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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 23 15:00:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
| anteaya | do raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:00 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:01 |
| luqas | o/ | 15:01 |
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| rhe00 | hi | 15:01 |
| akerr | o/ | 15:01 |
| asselin_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:01 |
| ctlaugh | hi | 15:01 |
| anteaya | how is everyone today? | 15:01 |
| ctlaugh | great! | 15:01 |
| anteaya | glad to hear it | 15:01 |
| * ameade sleepy | 15:01 | |
| anteaya | I can understand that | 15:01 |
| anteaya | who has someting they would like to discuss? | 15:02 |
| anteaya | something | 15:02 |
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| ctlaugh | I have some Jenkins-related questions... | 15:02 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:02 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: why don't you start | 15:02 |
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| kaisers | Hi | 15:02 |
| asselin_ | my ci's been failing since around 3 am pacific time | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | hi kaisers | 15:03 |
| anteaya | asselin_: hmmm | 15:03 |
| ctlaugh | Ok, mainly looking for suggestions on what to try to solve problems where a running test dies with this: "hudson.remoting.RequestAbortedException: java.io.IOException: Unexpected termination of the channel" | 15:03 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 15:03 |
| anteaya | asselin_: let's look at that after ctlaugh | 15:03 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any suggestions for ctlaugh? | 15:03 |
| ameade | ctlaugh: that's when a jenkins job was aborted, no? | 15:04 |
| rhe00 | ctlaugh: I saw that when jenkins tried to start a second test job ona node that had already run a job | 15:04 |
| rhe00 | make sure you have the zuul script set up to only run a single job | 15:04 |
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| ctlaugh | I have been able to get my zuul, nodepool configs working properly, and things will run along for the most part, but then I'll have the tempest runs (or sometimes even in the middle of devstack) fail like that. | 15:04 |
| asselin_ | when that happens, can you still ping the slave? | 15:05 |
| ctlaugh | rhe00: I'll check, but I think it's only 1 job per slave | 15:05 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: can we hear from asselin_ while you check? | 15:06 |
| ameade | ctlaugh: i think we had a similar issue and had to update our jenkins gearman plugin | 15:06 |
| rhe00 | ctlaugh: do you have these lines in your zuul layout: http://paste.openstack.org/show/195400/ | 15:06 |
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| ctlaugh | asselin_: not sure -- I can try if I see it happen while some jobs are running right now. I'm seeing these after having left my setup running all weekend. | 15:07 |
| amotoki | do you configure gearmann jenkins plugin to offline the node after jenkins job finishes. | 15:07 |
| ctlaugh | rhe00: yes | 15:07 |
| akerr | ctlaugh: to expand on ameade's comment, the issue we had was gearman's plugin was too older to support the offline-node option. Once it was updated we stopped getting nodes used multiple times | 15:07 |
| amotoki | I think gearman plugin or zuul function has a configuration to offline a slave. It help your problem. | 15:08 |
| ameade | ctlaugh: whats your gearman plugin version? | 15:08 |
| ctlaugh | let me check | 15:09 |
| ctlaugh | 0.0.7 | 15:09 |
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| ctlaugh | shows 0.1.1 is available | 15:09 |
| amotoki | another way to offline a slave node is to use Groovy postscript. | 15:09 |
| akerr | I think 0.0.4 added the offline node support | 15:10 |
| ctlaugh | I haven't updated any of the plugin versions after installation using os-ext | 15:10 |
| amotoki | I execute "manager.build.getBuiltOn().getComputer().setTemporarilyOffline(true)" as Groovy postscript. | 15:10 |
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| ctlaugh | ctlaugh: I have started seeing this more only during tempest now, but last week, it would sometimes happen even before the devstack install was able to start. | 15:11 |
| ameade | we did the groovy hack before updating gearman | 15:12 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: are you able to work on some of what others have provided and then report your status next week? | 15:12 |
| ameade | we are on 0.1.1 for gearman plugin, not sure what we were at before | 15:12 |
| ameade | 0.1.0 Update to work with Jenkins LTS ver 1.565.3 may have fixed the issue for use since we are on a later jenkins version | 15:12 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: it looks like you have a few directions, I don't think you are going to be able to try them all before the end of the meeting | 15:12 |
| ctlaugh | ctlaugh: Yes, definitely. Things are working a LOT better now -- our setup is mostly running, and the only real failures we are seeing are these jenkins exceptions. | 15:12 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: are you okay if we move on now? | 15:13 |
| ctlaugh | anteaya: correct -- I'll need a bit | 15:13 |
| ctlaugh | anteaya: thank you | 15:13 |
| anteaya | ctlaugh: okay to move on? | 15:13 |
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| rhe00 | ctlaugh: can you paste your layout.yaml? | 15:13 |
| ctlaugh | anteaya: yes - move on, please | 15:13 |
| anteaya | great | 15:13 |
| anteaya | thanks all for your contributions, hopefully ctlaugh will have some success following up on those | 15:13 |
| anteaya | moving on | 15:13 |
| anteaya | asselin_: you had an item | 15:13 |
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| asselin_ | yea...devstack is failing building some wheels. not sure why. STarted in the middle of the night. | 15:14 |
