi | 21:00 |
| HenryG | \o | 21:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 21:00 |
| blogan | \o? | 21:00 |
| blogan | damn question marks! | 21:00 |
| mestery | blogan: lol | 21:00 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 13 21:00:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:00 |
| mestery | We have a very small agenda | 21:00 |
| mestery | I've likely just jinxed us | 21:00 |
| mestery | Lets get right to it! | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| dougwig | throw a name change into the topic list | 21:01 |
| emagana | hi there! | 21:01 |
| mestery | lol | 21:01 |
| mestery | We cut the RC! | 21:01 |
| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-rc1 | 21:01 |
| xgerman | Hooray! | 21:01 |
| mestery | Please file any bugs you think are RC candidates as "kilo-rc-potential" | 21:01 |
| vishwanathj | congratulations to one and all | 21:01 |
| mestery | Unless we find release critical issues, this will be our Kilo release | 21:01 |
| kevinbenton | so if something is back-portable but not critical, hold off? | 21:02 |
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| salv-orl_ | aloha | 21:02 |
| mestery | In honor of a successful RC, I broke the world release python-neutronclient 2.4.0 ... but only for a few hours. | 21:02 |
| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/python-neutronclient/2.4/2.4.0 | 21:02 |
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| mestery | I continually learn things about releasing client libraries with reach release | 21:02 |
| mestery | The branch plan for the client library is as follows: | 21:02 |
| mestery | #info client library branch plan: 2.3.x: Juno, 2.4.x: Kilo, 2.5.x: Liberty | 21:02 |
| salv-orl_ | mestery: yeah about that I learnt only thing - I should never attempt to do anything like that | 21:02 |
| * mestery nominates salv-orl_ to release the next client library. | 21:03 | |
| mestery | One more announcement | 21:03 |
| mestery | wait for it | 21:03 |
| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060713.html | 21:03 |
| mestery | The mid-cycle coding sprint is in Fort Collins, CO | 21:03 |
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| mestery | Also, we'll have a second coding sprint in Tel Aviv, Israel focused on QoS | 21:03 |
| mestery | Stay tuned for details on that one. | 21:03 |
| * mestery catches his breath | 21:03 | |
| mestery | Any questions? | 21:04 |
| angela-s2 | kevinbenton had one | 21:04 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: Yes | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton | ok, so when is kilo "open for backports" ? | 21:05 |
| kevinbenton | after the official release? | 21:05 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Yes | 21:05 |
| haleyb | has the paint dried yet? :) | 21:05 |
| mestery | haleyb: lol | 21:05 |
| kevinbenton | sounds good | 21:05 |
| armax | haleyb: it depends if we’re trying to paint the sistine chapel | 21:06 |
| dougwig | haleyb: on openstack? does that answer have to be constrained to kilo? | 21:06 |
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| mestery | OK, in the interest of keeping this short, lets move on. | 21:07 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:07 |
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| mestery | enikanorov enikanorov_: Hi! Are you around? | 21:07 |
| mestery | And if not, does anyone else have any bugs they want the broader team to be aware of today? | 21:07 |
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| * mestery is still dazed and confused from the RC a bit. | 21:07 | |
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| mestery | OK, lets move right along then, again, in the interst of keeping this short. | 21:08 |
| mestery | #topic Design Summit | 21:09 |
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| mestery | Now that we're (almost) out of the Kilo business, it's time to think about Liberty | 21:09 |
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| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 21:09 |
| mestery | Some great ideas on there | 21:09 |
| mestery | Over the next few weeks, we'll be finalizing the agenda for Vancouver. | 21:09 |
| mlavalle | mestery: is there a deadline to submit ideas to the etherpad | 21:10 |
| mlavalle | ? | 21:10 |
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| mestery | mlavalle: Not a firm deadline, I'd say by next week we should have the ideas on there. | 21:10 |
| mestery | mlavalle: We already have a lot of fun things on there :) | 21:10 |
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| blogan | mestery: *aas topics should go in here too? | 21:10 |
| yamahata | how about LT? | 21:10 |
| mestery | blogan: Yes sir! | 21:10 |
| mestery | yamahata: LT? | 21:10 |
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| yamahata | Lightening talk | 21:11 |
| kevinbenton | yamahata: at the bottom | 21:11 |
| mestery | thanks kevinbenton | 21:11 |
