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| EmilienM | o/ | 13:59 |
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| mdorman | hola | 13:59 |
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| EmilienM | final countdown | 13:59 |
| EmilienM | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 2 14:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is EmilienM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 14:00 |
| sbadia | o/ | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #topic Review last week's Action items | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review last week's Action items (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 14:00 | |
| sbadia | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-01-26-14.04.html | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.ring.enovance.com/p/vancouver-summit-proposal-upgrades | 14:00 |
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| EmilienM | Talk submission has been updated | 14:00 |
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| sbadia | nice, the deadline is when? | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | till wrong link | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | argh | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-vancouver-summit-proposal | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | I'll make the error every week ! | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | this week AFIK | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | #link Talk submitted #1 with mfisch mdorman & emilien https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/xfrye9phZc | 14:02 |
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| EmilienM | I guess it was everything for last week's actions | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | #topic Trello | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: o/ | 14:03 |
| spredzy | It is on | 14:03 |
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| spredzy | available here : https://trello.com/puppetopenstack | 14:04 |
| spredzy | if anyone is currently working on something (keystone, ceph, etc...) please try to use it | 14:04 |
| crinkle | I forgot to add cards like spredzy asked me to, will do asap | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | spredzy: did you send a mail to the ML ? | 14:04 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: me too :P | 14:04 |
| spredzy | I added all core, if you're not on the member list please let any core know | 14:04 |
| sbadia | ack | 14:04 |
| spredzy | EmilienM, nop I just communicate on the irc channel | 14:05 |
| spredzy | #action spredzy sent an email on the ML to communicate about the trello board | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | spredzy: awesome | 14:05 |
| spredzy | s/sent/send sorry | 14:05 |
| sbadia | spredzy: thanks! | 14:05 |
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| EmilienM | #topic open-discussion | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open-discussion (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 14:06 | |
| EmilienM | crinkle: sbadia: you were at the FOSDEM, something about puppet openstack ? | 14:06 |
| sbadia | hum, I missed some confs (about openstack) | 14:07 |
| crinkle | i'll be talking about puppet-openstack at configmgmt camp tomorrow | 14:07 |
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| crinkle | fosdem had some openstack things and some puppet things but not much intersection | 14:07 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: awesome!! do you have (or will you) slides? | 14:08 |
| crinkle | i do | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | ok I see | 14:08 |
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| crinkle | i can post them | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: great | 14:08 |
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| EmilienM | #action crinkle to post puppet-openstack slides to the ML | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: that works for you ^^^^^? | 14:08 |
| crinkle | sure | 14:09 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: spencer made a nice talk about openstack infra (up/down) https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/consuming_foss_configuration/ and elizabeth also https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/public_puppet/ | 14:09 |
| sbadia | yeah \o/ | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | excellent | 14:09 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: fosdem conf are recored, video will be avail. soon | 14:10 |
| sbadia | I've a point | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: sbadia: the review list is quite big - I would expect some triage from core-team | 14:10 |
| crinkle | yes :( | 14:10 |
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| sbadia | yes, I'll take a look this week, to help so | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | great | 14:11 |
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| EmilienM | #action Core-team to review and reduce backlog - http://goo.gl/L6eDRe | 14:11 |
| nibalizer | ohai | 14:11 |
| sbadia | and Matt talked about bug/LP on the ML | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: URL ? | 14:12 |
| sbadia | I'll take a look to close bugs (released versions) | 14:12 |
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| sbadia | #link https://groups.google.com/a/puppetlabs.com/forum/#!topic/puppet-openstack/VzUbdl4MjHk | 14:12 |
| sbadia | nibalizer: ohai | 14:12 |
| nibalizer | weird to have the meeting at a time when i am awake! | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: afik, mgagne, crinkle and you have release management on hands | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | (usually) | 14:13 |
| nibalizer | the slides fom my talk are here http://spencerkrum.com/pres/consuming_open_source_infra_with_gifs/ | 14:13 |
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| sbadia | #action sbadia gardening in the launchpad bugs | 14:14 |
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| sbadia | EmilienM: yep, yep | 14:14 |
| sbadia | nibalizer: thx! | 14:14 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: sbadia: anything to add? | 14:14 |
| crinkle | I'm wondering about the status of the HA utils in openstack_extras | 14:15 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: any update about identity_uri ? | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: dprince is our guy | 14:15 |
| crinkle | is there more work to be done with pacemaker? are additional things needed? | 14:15 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: some of them are merged, there is still some patches | 14:15 |
| crinkle | oh okay | 14:15 |
| crinkle | cool | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151609/ | 14:15 |
| EmilienM | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151609/ | 14:16 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: they did a great job in both puppetlabs-corosync & _extras repo | 14:16 |
| dprince | sbadia: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150655/ is up for puppet-nova. there was a thread on the list to discuss further | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: we are in the process to integrate the work in our composition layer, so maybe more patches are coming | 14:17 |
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| crinkle | awesome | 14:17 |
| sbadia | dprince: oh, indeed, thanks! | 14:17 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: any status on keystone v3 thing? AFIK rich is still working on domains | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: is he blocked? | 14:18 |
| crinkle | I think he submitted a spec, haven't looked yet | 14:18 |
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| crinkle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150108/ | 14:19 |
| crinkle | looks like he's still working on it | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | #action People should review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150108/ | 14:19 |
| crinkle | well he's WIP'd it | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: indeed | 14:20 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: we should make progress on the spec so we can start to split the tasks and dispatch the work to people interesting by contributing to it | 14:20 |
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| crinkle | agreed | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | I'll catch-up with rich today | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | seems like we are almost done | 14:22 |
| sbadia | yup | 14:22 |
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| EmilienM | is there anything else? Raise your hand, other I'll raise my "end" :-) | 14:23 |
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| sbadia | crinkle: may the force be with you (for your talk tomorrow) \o/ | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | +1 | 14:23 |
| crinkle | sbadia: ty | 14:23 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: ^^ | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | #endmeeting | 14:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 2 14:24:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-02-02-14.00.html | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-02-02-14.00.txt | 14:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2015/puppet_openstack.2015-02-02-14.00.log.html | 14:24 |
| crinkle | thanks for taking lead EmilienM | 14:24 |
| sbadia | thanks everyone | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: my pleasure | 14:24 |
| EmilienM | have a great day Puppeteers | 14:24 |
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| sbadia | EmilienM: you push meeting notes? Or I'll manage this? | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | sbadia: please do! I'm in another meeting now :-) | 14:25 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: ack | 14:26 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 2 15:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | if you are here for the third-party meeting do say hello | 15:01 |
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| wznoinsk_ | hello | 15:02 |
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| wznoinsk_ | hi anteaya how are you? | 15:02 |
| riwinters | hi | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: hello | 15:02 |
| anteaya | I'm well thank you | 15:02 |
| anteaya | and yourself? | 15:02 |
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| wznoinsk | I'm very good, progressing with 3rd party ci in lxc containers with hugepages here | 15:04 |
| anteaya | congratulations | 15:04 |
| anteaya | glad progress is a root verb here | 15:04 |