| asselin_ | http://15.126.198.151/97/164697/6/check/3par-fc-driver-master-client-pip-eos10-dsvm/5af4187/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-03-23_10_43_00_435 | 15:14 |
| ctlaugh | rhe00: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10661423/ | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | okay this moring in scrollback sdague mentioned a problem crept up on friday that affected setuptools | 15:15 |
| anteaya | asselin_: I have not gone back to friday's scrollback to read what took place nor what the fix is | 15:16 |
| anteaya | is anyone else experiencing what asselin_ is? | 15:16 |
| kaisers | anteaya: currently not | 15:17 |
| ameade | asselin_: we havent hit the issue | 15:17 |
| akerr | not the same issue really, but we have issues building the cryptography packages on anything smaller than 8G rackspace nodes | 15:17 |
| asselin_ | ok...maybe it's a network issue on our end.... | 15:17 |
| asselin_ | akerr, these are 8GB nodes | 15:17 |
| asselin_ | I was thinking something got released this morning, but not sure what. | 15:18 |
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| akerr | asselin_: k, our problem usually manifests as segmentation errors and general lack of memory so I don't think its related | 15:18 |
| anteaya | also I am not sure if it is related but there currently is a patch to global-requirements to bump the crypto version: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164289/ | 15:18 |
| ameade | yeah looks either network or something wrong with the download mirror | 15:18 |
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| asselin_ | yeah...maybe the package on the mirror is 'bad' | 15:19 |
| anteaya | asselin_: that might be a place to begin | 15:19 |
| asselin_ | ok thanks | 15:19 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:19 |
| anteaya | asselin_: let us know what you discover | 15:19 |
| asselin_ | sure | 15:19 |
| anteaya | anything more for asselin_? | 15:19 |
| anteaya | let's move on then | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? | 15:20 |
| kaisers | If nobody else has, i could: | 15:20 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: would openstack-thirdparty be a good channel to continue discussion on these issues that people are having. in case the rest of us can help? | 15:20 |
| wznoinsk | asselin_: a long shot but maybe bdist_wheel doesn't respect your proxy settings | 15:21 |
| anteaya | is there an openstack-thirdparty channel? | 15:21 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: yes | 15:21 |
| anteaya | oh okay, well discuss away | 15:21 |
| anteaya | I'm not in it, I'm fragmented enough as it is | 15:21 |
| anteaya | you are welcome to discuss anythign you like at any time | 15:22 |
| ameade | i'll creep the channel now :) | 15:22 |
| kaisers | :) | 15:22 |
| kaisers | me too | 15:22 |
| asselin_ | wznoinsk, I will investigate that. thanks looks like a potential | 15:22 |
| anteaya | do as you please | 15:22 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: not sure what it is for, really. I logged on and at some point another nick asked if that was the place to ask questions | 15:22 |
| rhe00 | I pointed him to openstack-infra at that time | 15:22 |
| anteaya | well that is rather the point | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | since people end up in infra anyway | 15:22 |
| anteaya | but if you want to talk there, noone is stopping you | 15:23 |
| anteaya | but I can't spend any time tehre | 15:23 |
| anteaya | I've stretched myself too thin as it is | 15:23 |
| anteaya | so kaisers | 15:23 |
| anteaya | did you want to mention something? | 15:23 |
| kaisers | anteaya: ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| kaisers | I have random httplib.ResponseNotReady exception in setup and teardown of tempest tests. | 15:23 |
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| kaisers | have been looking into this for quite some time now but i could not find anything wrong in the code. | 15:24 |
| kaisers | openstack-infra hinted me on checking the configuration | 15:24 |
| kaisers | as in everything :) | 15:24 |
| kaisers | Q: Has anybody seen something like this? | 15:24 |
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| kaisers | I found a hint on similiar issues (not openstack related) that found the cause in some firewall settings. That's what i'm testing right now. | 15:25 |
| kaisers | Just wanted to ask if anybody else has seen this... | 15:25 |
| anteaya | is this ringing any bells for anyone? | 15:25 |
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| asselin_ | no, never saw that | 15:26 |
| ameade | haven't hit this one | 15:26 |
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| rhe00 | I don't recall seeing that one | 15:26 |
| ctlaugh | not yet | 15:26 |
| kaisers | ok, thanks :) | 15:26 |
| anteaya | kaisers: thanks for asking | 15:26 |
| rhe00 | can you paste a stack trace? | 15:26 |
| kaisers | rhe00: yep | 15:26 |
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| kaisers | will take moment, please continue | 15:27 |
| anteaya | does anyone else have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:27 |
| luqas | hi, yes | 15:27 |
| anteaya | hi luqas | 15:27 |
| anteaya | go ahead | 15:27 |
| luqas | a question on neutron moving api test from tempest to neutron | 15:27 |
| luqas | and how this affects third party tests | 15:28 |
| luqas | running on neutron patches | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | okay good question | 15:28 |
| kaisers | rhe00: This test run hat ResponseNotReady all over the place: http://176.9.127.22:8081/refs-changes-63-165763-1/ | 15:28 |
| luqas | should we still run network/api tests from tempest or from neutron? | 15:28 |
| anteaya | I don't know the answer | 15:28 |
| anteaya | luqas: right, you need to know | 15:29 |
| anteaya | luqas: can you make the neutron meeting tomorrow at 1400? | 15:29 |
| kaisers | s/hat/had/ | 15:29 |
