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| AmirBaleghi_ | hello is there any body? | 11:50 |
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| AmirBaleghi_ | I have one question | 11:51 |
| AmirBaleghi_ | do u know why do load any driver type of ml2 plugin in neuton? | 11:51 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 29 15:00:10 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:00 |
| _elena_ | o/ | 15:00 |
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| fabiog | o/ | 15:00 |
| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
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| DinaBelova | o/ | 15:01 |
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| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | hey folks, I've been on semi-PTO all this week so only partially around | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | #topic Kilo-2 status | 15:02 |
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| mmester | lucky you | 15:02 |
| eglynn | LOL :) | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/kilo-2 | 15:02 |
| eglynn | so we've got a fair few BPs yet to land before next week | 15:02 |
| ildikov | mmester: from the PTO PoV for sure :) | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | most are in pretty good shape | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | except the hyper-V related BPs are showing a great deal of progress | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | I'm planning to punt these to kilo-3 if we don't see something my EoW | 15:04 |
| eglynn | *by EoW | 15:04 |
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| eglynn | any other concerns for kilo-2? | 15:04 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: the conf store bp will be addressed by 3 patches, 1 in kilo2 and 2 in kilo3 | 15:04 |
| fabiog | eglynn: the kilo 2 is ready for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142592/ | 15:05 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: so you've taken over shepharding from nealph_afk? | 15:05 |
| cdent | Is the base gabbi/http-test stuff enough to say phase one is done or should I lay in a few more tests? | 15:05 |
| fabiog | eglynn: yes | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | cdent: the more tests the better, but what's proposed is prolly enough to declare vistory for k2 I think | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: so I'll target this to kilo-2 in LP? ... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store | 15:07 |
| cdent | I've moved on/over to gnocchi for the moment to see what issues a different evironment reveals. | 15:07 |
| fabiog | eglynn: we are going to have 3 patches | 15:07 |
| eglynn | cdent: coolness, makes sense | 15:07 |
| fabiog | eglynn: the first is storage and we would like to land it in K2 | 15:07 |
| fabiog | then API and Agents and these will land in K3 | 15:08 |
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| fabiog | makes sense? | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, and API stuff will be implemented by idegtiarov for kilo-3 | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | with client-side | 15:08 |
| eglynn | fabiog: yep ... so when we discussed with this Phil before, IIRC we decided to have 2/3 blueprints in launchpad for tracking purposes | 15:08 |
| eglynn | fabiog: the first BP was to capture what was planned for kilo-2 | 15:09 |
| eglynn | fabiog: the other one or two BPs were to capture what was planned for kilo-3 | 15:09 |
| fabiog | eglynn: ok, do I need to do something or these bp are already aligned? | 15:09 |
| eglynn | fabiog: so is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store currently the only LP BP registered for this? | 15:09 |
| fabiog | eglynn: I think so | 15:09 |
| fabiog | the patch partially implements it | 15:10 |
| nealph | eglynn, fabiog: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/configdb-api is registered for the api work. | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | nealph: was there a specific LP BP intended for the kilo-2 work? | 15:10 |
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| nealph | eglynn: as you noted, the thought was to have the original bp targeted for Kilo-2 | 15:11 |
| eglynn | nealph: e.g. ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store==>kilo-2, configdb-api==>kilo-3? | 15:11 |
| nealph | that ^^^. :) | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | nealph: coolness | 15:11 |
| fabiog | eglynn: can we use https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store and create another one for the agents? | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: yep, I've just targeted ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store tp kilo-2 | 15:12 |
| fabiog | eglynn: ok, but there is the agent specific work that will go to Kilo-3 and it is dependent on the API | 15:12 |
| eglynn | fabiog: ... and yes, please register a fresh one for the agents if it's a standalone tranch of work | 15:12 |
| fabiog | eglynn: got it | 15:12 |
| fabiog | thanks | 15:13 |
| eglynn | fabiog: cool ... once you've registered the agents BP, I'll target to kilo-3 | 15:13 |
| eglynn | fabiog: thank you sir! | 15:13 |
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| eglynn | anything else for kilo-2? | 15:13 |
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| eglynn | cool enough, moving onwards ... | 15:15 |
| eglynn | #topic gnocchi status | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | fabiog did an interesting g+ hangout earlier in the week on gnocchi measure batching | 15:15 |
| eglynn | ... was that recorded BTW? | 15:15 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: not sure, I think it wasn't | 15:16 |
| fabiog | but I posted the deck | 15:16 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, eglynn - sadly I should mention I'm kind of stolen a little bit to one more Mirantis project for now, so I'll slow down work on gnocchi a little bit. I'll finish for sure my current patches, but I suppose that lots of my ideas will be going through ityaptin :) | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova | I hope that's not more than for one month | 15:17 |
