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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 15:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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| ameade | hey | 15:00 |
| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:00 |
| anteaya | ameade: hello | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | ameade: how is your work coming along? | 15:00 |
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| kaisers1 | hi | 15:01 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: hello | 15:01 |
| ameade | anteaya: very well thanks :) | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | ameade: I'm glad to hear that | 15:01 |
| anteaya | ameade: what is your current status? | 15:01 |
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| patrickeast | hi everyone | 15:01 |
| anteaya | patrickeast: hi patrickeast | 15:01 |
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| ameade | anteaya: have been posting on Cinder for most of our drivers for months now but have been setting up another system for our Fibre Channel stuff which has been interesting | 15:02 |
| anteaya | yes, I've been following along | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | which is why I am giving you priority right now at the meeting | 15:03 |
| anteaya | unless you prefer that I don't | 15:03 |
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| ameade | just hanging out incase I can help other folks :) | 15:03 |
| anteaya | oh okay | 15:04 |
| anteaya | that is good too | 15:04 |
| anteaya | welcome | 15:04 |
| anteaya | how is everyone today? | 15:04 |
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| asselin | hi | 15:05 |
| anteaya | hey asselin | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss? | 15:05 |
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| asselin | ameade, I posted our fc cinder testing notes back a few meetings ago | 15:06 |
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| asselin | ameade, where you there? | 15:06 |
| ameade | asselin: I dont think so | 15:06 |
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| ameade | asselin: Do you do one job at a time against an FC switch or have you turned zoning off? | 15:07 |
| asselin | ameade, we have zoning off | 15:07 |
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| ameade | gotcha, i'm currently running one at a time with single concurrency, but to scale i'm going to have to turn it off too | 15:08 |
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| ameade | i do think I found a bug with the synchronization in the brocade code though | 15:08 |
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| asselin | ameade, please share / submit a bug report. we're planning to test with the zone manager eventually | 15:10 |
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| ameade | asselin: yeah definitely, i'm going to dig into it once i get this other hardware setup | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | asselin: thanks for bringing this up | 15:12 |
| anteaya | is there more to discuss here? | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? | 15:13 |
| kaisers1 | quick question regarding a failure i have | 15:13 |
| kaisers1 | pasting, sec | 15:13 |
| asselin | ameade, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-23-15.01.log.html | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | there are no quick questions, just questions | 15:14 |
| asselin | #link my fibre channel cinder notes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-23-15.01.log.html | 15:14 |
| kaisers1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/197567/ | 15:14 |
| kaisers1 | a failure in the cinder tests, | 15:14 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: and let's have a question to go with the paste | 15:15 |
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| kaisers1 | i'm just looking into this. Nova cannot create a floating ip, do i read that correctly? | 15:15 |
| kaisers1 | sorry, not the fastest typing | 15:15 |
| ameade | asselin: perfect, thank you...I am gonna have to automate the PCI passthrough stuff soon | 15:15 |
| asselin | kaisers1, this test is failing for us too. I disabled it and didn't look into it yet. test_minimum_basic_scenario | 15:15 |
| kaisers1 | asselin: oh, ok | 15:15 |
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| krtaylor | hi everybody, sorry I am late | 15:16 |
| asselin | ameade, FYI there could be a better way to do it directly via nova pci passthrough. | 15:16 |
| kaisers1 | asselin: what kind of disabling do you use? don't want to clash with thingees requirements... | 15:16 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: I get one hit returned on that error: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/dev/23837 | 15:16 |
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| kaisers1 | anteaya: thanks for the hint! | 15:16 |
| asselin | kaisers1, I use regex exclusions. | 15:16 |
| kaisers1 | asselin: that allowed after fridays email? :) | 15:16 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: so it looks like a timing issue | 15:17 |
| kaisers1 | s/email/emails/ | 15:17 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: do you have a link to the email you reference? | 15:17 |
| asselin | kaisers1, I'm not too concerned with thingee's requirements. There are bugs that need to get fixed. | 15:17 |
| kaisers1 | ok, thanks for the feedback :) | 15:17 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: it helps if you go to lists.openstack.org and bring one back | 15:17 |
| kaisers1 | ok, sec | 15:17 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:17 |
| rhe00 | asselin: I am using your FC passthrough scripts and it is very reliable. I tried the nova flavor method as well but could not get it to work reliable with nodepool. | 15:17 |
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| rhe00 | reliably | 15:18 |
| kaisers1 | one more thing from last week. The weird ResponseNotReady issue was solved | 15:18 |
| asselin | thingee wants to include all 'volume' tests. We disable those that don't work and investigate them outside of CI. | 15:18 |
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| asselin | rhe00, great to know! | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | asselin: thanks for clarifying | 15:18 |
| anteaya | as some would take your above comment to mean that _they_ don't need to worry about requirements | 15:18 |
| kaisers1 | asselin: ok, will probably go similar | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | which is not the case | 15:19 |
| asselin | kaisers1, it's nice to know other drivers have issues. Likely means its a real bug in the tempest test or cinder itself. | 15:19 |
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| kaisers1 | asselin: I found a bug in tempest on friday :) | 15:19 |
| asselin | kaisers1, and not necessarily the drivers | 15:19 |
| asselin | kaisers1, link? | 15:19 |
| kaisers1 | asselin: that was fixed quickly, sec | 15:20 |
| kaisers1 | link takes a moment, please continue | 15:20 |
| anteaya | I'm waiting on your link for the bug and for the mailing list post | 15:21 |
| anteaya | unless someone else can find and post them first | 15:21 |
| kaisers1 | bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1437328 | 15:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1437328 in tempest "No networks found in fixed_network.py (list index out of range)" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Matthew Treinish (treinish) | 15:21 |
| anteaya | I don't have enough information myself to attempt a search | 15:21 |
| anteaya | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1437328 | 15:21 |
| asselin | ok, the issue I'm running into is: test_volume_upload is causing the jenkins slave to freeze | 15:21 |
| asselin | intermittently | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | asselin: do you have any artifacts to share? | 15:22 |
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| asselin | anteaya, all I have is the nova console log error message: "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s" | 15:22 |
| anteaya | nice | 15:23 |
| ameade | i dont think i've hit these fwiw | 15:23 |
| anteaya | asselin: I don't know as we have been seeing that in infra | 15:23 |
| anteaya | that error message doesn't ring a bell with me | 15:23 |
| anteaya | when did it begin? | 15:24 |
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| asselin | anteaya, it's been around for a while....we used to exclude that test, but now want to run it (obviously) | 15:24 |
| anteaya | that is looking like a linux kernel bug | 15:25 |
| anteaya | #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442920 | 15:25 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 442920 in kernel "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s!" [Low,Closed: insufficient_data] - Assigned to kernel-maint | 15:25 |
| kaisers1 | anteaya: This is the mail link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059990.html . This goes along with some prior discussion regarding tests should not be skipped via regexp. I'm not sure if that was on irc or the mailing list | 15:25 |
| asselin | anteaya, yes likely either on the bare metal or nodepool image..... | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/059990.html | 15:26 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: thank you | 15:26 |
| anteaya | asselin: interesting | 15:26 |
| asselin | anteaya, I'm trying to upgrade the blade's linux kernel to 3.16 (from 3.13) but then fc passthrough breaks | 15:26 |
| anteaya | :( | 15:26 |
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| anteaya | just for the sake of conversation what happens if you downgrade the kernel | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | meaning it is just 3.13 that is causing that error | 15:27 |
| asselin | anteaya, didn't try | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | it might be a dumb idea | 15:27 |
| krtaylor | asselin, unfortunately, that message could be a lot of different problems | 15:28 |
| anteaya | asselin: here is a thread on an ubuntu forjm | 15:28 |
| asselin | anteaya, it's not a dumb idea. It's possible there's a regression in one of the minor release versions | 15:28 |
| anteaya | #link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757773 | 15:28 |
| anteaya | asselin: okay well let me know if you decide to try it | 15:28 |
| anteaya | asselin: you are using ubuntu, yes? | 15:29 |
| asselin | anteaya, yes | 15:29 |
| asselin | krtaylor, you've seen these before? | 15:29 |
| anteaya | asselin: the thread seams to be suggesting a bios upgrade | 15:29 |