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| luqas | anteaya: yes, I think so | 15:29 |
| anteaya | luqas: great, I'm planning on being there as well | 15:30 |
| anteaya | luqas: let's see if we can get you an answer | 15:30 |
| anteaya | luqas: do you have a patch url that moves the test? | 15:30 |
| luqas | anteaya: perfect, thanks | 15:30 |
| anteaya | it helps to have code to give people context for the question | 15:30 |
| luqas | anteaya: not right now | 15:30 |
| luqas | but I can look for it later | 15:31 |
| anteaya | luqas: okay how did you conclude they are moving the apit test? | 15:31 |
| anteaya | ah so there is a patch | 15:31 |
| anteaya | great yes, let's find that and take the patch url to the meeting | 15:31 |
| anteaya | that increases the chances we will get an actionable response | 15:31 |
| luqas | from an email form maru newby subject: [openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] Moving network api test development to Neutron repo | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | ah okay great, we can take the mailing list link | 15:31 |
| anteaya | does everyone know how to find mailing list links that are publicly accessable? | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | they are all at lists.openstack.org | 15:32 |
| anteaya | then you can find the list and search the archives | 15:32 |
| anteaya | then post the link of the mailing list post | 15:32 |
| anteaya | which is publicly accessable | 15:32 |
| anteaya | very helpful in meetings | 15:32 |
| amotoki | i have one question. | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | luqas: so we will find that post and take that to the meeting | 15:33 |
| anteaya | amotoki: go ahead | 15:33 |
| amotoki | I would like to confirm what is the official way to share CI status (e.g., power outage, local machine problem, some troubles of CI failures...) | 15:33 |
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| amotoki | third party wiki? third-party announce ml? | 15:33 |
| luqas | I found the link to the email: https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg48304.html | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | luqas: awesome good work | 15:33 |
| anteaya | luqas: are we okay to move on to amotoki's question? | 15:34 |
| luqas | anteaya: sure | 15:34 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:34 |
| anteaya | amotoki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 15:34 |
| amotoki | If we have any status update, we should update corresponding page. right? | 15:35 |
| anteaya | this is the list of all the third party ci accounts that have read the infra requirements and have indicated they are trying to comply by following them | 15:35 |
| anteaya | amotoki: yes | 15:35 |
| amotoki | my motivation of the question is to share this information among not only thirdparty folks but also all people including PTLs or some other menbers? | 15:35 |
| anteaya | amotoki: is your ci account listed https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 15:35 |
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| amotoki | yes, of course. | 15:35 |
| anteaya | amotoki: what is your system? | 15:35 |
| amotoki | anteaya: my system is NEC CI. | 15:35 |
| anteaya | update this page as you see fit: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/NEC_CI | 15:36 |
| amotoki | I see similar questions several times in the mailing list, and just would like to confirm again for clarification. | 15:36 |
| anteaya | and share that link with whomever you need to | 15:36 |
| anteaya | yes | 15:36 |
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| amotoki | yes, thanks for the clarification. | 15:36 |
| anteaya | we tell folks and tell folks and they don't pay any attention | 15:36 |
| anteaya | so thanks for listening | 15:36 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:36 |
| amotoki | we might be better to update this information to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 15:37 |
| anteaya | amotoki: what do you mean? | 15:37 |
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| amotoki | I would like to add what you answered now to the top of ThirdPartySystem wiki page. | 15:38 |
| anteaya | it is already at http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html#requirements | 15:38 |
| anteaya | All accounts must have a wikipage entry. Follow the instructions on the ThirdPartySystems wiki page to add your system. When complete, there should be a page dedicated to your system with a URL like: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Example. | 15:39 |
| anteaya | All comments from your CI system must contain a link to the wiki page for your CI system. | 15:39 |
| amotoki | ah... I see. | 15:39 |
| anteaya | what do you need to add? | 15:39 |
| anteaya | more instructions don't help people | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | they just get more confused | 15:39 |
| anteaya | we grew faster than our culture could keep up | 15:39 |
| anteaya | now people just do random things and others copy the random things | 15:40 |
| amotoki | I sometimes forget to check if the document on ci.openstack.org is updated... | 15:40 |
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| anteaya | the document on ci.openstack.org is fairly stable | 15:40 |
| anteaya | on purpose | 15:40 |
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| anteaya | as any change doesn't actually have the intended effect | 15:40 |
| anteaya | it just makes everyone panic | 15:41 |
| anteaya | and do random things | 15:41 |
| anteaya | which then get copied | 15:41 |
| amotoki | totally agree. | 15:41 |
| anteaya | so thank you for asking | 15:41 |
| wznoinsk | anteaya: to come to the meeting asking for permission to comment is now a requirement I see :-) | 15:41 |
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| anteaya | please update your system page and share your updated system page with whoever you need to | 15:41 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: well I didn't add that | 15:42 |