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| johnma | Hello anteaya, not sure whats the format of the meeting here but I do have some basic questions about setting up a third party CI. I am starting to look at setting up a third party CI for Trove and I need to understand the hardware requirements for the different CI components | 15:08 |
| wznoinsk | anteaya: would you know whether any part of jenkins can/runs on a baremetal? my understanding is that everything runs on vm's using nodepool | 15:08 |
| anteaya | johnma: hello | 15:08 |
| johnma | hello anteaya :) | 15:08 |
| anteaya | johnma: the format is whatever we want it to be | 15:08 |
| anteaya | johnma: asking questions works so yes go ahead and ask | 15:09 |
| johnma | ok, thanks anteaya | 15:09 |
| anteaya | johnma: I don't know all the answers but asking them is a very good place to start | 15:09 |
| anteaya | johnma: sure | 15:09 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: I don't know, the openstack infrastructure runs on vms | 15:09 |
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| johnma | right I understand. Plus there are lots of folks who have done this or are in the process of doing this, so it definitely helps to get feedback. | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: adam_g is the contact for third party ci for ironic, which is the bare metal driver | 15:10 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: I don't know if adam_g uses nodepool or not | 15:10 |
| anteaya | johnma: that it does | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: so in short your understanding is correct, and I don't know if it runs on baremetal but adam_g might know | 15:11 |
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| wznoinsk | ok, thanks, I'll get in contact with him | 15:11 |
| anteaya | wznoinsk: sure, then if you find out, do let me know | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | johnma: did you have some questions? | 15:16 |
| johnma | sorry anteaya, got pulled into another call. yes I did | 15:17 |
| anteaya | johnma: just wondering if I had lost you | 15:17 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:17 |
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| johnma | so far I am waiting for our PTL to give us the requirements for setting up the third part CI but in the mean time I have been doing my own research and have been getting alot of help. Is there a way to estimate how big of an openstack cloud we will need for nodepool. I mean as far as how many VMs nodepool will need to run the jobs | 15:19 |
| anteaya | ahhhh | 15:19 |
| johnma | are there any standard numbers for that or does it just depend on the tests and patches for the project | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | so your PTL is slicknik? | 15:20 |
| johnma | yes | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | it is a per project number | 15:20 |
| * anteaya goes looking | 15:20 | |
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| johnma | cool, that makes sense | 15:21 |
| patrickeast | depends on the project, for example with cinder i have ~6 VM’s available and it very rarely gets backed up in normal usage | 15:21 |
| patrickeast | it spikes quite a bit at the end of milestones | 15:21 |
| anteaya | so looking here: https://github.com/openstack/trove/graphs/commit-activity | 15:21 |
| patrickeast | i saw at k-1 we were getting like 50+ more per day than normal | 15:21 |
| anteaya | trove's peak activity is 21 commits per week | 15:21 |
| anteaya | not very high | 15:21 |
| anteaya | you may not even need a nodepool to start | 15:22 |
| johnma | and for each project, does it depend on the number of patches and tests we have to run? Just trying to understand how we determine this | 15:22 |
| anteaya | johnma: yes | 15:22 |
| johnma | oh ok, nice. good to know how we get to that number | 15:22 |
| anteaya | hey patrickeast | 15:22 |
| patrickeast | keep in mind though that you will be running more than one test pass per commit, each review usually has a bunch of updates | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | for comparison here is cinder's graph: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/graphs/commit-activity | 15:23 |
| patrickeast | anteaya: heya | 15:23 |
| johnma | thanks patrickeast & anteaya | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | here are the jobs that run on trove: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n1482 | 15:24 |
| anteaya | here are the jobs that run on cinder: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n988 | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | these are the jobs infra runs on these projects | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | but it gives you an idea of what we are running on them | 15:25 |
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| johnma | greats, thanks anteaya. This sure helps. | 15:26 |
| johnma | lets say we start without a nodepool and later the commit rate goes high and we need to include a nodepool, how easy/difficult is it going to be to add this later on. Or is it safe to just go ahead and set it up with a nodepool to begin with | 15:26 |
| anteaya | johnma: awesome | 15:26 |
| anteaya | johnma: that is the question isn't it | 15:27 |
| anteaya | and for that question I have no answere | 15:27 |
| patrickeast | johnma: imo just start with nodepool, you can always run it with a single build slave | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | thank you patrickeast | 15:27 |
| patrickeast | johnma: but you get the benefits of being able to scale out and have the single use slaves | 15:27 |
| johnma | right, that would be a safe option. | 15:27 |
| anteaya | he speaks with the voice of experience | 15:27 |
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| johnma | and I do appreciate it. Thank you patrickeast. This sure does help | 15:28 |
| patrickeast | np | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | johnma: have you read all of http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 15:30 |
| anteaya | to ensure you have the account set up as required? | 15:30 |
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| johnma | I have read most of it. Yes anteaya. Plus I have also read IBM blog on powerkvm CI and Jay Pipe's blog. All have been very helpful | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | johnma: awesome | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | johnma: make sure you read the requirements section carefully and ask any questions if you need clarification | 15:32 |
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| johnma | I am sure I will have alot more questions when its time to actually setup the system but I am hoping to document the process | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | johnma: that would be very helpful thank you | 15:33 |
| johnma | I will do that anteaya. Thank you so much. I think thats all I have for now. Really appreciate all the insight. | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | johnma: thanks for taking the time to show up and ask questions | 15:33 |
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| johnma | sure :) | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | :) | 15:34 |
| anteaya | patrickeast: how are you doing today? | 15:34 |
| patrickeast | anteaya: pretty good, yourself? | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | patrickeast: great, good thanks | 15:34 |
| anteaya | at my parents in Tucson | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | hit the gem show on saturday | 15:35 |
| anteaya | between meetings we are going to visit a cave | 15:35 |
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| patrickeast | ahh nice sounds like a good time | 15:35 |
| anteaya | feels good | 15:35 |
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| anteaya | patrickeast: is there anything I can do to support any of your contribution goals? | 15:36 |
| anteaya | can I point you to files or introduce you to anyone? | 15:36 |
| anteaya | very glad to have your help | 15:36 |
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| patrickeast | mmm nothing right now, just focusing on finishing up some outstanding tasks for my cinder driver | 15:36 |
| anteaya | patrickeast: cool | 15:37 |
| anteaya | let me know | 15:37 |
| patrickeast | thanks, will do | 15:37 |
| anteaya | want to ensure you are kept fulling entertained and challenged | 15:37 |
| anteaya | wouldn't want you to become bored at all | 15:37 |
| patrickeast | hehe no problems there | 15:37 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:37 |
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| wznoinsk | johnma: if you want to have a rough feeling on how many patchsets created are per particular project you could subscribe to gerrit stream event using either ssh, jenkins, other CI system and capture it, then run statistics off it after a few weeks | 15:38 |
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| johnma | wznoinsk, thats good to know. and I guess this helps determine the project load | 15:41 |
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| anteaya | looks like we are winding down | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | I'm feeling it might be an idea to tie this off this week | 15:50 |
| anteaya | I did so too quickly the other week | 15:50 |
| anteaya | so I'll announce my intentions and give it a minute this time | 15:50 |
| anteaya | and my breakfast is ready | 15:51 |
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| anteaya | so I will eat it | 15:51 |
| anteaya | thanks all for your attendance and participation today | 15:51 |
| anteaya | grateful to have your here | 15:51 |
| anteaya | see you all next week | 15:51 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 2 15:51:37 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-02-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-02-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-02-02-15.00.log.html | 15:51 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 2 16:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| nmakhotkin | hi! | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | hi Nikolay | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | 2 mins | 16:01 |
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| akuznetsova | hi, sorry, I am a bit late | 16:02 |