| krtaylor | asselin, yes, early on, not in a while | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | asselin: I'm not sure how blades work, would a bios upgrade apply? | 15:29 |
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| asselin | krtaylor, which kernel versions do you use for the bare metal & jenkins slaves? | 15:30 |
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| asselin | anteaya, perhaps I can check to see if there's an update... | 15:30 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, yes, we also saw this with hardware related problems with bringup | 15:30 |
| anteaya | asselin: it might be a first step rather than downgrading the kernel | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | has anyone else seen this issue? | 15:31 |
| krtaylor | asselin, we are not doing bare metal (yet), we run in 1st level guests just like upstream infra | 15:31 |
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| asselin | krtaylor, so who runs the hosts? | 15:31 |
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| krtaylor | asselin, but on our hosts we run a base F20/F21 | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | asselin: let me know when you're done | 15:32 |
| asselin | anteaya, i'm done | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | asselin: okay | 15:33 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: so going back to the mailing list thread, are you one of the people who participated in the conversation? | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | kaisers1: did we lose you? | 15:35 |
| kaisers1 | anteaya: sorry, colleague asked something | 15:35 |
| anteaya | are you one of the folks who participated in the thread? | 15:35 |
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| kaisers1 | anteaya: I did not write but due to the added tests from friday our ci has two failures | 15:35 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:35 |
| anteaya | which failures? | 15:35 |
| kaisers1 | one was the exception i posted earlier | 15:36 |
| anteaya | okay and the other? | 15:36 |
| kaisers1 | a permission issue with runtime snapshots | 15:36 |
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| anteaya | do you have a stack trace handy or no? | 15:36 |
| kaisers1 | That may relate to our driver | 15:36 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:36 |
| kaisers1 | that's why i'm looking into it myself | 15:36 |
| anteaya | well that is good you are running the tests to find that | 15:36 |
| anteaya | okay great | 15:37 |
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| anteaya | so you have a bout 48 hours to get them fixed, yes? | 15:37 |
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| kaisers1 | that's what i think. Although we're still in trunk, our CI was working ok at the deadline, just the new tests are now creating pressure | 15:38 |
| anteaya | yes | 15:38 |
| anteaya | and from what I read you have 48 hours | 15:38 |
| anteaya | are you in a position to meet that deadline? | 15:38 |
| kaisers1 | 04.06., bit more than 48hours? | 15:38 |
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| anteaya | give or take | 15:38 |
| kaisers1 | ok :) | 15:39 |
| anteaya | 5 days before 04/06 | 15:39 |
| anteaya | which is April 1 | 15:39 |
| anteaya | read the email | 15:39 |
| kaisers1 | yep | 15:39 |
| kaisers1 | yes, i did read that | 15:39 |
| anteaya | #info you must have a CI reporting and stable | 15:39 |
| anteaya | for five days prior to 4/6. | 15:39 |
| anteaya | good | 15:39 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: I think that is only for drivers that were pulled because they didn't have a working CI at the deadline | 15:39 |
| anteaya | so stay in communication | 15:39 |
| kaisers1 | yes | 15:39 |
| anteaya | rhe00: correct | 15:39 |
| anteaya | rhe00: that is also how I read that | 15:40 |
| kaisers1 | that's what i gathered, too. Nevertheless i want the failures be fixed asap anyways | 15:40 |
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| anteaya | kaisers1: good attitude | 15:40 |
| asselin | kaisers1, I think we need to get this clarified at the cinder meeting. Personally I think you should be able to have select exclusions with e.g. bug's submitted to track them. | 15:40 |
| anteaya | asselin: good point | 15:40 |
| rhe00 | asselin: +1 | 15:40 |
| anteaya | has someone added an agenda item to the cinder meeting yet? | 15:40 |
| kaisers1 | that would be fine | 15:40 |
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| anteaya | someone needs to drive it for the conversation to happen | 15:41 |
| kaisers1 | yep. My thought was first to write a mail for clarification | 15:42 |
| kaisers1 | Otherwise there will be an agenda bullet added... | 15:42 |
| asselin | I can post to the mailing list & ask in cinder channel. Given the deadline, probably best to do it today. | 15:42 |
| anteaya | asselin: I agree | 15:42 |
| anteaya | asselin: did you want to take an action item on that? | 15:42 |
| asselin | sure. | 15:42 |
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| asselin | also I remember now some disucssions in the cinder channel about it. I'll have to look that up again. I think there were clarifications that didn't make it to the mailing list. | 15:43 |
| anteaya | #action asselin to post to the mailing list and ask in cinder channel to clarify select exclusions for cinder tests if they have bugs tracking them | 15:43 |
| anteaya | asselin: does that sound reasonable? | 15:43 |
| asselin | sure | 15:43 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:43 |
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| anteaya | any more on cinder tests? | 15:44 |
| kaisers1 | i'm done regarding that for today | 15:44 |
| anteaya | kaisers1: thanks | 15:44 |
| anteaya | I appreciate you bringing that up | 15:44 |
| kaisers1 | anteaya: pleasure | 15:44 |
| anteaya | discussing issues before a deadline is much nicer than afterwards | 15:45 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:45 |
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| wznoinsk | hi all | 15:45 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: hello | 15:45 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: did you have anything you would like to discuss? | 15:46 |
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| wznoinsk | is anyone seeing problems with python-eventlet(greenthread) in their CIs when using testr? | 15:46 |
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| krtaylor | wznoinsk, we have in the past, what are you seeing? | 15:46 |
| kaisers1 | wznoinsk: Not currently but saw something like that some time ago | 15:46 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: have you a paste? | 15:46 |
| wznoinsk | started only recently and happens in both containers and baremetal | 15:46 |
| wznoinsk | http://pastebin.com/Dk2x3yMV | 15:47 |
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| wznoinsk | yet, I'm not yet tested whether it's related to our networking on dpdk but looks pretty generic (eventlet/threading like) | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: the error contains a suggestion | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: have you tried evaluating if implementing the suggestion is reasonable? | 15:49 |
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| wznoinsk | I wouldn't be able to change the code (not quickly), if nobody's seen that/similar recently I'll keep diggin myself | 15:49 |
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| krtaylor | wznoinsk, this looks like a race, you are running parallel tests I presume? | 15:49 |
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| anteaya | eventlet is not well liked right now, mostly because of the python2/3 disparity | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: beyond that I haven't personally come across eventlet errors specific to third party cis | 15:50 |
| wznoinsk | krtaylor: yes, parallel tests, but I think the error is happening on the software threads (greenthreads) and (I would imagine) that the same would happen in the productino env | 15:50 |
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| wznoinsk | anteaya: I thought I'd share it here as when I boot vms by hand it's ok, only testr gives me that grieve here | 15:51 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: of course, yes | 15:51 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: always good to share | 15:51 |
| anteaya | boot vms by hand? | 15:52 |
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| wznoinsk | ='nova boot' or horizon | 15:52 |
| anteaya | oh | 15:52 |
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| wznoinsk | thanks for having a look anyways | 15:53 |
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| anteaya | what command are you running that this is part of the output? | 15:53 |
| wznoinsk | testr run tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.test_network_basic_ops | 15:53 |
| anteaya | is is just that test that fails? | 15:54 |
| anteaya | or any test run with testr? | 15:54 |
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| anteaya | have you tried running just one test? | 15:54 |
| wznoinsk | apparently it sometimes passes sometimes failes due to the above error (depending when it actually happens), krtaylor is probably right about some race condition | 15:54 |
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| anteaya | is it the same test that fails everytime? | 15:55 |
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| anteaya | you can run it with until failure to flush out races | 15:55 |
| wznoinsk | happens for any tempest.scenario.test_network_basic_ops.TestNetworkBasicOps.*, I'm about to check other scenario tests | 15:55 |
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| anteaya | #info testr run --parallel --concurrency N --until-failure | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: okay | 15:56 |
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| wznoinsk | I'll give it a go, thanks | 15:56 |
| anteaya | would be good to get a comparison | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | thanks for asking, I hope you find the issue | 15:56 |
| anteaya | anything more here? | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | anyone have anything else? | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | 2 minutes left | 15:57 |
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| anteaya | okay let's wrap up | 15:58 |
| anteaya | thanks everyone | 15:58 |
| kaisers1 | thanks & bye | 15:58 |
| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your <time-of-day> | 15:58 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:58 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 15:58:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-30-15.00.html | 15:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-30-15.00.txt | 15:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-30-15.00.log.html | 15:58 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 16:00:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| sarob | roll call | 16:00 |
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| sarob | opps | 16:00 |
| sarob | opps | 16:00 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 16:00:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-16.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-16.00.txt | 16:00 |
| sarob | sorry | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-16.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| sarob | still getting used to the time change | 16:01 |
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| anteaya | sarob: yup | 16:01 |
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| sayalilunkad | hello | 16:02 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: ?? | 16:03 |
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| sayalilunkad | oops sorry | 16:04 |
| sarob | sayaliilunkad: one more hour :) | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:23 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 16:23:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:23 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:23 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:23 |
| NikolayM | hi ! | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | hi Nikolay | 16:24 |
| akuznetsova | hey | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | hey-hey ) | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | we didn't have any action items since last time so let's report our current status | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (by team member) | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: last week we released Kilo-3 release as planned, most of the week I was preparing to the conference and yesterday I presented Mistral at codefest | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | today I made one patch with small refactoring and discussed further plans with team members | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | guys? | 16:29 |
| akuznetsova | Last week I reviewed commits before release, talked with Timur S (from Merlin team) and filed a few bugs, now I am preparing commit with tests for action-execution | 16:29 |
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| NikolayM | status: last week I fixed all policies and also fixed with-items. Today I sent the patch with LongData in DB. Working on manage-db script, already sent WIP on review | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | cool | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | akuznetsova, could you please report Merlin's status quickly? | 16:30 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, sure | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | I mean "what is its readiness?" | 16:31 |
| akuznetsova | there is one critical for us bug in Merlin | 16:31 |
| akuznetsova | https://bugs.launchpad.net/merlin/+bug/1428768 | 16:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1428768 in Merlin "[Workbook builder] Invalid wb scheme " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Timur Sufiev (tsufiev-x) | 16:32 |
| akuznetsova | now Merlin build invalid yaml wb definition | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | ook | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | so it includes actually several schema problems, right? | 16:33 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, yes | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | as far as I remember Timur told us that pretty soon we'll be able to modify schema ourselves | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | ok, got it | 16:33 |
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| akuznetsova | so, we looked through the current schema and discussed actual problems | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | with Timur? | 16:34 |
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| akuznetsova | yes, part of them are almost fixed | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | ok, great | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Further plans | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, so from my side I just wanted to share further plans quickly | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | our first RC release is now scheduled for Apr 17, three weeks from now | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | we'll be fixing bugs, improving test coverage and documentation | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | we also need to prepare some demos and screencasts | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | our official release is on Apr 30 | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | according to OpenStack Kilo schedule | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | that's probably it | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | so it's now a good time to adjust everything in the project, make some refactoring, etc. etc. what we didn't have time for before | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm also aware a couple of bugs (occur rarely in a couple of tests) that I'll also try to fix | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: file LP bugs for concurrent issues in data flow and join tests | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | guys, any questions or topics from your side? | 16:39 |
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| akuznetsova | nothing from my side | 16:39 |
| NikolayM | none from me | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | let's wrap up then for today | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | thanks guys for coming | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | have a good week! | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 16:40:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-03-30-16.23.html | 16:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-03-30-16.23.txt | 16:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-03-30-16.23.log.html | 16:40 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 17:04:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:04 |
| rluethi | hi all | 17:05 |
| matjazp | hey | 17:05 |
| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:05 |
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| sarob | Hey | 17:05 |
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| Chabbi_ | Hi all | 17:06 |
| matjazp | sarob: connection issues? | 17:07 |
| sarob_ | Yup | 17:07 |
| sarob_ | Sorry | 17:07 |
| dguitarbite | hello | 17:07 |
| matjazp | hi Chabbi_ | 17:08 |
| sayalilunkad | Welcome Chabbi_ | 17:08 |
| sarob_ | Start with automation status? | 17:08 |
| matjazp | yes, let | 17:08 |
| dguitarbite | hello Chabbi_ | 17:08 |
| dguitarbite | sarob_: yes, we can start with it | 17:08 |
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| dguitarbite | I did not see a patch changing to Hieroglyph! | 17:08 |
| dguitarbite | so I did not proceed on this | 17:09 |
| matjazp | dguitarbite: me and reed fixed hiero on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ | 17:09 |
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| matjazp | reed cleared the cruft left from rebasing and we also fixed tox.ini and some other stuff, so gate check is ok now | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | No, that is upstream content | 17:10 |
| reed | mostly matjazp, I only put in bugs :) | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | I am talking about the current associate guides! | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | I thought we were talking about that too, the automation scripts will not work with Landslide format | 17:11 |
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| matjazp | dguitarbite: we will use same infra for both guides, yes? | 17:11 |
| dguitarbite | yes, but that will fail the landslide content by default | 17:11 |
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| dguitarbite | as it will have issues building | 17:11 |
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| matjazp | dguitarbite: reed's upstream builds with hiero.. there are some rendering issues, but that can be fixed later | 17:11 |
| dguitarbite | matjazp: yes, I have tested them :) ... the minor glitches are beyond my scope | 17:12 |
| dguitarbite | matjazp: I was under the impression that one of the slides will get ported to heiroglyph format | 17:12 |
| dguitarbite | if that is not required then I will push the automation tool by end of tomorrow and get the above given patch reviewed | 17:13 |
| sarob_ | Let's merge before all bugs are fixed | 17:13 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob_: I do not understand merge what? | 17:13 |
| sarob_ | The patch above | 17:14 |
| matjazp | yes, please look at upstream patch and if there are no blockers, we should merge, as it will enable us to proceed | 17:14 |
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| sarob_ | Meaning move forward | 17:14 |
| dguitarbite | I am still lost here, the slides are in landslide format IMO | 17:15 |
| dguitarbite | or they have been updated (the associate guide slides) | 17:15 |
| sarob_ | So | 17:15 |
| sarob_ | We update them | 17:15 |
| sarob_ | They are not published publicly yet | 17:16 |
| sarob_ | Anyway | 17:16 |
| dguitarbite | Ok, I will proceed then. | 17:16 |
| sarob_ | Automation | 17:16 |
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| sarob_ | Is the building block | 17:16 |
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| dguitarbite | yes sir, I will push and publish the tools by end of tomorrow, they are ready. I need to refactor the code and make it a bit cleaner :) | 17:17 |
| sarob_ | Sir | 17:17 |
| sarob_ | Whaaat | 17:17 |
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| sarob | Super awesome | 17:18 |
| * dguitarbite ;) | 17:18 | |
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| sarob | I quit my job | 17:18 |
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| dguitarbite | what? | 17:18 |
| sarob | So I have more time now | 17:18 |
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| sarob | Well I just started new one | 17:18 |
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| sarob | All better for my focus here | 17:19 |
| rluethi | sarob: again? are you doing that every week now? | 17:19 |
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| sarob | Every other | 17:19 |
| dguitarbite | I am sorry, I have no clue what is happening :\ | 17:19 |