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| yamahata | I mean dead line for applying lighting talk. | 21:11 |
| mestery | Yes, Lightning Talks are at the bottom | 21:11 |
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| mestery | yamahata: Lets go with the same. If we have more lightning talks than slots we'll vote again like we did for Paris | 21:11 |
| yamahata | mestery: I see. thanks | 21:12 |
| mestery | Do people have any other questions on the Design Summit at this point? | 21:12 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: how much happens concurrently? | 21:12 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: A lot ;) | 21:12 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Tuesday is cross project and ops sessions | 21:13 |
| mestery | Wed/Thur are sessions for everyting else | 21:13 |
| mestery | For those remaining Friday, there will be space for collaboration | 21:13 |
| mestery | e.g. coding sprints | 21:13 |
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| mestery | Also, the conference runs concurrently and goes Mon-Thur | 21:13 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: what i meant is, out of the allocated slots for neutron, do any happen simultaneously? | 21:13 |
| salv-orl_ | I think however we should probably do *only* ligthning talks, so everybody will have a chance to share their ideas and proposals | 21:13 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: No, neutron sessions are all serial | 21:13 |
| kevinbenton | cool | 21:14 |
| dougwig | as long as kevinbenton does his code review talk, all will be right in the world. | 21:14 |
| mestery | salv-orl_: That's an interesting idea. 16*5 = 90 lighning talks! | 21:14 |
| mestery | With no breaks in between! | 21:14 |
| salv-orl_ | because that's what the design summit is about, isn'it? "Design" is not really a thing we really want to do | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i thought we saved design desicions until a week before the release? | 21:15 |
| mestery | kevinbenton salv-orl_: That's what the RC is for. | 21:15 |
| dougwig | no, no, design decisions stay in the private "cores only" IRC channel. | 21:15 |
| dougwig | and hey lurkers, THAT WAS A F**KING JOKE. | 21:15 |
| mestery | lol | 21:16 |
| mlavalle | Lol | 21:16 |
| salv-orl_ | also somebody stole wihite on red background from the etherpad. Thas was MY color | 21:16 |
| mestery | So, just to remind folks: | 21:16 |
| emagana | Action Item - Hack the :core only" IRC | 21:16 |
| mestery | We have 7 "fishbowl sessions", and 9 "working group sessions" | 21:16 |
| mestery | 200 people in fishbowl, 20-40 in working groups | 21:16 |
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| salv-orl_ | dougwig: core only? There are a lot of circles within circles ;) | 21:17 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: i didn't steal it, i used a slightly different shade of red :) | 21:17 |
| rkukura | mestery: If we don’t have concurrent working group sessions, where will everyone go during these? | 21:17 |
| xgerman | sight seeing? | 21:17 |
| dougwig | i wonder how long until the TC sends a subpeona to my house now. | 21:17 |
| neiljerram | So do working group sessions require invitation or sign up (to manage the numbers)? | 21:17 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orl_: there, you can have your color :) | 21:18 |
| mestery | rkukura: We have 2 slots with no overlap, ideally people will go to the QA and nova overlap sessions I'm planning | 21:18 |
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| salv-orl_ | mestery: I am serious this time. Pick release priorities before the summit, and assign a working group session to each of them | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | dougwig: I'm filling out the paperwork now | 21:18 |
| mestery | neiljerram: Working group sessions will ahve boring names to discourage casual entrants | 21:18 |
| neiljerram | Boring and cryptic? | 21:18 |
| salv-orl_ | so we can establish "workling group" of people that will take care of that work item throughou the release cycle | 21:18 |
| kevinbenton | is there a session on nova/neutron communication? | 21:18 |
| mestery | salv-orl_: I am too! We need to do that, we tried in Paris, lets do it again this time. | 21:18 |
| mestery | salv-orl_: Makes sense. | 21:18 |
| salv-orl_ | mestery: for the 7 fishbowl sessions... I believe that's showtime | 21:18 |
| mestery | salv-orl_: Awesome | 21:19 |
| neiljerram | As a newbie, it's going to be fun to try to navigate all this... | 21:20 |
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| mestery | neiljerram: Lots of folks willing to help you out I bet :) | 21:20 |
| blogan | takes a lot of focus | 21:20 |
| blogan | and caffeine | 21:20 |
| mestery | OK, lets move on, we're almost done I suspect | 21:21 |
| salv-orl_ | mestery: the trick is to have a room where the session name is also a buzzowrd like "NFV-aas WAN EDGE" | 21:21 |