| dzimine | hi all | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | no problem | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | guys, I apologize, pls give me 2 more mins | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm here | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | so we didn't actually have any action items | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | so let's discuss other topics | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Kilo-2 progress | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | release page: https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/kilo-2 | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | I moved a couple of low/medium priority BPs to Kilo-3 | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | but overall it looks ok | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | so here I would like to discuss just one thing | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | I think we need to leave only bugs that are possible to fix till this Friday | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, I'd like to ask you to take a look at the bugs and assign all that you're interested in to Kilo-2 | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | it can be done offline to save time | 16:12 |
| dzimine | ok. Bugs keep on coming. | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | it's bad and good at the same time | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:13 |
| dzimine | but i’ll cast my opinion at existing ones. | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:13 |
| dzimine | the bigger quesiton is are there any critical ones which we want to fix before we call it kilo-2. | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | and pls can you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1415886 again | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | at our comments | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | I think it's invalid and can be closed | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | btw, I have found a few usability bugs today (for environments cli) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | can you pls file bugs? | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | for them | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, you, tomorrow I will | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action dzimine, look at the bugs and assigned most critical ones to kilo-2 | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, *yes | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action akuznetsova, file bugs for recently found usability issues | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | do you want us to discuss them now or take it offline? | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | me? no | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | I just have one question | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | sure, go ahead | 16:16 |
| akuznetsova | I will ask it later in open discussion | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ko | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | so, dzimine, answering your question about critical bugs... | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | I would really like to fix whatever is related with expressions | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | and I'll strive to finish result/output refactoring | 16:17 |
| dzimine | you guys brough up quite a lot of questions on YAQL. | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | I've mostly done with the overall picture | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | I'm shocked why we didn't see all those issues before.. | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I think that is pretty much it on this topic | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | and I actually forgot current status topic | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | so, on Kilo-2, I think there should be no rush or panic with releasing kilo-2 | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | keep in mind that this is a development milestone | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status (by team members) | 16:20 |
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| dzimine | do we release kilo-2 based on time or based on scope (when we fix this list of bugs/implement min list of BP?) | 16:21 |
| dzimine | status: drafterd impl on handling errors to prevent zombie workflows, WIP for early feedback / criticism here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151975 | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | my status: last week I fixed "publish" functionality, reproduced a bug reported by Winson about parallel tasks (didn't fix it though yet since it turned out to be not so trivial), also keep working task output refactoring (made 1 patch so far) and hoping to get it done in ~2 days | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, based on time | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | because we're trying to be synced with all core projects in terms of release dates | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine, thanks. That's a good patch, I will leave a few comments | 16:24 |
| nmakhotkin | status: worked on std.javascript and fix one bug related to with-items and action_context | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova, dzimine? | 16:26 |
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| akuznetsova | status: started to test environments | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, dzimine, you already wrote you status | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok, so let's go to | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | akuznetsova, you were going to ask something | 16:27 |
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| akuznetsova | yes | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | pls do | 16:27 |
| akuznetsova | how to use environments ? where should I pass env name? During execution creation ? | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok, we have that 'params' thing in start_workflow() method | 16:28 |
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| akuznetsova | execution-create cli command has 3 arguments only | 16:29 |
| akuznetsova | wf_name, wf_inputs, params | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | so environment is either a string (env name) or a dictionary and is passed under 'env' key in 'params' | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | in params | 16:29 |
| akuznetsova | like {env: <name>} ? | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | params={'env': 'env_name'} | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | but in CLI I guess it should be a json string as usually | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | do you have any more questions? | 16:31 |
| akuznetsova | no, just this one | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | alright ) | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | I wanted to pay your attention to just one thing | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | I sent you an email about YAQL problems and suggestions how to solve them (not for all though) | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | so please read it carefully and provide your feedback | 16:32 |
| dzimine | ok, will do. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | we need to fix all this asap | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | anything else? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | I don't have anything | 16:34 |
| akuznetsova | me too | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | gentlemen? | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish then | 16:35 |
| nmakhotkin | from me too | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | thanks to all! | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:35 |
| nmakhotkin | bye! | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 2 16:36:02 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:36 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-02-02-16.00.html | 16:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-02-02-16.00.txt | 16:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-02-02-16.00.log.html | 16:36 |
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| sarob | sayali: hey | 16:59 |
| sayali | hello | 16:59 |
| dbyte | hello | 17:00 |
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| vigneshvar | hi | 17:00 |
| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 2 17:00:41 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
| sarob | roll call | 17:00 |
| dbyte | hi | 17:01 |
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| vigneshvar | hello all | 17:01 |
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| sayali | hello | 17:01 |
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| sarob | heloo! | 17:01 |
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| sarob | evening matjazp | 17:01 |
| matjazp | hi all | 17:01 |
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| sarob | agenda can be found here #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | sarob: long agenda this time... | 17:02 |
| sarob | matjazp better than short | 17:02 |
| sarob | lets dig in | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #topic publishing in new branch | 17:02 |
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| sarob | dbyte: take it away! | 17:03 |
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| dbyte | sarob, publishing should be done soonish, here are the patches: | 17:03 |
| * sarob we have stable icehouse, yah! | 17:03 | |
| dbyte | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152114/ | 17:03 |
| dbyte | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152118/ | 17:03 |
| dbyte | one more patch to come soonish | 17:04 |
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| dbyte | conversion of RST to HTML/PDF will have to wait till we decide for sure to use Landslide or Heiroglyph | 17:04 |
| matjazp | dbyte: what the difference in source RST? | 17:04 |
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| dbyte | some syntax will change | 17:05 |
| matjazp | dbyte: I mean, maybe the format for slides is so similar that we dont need to wait | 17:05 |
| dbyte | but I cannot decide which one to go with | 17:05 |
| dbyte | it has to be a team decison with a spec | 17:05 |
| dbyte | to convience the infra team | 17:05 |
| dbyte | publishing the jenkins job will have to wait | 17:05 |
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| matjazp | dbyte: I'm afraid that we're gonna stall again | 17:05 |
| dbyte | not the RST content development | 17:05 |
| sarob | does this patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ | 17:05 |
| sarob | from reed | 17:06 |
| dbyte | matjazp, I cannot help it, last time I created the required tools but it was not accepted | 17:06 |
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| sarob | finish the hieroglyph port changes for upstream? | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | is reed happy with Upstream training port to Hiero? | 17:07 |
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| sarob | i will need the syntax changes for rst for hieroglyph | 17:07 |