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| sarob | Everyone is doing it | 17:19 |
| sarob | It's the cool thing to do | 17:19 |
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| * rluethi realizes he's not cool (yet) | 17:20 | |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: so where are you working now? | 17:21 |
| sarob | I'm quit vmware/nicira | 17:21 |
| * dguitarbite I not kool either (may not be ever) | 17:21 | |
| sarob | I'm at dreamhost/Akanda now | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: I never have been with that comparision :( | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: ah congrats | 17:21 |
| sarob | Thx | 17:22 |
| matjazp | sarob: what about the seat on the Board? | 17:22 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: grats | 17:22 |
| sarob | Just need to find an office and employees | 17:22 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: it's a startup? | 17:22 |
| sarob | Matjazp: randy bias takes it up | 17:22 |
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| sarob | Sayalilinkad: yup | 17:23 |
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| sayalilunkad | ah cool! | 17:24 |
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| sarob | This connection is driving me crazy | 17:25 |
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| sarob | I don't have any updates on te landing page | 17:27 |
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| sarob | I'll create a bug to patch the merged slides for hiero | 17:29 |
| sayalilunkad | so as of now we don't have any link to training guides from docs.openstack.org? | 17:29 |
| matjazp | sarob: what bug? | 17:29 |
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| sarob | #action sarob bug to clean up existing RST slide to support hiero | 17:30 |
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| sarob | Sayalilunkand: Nope | 17:30 |
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| sarob | Idea is to use sec guide landing page as start | 17:31 |
| sayalilunkad | that sucks :/ | 17:31 |
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| sarob | We have icehouse landing page | 17:31 |
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| dguitarbite | we have the link working although its not published for Icehouse http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/training-guides/content/ | 17:32 |
| sarob | Hmm, I thought our training page was still on icehouse docs | 17:33 |
| dguitarbite | I cannot find a direct link | 17:33 |
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| sarob | #action sarob patch icehouse docs landing page with training link | 17:34 |
| sarob | I'm sure just an oversight | 17:34 |
| sarob | When the page got rebuilt | 17:34 |
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| sarob | #action sarob create juno training guides landing page patch | 17:35 |
| sarob | I'll rip something together | 17:36 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob: thanks | 17:36 |
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| sarob | Once the automation is running | 17:36 |
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| sarob | We will update the page | 17:37 |
| sayalilunkad | cool | 17:38 |
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| sarob | Any other updates? | 17:39 |
| dguitarbite | Im good. | 17:39 |
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| sayalilunkad | there is one more bullet in the agenda | 17:40 |
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| sarob | Reviews? | 17:40 |
| sayalilunkad | Review AV video for osbash on windows. Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXVCtfKcagY&feature=em-upload_owner | 17:40 |
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| dguitarbite | I will, for sure. | 17:41 |
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| sarob | My connection is poor | 17:42 |
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| sayalilunkad | it doesn not have audio but I think I like it better without audio honestly speaking | 17:42 |
| matjazp | it would be better, if the narrative would be either read or in the "baloon" or something.. I takes too long too watch someone type the narrative.. typing lab commands is ok though | 17:42 |
| rluethi | The video is actually pretty cool. | 17:42 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: one of the attendees from the workshop made it | 17:43 |
| rluethi | Well done. You and that dude. | 17:43 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: point noted, we could do that next time | 17:43 |
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| sarob | Looks good from what I can see | 17:44 |
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| sayalilunkad | cool, so I will upload it to the official channel soon if everyone agrees | 17:45 |
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| sayalilunkad | If you guys could reply to the email with the feedback it would be nice, so even the creator of the video would know what you'll think about it :) | 17:46 |
| sarob | Okay | 17:46 |
| sarob | on the ML right? | 17:46 |
| sayalilunkad | yes | 17:46 |
| sayalilunkad | I did shoot a mail last week | 17:46 |
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| sayalilunkad | about this | 17:46 |
| sarob | #action team respond to ML on video from last week | 17:47 |
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| dguitarbite | sayalilunkad: I am going to review that video, I was on a vacation in India with very poor internet connectivity. | 17:48 |
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| sayalilunkad | dguitarbite: sure, thanks | 17:49 |
| dguitarbite | so I pushed it till I am back where internet is good. | 17:49 |
| sarob | Anything else? | 17:49 |
| dguitarbite | :) | 17:49 |
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| sarob | Give back 10 minutes? | 17:50 |
| rluethi | I'm good. | 17:50 |
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| sarob | Okay | 17:51 |
| sayalilunkad | I'm good too | 17:51 |
| sarob | Let's call this one | 17:51 |
| dguitarbite | ok | 17:51 |
| dguitarbite | bye guys. | 17:51 |
| sarob | Cheers my friends | 17:51 |
| matjazp | bye | 17:51 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
| sayalilunkad | bye | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 17:51:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-17.04.html | 17:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-17.04.txt | 17:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-30-17.04.log.html | 17:52 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 20:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:00 |
| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:00 | |
| daneyon_ | hello | 20:00 |
| jpeeler | hi | 20:00 |
| sdake_ | hey foolks sdake here ;) | 20:00 |
| sdake_ | samyaple around? | 20:01 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey slower? | 20:01 |
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| ccrouch | hiya | 20:02 |
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| rhallisey | hi | 20:02 |
| sdake_ | #topic ansible support in kolla | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ansible support in kolla (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:02 | |
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| sdake_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168637/ | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | Sam has produced an initial patch which brings up mysql/mariadb | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | curious what folks opinions are into expanding our scope to handle deployment as well | 20:04 |
| sdake_ | eg, go a layer up | 20:04 |
| sdake_ | ie rather :) | 20:04 |
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| sdake_ | don't all opine at once | 20:05 |
| jpeeler | somebody had to do it | 20:05 |
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| jpeeler | might as well be us, especially with the way it's being done. it's not a requirement anyway, right? | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | which is not a requirement | 20:06 |
| ccrouch | i don't think we should limit the number orchestration tools people want to layer around the basic containers | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | to use the ansible deployment models? | 20:06 |
| jpeeler | the ansible usage | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | ya its optional | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | ccrouch you think introducing a optional deployment tool limits that number? | 20:06 |
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| jpeeler | right, i think great care should be taken to keep it optional | 20:07 |
| ccrouch | sdake_ : no, i'm +1 | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | my take is it will be optional if and until its the only way kolla is used ;) | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | daneyon rhallisey any thoughts? | 20:08 |
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| Slower_ | do we want to more tightly define the kolla project to only be containers? | 20:08 |
| Slower_ | or do we want to have an optional install along with it.. | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | slower_ that is the question on the table | 20:08 |
| Slower_ | I don't really care, just bringing it up that way | 20:08 |
| ccrouch | sdake_ I'm saying: compose ~ ansible ~ k8s | 20:08 |
| ccrouch | the core team just has to support one model, to validate the containers work | 20:08 |
| Slower_ | right | 20:08 |
| Slower_ | that makes sense | 20:08 |
| Slower_ | it would be helpful for dev | 20:08 |
| ccrouch | and we shouldn't be building stuff into the containers that prevent other tools from being used | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | to really do ha, we need an orchestratoin tool (such as ansible) | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | ccrouch +1 | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | fine with me | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | ok folks well if you are into that review and your a core, just add a +2, and if there is a quorum of +2, I'll +a it | 20:10 |
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| sdake_ | since its a scope expansion | 20:10 |
| daneyon_ | i think the heat template works for dev. | 20:10 |
| ccrouch | sdake_: sure if you want extra QoS for your containers (i.e. HA) then you need a "better" tool than compose | 20:10 |
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| sdake_ | ccrouch compose is good inbetweenansible and raw docker | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | but need something else | 20:10 |