| anteaya | and I disagree it is a requirement | 15:42 |
| anteaya | as a requirement if not followed gets your system disabled | 15:42 |
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| anteaya | and that if not followed won't get your system disabled from me | 15:42 |
| wznoinsk | I think it would help for all these lost souls to avoid annoying any of the projects teams tho | 15:43 |
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| anteaya | I honestly don't know what would help anymore | 15:43 |
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| anteaya | since everything annoys the project teams | 15:44 |
| anteaya | and I have been acting as mediator | 15:44 |
| wznoinsk | you're right in saying to much information is bad for people, it's a matter of leveraging more info vs. how much confusion/question/ml traffic it would generate if not added | 15:44 |
| anteaya | but if folks are going to add random requirements to the list, well I can't support them | 15:44 |
| anteaya | the point is this group is not cohesive | 15:44 |
| anteaya | you can't do anythign with a group that is not cohesive | 15:45 |
| anteaya | first you have to have some common sense of what the group is or means | 15:45 |
| anteaya | to get it moving in a common direction | 15:45 |
| anteaya | that never happened | 15:45 |
| anteaya | and it appears still isn't happening | 15:45 |
| anteaya | so I will do what I say I will do | 15:45 |
| anteaya | and I can't keep getting stretched in different directions | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | some people are cohesive | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | and I enjoy working with them | 15:46 |
| anteaya | but unfortunately they are still the minority | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | so I will work with the minority that puts in the effort | 15:46 |
| anteaya | shows up asks questions, helps others | 15:46 |
| anteaya | and if the majority fall down, so be it | 15:47 |
| anteaya | I really can't do anything more to help them | 15:47 |
| anteaya | so enough of that | 15:47 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything else today? | 15:47 |
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| anteaya | if noone else has anything else today | 15:48 |
| anteaya | let's wrap up | 15:48 |
| kaisers | Only some positive comment: Last weeks session helped me get CI running at full, which in turn helped find a bug in our driver, which in turn will have the ci run more stable (fix is currently in review). So some things of this _do_ work | 15:48 |
| kaisers | :) | 15:48 |
| anteaya | kaisers: great, because you show up | 15:48 |
| amotoki | :-) | 15:48 |
| anteaya | showing up is the first and best thing anyone can do | 15:49 |
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| wznoinsk | there's no doubt these meetings are very helpful | 15:49 |
| anteaya | kaisers: well done, and congratulations on improving the quality of your driver | 15:49 |
| asselin_ | kaisers, great news! | 15:49 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: I agree | 15:49 |
| ctlaugh | And I have gotten quote a bit of help from many here on getting my setup working (still not perfect, and still not done, but lots of progress). Thank you to everyone! | 15:49 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: and I'm quite willing to help folks that attend, but I can't be all things to all people | 15:49 |
| anteaya | great | 15:50 |
| anteaya | thanks for sharing your success stories | 15:50 |
| anteaya | anyone else with a comment? | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | okay thanks everyone for your continued participation | 15:50 |
| anteaya | you are what makes things work | 15:50 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:50 |
| anteaya | have a good week and see you next week | 15:51 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 23 15:51:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-23-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-23-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-03-23-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
| amotoki | thanks all | 15:51 |
| luqas | bye | 15:51 |
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| sarob | Hello | 17:01 |
| rluethi | sup | 17:02 |
| matjazp | hi | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 23 17:02:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:02 |
| matjazp | rluethi: short meeting? | 17:02 |
| sarob | Roll ca | 17:02 |
| sarob | Call | 17:02 |
| rluethi | matjazp: more than long enough | 17:02 |
| matjazp | here | 17:03 |
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| sarob | I don't have much to update | 17:03 |
| sarob | Last week was not good | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | sarob: not good? | 17:03 |
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| sarob | Start by going over action items | 17:03 |
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| sarob | Family problems | 17:04 |
| rluethi | sarob: sorry about that. | 17:04 |
| sarob | And I quit my job | 17:04 |
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| sarob | Rluethi: Thx | 17:04 |
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| rluethi | sarob: wow. | 17:04 |
| sarob | Indeed | 17:05 |
| matjazp | sarob: god. you really had a lousy week :( | 17:05 |
| sarob | Pretty much | 17:05 |
| rluethi | sarob: still going to Vancouver, though? | 17:06 |
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| sarob | No updates from me on my action items | 17:06 |
| sarob | Rluethi: oh yes | 17:06 |
| sarob | I should have said I switched jobs | 17:06 |
| sarob | I'm going to be running dev for Akanda | 17:06 |
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| sarob | DreamHost spin out | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | sarob: oh.. that sounds better | 17:07 |