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| sarob | ill work on reed's patch and ping the group if it is ready | 17:08 |
| sarob | im fine with hieroglyph at this point | 17:08 |
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| sarob | i just want to start publishing slides | 17:08 |
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| sarob | dhellman you around? | 17:08 |
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| sarob | #action sarob review and post hieroglyph patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ | 17:09 |
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| sarob | dbyte you going to rebase #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150472/ | 17:10 |
| dbyte | yes | 17:10 |
| dbyte | I mean | 17:11 |
| dbyte | no need for that | 17:11 |
| dbyte | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151938/ | 17:11 |
| dbyte | here is the correct patch | 17:11 |
| sarob | cool | 17:11 |
| sarob | so we are fully branched | 17:11 |
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| sarob | moving on? | 17:12 |
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| dbyte | yes | 17:12 |
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| sarob | #topic conversion of XML books to RST slides | 17:12 |
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| sarob | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-January/005755.html | 17:13 |
| sarob | ill run down the points in the email | 17:14 |
| sarob | we need to branch faster i think is the first one | 17:14 |
| sarob | so we can push the backlog | 17:14 |
| dbyte | sarob, next time it will be faster | 17:14 |
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| sarob | dbyte: cool ;) | 17:14 |
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| dbyte | I have to setup infra related stuff this time ... its a bit painful | 17:15 |
| sarob | dbyte: understood | 17:15 |
| sarob | second point #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141226/ | 17:15 |
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| sarob | my understanding of landslide is that I needed to create the structure for each subdir | 17:16 |
| sarob | if there is a better way im open to it | 17:16 |
| sarob | not sure about what cruft hieroglyph will bring to the party | 17:16 |
| dbyte | sarob, we do not need landslide branding in every folder | 17:16 |
| dbyte | just keep the css and other landslide related content in the /doc/training-guides/ folder | 17:17 |
| sarob | dbyte: just root dir to publish from? | 17:17 |
| dbyte | yes, there is no need to repeat the content | 17:17 |
| sarob | dbyte: okay cool | 17:17 |
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| sarob | #action sarob #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141226/ cleanup extra css, leaving only root | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | sowe're going forward with landslide | 17:19 |
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| sarob | third point was to include removing the xml content with the rst patches | 17:19 |
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| matjazp | and not wait for hiero? | 17:19 |
| matjazp | or did I misunderstood? | 17:19 |
| dbyte | if we want landslide, it is possible to push landslide | 17:19 |
| dbyte | we will also have PDF support with that! | 17:19 |
| sarob | matjazp: im assuming landslide until the team or infra decides differently | 17:19 |
| matjazp | ok, agree | 17:20 |
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| dbyte | the tools for landslide are already made | 17:20 |
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| sarob | matjazp: im going to check out reed's hieroglyph patch though | 17:20 |
| * sarob no like wait | 17:20 | |
| matjazp | dbyte: yes, I agree.. I was afraid that we're gonna wait for hiero and get into another stall | 17:20 |
| sarob | about the third point #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+spec/merge-unused-content-back-into-the-existing-docs | 17:21 |
| dbyte | matjazp, I am neutral to the tools used :) | 17:22 |
| sarob | plus #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+spec/convert-the-xml-into-rst | 17:22 |
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| sarob | the last point is to break the rst down into a smaller, less detail slides | 17:23 |
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| sarob | i agree with this | 17:24 |
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| sarob | it was part of our original summit decussion | 17:24 |
| matjazp | sarob: not only that, I guess we still need some kind of more detailed text | 17:24 |
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| sayali | yes slide should only have pointers..not too much content | 17:24 |
| dhellmann | sarob: pong | 17:24 |
| sarob | so im going to pare down the rst slides | 17:24 |
| sarob | leaving only the unused xml | 17:24 |
| matjazp | sarob: like presenters notes or smth like that | 17:24 |
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| sarob | matjazp: did we ever figure out how to do presenters notes? | 17:25 |
| matjazp | sarob: in landslide, yes | 17:25 |
| sarob | matjazp: example? | 17:25 |
| * sarob dont remember | 17:26 | |
| matjazp | sarob: I can make one | 17:26 |
| sarob | matjazp: sweeet | 17:26 |
| matjazp | sarob: you have tags | 17:26 |
| matjazp | for it | 17:26 |
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| sarob | dhellman: there was some discussion about using hieroglyph | 17:27 |
| dhellmann | in hieroglyph you use the "note" directive for presenter notes -- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pyatl/talks/master/2014-09/stdlib-tour/source/index.rst | 17:27 |
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| dhellmann | sarob: ok, did you determine if it meets your needs? | 17:27 |
| sarob | dhellman: reed was looking into it #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132395/ | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | dhellmann: yes, I see it's similar as in landslide | 17:28 |
| sarob | dhellman: we are ready to publish in landslide today however | 17:28 |
| sarob | dhellman: we plan on looking at hieroglyph but not to stall our current work | 17:29 |
| dhellmann | ok, as long as you've looked at it -- there are a zillion of these tools | 17:30 |
| sarob | matjazp: lets discuss presenter notes on docs channel after the meeting | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | sarob: huh, not today unfortunately.. ML? | 17:30 |
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| sarob | dhellmann: ill continue to work on it in parallel if it could help simpliy tools support | 17:31 |
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| sarob | matjazp: sure, or inline in the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142259/ | 17:31 |
| dhellmann | yeah, if everything else is going to be in restructured text, that would make sense | 17:31 |
| matjazp | ok | 17:31 |
| sarob | #action sarob simply #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142259/ details, removing rst used xml, leaving behind unused xml | 17:32 |
| sarob | moving on | 17:32 |
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| sarob | #topic review queue | 17:33 |
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| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z | 17:33 |
| sarob | patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151895/ | 17:34 |
| sarob | dbyte or rluethi? | 17:34 |
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| sayali1 | there are still some patches fixing xml content.. | 17:36 |
| sarob | sayali1: yup link matjazp #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148315/ | 17:36 |
| matjazp | sayali1: should we redirect them to the stable/icehouse? | 17:36 |
| sarob | sayali1: oops, i misunderstood | 17:37 |
| dbyte | sarob, needs more discussion | 17:37 |
| matjazp | sarob: that patch is for RST | 17:37 |
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| sarob | matjazp: yup | 17:37 |
| sayali1 | matjazp: we will have to but it would be better if we can avoid it completly | 17:37 |
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| sarob | sayali1: stable patches should be fine | 17:38 |
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| matjazp | sayali1: yes, sure, but if someone submits a patch, its better to merge it somwhere than to abandon it | 17:38 |
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| sarob | sayali1 matjazp keeping the stable branches cleaned up is good, right? | 17:39 |
| sayali1 | true, so we keep reviewing the patches. | 17:39 |
| sayali1 | sarob: yes it definately isn't bad :) | 17:39 |
| matjazp | if they are for a master branch, just point them to the stable | 17:39 |
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| sarob | matjazp: im going to follow your lead on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148315/ for the rest of the assoc tests | 17:40 |
| matjazp | sarob: wait a bit ... naming conventions | 17:40 |
| matjazp | roger had a point that currently its a mess | 17:40 |
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| sarob | matjazp: in this patch? | 17:41 |
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| matjazp | yes | 17:41 |
| matjazp | what to name the log document with everything and where to put it | 17:42 |
| sarob | periods, whitespace, nova underscore | 17:42 |
| sarob | i dont see naming conventions | 17:42 |
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| matjazp | there are none at the moment | 17:42 |
| matjazp | for slides, we start with a numbers | 17:43 |
| matjazp | but what about that longer document with all the Q&A (that's gonna end in Moodle someday)? | 17:43 |
| sarob | matjazp: yup | 17:44 |
| matjazp | We can put them in a separate dir or just leave them in root | 17:44 |
| matjazp | currently it's confusing | 17:44 |
| matjazp | that's why I havent submitted another patch | 17:44 |
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| sarob | matjazp: okay, how about the assessment as starting with 00- | 17:45 |
| sarob | matjazp: that way it is always in the right place | 17:45 |
| matjazp | why 00? trainers will look at slides by numbers | 17:45 |
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| sarob | matjazp: or 99- | 17:46 |
| matjazp | 99- is better | 17:46 |
| sarob | matjazp: cool | 17:46 |
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| matjazp | but its still a terrible convention... dir would be better? or not? | 17:46 |
| sarob | matjazp: im fine either way | 17:46 |
| matjazp | OK, I'll figure it aout and submit a patch | 17:47 |
| sayali1 | dir seems more organized.. | 17:47 |
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| sarob | matjazp: i have a natural aversion to lots of subdirecties, but im good either way | 17:47 |