| ccrouch | +1 | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | don't all cast your +2s at once :) | 20:11 |
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| Slower_ | +1 :) | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | I guess we can come back to that - if your in favor of scope expansion please vote on that review | 20:12 |
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| sdake_ | #topic k4 status | 20:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "k4 status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:12 | |
| sdake_ | it looks from the launchpad not much work has been done | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-4 | 20:13 |
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| sdake_ | we have some outstanding blueprints | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | remember deadline is april 30th | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | anyone up for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/swift-container | 20:14 |
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| sdake_ | i'd like storage to be a feature of 2015.1.0 ;) | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | slower you available to take that blueprint? | 20:15 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/cinder-container assigned to you in essentail state - not started | 20:15 |
| Slower | I don't think I can commit to that right now, sorry | 20:15 |
| sdake_ | any progress on that? | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | thanks slower | 20:16 |
| rhallisey | sdake_, haven't started yet | 20:16 |
| * Slower is slow | 20:16 | |
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| rhallisey | I will get around to it this week | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | slower hence the name ;) | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey if you could get cracking on that - that would rock - we need block storage for 2015.1.0 | 20:16 |
| daneyon_ | sdake_updating my M4 bp. Should be accurate in LP in the next 10 min. | 20:17 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey one more essential assigned to you https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/haproxy-container | 20:17 |
| sdake_ | marked not started atm | 20:18 |
| rhallisey | same status.. Ill get around to cinder first | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | cool cinder is definately the priority to tackle first | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | thanks :) | 20:18 |
| rhallisey | sure | 20:18 |
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| sdake_ | somewhere in there we need a working ceilometer | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | there isn't a blueprint for that | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | ccrouch has it working from what I understand | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | ccrouch if you dont have time to git review the patches, please send me a diff and I'll submit them | 20:19 |
| ccrouch | central agent, api and collector | 20:19 |
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| ccrouch | no alarming | 20:19 |
| sdake_ | well send what you have and ill make a blueprint for it | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | or did you want to tackle it? | 20:20 |
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| sdake_ | just to keep in mind priorities for rest of kilo ha > storage > ansible | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | in that order :) | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | #topic continuous integration | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "continuous integration (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:21 | |
| sdake_ | so I had a longchat in #opnestack-infra with the infra team | 20:21 |
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| sdake_ | that led to this review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168598/ | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | infra team wants us to add gates via tox | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | in summary | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | that review does that (incompelte atm, why its marked WIP) | 20:22 |
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| sdake_ | but you will be able to do sudo tox -e functional | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | and bam, out comes the functional results | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | we should probably use nosetests to run the actual test cases | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler you up to taking over that review work? | 20:23 |
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| sdake_ | or want me to finish it off | 20:23 |
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| ccrouch | i thought openstack had dumped nose? | 20:23 |
| jpeeler | i plan on finishing it | 20:23 |
| ccrouch | for testr? | 20:23 |
| jpeeler | and yeah, testr | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | sorry testr | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | same thing imo :) | 20:23 |
| ccrouch | no comment :-) | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler cool will I'd start with my review then | 20:23 |
| sdake_ | so your work is integrated in tox | 20:23 |
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| sdake_ | rather then the pre-commit-hook | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | apparently pre-commit-hook is for git pre-commithook setups | 20:24 |
| sdake_ | not functional testing :) | 20:24 |
| jpeeler | sdake_: i may have some more questions as i get to it | 20:24 |
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| sdake_ | sounds good | 20:24 |
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| sdake_ | #topic open discussion | 20:24 |
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| sdake_ | there are a slew of outstanding patches | 20:25 |
| sdake_ | if folks coudl hit the review queue that would rock :) | 20:25 |
| daneyon_ | i'll def spend time later today on reviews | 20:25 |
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| rhallisey | same | 20:25 |
| sdake_ | how is he kolla on atomic effort going slower | 20:26 |
| rhallisey | sdake_, we got it working | 20:26 |
| rhallisey | like 20min ago | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | should submit a tools/atomic patch :) | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | or tools/start-atomic | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | or something like that | 20:26 |
| rhallisey | ya will do | 20:26 |
| sdake_ | hopefully you used docker --env operation | 20:27 |
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| sdake_ | rather then -e -e -e -e -e -e :) | 20:27 |
| rhallisey | actually with atomic it looks like : atomic install glance | 20:27 |
| rhallisey | and that's it | 20:27 |
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| sdake_ | what about the metadata? | 20:27 |
| rhallisey | we'll push those images soon so you can check em out | 20:27 |
| jpeeler | rhallisey: how big are the images? (just curious) | 20:28 |
| sdake_ | where dot hthe config come from | 20:28 |
| rhallisey | basically the images look like... | 20:28 |
| rhallisey | http://paste.fedoraproject.org/204965/74732614/ | 20:28 |
| rhallisey | config come from one config file | 20:29 |
| sdake_ | how does /etc/openstack.env get into the image? | 20:29 |
| rhallisey | which we setup using heat templates | 20:29 |
| rhallisey | a heat template rather | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | you will need to make a build script I suspect to build those imgaes | 20:30 |
| rhallisey | https://github.com/rthallisey/atomic-osp-installer/blob/master/heat/openstack_deploy.yaml | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | so people don't hae to manually docke rbuild | 20:30 |
| rhallisey | ^ heat template | 20:30 |
| sdake_ | or better yet modify the exsting one | 20:31 |
| rhallisey | right | 20:31 |
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| sdake_ | interesting, not using the docker-compose integration point | 20:31 |
| sdake_ | but that should work for tripleo in the atomic-only cse | 20:32 |
| rhallisey | we we're just testing with atomic | 20:32 |
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| rhallisey | there is also a docker-compose hook | 20:32 |
| rhallisey | you can do either | 20:32 |
| sdake_ | interesting | 20:32 |
| sdake_ | well thats all the open discussion I wanted to have, any other folks have anything to chat about? | 20:33 |
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| sdake_ | ok well then I'll end the meeting | 20:34 |
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| sdake_ | for those lurking on these meetings later, join #kolla ;) | 20:34 |
| jpeeler | sdake_: will the upcoming 1.6 release of docker contain all the fixes that kolla needs? | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | tia | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler it is unclear | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | lk4d4 isn't sure if his stuff will be merged | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | which means docker locking is busted in 1.6 | 20:34 |
| jpeeler | wow, okay | 20:34 |
| rhallisey | :( | 20:34 |
| sdake_ | I think the first version of docker that will work properly is 1.7 | 20:34 |
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| sdake_ | all prior versions will be busted for cmplex environments | 20:35 |
| sdake_ | in other words, starting and stopping more then one container makes docker bust :) | 20:35 |
| sdake_ | docker = rocket science | 20:36 |
| sdake_ | rockets blow up | 20:36 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 20:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 20:36:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-30-20.00.html | 20:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-30-20.00.txt | 20:36 |
| Slower | rocket surgery? | 20:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-30-20.00.log.html | 20:36 |
| rhallisey | thanks | 20:36 |
| Slower | if we're lucky it'll work :) | 20:36 |
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| mestery | yo! | 20:58 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 20:59 |
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| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| HenryG | \o | 21:00 |
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| sweston | \o | 21:00 |
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| emagana | hello all | 21:00 |