| watanabe_isao | mestery, may I ask a question about etherpad? | 21:21 |
| neiljerram | Thanks :) | 21:21 |
| watanabe_isao | I am not able to be in Vancouver. But I have put an idea there. Should I delete it? | 21:21 |
| mestery | salv-orl_: We discussed the "NFV Docker" honeypot room | 21:21 |
| mestery | It's a valid concept | 21:21 |
| mestery | watanabe_isao: No, it's fine to leave it there for now, but it's up to you. | 21:21 |
| salv-orl_ | and then have just a projector showing "battleship potemkin" over and over | 21:21 |
| xgerman | lol | 21:21 |
| salv-orl_ | and no coffee in the room | 21:21 |
| watanabe_isao | mestery, thanks. | 21:21 |
| neiljerram | That so works. | 21:21 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:21 |
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| kevinbenton | what is battleship potemkin? | 21:22 |
| mestery | We may finish this is record time! | 21:22 |
| emagana | mestery: I want to share something about Docs! | 21:22 |
| mestery | A smooth RC is to blame really :) | 21:22 |
| mestery | emagana: Please do! | 21:22 |
| neiljerram | kevinbenton: A film by Sergei Eisenstein? | 21:22 |
| banix | kevinbenton: it has to do with pumkin | 21:22 |
| emagana | So, we are organizing the Networking Guide Doc Day! | 21:22 |
| mestery | emagana: Cool! | 21:23 |
| salv-orl_ | kevinbenton: Considering your employer, I think you might be fired for not knowing that movie | 21:23 |
| emagana | It will be next week on April 23rd 2015 | 21:23 |
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| mestery | #info Networking Guide Day April 23, 2015 | 21:23 |
| emagana | Etherpad will be use to coordinate who will be doing what. | 21:23 |
| emagana | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-guide | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | #info markmcclain will off the grid Apr 17-28th | 21:24 |
| emagana | The Networking Guide ToC Wiki explains the process to do patches: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NetworkingGuide/TOC | 21:24 |
| emagana | Our wiki has been update with all the details. All docs are now in .RST which makes easier to contribute.. please plan to attend it. | 21:25 |
| emagana | I will coordinate to have an IRC channel for the work.. but probably will make sense to use the current #openstack-doc one | 21:26 |
| mestery | #info markmcclain's wedding is April 18. | 21:26 |
| mestery | Early congrats markmcclain :) | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks! | 21:26 |
| emagana | A lot of the work has been already completed but we need people to review it and provide feedback and open bugs if needed | 21:26 |
| blogan | congrats markmcclain! | 21:26 |
| xgerman | congrats! | 21:26 |
| dougwig | markmcclain: congrats. | 21:26 |
| * mestery thinks we should save markmcclain some DB related bugs for post-honeymoon | 21:27 | |
| blogan | or crash his honeymoon with a coding sprint | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | blogan, xgerman, dougwig: thanks | 21:27 |
| emagana | blogan: +1 | 21:27 |
| mestery | lol | 21:27 |
| dougwig | lbaasv2 during his honeymoon. | 21:27 |
| dougwig | v3 | 21:27 |
| mestery | v4! | 21:27 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:27 |
| emagana | markmcclain: My best wishes! | 21:27 |
| mestery | dougwig: See what I did there? | 21:27 |
| blogan | bourbon + beach! | 21:27 |
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| markmcclain | blogan: haha… the place does have free drinks | 21:28 |
| vishwanathj | mestery, is there a link that lists all kilo-rc-potential bugs/patchsets, Thanks | 21:28 |
| marun | congrats! | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | markmcclain: best wishes! | 21:28 |
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| mestery | vishwanathj: Yes, there should be, looking | 21:28 |
| carl_baldwin | +1 Congratulations | 21:28 |
| mestery | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=kilo-rc-potential | 21:29 |
| mestery | vishwanathj: ^^^ | 21:29 |
| mestery | OK, if there's nothing else, lets wrap this up. | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | emagana, marun, mlavalle, carl_baldwin: thanks | 21:29 |
| mestery | Thanks again to all for the awesome work in Kilo! | 21:29 |
| vishwanathj | mestery, thanks | 21:29 |
| vishwanathj | markmcclain, congratulations and all the best | 21:29 |
| mestery | See you all in channel and on the ML! | 21:29 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 13 21:30:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-13-21.00.html | 21:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-13-21.00.txt | 21:30 |
| neiljerram | Bye! | 21:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-13-21.00.log.html | 21:30 |
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| xgerman | Bye! | 21:30 |
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| emagana | ciao ciao! | 21:32 |
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