| matjazp | we can use that as a guide for other chapters | 17:47 |
| sarob | matjazp: sounds good | 17:47 |
| sarob | matjazp: i will push all the non-quiz xml | 17:48 |
| matjazp | sarob, ok, I will do the rest | 17:48 |
| sarob | matjazp: sweet | 17:48 |
| sarob | #action sarob will patch non-quiz xml with rst | 17:48 |
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| sarob | #action matjazp will patch quiz xml with rst | 17:48 |
| sarob | lets review the rest of queue on our own time | 17:49 |
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| sarob | so we can finish the agenda | 17:49 |
| sarob | #topic Discuss list of videos to be made for next release | 17:49 |
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| sarob | sayali1: #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-January/005765.html | 17:50 |
| sayali1 | yes I wanted some inputs from everyone on that list.. | 17:50 |
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| vigneshvar | who is doing the sript osbash - linux | 17:50 |
| sayali1 | I thought it would be nice to have a list so when we have new contributors they can pick from the list | 17:51 |
| matjazp | is osx and linux so different that it need separate videos? | 17:51 |
| sayali1 | I was going to do that but I am waiting for a patch from roger before I can make the osbash videos | 17:51 |
| matjazp | sayali1: also, we don't have heat yet | 17:51 |
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| sayali1 | matjazp: no it is not different but if we want we can make them seperate | 17:52 |
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| sayali1 | vigneshvar: would you like to do the osbash video? | 17:52 |
| matjazp | why complicate? | 17:52 |
| vigneshvar | sayali1: ya i can make | 17:52 |
| matjazp | vigneshvar: hey, great work on LBaaS! | 17:52 |
| vigneshvar | matjazp: Thanks | 17:53 |
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| sarob | sweet! | 17:53 |
| sayali1 | matjazp: not complicate, just variety ;) But I don't mind not doing it too. | 17:53 |
| matjazp | we can talk on ML about what to add to Labs... Roger? dbyte ? | 17:53 |
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| vigneshvar | what about heat ? | 17:53 |
| vigneshvar | ok | 17:53 |
| matjazp | we have 7 mins left | 17:54 |
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| matjazp | and log agenda | 17:54 |
| sarob | right | 17:54 |
| matjazp | nong | 17:54 |
| matjazp | long | 17:54 |
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| sayali1 | heat was just a suggestion..we can have other videos.. | 17:54 |
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| vigneshvar | i meant adding heat to oslabs | 17:54 |
| sarob | sayali1: work through on the ML? | 17:54 |
| sayali1 | vigneshvar: ok we will dicsuss that post the meeting then | 17:54 |
| matjazp | sayali1: no, I like heat.. I has a great potential for a nice demos | 17:54 |
| vigneshvar | sayali1: sure | 17:55 |
| vigneshvar | matjazp: +1 | 17:55 |
| sarob | few minutes about summit prep | 17:55 |
| sayali1 | sarob: yes but I didn't get any replies so I put it in the agenda | 17:55 |
| sayali1 | matjazp: yes I thought it would be nice to have a demo on that | 17:55 |
| sarob | sayali1: you did the right thing | 17:56 |
| sayali1 | matjazp: we don't have to keep the content stricty to cover training-guides right> | 17:56 |
| vigneshvar | few suggestions about noise reduction - videos . I will share it over #openstack-doc | 17:56 |
| sarob | matjazp: agreed, but ideally cover training guides first | 17:56 |
| sayali1 | vigneshvar: sure | 17:57 |
| sarob | 4 minute to highlight summit planning? | 17:57 |
| matjazp | just postpone it for next meeting? | 17:57 |
| sarob | #topic summit planning | 17:57 |
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| dbyte | matjazp, sure | 17:57 |
| dbyte | lets talk in ML | 17:57 |
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| sarob | #topic any other business | 17:58 |
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| sarob | summit talk | 17:58 |
| matjazp | there's a long queue of bugs | 17:58 |
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| matjazp | we should triage it and mark easy one for new contributors | 17:58 |
| sarob | do we want to submit a summit talk? | 17:58 |
| vigneshvar | matjazp: +1 | 17:58 |
| sayali1 | yes I agree too | 17:58 |
| sayali1 | sarob: firstly who all would be attending the summit this time? | 17:59 |
| matjazp | sarob: what's the deadline? | 17:59 |
| vigneshvar | sarob: would be good | 17:59 |
| sarob | this week | 17:59 |
| matjazp | huh.. no time... ML? | 17:59 |
| sarob | few minutes to discuss on docs channel? | 17:59 |
| sayali1 | thats close, but a talk/demo would be good | 17:59 |
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| vigneshvar | yes | 17:59 |
| sarob | then ill post to ML | 17:59 |
| sayali1 | yep | 17:59 |
| sarob | times up | 17:59 |
| sarob | thanks everyone! | 17:59 |
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| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 2 18:00:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-02-02-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-02-02-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-02-02-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| mestery_ | hi | 20:58 |
| sc68cal | o/ | 20:58 |
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| marun | hi | 20:58 |
| enikanorov_ | hi | 20:58 |
| kevinbenton_ | Hi | 20:58 |
| anteaya | o/ | 20:58 |
| sweston | o/ | 20:58 |
| rkukura | hi | 20:59 |
| tongli | hi | 20:59 |
| ChuckC | o/ | 20:59 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 20:59 |
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| dougwig | markmcclain: is that code for an airplane seat? | 21:00 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando armax dougwig obondarev HenryG carl_baldwin: meeting courtesy ping | 21:00 |
| armax | pong | 21:00 |
| yamamoto_ | hi | 21:00 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | dougwig: I'm actually not flying this week | 21:00 |
| pc_m | hi | 21:00 |
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| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 2 21:00:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:00 |
| mestery | #chair armax | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: armax mestery | 21:01 |
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| * armax sits down | 21:01 | |
| mestery | So, we have a heavily focused Kilo-2 agenda today, so lets get at it! | 21:01 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
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| mestery | Kilo-2 is this week! If things aren't in the merge queue Wednesday, they won't make Kilo-2. | 21:01 |
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| mestery | Even if they are in the merge queue, they could miss. | 21:01 |
| carl_baldwin | pong | 21:01 |
| mestery | Note: PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS WHEN MERGING CODE THIS WEEK. | 21:02 |
| mestery | Be cautious every week, but especially when we're about to tag and release something. :) | 21:02 |
| mestery | I've been yak shaving the Kilo-2 LP page, I expect to remove more things from Kilo-2 tomorrow. | 21:02 |
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| kevinbenton_ | Who tests the tagged releases mid cycle? | 21:02 |
| mestery | kevinbenton_: All of our users. I hope. :) | 21:03 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton_: Seriously, I think distros may do some testing. | 21:03 |
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| marun | kevinbenton_: isn't the integrated gate assurance enough? ;) | 21:03 |
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| mestery | o_O | 21:03 |
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| kevinbenton_ | Ah. Most people I encounter are running master devstack if they want to try kilo | 21:04 |
| mestery | Lets move on now. | 21:04 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton_ | Sorry for derailing. Was just curious who runs the tagged releases of a dev version | 21:04 |
| mestery | enikanorov_ enikanorov__: Hi! | 21:04 |
| enikanorov_ | hi | 21:04 |
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| enikanorov_ | nothing major this week. few high-priority bugs were fixed like race with subnet deletion and DVR job failures | 21:05 |
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| enikanorov_ | the remaining important bugs are on meeting wiki page | 21:05 |
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| mestery | enikanorov_: Excellent! | 21:05 |
| enikanorov_ | mostly unchanged | 21:05 |
| mestery | enikanorov_: Thank you. | 21:05 |
| mestery | rkukura: Did you want to bringup your bugs around ML2 port binding here now? | 21:06 |
| rkukura | sure | 21:06 |
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| rkukura | Thanks to help from both armax and matrohon, we tracked down why the HPB patches were failing the DVR tempest tests. | 21:06 |
| armax | rkukura: not sure I have any merit in this, but the patch it’s on my backlog | 21:07 |
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| rkukura | I filed two bugs, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151913/ fixes both and is also the 1st step of the DVR ML2 schema/logic cleanup. | 21:07 |
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| rkukura | I think getting this patch (if not the two remaining HPB patches which I’ll update tonight) in for kilo-2 would be ideal. | 21:08 |
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| rkukura | This patch is also critical for any attempt to use the DVR VLAN support with ML2 mechanism drivers that manage switch based on port bindings. | 21:09 |
| mestery | Thanks for the update rkukura. | 21:09 |
| rkukura | Aynway, if any cores can look at it, I’d appreciate it. | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: I was planning to look at it | 21:10 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: thanks | 21:10 |
| mestery | Thanks markmcclain, armax, since this is DVR related, may be good to get you to eyeball that first patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/151913/) as well. | 21:10 |
| armax | mestery: yup it’s on my backlog, Vivek also looked at it, which is reassuring | 21:10 |
| mestery | armax: ++, thanks! | 21:11 |
| mestery | Any other bugs the team should discuss here today? | 21:11 |
| armax | there was an interesting turn of events on the DHCPNAK bug | 21:11 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152080/ | 21:11 |
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| sc68cal | +1 for that review - I wonder if that also has impact on the big thread kevinbenton_ started about dhcp lease times? | 21:12 |
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| mestery | armax: Yikes, lots to digest there. Do yo uahve a good summary for us here | 21:13 |