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| kevinbenton | hi | 21:01 |
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| armax | hello | 21:01 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 30 21:01:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #info We're in the feature freeze now | 21:01 |
| mestery | Be even more cautious with what you're merging now. | 21:02 |
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| mestery | If a bug isn't marked as RC and you have quesitons, feel free to ping me | 21:02 |
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| mestery | #info RCs: April 9-23 | 21:02 |
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| mestery | We'll circle back to the final 4 BPs which are targeted to the RC later in the meeting. | 21:02 |
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| mestery | OK, lets keep moving, a packed agenda awaits us! | 21:02 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:03 |
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| mestery | enikanorov: Hi! | 21:03 |
| enikanorov | mestery: hi | 21:03 |
| marun | hi | 21:03 |
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| enikanorov | i'd like to mention just one bug now | 21:03 |
| enikanorov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1438321 | 21:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438321 in neutron "Fix process management for neutron-server" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Elena Ezhova (eezhova) | 21:03 |
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| enikanorov | this is an issue that will be introduced if we sync with oslo-incubator | 21:03 |
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| enikanorov | neutron server will not be able to handle signals properly | 21:04 |
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| mestery | enikanorov: Thanks for bringing this one up | 21:04 |
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| enikanorov | moreover, the code around service process management need to be reworked, but for now we just need to take care about how not to break what is working | 21:04 |
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| anteaya | I'm missing something why would you sync with oslo-incubator? | 21:05 |
| dougwig | because we use oslo incubator modules, and sync regularly. | 21:05 |
| enikanorov | anteaya: there are some parts of oslo that are not in a common library yet and are synced | 21:05 |
| mestery | I wanted to bring the two bugs up that are not marked as RC but are targeted there: | 21:06 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1381536 | 21:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1381536 in neutron "ResourceClosedError occurs when neutron API run in parallel" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Eugene Nikanorov (enikanorov) | 21:06 |
| anteaya | oh a module in oslo-incubator | 21:06 |
| anteaya | okay sorry, I mis-understood | 21:06 |
| mestery | This one doesn't appear to be actively worked on at the moment | 21:06 |
| mestery | enikanorov: Are you planning to fix this one in the RC? | 21:06 |
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| enikanorov | mestery: correct, it's better to find someone else | 21:06 |
| enikanorov | to work on it | 21:06 |
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| mestery | enikanorov: Ack, I'll remove you for now, leave it in the RC for a bit and see if I can find someone. Thanks enikanorov! | 21:06 |
| armax | enikanorov: when did we sync with oslo incubator last? | 21:06 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov: do we have some traces in logstash? | 21:06 |
| enikanorov | i might take a look at it, but can't promise | 21:06 |
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| mestery | We also have hte VLAN transparent and MTU cleanups, pritesh and ideas there? | 21:07 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1434667 | 21:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434667 in neutron "VLAN transparent feature cleanup" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to pritesh (pritesh) | 21:07 |
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| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1434671 | 21:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434671 in neutron "MTU advertisement feature cleanup" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Timothy Swanson (tiswanso) | 21:07 |
| pritesh | mestery: i have made some progress on it, will post the patch as soon as i can | 21:07 |
| mestery | We can also discuss this during the bike shedding on APIs later in the meeting if people prefer :) | 21:07 |
| mestery | pritesh: OK, thanks for the update! | 21:08 |
| enikanorov | armax: march 6 apparently | 21:08 |
| mestery | Any other bugs? enikanorov? Anyone? | 21:08 |
| pritesh | mestery: also tim is on the mtu stuff, so he will also be posting a patch soon for it. | 21:08 |
| armax | enikanorov: I see, so just a handful days after that change merged | 21:08 |
| mestery | pritesh: Ack | 21:08 |
| armax | enikanorov: I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156345/ | 21:08 |
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| enikanorov | armax: i'm wrong. the merge is from march,6 but the commmit is feb 27 | 21:09 |
| enikanorov | armax: so the breaking change is not it | 21:09 |
| amotoki | it seems not to be imported yet. | 21:10 |
| armax | enikanorov: so you’re saying that we don’t have a problem, yet? | 21:10 |
| enikanorov | armax: correct | 21:10 |
| armax | enikanorov: at least not until we effectively sync down? | 21:10 |
| enikanorov | armax: exactly | 21:10 |
| armax | (which we shouldn’t now, anyway) | 21:10 |
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| armax | so enikanorov, it makes sense to demote this bug from high to low | 21:11 |
| mestery | armax: And target Liberty-1 as well. | 21:11 |
| sballe | o/ | 21:11 |
| armax | mestery: ya | 21:11 |
| enikanorov | ok, since everyone knows now, I'd agree :) | 21:11 |
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| mestery | :) | 21:11 |
| armax | done | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | armax: what do you mean by "sync down"? | 21:12 |
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| armax | talking about bugs, marun was going to file one that is tracking a breakage of the functional job | 21:12 |
| marun | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1438426 | 21:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438426 in neutron "Functional job setup broken by devstack" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Maru Newby (maru) | 21:12 |
| armax | salv-orlando: down from oslo incubator to neutron | 21:12 |
| marun | should be an easy fix | 21:12 |
| marun | It's a good prompt to start pinning so it doesn't happen so easily | 21:13 |
| armax | that’s the bug I was talking about | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | armax: ah ok... I was looking at it from the neutron side so it was a sync-up for me ;) | 21:13 |
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| mestery | Ha! | 21:13 |
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| mestery | OK, shall we move on to the rest of the agenda now? | 21:13 |
| mestery | Lots of fun awaits! | 21:13 |
| mestery | Lets move on | 21:14 |
| mestery | #topic Docs | 21:14 |
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| emagana | Hello! | 21:14 |
| mestery | emagana: How are the Kilo docs cmoing along? | 21:14 |
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| emagana | mestery: Moving Slow! We wanted to have more people involved on the networking guide | 21:14 |
| mestery | #info Docs team would like more people involved in the networking guide | 21:15 |
| emagana | If anyone is interested to contribute, please contact me! | 21:15 |
| anteaya | emagana: have you considered having a docs sprint? | 21:15 |
| mestery | anteaya: Good idea1 | 21:15 |
| anteaya | emagana: book the sprint irc channel and pick either a 24 hour or 48 window | 21:15 |
| emagana | anteaya: That is a good idea! | 21:15 |
| emagana | Can I ask here how many will be interested? | 21:15 |
| emagana | Or Just over email? | 21:16 |
| anteaya | put togehter an etherpad so that any fool who shows up can be useful and get the high priorities done | 21:16 |
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| anteaya | emagana: pick a date taht works for you and doesn't conflict with anything else major | 21:16 |
| emagana | anteaya: Fine! Will send it out later today! | 21:16 |
| mestery | anteaya: lol, "any fool" | 21:16 |
| mestery | :) | 21:16 |
| anteaya | and post to the email | 21:16 |
| anteaya | at the very leaset you end up doing all the work which is no different than now | 21:16 |
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| anteaya | you might even get some non-neutron folks to help | 21:16 |
| mestery | #action emagana to setup a docs sprint on the ML | 21:17 |
| mestery | emagana: Action item! | 21:17 |
| emagana | anteaya: :-) Docs team is doing the hard work! | 21:17 |
| anteaya | emagana: talk to me after and I'll help you book teh channel | 21:17 |
| anteaya | emagana: tat is what always happens | 21:17 |
| emagana | anteaya: sounds good! | 21:17 |
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| emagana | mestery: Nothing else form my side... but as always I would like to let anyone the opportunity to share about Docs | 21:18 |
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| mestery | emagana: Thank you sir! | 21:18 |
| mestery | OK, lets move on now. 42 minutes left and we have some urgent items to cover. | 21:18 |
| mestery | #topic Kilo-RC1 FF Specs | 21:18 |
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| mestery | Overall, we've done a good job of merging 6 of the 10 FFEs! | 21:18 |
| mestery | I'd like to cover the 4 remiaing in order of difficultty | 21:19 |
| mestery | :) | 21:19 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/restructure-l3-agent | 21:19 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: I think this one has 1 patch left and looks likely to land soon. Thoughts? | 21:19 |
| kevinbenton | so is this the most or least difficult? | 21:19 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: Least | 21:19 |
| HenryG | I'll +2 that shortly, it's basically done | 21:20 |
| mestery | HenryG: My thoughts exactly, I think we can merge the final patch. | 21:20 |
| mestery | See, that one was easy! | 21:20 |
| carl_baldwin | I think this one is doing pretty well. | 21:20 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: It should be in the merge queue soon it looks like | 21:20 |
| mestery | OK next one | 21:20 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipv6-router | 21:20 |