| eglynn | fabiog: fair enough, yeah the slides will be good for anyone who missed to catch up | 15:17 |
| DinaBelova | fabiog, I'm having going through them in my TODO | 15:17 |
| fabiog | eglynn: http://www.slideshare.net/FabioGiannetti/gnocchi-batching | 15:17 |
| ityaptin | fabiog: Thanks! | 15:17 |
| ildikov | the slides: http://www.slideshare.net/FabioGiannetti/gnocchi-batching | 15:17 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: fair enough, thanks for the heads up on that | 15:17 |
| eglynn | fabiog, ildikov: thanks! | 15:17 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: I saw the mid-point reviews were due for the OPW, all good on that score? | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova | fabiog - possibly you may take a look on one my gnocchi change (wip for now, hope to finish debugging to eow) - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148271/ | 15:18 |
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| fabiog | DinaBelova: will do ;-) | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes - and we've decided to focus on KairosDB driver | 15:19 |
| cdent | I have generic testing-related question that has come up as a result of prodding at gnocchi: to what extent is it important for the internal wsgi/pecan app to be robust in the face of missing data that can only be missing if keystonemiddleware is either not there or for some reason broken | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | that's enough module-maintaing thing | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | good research, etc. | 15:19 |
| cdent | for example if the x-user-id header has not been produced | 15:19 |
| DinaBelova | I've spoken with opw folks, they are ok with this task | 15:20 |
| DinaBelova | even if it was delayed | 15:20 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: coolness, thanks | 15:20 |
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| eglynn | cdent: I'm not sure I understand the question ... if x-user-id is not set, then the auth token verification would have failed, in which case the dispatch path should be cut short and rejected with a 403? | 15:21 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... a-ha you mean if the keystone authtoken m/w is completely absent? | 15:22 |
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| cdent | yes | 15:22 |
| cdent | because when testing the internal app you don't want to also be testing keystone | 15:22 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent, yeah... | 15:22 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: does kairosdb make justinb's cassandra work useless? | 15:22 |
| gordc | from metering pov | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, not fully, actually.... but - there is kind of intersection for sure | 15:23 |
| eglynn | cdent: so for the first few months of its existence, the default mode for gnocchi was no keystone IIRC | 15:23 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... and I don't remember that being problematic | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | gordc, anyway usage of kairosdb will need lots of efforts due to the same problems we're facing with opentsdb | 15:23 |
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| DinaBelova | (speaking about data retention, etc.) | 15:24 |
| cdent | the current concrete problem that I'm encountering eglynn, is that a sqlalchemy exception reaches the surface if you provide not x-user-id when creating a resource | 15:24 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: ok. i'll keep that in mind next time i speak with justinb | 15:24 |
| cdent | it seems that should be transformed to something less data layer exposing | 15:24 |
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| cdent | but since it is "impossible" by some defintions, it may not be that relevant | 15:24 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, yeah - so possibly in the neasrest future kairosdb driver will have the limited functionality, comparing with justinb directly-ceilo solution | 15:24 |
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| DinaBelova | that does not face pre-aggregation issues, etc. | 15:25 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: i see.. (i'll try to dig into it when i find some time) | 15:25 |
| eglynn | cdent: a-ha, got it ... the created_by fields etc. were added *after* the keystone intregration was done, and that logic is probably not tolerant to the x-{user|project}-id headers being missing | 15:25 |
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| DinaBelova | gordc, yeah, feel free to ping me or ityaptin about this | 15:25 |
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| gordc | DinaBelova: will do. | 15:26 |
| cdent | exactly eglynn so my question boils down to: do we regard that to be a bug | 15:26 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: kairosdb has no native downsampling support? | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn - it has the same big-table concept underlaying | 15:26 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: I'll may ping you too, as I'm just about the help eglynn to get the Influx driver in shape, so I thought to try to get more knowledge about OpenTSDB too, to see what are the common things | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova | and all things like compaction are supposed to be done periodically | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, yeah, for sure :) | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn ^^ and out of concrete storage layer | 15:27 |
| eglynn | cdent: yes, I think it should be possible to work without keystone | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova | cassandra and hbase have much in common in this case | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, cdent - yep, otherwise it'll be the complete hell to test it | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | :( | 15:28 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: I was just wondering if there are some common behaviors of these DBs, then we might not want to rewrite them, but anyway, let's chat about that some time and then we will see :) | 15:28 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, yeah. let's do that | 15:28 |