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| armax | mestery basically we have two compenting proposals | 21:13 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152080/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108272/ | 21:13 |
| armax | the latter is more complex and it’s been in review for a while | 21:14 |
| armax | the former is the underdog, it’s supertrivial and it does look it fixes the problem | 21:14 |
| armax | it’s almost too good to be true…so we’re being cautious, carl_baldwin may want to expand a bit, but that’s the gist of it | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | we originally made a conscious decision to not use init when we move the functionality over from nova | 21:14 |
| carl_baldwin | I think armax covered it. | 21:15 |
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| carl_baldwin | markmcclain: What was the reason for that? | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | complexity | 21:15 |
| mestery | 152080 certainly looks cleaner, looks like haleyb has an email out to the dnsmasq list for some guidance here | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | required a 2nd level of scripting hooks | 21:16 |
| mestery | haleyb: Any word back yet? | 21:16 |
| carl_baldwin | markmcclain: I think we’ve boiled a lot of complexity out of 108272. However, if there is no problem with 152080 then it will be the clear winner. | 21:16 |
| mestery | Regardless, sounds like we'll need to wait to hear back before making a decision here. | 21:16 |
| mestery | carl_baldwin: ++ | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | mestery: ++ | 21:17 |
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| mestery | OK, one more opening for bugs today before we move on. Any other bugs to discuss today? | 21:17 |
| mestery | #topic Docs | 21:18 |
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| mestery | sc68cal: Hi! Thanks for subbing for emagana. | 21:18 |
| sc68cal | np | 21:18 |
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| sc68cal | For those interested, the meeting notes from the networking guide meeting are here | 21:18 |
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| sc68cal | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-January/005776.html Networking guide meeting notes | 21:18 |
| sc68cal | We have a number of scenarios that we have put together, and it would be great for neutron folk to review, especially the DVR stuff | 21:19 |
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| sc68cal | make sure all the packet flows are correct and everything is technically sound | 21:19 |
| mestery | #info Please review the networking guide and provide feedback | 21:20 |
| sc68cal | #link https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide Networking guide scenarios | 21:20 |
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| armax | sc68cal: Swami is your man | 21:20 |
| sc68cal | agree - he's been attending the meetings iirc | 21:20 |
| Swami | armax: mestery : I have already reviewed the alpha version. | 21:20 |
| mestery | Awesome! | 21:21 |
| armax | Swami: nice | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | that's all I have, | 21:21 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Thanks! | 21:21 |
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| mestery | #topic Plugin Decomposition Status and Updates | 21:21 |
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| mestery | This is a standing item | 21:21 |
| mestery | For people to discuss issues around plugin decomposition | 21:21 |
| mestery | And for armax to provide us with other udpates here :P | 21:21 |
| mestery | Last week, we spent a lot of time here. | 21:22 |
| armax | I have a linked spreadsheet on the bp page | 21:22 |
| armax | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/core-vendor-decomposition | 21:22 |
| anteaya | we had a question in infra earlier today about a spec for testing | 21:22 |
| armax | which I use to capture the status updates | 21:22 |
| anteaya | we redirected the querent to -neutron | 21:22 |
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| mestery | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OQN0VlKzKC1gYlxgalQXKDTGGWogWFRtD3S5OpepsX4/edit?pli=1#gid=0 | 21:22 |
| mestery | This is great, thanks armax! | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: I'm sorry I must have missed that part? was the question about testing decomposed plugins? | 21:23 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: yes | 21:23 |
| armax | I update it as soon as I get to the related reviews that are in my pipeline | 21:23 |
| mestery | Looks like we ahve three completely done now (Mellanox, Midokura, and ODL). | 21:23 |
| armax | so the current snapshot may not be necessarily updated to the minute | 21:23 |
| mestery | #status 3 Plugins completely decomposed (Mellanox, Midokura, and OpenDaylight) | 21:23 |
| mestery | OK | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: what cluss of tests exactly? | 21:23 |
| dougwig | how many to go? | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: 200 | 21:24 |
| mestery | #info 3 Plugins completely decomposed (Mellanox, Midokura, and Op | 21:24 |
| mestery | lol | 21:24 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: that was what we didn't know, hence the redirect | 21:24 |
| dougwig | :) | 21:24 |
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| armax | mestery: there may be still loose ends | 21:24 |
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| salv-orlando | anteaya: I see. From our perspective I have seen different teams setting up unit tests and integration tests on 3rd party repos | 21:25 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2015-02-02.log 2015-02-02T11:44:09 <nfedotov> Hello all! Sorry if I missed something. There is a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/core-vendor-decomposition What is going to happen with Third Party CIs? Will they continue to test patchsets in openstack/neutron or they should start | 21:25 |
| anteaya | testing patchsets of appropriate repo at stackforge? | 21:25 |
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| armax | anteaya: the decomp should not change that | 21:25 |
| mestery | anteaya: they need to keep testing neutron patches | 21:25 |
| mestery | armax: ++ | 21:25 |
| anteaya | they can use our testing system for stackforge repos | 21:25 |
| anteaya | but what to test comes from neutron | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: This is what I'm doing with vmware plugins - even if decomp is not completed - test all that can affect my plugin in openstack/neutron and report there | 21:25 |
| armax | anteaya: 3rd party CI system are supposed to test whatever change impacts the solution they are meant to validate | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | plus test everything that goes in the plugin repo | 21:26 |
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| anteaya | armax: great, is there some documentation we can point them to in future? | 21:26 |
| armax | salv-orlando is right, as a matter of fact when I was in charge of the VMware CI, I was even testing Tempest changes | 21:26 |
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| armax | not sure if salv-orlando is continuing the tradition | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | armax: meh meh meh gneh gneh gneh | 21:26 |
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| armax | anteaya: it’s in the blueprint spec, if I recall correctly | 21:26 |
| armax | salv-orlando: is that a no? | 21:27 |
| anteaya | okay I will look thanks | 21:27 |
| armax | salv-orlando: or is it your cat typing? | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | armax: that's a "armax want to moan and whine because that's what he does best" | 21:27 |
| * dougwig is feeling the vmware love. | 21:27 | |
| armax | salv-orlando: ah, ok, thanks for claryfing this for the sake of others :) | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | tempest and devstack are still tested with the same paths you specified | 21:27 |
| armax | salv-orlando: oh, ya, devstack too | 21:27 |
| armax | salv-orlando: good lad | 21:28 |
| rms_13 | From the packaging perspective, does it make easier if the vendor plugin stays on stackforge? Or it should not matter! | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | rms_13: I think it doesn't, but I'm not a packager | 21:28 |
| armax | rms_13: it does not matter | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | I think packagers are happy as long as they can git pull the stuff | 21:28 |
| mestery | Or even pull a released tarball | 21:28 |
| rms_13 | Technically yes, but not sure if we has a community have a feedback from redhats or canonical | 21:29 |
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| mestery | rms_13: ihar provided this type of feedback on the spec | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | rms_13: asking on the ML won't hurt | 21:29 |
| armax | one reminder I have for people is to co-reference the bp/core-vendor-decomposition on the changes they post to gerrit | 21:29 |
| armax | so that that gets captured on the Launchpad BP page and it does not get lost | 21:29 |
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| rms_13 | armax: sounds good | 21:30 |
| mestery | Any other questions around plugin decomposition from anyone? | 21:30 |
| mestery | Good or bad experiences? | 21:30 |
| armax | mestery: I am not completed with the devref | 21:30 |
| mestery | Anyone send armax flowers yet? :) | 21:30 |
| mestery | armax: lol | 21:30 |
| mestery | whoops | 21:30 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: not flower, but perhaps bullets in an envelope | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | or pigs' heads | 21:31 |
| mestery | lol | 21:31 |
| armax | mestery: so long as I don’t see dubious packages out my front door, I am happy | 21:31 |
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| salv-orlando | so I had a little question | 21:31 |
| mestery | armax: Hint, if you open the door to a paper bag on fire, don't step on it. | 21:31 |
| mestery | :) | 21:31 |
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| armax | mestery, salv-orlando thanks for the colorful description of the packages I was alluding | 21:31 |
| Sukhdev | You guys are having too much fun :-) | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | some decomposed repos have very little patch traffic compared wiht openstack/neutron | 21:32 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: As it should be, no? | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | and some do not implement periodic CI checks, mostly because there is no translation patch for them! | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | or requirements patch for that patter | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | this means that when the release day comes | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | we might have plugin repos which have not done a CI run in like 7 or 10 days | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | what do we do about that? | 21:33 |