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| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:07 |
| sarob | Still nerve racking quoting | 17:07 |
| rluethi | indeed. | 17:07 |
| sayalilunkad | sorry about the delay | 17:07 |
| sarob | Np | 17:07 |
| sarob | Just getting started | 17:07 |
| sayalilunkad | cool | 17:07 |
| rluethi | hello to India. | 17:07 |
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| sarob | How'd the workshop end up! | 17:08 |
| sarob | Hmmm? | 17:09 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad, I think he might be talking to you. | 17:09 |
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| sarob | No matter | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | It was good! | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | Got plenty of feedback on osbash | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | that we can improve on | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | got some people interested in working on AV too | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: I created a survey using your account | 17:10 |
| sayalilunkad | We can check that for analysis | 17:10 |
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| sarob | Cool | 17:11 |
| sarob | Share link? | 17:11 |
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| vigneshvar | hi | 17:11 |
| sarob | Hi | 17:11 |
| sayalilunkad | what? | 17:11 |
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| sarob | No prob I find it | 17:12 |
| sarob | Doesn't look like any updates on action items | 17:12 |
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| sayalilunkad | you not getting my messages? | 17:12 |
| sarob | Move straight to reviews? | 17:12 |
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| sarob | Sayalilunkad did I miss an email? | 17:13 |
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| rluethi | sarob, sayalilunkad: you guys need to read the transcript, it looks like somebody's on a bad connection or something. | 17:13 |
| sayalilunkad | https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/8PCHMPQ | 17:13 |
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| sarob | Strange | 17:14 |
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| sarob | I see that link | 17:14 |
| sayalilunkad | https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/DCBSKGD | 17:15 |
| sayalilunkad | Two of them | 17:15 |
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| sarob | Okay | 17:15 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: you didn't get notified? | 17:15 |
| sarob | Guess not | 17:16 |
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| sayalilunkad | hmm strange | 17:16 |
| sarob | So 59 for 13 feb | 17:16 |
| sarob | 13 for 22mar | 17:16 |
| sayalilunkad | No, that is for 16th March | 17:16 |
| sayalilunkad | The date was wrong | 17:16 |
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| sarob | 13 feb is 16 mar? | 17:17 |
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| sayalilunkad | yes | 17:17 |
| rluethi | In my experience it often helps to have some strictly qualitative questions like: what did you like, what needs improvement? what do you wish you had know before going to the workshop? etc. | 17:17 |
| matjazp | where are the results of the survey? I get only the survey, not results? | 17:17 |
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| sarob | Gathering | 17:18 |
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| sarob_ | #link http://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-X8MQPQB7 | 17:18 |
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| sarob | And | 17:19 |
| sarob_ | #link http://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-GPCF6QB7 | 17:19 |
| sarob | Good info | 17:20 |
| sayalilunkad | the second workshops had fewer attendees | 17:20 |
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| sarob | Do you have details on what was different than the published content ? | 17:20 |
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| sayalilunkad | I had made some presentations | 17:21 |
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| rluethi | I still like qualitative questions. Based on the survey results, I have little idea how to further improve the workshop. | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | http://blog.sayalilunkad.com/talks/openstack-workshop/openstack-workshop.html#/step-1 | 17:21 |
| sarob | That info can help us tailor the slides | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | http://blog.sayalilunkad.com/talks/openstack-dev/openstack-dev.html#/step-1 | 17:21 |
| sayalilunkad | Roger joined us yesterday for sometime | 17:22 |
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| sarob | Very nice | 17:22 |
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| sarob | So what's your takeaway from the workshops? | 17:22 |
| sayalilunkad | It was good to have him there | 17:23 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: nothing, just to help the students out to get started | 17:23 |
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| sarob | Does the workshop change your opinion on the direction of the juno slides? | 17:24 |
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| sarob | The responses look like the trainees liked what you were doing | 17:25 |
| sayalilunkad | I haven't taken a detailed look at the slides content. I will do that and give some feedback. | 17:25 |
| sarob | Cool | 17:25 |
| sarob | Practical classroom feedback should drive the slides | 17:26 |
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| sarob | Let's review patches next | 17:27 |
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| sarob | #topic review current patches | 17:27 |
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| rluethi | Just when I was about to complain that nobody's reviewing my stuff, somebody came along and did it. | 17:28 |