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| ildikov | DinaBelova: cool, thanks in advance :) | 15:29 |
| eglynn | ok, cool | 15:29 |
| fabiog | ildikov: DinaBelova please include me in DB related discussions when you have one :-) | 15:30 |
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| DinaBelova | fabiog, ok, sure :) | 15:30 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I planned to have it on the channel, will ping you then | 15:30 |
| fabiog | ildikov: I can offer a phone bridge, if that helps ... | 15:30 |
| eglynn | notable patches that landed this week include a new capability API to expose support aggregation methods and a simple carbonara CLI | 15:30 |
| eglynn | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:stackforge/gnocchi,n,z | 15:31 |
| ildikov | fabiog: and of course we will schedule it to fit your TZ too :) | 15:31 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: the channel has the advantage of logging | 15:31 |
| eglynn | and the devstack plugin is nice addition, anyone using that regularly? | 15:31 |
| fabiog | ildikov: sure | 15:31 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: and I'm also in learning phase as for InfluxDB, so maybe we will not need voice at this stage, but thanks, it can be useful later, when we have some progress for sure | 15:32 |
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| eglynn | anything else on the gnocchi work? | 15:34 |
| eglynn | k, moving onwards ... | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | #topic open discussion | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | who'd have thunk that Lemming-gate would blow up like that? | 15:36 |
| cdent | teapots | 15:37 |
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| gordc | lemming-gate? | 15:37 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: one question: where new api features should be added in v2 or in v3 | 15:37 |
| eglynn | gordc: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-January/055338.html | 15:37 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I was on a soft-skill traning in the last two days, I'm braindead ;) | 15:37 |
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| gordc | ah one of those tl;dr emails | 15:38 |
| eglynn | idegtiarov: well, the v2 API is going to be around for a while, so you can continue to improve it in incremental ways | 15:38 |
| idegtiarov | eglynn: got it, thanks | 15:38 |
| eglynn | ildikov: ... i.e. no need to consider it frozen as yet | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | gordc: yeah, drama-of-the-week | 15:39 |
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| nealph | a quick note from me.... | 15:40 |
| cdent | gnocchi doesn't appear to have its own launchpad setup, so where does one report bugs? | 15:40 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: I meant that no thoughts should be expected from me, but reading it back it's really not that funny :) | 15:40 |
| eglynn | nealph: the floor is your's sir! | 15:40 |
| nealph | just wanted to note that I'll be stepping away from ceilometer. :( | 15:40 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, directly to jd__ )))) | 15:41 |
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| cdent | nealph: :( | 15:41 |
| eglynn | nealph: well thank you for your contributions up to now | 15:41 |
| nealph | certainly...have appreciated working with all you folks! | 15:41 |
| DinaBelova | nealph, I was really happy to work with you on this project :) | 15:41 |
| fabiog | nealph: Phil, thanks for all the hard work you put on the project. We really appreciate it! | 15:41 |
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| cdent | who will be getting the benefit of your skills now? | 15:42 |
| nealph | cdent: still within HP, away from OpenStack I'm afraid. | 15:42 |
| ityaptin | nealph: It was cool to work with you on ceilo :) | 15:42 |
| cdent | I shall miss grousing with you when everyone else is at summit. | 15:43 |
| ildikov | nealph: :( | 15:43 |
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| nealph | cdent: ha, yes. | 15:43 |
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| nealph | keep up the good work, all. :) | 15:43 |
| ildikov | nealph: wish you luck and joy on the new area! | 15:43 |
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| nealph | ildikov: thank you much! | 15:43 |
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| eglynn | cdent: a proper launchpad footprint will be required once jd__ has big-tented gnocchi under the openstack namespace | 15:45 |
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| eglynn | cdent: ... in fact, it should really have it now even under stackforge | 15:45 |
| eglynn | (IIRC other stackforge projects such as tooz and packstack do) | 15:45 |
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| eglynn | anything else anyone? | 15:47 |
| mmester | is there any plans to get OVS stats into ceilometer? | 15:48 |
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| eglynn | mmester: I don't know of any specific plans, nothing on our immediate roadmap at least | 15:49 |
| eglynn | mmester: how are these stats surfaced by ovs? | 15:49 |
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| mmester | eglynn: not sure exactly. :/ | 15:50 |
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| mmester | eglynn: ill work on it and put up a BP so at least we have a record of it somewhere | 15:50 |
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| eglynn | mmester: excellent, thank you sir! | 15:51 |
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| eglynn | k, let's close a few mins early so if there's nothing else | 15:51 |
| eglynn | thanks folks! | 15:51 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 15:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 29 15:51:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-01-29-15.00.html | 15:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-01-29-15.00.txt | 15:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-01-29-15.00.log.html | 15:52 |
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