| armax | salv-orlando: as we mentioned earlier, the CI is supposed to test the Neutron changes | 21:33 |
| armax | salv-orlando: just as it used to | 21:33 |
| rms_13 | salv-orlando: In my opinion it should be reported | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | armax: correct, sorry about that. In a perfect world that it correct. | 21:33 |
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| salv-orlando | in a real world, we will have such plugins. | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | what do we do? | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | deprecate anyway? | 21:33 |
| marun | we need periodic jobs | 21:34 |
| rms_13 | CI should remain unchanged otherwise plugin and vendor compatibility will be out of date | 21:34 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Well, we'd have to let the plugin users know the status of their plugin backend at release. | 21:34 |
| mestery | So what about a page listing the last known good CI run? | 21:34 |
| marun | anteaya: is this is something supported by infra at this time? | 21:34 |
| mestery | At release? | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton_ | marun: i don't see why. we should just enforce that they test neutron changes | 21:34 |
| Sukhdev | salv-orlando: Arista code is out of neutron tree - but, our CI is testing every neutron patch - is that not sufficient? | 21:34 |
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| kevinbenton_ | Sukhdev: +1 | 21:34 |
| armax | a deprecation decision needs to be taken on a case by case basis, | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | Sukhdev: I am not blaming A or B or C | 21:34 |
| rms_13 | Sukhdev: +1 | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | periodic jobs work from openstack/* so I'm assuming the smae machinery is in place for stackforge/* | 21:34 |
| anteaya | marun: sweston is working on a tool called radar | 21:34 |
| marun | kevinbenton_: um, race conditions? | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton_ | salv-orlando: what about D? | 21:35 |
| anteaya | but it is in development | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | Can't understand what those +1s are for? | 21:35 |
| marun | anteaya: cool | 21:35 |
| anteaya | so doubtful it will meet your needs in time | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | well it sound like I'm appearing stupid | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | and ignorant, which I probably am | 21:35 |
| marun | anteaya: well, better late than never | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton_ | salv-orlando: no | 21:35 |
| armax | but it’s not certainly something we’re thinking of right now…this is a larger discussion that needs to happen regardless of the decomp | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton_ | salv-orlando: just wondering why testing neutron changes wasn't good enough | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton_ | but maruns point about a race condition is valid | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | armax: so that is not regulated by the spec? | 21:36 |
| anteaya | markmcclain: yes stackfore can use our periodic pipeline | 21:36 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton_: because some CIs might either fail in doing periodic jobs, or might be failing at all ;) | 21:36 |
| * salv-orlando hopes he's found a loophole in the spec | 21:36 | |
| armax | the correctness of a 4rd party CI sytem goes beyond the decomp | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton_ | salv-orlando: right, but how can we tell where a 3rd party is doing periodic jobs? | 21:36 |
| armax | *3rd | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton_ | armax: decomp just says they have to test all neutron patches, right? | 21:37 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton_: that is my question too. I guess we have to police those. It's probably not that different from before. | 21:37 |
| * armax pulls the exact wording | 21:37 | |
| salv-orlando | armax: that's not necessary, we're wasting precious time. | 21:38 |
| * mestery hands salv-orlando and kevinbenton_ their neutron CI police badges | 21:38 | |
| armax | 3rd Party CI will continue to validate vendor integration with Neutron via Tempest (e.g. functional testing); 3rd Party CI is a communication mechanism. This objective of this mechanism is threefold: | 21:38 |
| * anteaya applaudes | 21:38 | |
| armax | … | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: emagana already has that role | 21:38 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: He needs some deputies | 21:38 |
| armax | salv-orlando: you go read the reast | 21:38 |
| * anteaya nods | 21:38 | |
| armax | rest :) | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton_ | mestery: conflict of interest for both salv-orlando and myself, can't do it ;) | 21:38 |
| armax | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/core-vendor-decomposition.html | 21:38 |
| mestery | lol | 21:39 |
| armax | bottom line is: if a CI system goes tits up | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | by the way, while armax show again that the system is perfect and the people are the issue, I simply suggest that where in the previous versions we had full control over non-CI compliant plugins | 21:39 |
| armax | that has nothing to do with the decomp | 21:39 |
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| armax | why? | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | now we probably need to act differently, or perhaps not? | 21:39 |
| armax | we have full control because of the neutron in-tree vendor integration part | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton_ | salv-orlando: well we can still kick the integration point out of the tree :) | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | I guess at the end of the day we just remove from tree the integration library for | 21:40 |
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| salv-orlando | the plugins which are not running CI or are evidently broken? | 21:40 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: ++ | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | ok let's say it's sorted then | 21:40 |
| mestery | That's the stick salv-orlando | 21:40 |
| armax | if and when folks want to take everything out, they are on their own, just as it is right now | 21:40 |
| mestery | armax: Right, decomp doesn't change that. | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | mestery, armax: It's not like I want to be an annoying moron, but I've realized that the decompisition increases plugin breakage chances | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | I was indeed considering tweaking VMware CI to post also unit tests results on openstack/neutron | 21:41 |
| armax | salv-orlando: no, it increases the change of transitionary breakages | 21:41 |
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| armax | salv-orlando: that’s different | 21:41 |
| armax | :) | 21:41 |
| armax | subtle difference | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | armax: thanks for the explanation. Again the system is perfect, humans and their terrible usage of words are the problem | 21:42 |
| marun | salv-orlando: we're done nannying. | 21:42 |
| armax | salv-orlando: no system is perfect | 21:42 |
| armax | just like humans | 21:42 |
| dougwig | (as an aside: if any unit test changes as a result of a different plugin, i'd think that was a broken unit test.) | 21:42 |
| armax | who designed the system in the first place | 21:42 |
| mestery | lol | 21:43 |
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| mestery | OK, lets move on. | 21:43 |
| mestery | We've beaten this horse to death now I think. | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | meh I don't anything to add | 21:43 |
| armax | salv-orlando: thanks for the opportunity to reflect on this phylosofical matter | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: not from a different plugin change, but a core change | 21:43 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: I appreciate your thoughts, especially as it relates to agitating armax. :) | 21:43 |
| dougwig | right, but jenkins covers that? i'm missing the point of running those outside. | 21:44 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: are you accusing me of trolling | 21:44 |
| dougwig | i'm happy to move on, though | 21:44 |
| mestery | OK, lets move on to the next topic now. | 21:44 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: :P | 21:44 |
| salv-orlando | I can bring trolling to whole different levels if you want ;) | 21:44 |
| mestery | #topic Status of DVR test job and update from jogo on multi-node devstack | 21:44 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: we can trust you on that one! | 21:44 |
| mestery | On the fly agenda item! | 21:44 |
| mestery | From jogo! | 21:44 |
| jogo | and clarkb | 21:44 |
| mestery | lol | 21:44 |
| mestery | We're nothing if not adaptive to change here | 21:44 |
| * armax has a halo | 21:44 | |
| mestery | jogo clarkb: We can do multi-node now for DVR job? | 21:45 |
| jogo | so clarkb and I have been working on getting multi node devstack gate working. we have tempest smoke passing | 21:45 |
| anteaya | yay multi-node | 21:45 |
| mestery | jogo clarkb: Yay! | 21:45 |
| jogo | so the question is as mestery said, should we switch the DVR job to multinode or is that premature being single node doesn't work | 21:45 |
| Swami | great!! +1 | 21:45 |
| mestery | armax: ^^^ :) | 21:46 |
| clarkb | jogo: I have a feeling figuring it out on single node will make things much easier to switch to multinode | 21:46 |
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| clarkb | jogo: just having wrestled with a lot of the networking going on in multinode I expect that half working will only get worse under weird network setup | 21:46 |
| jogo | clarkb: possible but single node DVR as you said isn't very useful and there have seen odd edge cases that only happen on single node in the past | 21:46 |
| armax | jogo: single node DVR works fine | 21:46 |
| clarkb | jogo: easier to debug these things in isolation | 21:46 |
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| marun | armax: define 'fine' ;) | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | can I troll here too? I think multi node might expose failure modes of which we have no idea at the moment, so it is useful regardless of single-node failures. On the other hand, if the issue is consumption of testing resource, that;'s another matter | 21:47 |