| mestery | HenryG: I think this one looks close too. | 21:20 |
| HenryG | yup | 21:20 |
| mestery | actually | 21:21 |
| mestery | looks like carl_baldwin pushed it into the merge queue, woot! | 21:21 |
| absubram | carl_baldwin: ty for that! :) | 21:21 |
| HenryG | Thanks carl_baldwin ! | 21:21 |
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| mestery | next up | 21:21 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multiple-ipv6-prefixes | 21:21 |
| mestery | HenryG: This one looks much more tenuous | 21:21 |
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| mestery | HenryG: Lots of patches left | 21:21 |
| HenryG | It can be marked as completed, sort of | 21:21 |
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| mestery | lol | 21:21 |
| mestery | Did the main patch merge? | 21:22 |
| HenryG | yes | 21:22 |
| mestery | woot! | 21:22 |
| mestery | HenryG: Followup bugs for the remaining patches? | 21:22 |
| HenryG | There is one other patch that would be nice to have, for "nicer to use" | 21:22 |
| HenryG | But that can also be deferred to L if it is contentious | 21:22 |
| mestery | HenryG: Link? | 21:22 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: I have not reviewed this work... but the follow up patches should do cleanups of smooth issues | 21:23 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: Cool, thanks for hte input! | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | if the follow up patches "complete" the feature by adding nice-to-have things, maybe it's better to defer | 21:23 |
| mestery | HenryG: ^^^^ | 21:23 |
| HenryG | mestery: https://review.openstack.org/156360 | 21:23 |
| amotoki | HenryG: could you update the whiteboard per discussion here? | 21:23 |
| mestery | I would agree with salv-orlando, if hte patches just smooth things then we can be done | 21:23 |
| mestery | amotoki: ++ | 21:23 |
| HenryG | Yes, will update the whiteboard | 21:24 |
| mestery | HenryG: OK, lets followup there, and see about deferring or marking as complete once we review that. Thanks! | 21:24 |
| mestery | And now, the most difficult one left: | 21:24 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/subnet-allocation | 21:24 |
| mestery | This one has spawned the API discussion on the ML | 21:25 |
| mestery | SO, changing subject quick | 21:25 |
| mestery | #topic API Discussion (core vs. extension) | 21:25 |
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| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/060200.html | 21:25 |
| mestery | amotoki: This is your item on the agenda I believe, thanks for starting this discussion | 21:25 |
| dougwig | is this another debate, or can we just apply the policy decided for vlan/mtu and move on? | 21:25 |
| mestery | dougwig: That seems sensible to me to be honest. carl_baldwin amotoki salv-orlando, thoughts? | 21:26 |
| amotoki | mestery: yes. I just replied to the dev list and I am fine with the shim extension and keeping the code as-is. | 21:26 |
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| mestery | carl_baldwin: Sound ok for Kilo? | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | I think that from a "legal" perspective we should not add anything to core until a process for evolving the core has been approved | 21:27 |
| carl_baldwin | My hands are busy at the moment. Could someone summarize the vlan/mtu resulotion? | 21:27 |
| amotoki | I can work with the empty/shim extension. | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | on the practical perspective, I believe that with a bit of common sense it should be easy to realize that subnetpools should be core | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | but then if someone brings the arguments like - why subnetpools and not mut? | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | sorry mtu | 21:27 |
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| salv-orlando | then I'd say... subnetpools should an extension too. period. | 21:28 |
| mestery | I'm all for being practical to be honest | 21:28 |
| mestery | I know hte authors of subnet pools have put in a lot of hard work | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | I think we might need a bi-weekly Neutron dev status that has ongoing feature development. Way to many people were surprised by too many things at the end of this cycle... | 21:28 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Next cycle, I plan to -2 all API changes in specs, that shoudl make things easier ;) | 21:28 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: that works too | 21:28 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: I jest of course | 21:28 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: But you riase a good point | 21:29 |
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| mestery | But lets focus back on subnet pools now | 21:29 |
| mestery | It's the issue at hand | 21:29 |
| dougwig | mestery: too close to truth for a funny. :) | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: because there are many moving parts it's natural. For instance a guy optimized subnet show and did not realize he probably screwed subnet-list ;) | 21:29 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: yeah I think that's the best decision | 21:29 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: Wait, waht was the best decision? | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | the API will not change anymore, forever and ever. | 21:30 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: lol | 21:30 |
| mestery | Seriously, amotoki has proposed the empty extension for this. carl_baldwin salv-orlando are you both ok with this? | 21:30 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: the celebrations have started | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | I think when we'll be in Vancouver you should go on whistler mountain, and then come back with the neutron API carved in stone | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: I am fine | 21:31 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Do I need a bear and some flowing robes? | 21:31 |
| anteaya | it is a nice drive | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | it will just be a lisp interpreter | 21:31 |
| mestery | beard | 21:31 |
| mestery | although a bear would be funnier | 21:31 |
| amotoki | as far as I looked the code, it is better to keep the main code as-is at this stage of dev cycle. | 21:31 |
| anteaya | bears too | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: haha | 21:31 |
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| sc68cal | I bring you 15...... crash... 10 neutron core APIs | 21:32 |
| mestery | OK, so lets move forward with that approach | 21:32 |
| mestery | #info Add emptoy extension for subnet pools per amotoki's suggestion and move forward with this in Kilo | 21:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | I am okay with amotoki’s proposal | 21:32 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: Thanks! | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | cool, I will then resume the spec on "unifying" the core and exposing "features", and we'll move the discussion there | 21:33 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Yay! | 21:33 |
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| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:33 |
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| mestery | That went much faster than I thought. | 21:33 |
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| salv-orlando | there won't be any summit session on this - mostly because I hope we've now realized how pointless those sessions are | 21:33 |
| mestery | So, Open Discussion! | 21:33 |
| mestery | lol | 21:33 |
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| kevinbenton | service chaining + naming the core/maintainers | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | more seriously, i'm wondering if there is a way we can move forward with ebtables | 21:34 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: For Kilo? It seems unlikely at this stage of hte release | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | get the necessary config options and dependency stuff merged | 21:34 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: For Liberty? Yes! Lets do it early! | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | but have it disabled | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: what use would be that? ;) | 21:35 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Seriously, at this stage I don't think we should add ebtables back in. But for Liberty, yes, lets do it! | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | then the 'fixes' (i.e. the functionality) can be back-ported | 21:35 |
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| mestery | Did everyone see my email about proposing specs for Liberty that were proposed for Kilo but fialed to land code? | 21:36 |
| mestery | It's an expedited procedure | 21:36 |
| mestery | So, lets make use of it! | 21:36 |
| pc_m | Can we talk about whether https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164466/ et al should go into the RC or defer to L? Have heard arguments on each side. | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: yes saw that. | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | right, but it just means as of Kilo, neutron shared networks can't be used :( | 21:36 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: I don't know how we can realistically land this at this stage | 21:37 |
| mestery | I think we'll look to cut the RC next week, we're that close to the end. | 21:37 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: what do you mean by shared networks can't be used? | 21:37 |
| * mestery says in an ominous voice | 21:37 | |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: do you reckon that we should consider merging that blueprint and deal with the concerns around its impl in Liberty? | 21:37 |
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| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: arp poisoning will still work just fine | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: so basically if you have two tenants, they have to have complete trust in each other | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: if they are on the same network | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: everyone needs their poison. I get scotch, shared networks get ARP | 21:38 |
| Sukhdev | salv-orlando :-) | 21:38 |