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| rluethi | Thanks :-). | 17:28 |
| matjazp | could you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142344/ | 17:28 |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: ;) | 17:29 |
| sarob | Looking | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | if this is ok, we could also shorten other content this way | 17:30 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: checking | 17:30 |
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| sarob | Moving content to presenter notes | 17:30 |
| sarob | Basically it? | 17:30 |
| matjazp | longer text is now in presenter notes.. this helps when other ppl use slides for their talks | 17:31 |
| sarob | Nice | 17:31 |
| rluethi | matjazp: way to go! | 17:31 |
| sarob | The more ww do this | 17:32 |
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| sarob | More people can reuse the slides too | 17:32 |
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| sarob | Without needing to make major changes for their tweaks | 17:32 |
| matjazp | sarob: exactly. sometimes it is a bit cryptic what some bullets mean.. | 17:32 |
| sarob | Like it | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | looks good | 17:33 |
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| matjazp | this was a "template" I was talking about last week over email | 17:33 |
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| matjazp | and we still get some sort of handout material for free... just print slides with presenter notes as a "guide" | 17:34 |
| dguitarbite | hello, sorry for the delay. | 17:34 |
| sarob | Np | 17:35 |
| matjazp | hey dguitarbite | 17:35 |
| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:35 |
| rluethi | good morning, dguitarbite. | 17:35 |
| sarob | matjazp #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142344/ | 17:35 |
| sarob | Take a look | 17:35 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: he is on IST :P | 17:36 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142344/ | 17:36 |
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| dguitarbite | but its still morning for me :P | 17:36 |
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| sarob | The sun is not an indication of what time it is | 17:36 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: since when? you're not. you may live in the geography, but not in the TZ :-). | 17:36 |
| matjazp | sarob: don't get what you mean? | 17:36 |
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| dguitarbite | well said :) | 17:37 |
| sarob | Matjazp: sorry what? | 17:37 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: true that ;) | 17:37 |
| matjazp | you said: matjazp #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142344/ | 17:37 |
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| matjazp | I don't get it? | 17:37 |
| sarob | Oh, I was trying to show dguitarbite what we are looking at | 17:37 |
| sarob | Bad paste | 17:38 |
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| matjazp | oh, ok. :) | 17:38 |
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| * dguitarbite it might be expired ;) | 17:39 | |
| dguitarbite | I am going through the meeting logs | 17:39 |
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| sarob | Dguitarbite any update on automation? | 17:40 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: for building the rst? | 17:40 |
| sarob | I didn't get to anything last week | 17:40 |
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| sarob | Dguitarbite yup | 17:40 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob: I was waiting for updates on rst files | 17:41 |
| dguitarbite | so that I can build it using heiroglyph | 17:42 |
| dguitarbite | I need a make file to build it | 17:42 |
| sarob | Not enough there to test? | 17:42 |
| matjazp | for hiero, we need to convert rst a bit... nothing big though | 17:43 |
| dguitarbite | yes, I did not take a look as we decided last meeting | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | also I was a bit pre-occupied with the workshop and falling a bit sick in between | 17:44 |
| sarob | Totally fine | 17:44 |
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| sarob | Matjazp has a new tweak on the rst | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: I shall work on the automation scripts this week | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | just finish it soonish, can you guys update one of the slides and then send an email to the docs ML | 17:45 |
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| sarob | I'll churn on the other assoc patches | 17:45 |
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| * dguitarbite is a bit lazy due to the heat | 17:45 | |
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| sarob | Np | 17:45 |
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| dguitarbite | I would also like to convert the PNGs to SVG format | 17:46 |
| dguitarbite | but this could be goal for next release | 17:46 |
| dguitarbite | more priority for the content to be ready for publishing | 17:46 |
| dguitarbite | quite a lot of demand for supporting content, the labs look great (from the workshop) | 17:46 |
| sarob | Better rendering? | 17:46 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob: more than that, light weight and also trying to avoid binary formats if possible | 17:47 |
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| sarob | Got it | 17:47 |
| dguitarbite | I got the skills to convert them to SVG so no worries there | 17:47 |
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| sarob | np | 17:47 |
| sarob | Updates on video plans? | 17:47 |
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| sayalilunkad | I am waiting for vigneshvar to share the video he has made | 17:48 |
| sayalilunkad | He also was present at the Bangalore workshop | 17:48 |
| sayalilunkad | he helped a lot | 17:48 |