| mestery | lol | 21:47 |
| clarkb | salv-orlando: no thats not the issue. The big issue so far has been lots of things break when we go to multinode | 21:47 |
| marun | armax: I think we should add a multinode job non-voting once the single node is safe to allow to vote | 21:47 |
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| marun | and then we can replace single node with multinode when mn becomes stable | 21:48 |
| clarkb | I have spent a few months now unbraeking them and if dvr doesn't work reliably in single node we should just make that work first to avoid even more broken | 21:48 |
| armax | either way, people should just pay attention to non-voting jobs just as much as the voting ones | 21:48 |
| marun | clarkb: agreed | 21:48 |
| jogo | marun: we can also add multinode to experimental if that helps | 21:48 |
| clarkb | if it does work then great | 21:48 |
| armax | just saying.. | 21:48 |
| marun | jogo: +1 | 21:48 |
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| mestery | armax: ++ | 21:48 |
| marun | armax: I'm not sure that's reasonable. | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | armax: I chased people breaking the full job for 6 months. It's your turn now ;) | 21:48 |
| marun | unless the chance of false-positives is extremely low (and I'm not sure how anyone could argue that for dvr) | 21:49 |
| jogo | side note: tempest-full multi node fails for neutron | 21:49 |
| armax | salv-orlando: that’s fine…I am just making a point | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | jogo: can I see logs for that | 21:49 |
| armax | jogo: is it in the experimental queue? | 21:49 |
| mestery | So, looks like we should focus on making the existing job working flawlessly before going muilti-node? | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | if tempest-full mn fails for neutron it's likely to fails for DVR as well | 21:50 |
| * mestery tries to summarize the discussion | 21:50 | |
| jogo | salv-orlando: http://logs.openstack.org/04/136504/14/experimental/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-aiopcpu/d700407/ | 21:50 |
| marun | mestery: +1 | 21:50 |
| clarkb | mestery: I don't think it needs to be flawless but it should have reliability that lines up with not dvr | 21:50 |
| armax | jogo: do you know what aiopcu stands for? | 21:50 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: for your summary, we need also to fix the full job on multi node possibly as a precondition for the DVR job | 21:50 |
| salv-orlando | thanks jogo | 21:50 |
| jogo | all in one p*? CPU | 21:50 |
| jogo | plus* | 21:50 |
| armax | jogo: thanks for the update | 21:50 |
| dougwig | flawless. openstack. that's quite the bar to new tests. | 21:50 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Good point | 21:51 |
| * mestery realizes flawless was the wrong word here | 21:51 | |
| jogo | so sounds like the conclusion here is, hold off on even setting up a multi node DVR | 21:51 |
| mestery | How about equal footing to the non-DVR job? | 21:51 |
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| mestery | Better? | 21:51 |
| jogo | still a lot of work to do with single node first | 21:51 |
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| jogo | mestery: is that accurate? ^ | 21:51 |
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| mestery | jogo: Well, there is work, not sure on the level. | 21:52 |
| * salv-orlando got so addicted to faulty openstack that I've installed cyanogenmod on my phone just to see it reboot from time to time | 21:52 | |
| mestery | salv-orlando: lol | 21:52 |
| mestery | OK, lets move on now. | 21:53 |
| mestery | Tahnks all | 21:53 |
| jogo | mestery: cool, once you guys are ready for multi node DVR as experimental ping me or clarkb and we can set it up | 21:53 |
| jogo | thanks | 21:53 |
| mestery | #topic nova-network to neutron migration | 21:53 |
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| mestery | anteaya markmcclain: Hi! | 21:53 |
| anteaya | jogo: guys -> y'all | 21:53 |
| armax | I think it would make sense to have multi-node on the check queue | 21:53 |
| anteaya | mestery: hey | 21:53 |
| armax | the experimental queue takes forever to execute | 21:53 |
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| mestery | anteaya: Any updates for us today? | 21:53 |
| anteaya | so status report | 21:53 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147723/ | 21:53 |
| anteaya | has a new patchset | 21:53 |
| mestery | nice | 21:54 |
| anteaya | that is the parent of the two part spec | 21:54 |
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| anteaya | we are arguing our way closer to something that can merge | 21:54 |
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| anteaya | reviews appreciated | 21:54 |
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| anteaya | we also have prototype code | 21:54 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150490/ | 21:54 |
| anteaya | is the proxy | 21:54 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148260/4 | 21:55 |
| anteaya | is the db migration | 21:55 |
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| mestery | Lots going on here it appears anteaya. | 21:55 |
| anteaya | thanks to salv-orlando and assaf and obondarev and jlibosav here | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | that sounds good to me... btw is obondarev around? | 21:55 |
| sc68cal | He's sick | 21:55 |
| anteaya | mestery: there is movement which is good to see yes | 21:55 |
| anteaya | so please review | 21:55 |
| anteaya | I would like to get part one of the spec merged soon | 21:56 |
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| salv-orlando | sc68cal: thanks for the info (troll me would have said: "are you his doctor?") | 21:56 |
| mestery | rofl | 21:56 |
| sc68cal | :) | 21:56 |
| anteaya | and then work on the wip patches which are needed to get nova agreemtn around the second part of the spec | 21:56 |
| marun | armax: it would be pretty costly, though, to add 2 dsvm nodes per check patch | 21:56 |
| anteaya | any questions? | 21:56 |
| mestery | OK, I encourage folks who are interested in helping with the migration work to reach out to anteaya and attend the weekly meeting | 21:56 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | I think we should start playing around with the migration part and see whether there is any obvious hiccup there | 21:56 |
| anteaya | done | 21:56 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: yes, please | 21:56 |
| mestery | Thanks anteaya. | 21:56 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:57 |
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| armax | marun: you already know what I’d tell you…drop the non-sensical -2 mirror jobs :P | 21:57 |
| mestery | Feel free to let your ideas flow for 3 minutes | 21:57 |
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| mestery | :) | 21:57 |
| haleyb | mestery: sorry i was late, picked a bad time to shovel show, but heard back from Simon on dnsmasq option, will pass it along to people via reviews/bug | 21:57 |
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| marun | armax: +100 from me on that one | 21:57 |
| armax | marun: and get some nodes repurposed to do something more useful | 21:57 |
| mestery | haleyb: ++, thanks! | 21:57 |
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| marun | armax: maybe that's good enough ammunication?: | 21:57 |
| marun | ammunition, sorry | 21:57 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: for the -2 jobs I'd say now they're there more for historical reasons when we needed 4 runs to have some confidence in a neutron patch | 21:58 |
| armax | marun: meaning drop the -2 clone jobs in favor of multi-host? | 21:58 |
| armax | salv-orlando: now I am the one trolling... | 21:58 |
| armax | those jobs are useless | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | the other side of the question is: does the rest of the community feel like they can trust a patch with only 2 jobs passing? | 21:58 |
| armax | and you know it as much as I do | 21:58 |
| marun | salv-orlando: lol | 21:58 |
| marun | salv-orlando: still trolling, eh? | 21:58 |
| mestery | lol | 21:58 |
| marun | salv-orlando: there are 8 jobs, anyway | 21:58 |
| otherwiseguy | mestery: I only have one more OVSD API left method to implement for the native OVSDB interface for ovs_lib. I plan on having something reviewable for it tonight. | 21:58 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: so it would be 'only 6 jobs passing' | 21:58 |
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| mestery | otherwiseguy: Thank you sir! :) | 21:59 |
| armax | frankly the -2 jobs become as useless as the non-voting ones | 21:59 |
| * mestery starts to worry when we get down to 5 jobs | 21:59 | |
| mestery | OK folks, thanks for attending the meeting today! | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | marun: methinks we can remove them | 21:59 |
| mestery | Please, please, please focus on Kilo-2 reviews for the next two days! | 21:59 |
| pc_m | mestery: Just wanted to point out that we are seeing issues where neutron changes break *aaS repo tests. | 21:59 |
| mestery | And enjoy your week! | 21:59 |
| marun | salv-orlando: who do we talk to? | 21:59 |
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| armax | even if they do unveil races, no-one pays attention to them | 21:59 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 2 22:00:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-02-02-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-02-02-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | marun: openstack-infra and openstack-qa | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-02-02-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| marun | salv-orlando: can we just propose to project-config? | 22:00 |
| mestery | pc_m: Yikes, sounds awful, I blame dougwig. ;) | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: yes, that would mean the discussion goes on gerrit | 22:00 |
| pc_m | will go to IRC... | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | I think we had over 6 months of decent reliability levels on neutron | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | wrt races | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | so perhaps we can remove those jobs | 22:01 |
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| salv-orlando | marun: I assume you know how to remove them from project-config - otherwise just ping me | 22:01 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: I'll propose immediately. | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | marun: cool | 22:02 |
| salv-orlando | point me to the patch I will add my reasons for removing them | 22:02 |
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