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| amotoki | kevinbenton: is it related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034 ? | 21:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1274034 in neutron "Neutron firewall anti-spoofing does not prevent ARP poisoning" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Juergen Brendel (jbrendel) | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: yep | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: what's your opiniopn about merging the current code? | 21:39 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: Thanks for clarification | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: unfortunately iptables can't help, so an entire new filtering stack had to be integrated | 21:39 |
| dougwig | maybe it's just me, but i don't see "shared" networks as being unusable if they're, umm, shared. | 21:39 |
| ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, the change is too large | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: actually nova has been getting by fine with it for a long time | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: because they have protection against this | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: the whole chain is too big for this cycle | 21:40 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Which ones do you think we can land this cycle yet? | 21:40 |
| amotoki | it has been open for multiple cycles and we need to focus on closing it... but the change is not small... | 21:40 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: The framework pieces? | 21:40 |
| dougwig | is this something that helps with using provider vlan's as the replacement for the nova-net vlan model, then? | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i was suggesting shipping all of the non-backportable components | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | ZZelle_, kevinbenton: I however do not see how we can have somehting fully functional without the whole chain | 21:40 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yes, i was (gasp!) suggesting shipping a broken/disabled feature | 21:40 |
| ZZelle_ | salv-orlando, kevinbenton, the integration with neutron code is small so it can be merged in Lemmings and backport in Kilo | 21:41 |
| ZZelle_ | s/backport/backported/ | 21:41 |
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| kevinbenton | ZZelle_: so there are a few things that can't backport like dependencies and config options | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | not certain that's precedent we want to revive | 21:41 |
| ZZelle_ | kevinbenton, oups | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | that's why i was thinking we could push them this cycle | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I understand that the security concern might grant an exception to bring in more technical debt. | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | but I've spoke with markmcclain and marun before and I also understand their point | 21:42 |
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| salv-orlando | which markmcclain has brought up ;) | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, i suspect we will have to let it slide... | 21:42 |
| marun | kevinbenton: so l2pop wasn't a solution in the end? | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | I will continue attempting to hack L2pop to eat these bad ARP requests to see if their is some kind of bandaid we can shit | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | ship* | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | whoops | 21:43 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: lol | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | kevinbenton: haha | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | It's a fine balance. I slightly tend to favour deferral, also because at the end of the day this was not perceived as a priority from operators, was it? | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | where is the '#strikefromlog' action | 21:43 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Your autocrrect knows you too well ;) | 21:43 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: that was intentional, at least if you have a qerty keyboard ;) | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | ok, i'm going to stop wasting open discussion time. i was just making one last grasp at straws | 21:44 |
| dougwig | he might just have a really filthy auto-correct db | 21:44 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Thank you for caring :) | 21:45 |
| kevinbenton | i will report results on l2pop hacking later | 21:45 |
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| mestery | #info kevinbenton to report details on l2pop hacking to avoid arp poisoning | 21:45 |
| mestery | Any other bikes to paint or yaks to shave today? | 21:45 |
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| ZZelle_ | speeking of security, is it possible for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1427228 to go into the RC? As it improves metadata proxy security (when enabled) | 21:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1427228 in neutron "Allow to run neutron-ns-metadata-proxy as nobody" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Cedric Brandily (cbrandily) | 21:45 |
| sc68cal | mestery: how about linux bridge as the default for devstack | 21:45 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: it doesn't work as your patch shows! | 21:46 |
| mestery | sc68cal: We need to fix it, likely in liberty unless the fixes are simple | 21:46 |
| mestery | ZZelle_: Done! | 21:46 |
| pc_m | mestery: Should https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164466/ go into RC or defer to Liberty? Heard mixed suggestions from cores. If we do now, there will be one mech for Kilo. If we defer, there will be two. | 21:46 |
| dougwig | i know that devstack is pushing LB as the default. are we all in favor of that as well? i'm not sure i would've learned OVS if it wasn't shoved in front of me by default. | 21:46 |
| ZZelle_ | mestery, great | 21:46 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: heh | 21:47 |
| sc68cal | I think the main point is that we're trying to boil the frog | 21:47 |
| mestery | pc_m: Looks like amotoki and HenryG are on board with it | 21:47 |
| dougwig | plus, wouldn't that make the install guide and default devstack differ? | 21:47 |
| sc68cal | on the holdouts to neutron | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: rather than asking why linux bridge, I wonder why not OVS? | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | when did OVS become evil? | 21:47 |
| pc_m | mestery: OK. | 21:47 |
| mestery | sc68cal: AGreed, but given we're in the FF, I don't know what we can do around LB at this point. | 21:47 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: oh can we not have that conversation now | 21:47 |
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| sc68cal | anteaya: yes, sorry :( | 21:47 |
| anteaya | I see 15 minutes of my life wanting me back | 21:47 |
| mestery | sc68cal: I agree wwe should get LB up to speed, but the timing is bad now :( | 21:47 |
| mestery | sc68cal: FF and all, RC branch cutting, etc. | 21:47 |
| dougwig | anteaya: lol | 21:47 |
| dougwig | salv-orlando: agree | 21:47 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Hoepfully the patches are easily backportable | 21:47 |
| HenryG | mestery: But pc_m's patch must be followed by a couple more patches to be complete. | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | can someone give a quick summary? is it that devstack wants to default to linux bridge and we let the bridge rust for the past two cycles? | 21:48 |
| mestery | HenryG: I marked the bug as RC1 so we can track it | 21:48 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: yes | 21:48 |
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| dougwig | kevinbenton: aye. the contention is that OVS is "too hard" for new users/users of nova-net. | 21:48 |
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| mestery | good summary there for not knowing hte issue | 21:48 |
| pc_m | HenryG: Two, one is trivial, the other is also very simple. | 21:49 |
| sc68cal | kevinbenton: sdague had a decent e-mail on the list laying out the reasoning | 21:49 |
| sc68cal | i'll grab link | 21:49 |
| HenryG | mestery: thanks. It's just leg work, and convincing armax :) | 21:49 |
| mestery | HenryG: Let me work on armax | 21:49 |
| sc68cal | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/060071.html | 21:49 |
| armax | HenryG: everyone has a price | 21:49 |
| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-March/060071.html | 21:49 |
| kevinbenton | it is a little concerning that the default will be an untested chunk of code... but i suspect I'm rewalking an already made argument here | 21:50 |
| banix | as soon as we switch to LB we will be asked about nova-net parity! | 21:50 |
| mestery | OK lets close thise one out | 21:50 |
| amotoki | btw, how about neutronclient release? When is it scheduled? after merging RC1 BPs? | 21:50 |
| anteaya | mestery: ++ | 21:50 |
| mestery | The ML is the right place for the rest of this discussion, please join in! | 21:50 |
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| mestery | amotoki: I was wondering the same, amuller had requested a release pre-kilo, but I was planning a post-kilo release. | 21:51 |
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| mestery | amotoki: Any preference? | 21:51 |
| anteaya | please at least read the nova-net to neutron threads | 21:51 |
| anteaya | your opinions are needed | 21:51 |
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| amotoki | mestery: my vote is after merging RC Bps. we canavoi more release :) | 21:51 |
| amotoki | *can avoid* | 21:51 |
| mestery | amotoki: Excellent, we're on the same page. | 21:51 |
| mestery | #info mestery to role client relase post kilo BP finalizeation | 21:52 |
| mestery | OK, thanks for coming this week folks1 | 21:52 |
| mestery | We're in the final push! | 21:52 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting #endmeeting! | 21:52 |
| mestery | Next week we'll likely look at summit sesison planning! | 21:52 |
| mestery | Yay! | 21:52 |
| mestery | See you all on the internets! | 21:52 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 30 21:52:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-03-30-21.01.html | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-03-30-21.01.txt | 21:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-03-30-21.01.log.html | 21:52 |
| banix | bye | 21:52 |
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| yamamoto | bye | 21:53 |
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| Sukhdev | bye | 21:53 |
| amotoki | thanks all | 21:53 |
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