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| vigneshvar | sayalilunkad: Yes i will share it | 17:48 |
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| sayalilunkad | Another person has made a windows related video | 17:49 |
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| sarob | Is there a way to add a frame plus link to a slide easily? | 17:49 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: link? | 17:50 |
| sayalilunkad | He hasnt uploaded it yet | 17:50 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: ah. please let us know once he has. | 17:50 |
| sarob | I'd like to start including the videos as part of slides | 17:50 |
| sayalilunkad | I will for sure | 17:50 |
| sarob | Would be very nice addition | 17:51 |
| sayalilunkad | I would think including pictures in the slides would be better | 17:51 |
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| sayalilunkad | like snapshots | 17:51 |
| sarob | You mean snippets of video | 17:52 |
| sarob | Rather than the whole bit | 17:52 |
| rluethi | sarob: oh, something like embedded youtube videos in the HTML slides? | 17:52 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: yes | 17:52 |
| matjazp | sarob: but why wmbed videos on slides when you have a live presenter in fromt of you? | 17:53 |
| matjazp | embed | 17:53 |
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| dguitarbite | good point | 17:53 |
| dguitarbite | we might want to discuss this on the ML? | 17:53 |
| rluethi | matjazp: good point indeed. | 17:53 |
| matjazp | dguitarbite: sure | 17:53 |
| sarob | Matjazp: true | 17:53 |
| sayalilunkad | The university we conducted the workshop at in bangalore has a video recorded for the entire event. We are trying to get that from them | 17:53 |
| sarob | Yeah | 17:53 |
| sayalilunkad | So that can be added to AV too after some editing | 17:53 |
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| sarob | Some way of adding single user content without interfering with instructor led | 17:54 |
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| sayalilunkad | It would be a good idea to make AV videos in sync with the RST content | 17:56 |
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| sarob | #topic any other business | 17:56 |
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| sayalilunkad | That way both can progress in parallel | 17:56 |
| sarob | Yup | 17:56 |
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| sarob | Having online videos will be really nice | 17:56 |
| sarob | Professional touch | 17:57 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: I agree | 17:57 |
| sayalilunkad | agreed | 17:57 |
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| vigneshvar | sayalilunkad: i spoke with the univ person | 17:57 |
| sayalilunkad | vigneshvar: and? | 17:57 |
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| dguitarbite | vigneshvar: Im eager to hear more and also may be talk on docs IRC channel (time's almost up) | 17:58 |
| vigneshvar | sayalilunkad: he said that the video needs to be submitted to their govt as they sponsored | 17:58 |
| vigneshvar | and they are not supposed to share it | 17:58 |
| dguitarbite | vigneshvar: sponsored what? | 17:59 |
| vigneshvar | dguitarbite: yes we can take it over | 17:59 |
| sarob | Sigh | 17:59 |
| dguitarbite | the event was free! | 17:59 |
| sayalilunkad | vigneshvar: I will talk to them | 17:59 |
| dguitarbite | I feel humiliated :( | 17:59 |
| sayalilunkad | ikr | 17:59 |
| sarob | Good luck | 17:59 |
| dguitarbite | thanks | 17:59 |
| sarob | That's all the time for today | 17:59 |
| sarob | Happiness to all | 18:00 |
| dguitarbite | bye | 18:00 |
| sayalilunkad | bye bye | 18:00 |
| rluethi | see you next week(ish) | 18:00 |
| matjazp | bye | 18:00 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| vigneshvar | bye | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 23 18:00:30 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-23-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-23-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-03-23-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 23 20:01:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:01 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
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| jpeeler | hi | 20:02 |
| sdake | hey jeff | 20:02 |
| smeisner | hi | 20:02 |
| rhallisey | hi | 20:02 |
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| Slower | howdy | 20:02 |
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| sdake | hey folks | 20:02 |
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| sdake | #topic milestone #3 release | 20:02 |
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| sdake | there are a few outstanding patches | 20:02 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166554/ and its dependent patches | 20:03 |
| sdake | we need these to be reviewed before we can release | 20:03 |
| daneyon | i think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166535/2https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166535/2 needs 1 more +2 | 20:04 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/166309/ needs attention rhallisey | 20:05 |
| sdake | i'd like to release today | 20:05 |
| sdake | and announce it tomorrow | 20:05 |
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| sdake | sounds good? | 20:05 |
| rhallisey | ya i'll change the description | 20:05 |
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| daneyon | i ran into a couple dev doc bugs. i'm going to submit a review for the fixes. | 20:06 |
| daneyon | i'm also updating the heat template to implement docker from source nad compose from sdake GH repo | 20:07 |
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| sdake | cool will that work finish today? | 20:07 |
| sdake | my github streak is at 8 days, I need to get some r&r :) | 20:08 |
| daneyon | sdake yes | 20:08 |
| sdake | any other outstanding issues? | 20:08 |
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| sdake | slower says his networking isn't networking | 20:08 |
| sdake | slower can you not ssh into the instances? | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | he just left for lunch | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | I said I would fill him in after :/ | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | bad timing | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | ya it networking isn't working | 20:09 |
| sdake | how about yours rhallisey? | 20:09 |
| sdake | I'd like a second confirmation that master is working prior to release | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | I haven't tested today | 20:09 |
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| daneyon | sdake. i am in the process of testing master | 20:10 |
| rhallisey | what time were you planning to release tomorrow? end of the day? | 20:10 |
| sdake | probably do a git pull --rebase daneyon :) | 20:10 |
| sdake | 10am PSt | 20:10 |
| rhallisey | gotcha | 20:10 |
| sdake | I'd like to tag today, announce tomorrow | 20:10 |
| daneyon | sdake just did a fresh pull of master on a freshly installed node | 20:11 |
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| sdake | ok any last minute discussion aboutthe release? | 20:11 |
| sdake | #topic 2015.1.0 release goals | 20:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "2015.1.0 release goals (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:12 | |
| sdake | I'd like to talk about our release goals | 20:12 |
| daneyon | nope lets just get the final patches in and test | 20:12 |
| sdake | remember we agreed our deadline is April 30th | 20:12 |
| sdake | I'd really super like to demo 3 node HA deployment | 20:12 |
| sdake | at summit | 20:12 |
| sdake | this is the reference: http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ | 20:13 |
| sdake | it means containerizing haproxy, rabbitmq-ha, and mariadb-galera | 20:14 |
| sdake | what do other folks have as goals for the april 30 release? | 20:14 |
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| daneyon | sdake: just to clarify, the link you shared #link http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ provides 2 diff HA approaches, an A/A and A/P. We will be focusing on A/A, correct? | 20:15 |
| sdake | yup A?A | 20:15 |
| daneyon | ease of deployment | 20:16 |
| sdake | we dont really do deployment :) | 20:16 |
| daneyon | at leat for a dev env using the heat templates | 20:16 |
| sdake | oh right for dev | 20:16 |
| daneyon | just to show dev's that it's easy to setup and start contributing | 20:17 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-4 | 20:17 |
| jpeeler | testing needs to come into play, but i see that's in the list | 20:18 |
| daneyon | sdake: do we want to coordinate with the heat group and have them follow our ha demo with a demo of them deplying kolla using compose? | 20:18 |
| sdake | daneyon i'm not sure we will have time | 20:19 |
| sdake | the slot is only 40 minutes | 20:19 |
| daneyon | sdake: OK | 20:19 |
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| sdake | so if folks could start working down the list of blueprints assigned to you in milestone #4 | 20:19 |
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| sdake | tha twould rock | 20:20 |
| daneyon | sdake: we will need a glance backend other than file for HA | 20:20 |
| sdake | daneyon we can put on that for now | 20:20 |
| sdake | punt | 20:20 |
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| sdake | but thanks for bringing to my attention | 20:20 |
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| sdake | out of those bluepritns, are there any that are folks that are assigned to that wont be able to finish prior to the 30th? | 20:21 |
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| sdake | we need someone to take swift | 20:22 |
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| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/swift-container | 20:23 |
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| sdake | maybe slower can tackle that one | 20:23 |
| sdake | #topic milestone #3 release announcement | 20:24 |
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| sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-3-ann | 20:24 |
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| sdake | lets spend 10 minutes writing a release announcement collaboratively | 20:25 |
| sdake | milestone #3 is totally different then our past kolla releases | 20:25 |
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| sdake | ok looking pretty good :) | 20:38 |
| sdake | we spent 14 minute son that | 20:38 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 20:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:39 | |
| sdake | everyone back from the etherpad? | 20:39 |
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| rhallisey | ya looks good | 20:40 |
| sdake | anyone have open discussion? | 20:40 |
| daneyon | nope | 20:40 |
| rhallisey | negative | 20:40 |
| sdake | ok i'll end meeting then, thanks guys was productive | 20:40 |
| sdake | If I could get an ack when you done daneyon/rhallisey I'd appreciate it | 20:41 |
| rhallisey | join #kolla :) | 20:41 |
| sdake | so i can retests | 20:41 |
| sdake | and we can get one more ack from somone else | 20:41 |
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| rhallisey | sdake, I pushed again | 20:41 |
| sdake | cool | 20:41 |
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| sdake | thanks all :) | 20:41 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:41 | |
| daneyon | thx | 20:41 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 23 20:41:32 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-23-20.01.html | 20:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-23-20.01.txt | 20:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-03-23-20.01.log.html | 20:41 |
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