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| krotscheck | #startmeeting StoryBoard | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 15:00:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
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| jeblair | o/ | 15:00 |
| krotscheck | Neat. Anyone else? | 15:00 |
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| krotscheck | I’ll take that as a no. | 15:00 |
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| krotscheck | Agenda! | 15:01 |
| krotscheck | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard#Agenda | 15:01 |
| krotscheck | #topic Discussion: Story Tags | 15:01 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: Take it away! | 15:01 |
| ttx | yay | 15:01 |
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| ttx | it's actually story types, not tags | 15:02 |
| mordred | ttx: we ahve AFS now, so you could implement story types with AFS | 15:02 |
| * mordred runs away | 15:02 | |
| krotscheck | define AFS? | 15:02 |
| krotscheck | Andrew File System? | 15:02 |
| ttx | We can implement anything with AFS. | 15:02 |
| mordred | krotscheck: yes | 15:02 |
| ttx | that's the beauty of ity | 15:02 |
| mordred | but I'm kidding in this instance | 15:02 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129267/ | 15:02 |
| jedimike | ttx, and zombo.com | 15:02 |
| ttx | so this is the spec I wrote | 15:02 |
| ttx | I simplified compared to the wiki @ https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Story_Types | 15:03 |
| ttx | If the general idea is acceptable, I would recommend just starting with features and bugs | 15:03 |
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| ttx | then tackle the vulnerability case (which requires the privacy aspect) | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | That seems like a good place to start. | 15:04 |
| ttx | I think types are different enough from tags | 15:04 |
| ttx | especially from the "must have one and only one type" aspect | 15:04 |
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| mordred | yah. | 15:04 |
| ttx | that they require their own column | 15:04 |
| krotscheck | Right, and from a UI perspective making them merged is somewhat confusing. | 15:05 |
| mordred | not that github is a great example of what to do... but even they have types (bug, pr, etc) and tags - I think largely because of UI sanity | 15:05 |
| ttx | ideally you should be able to grasp if you're looking at a feature story, a bug story or a vulnerability story just by loking at the page | 15:05 |
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| krotscheck | If you see: ‘release-icehouse’, ‘bug’, ‘storyboard’, ‘storyboard-webclient”, what exactly is what in that list? | 15:05 |
| ttx | could be color, could be a prominent icon | 15:05 |
| ttx | krotscheck: ++ | 15:05 |
| ttx | so in summary, please review spec | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | yay, specs! | 15:06 |
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| ttx | I dropped the idea to have "inherited" types like "regression" | 15:06 |
| ttx | I think that can be done as Tags over a bug | 15:06 |
| jedimike | i would like to help on this story when the spec is agreed | 15:06 |
| krotscheck | jedimike: sure! Ask in the channel and I’ll point you in the right direction :) | 15:07 |
| ttx | to justify a type, it needs to trigger a specific workflow imho | 15:07 |
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| jeblair | the spec looks good; i can put it on the priority specs list in the infra meeting to let people know it's ready for review | 15:07 |
| ttx | so in theory we could have "wireframe" as a type that would trigger some special tooling in the story | 15:07 |
| ttx | but I don't think we should subtype for regressions or "feature-that-reduces-technical-debt" | 15:08 |
| ttx | jeblair: cool | 15:08 |
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| krotscheck | What’s a workflow? Is that included in this spec? | 15:08 |
| * krotscheck opens that can of worms. | 15:09 | |
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| ttx | krotscheck: by workflow I mean, some actions in the UI are restricted based on type | 15:10 |
| ttx | for example, you can't target a feature story task to a stable branch | 15:11 |
| krotscheck | Alright. For me workflow means that there’s a state machine that gets triggered. | 15:11 |
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| ttx | no state machine :) | 15:11 |
| krotscheck | ….well, validation rules are a certain kind of state machine, no? | 15:11 |
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| ttx | it's just that the UI is aware otf types | 15:11 |
| ttx | while it's unaware of tags | 15:11 |
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| fungi | definitely a separate concept from the traditional "workflow management" software design you find in large companies | 15:12 |
| * mordred thinks krotscheck and ttx may be talking at different detail levels | 15:12 | |
| krotscheck | How about I look at the spec and we go from there :) | 15:12 |
| ttx | yeah, sounds like the right first step | 15:12 |
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| krotscheck | Alrightey, anything else before we move on? | 15:12 |
| ttx | nothing from me | 15:12 |
| krotscheck | #topic Summit! | 15:12 |
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| krotscheck | Infra is still talking about what goes into the infra track. | 15:13 |
| krotscheck | I don’t think an official decision on whether SB is in that has been reached yet, is that correct jeblair | 15:13 |
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| krotscheck | ? | 15:13 |
| jeblair | correct, i think we'll focus on that this meeting | 15:14 |
| krotscheck | Cool | 15:14 |
| jeblair | what's on the table? | 15:14 |
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| jeblair | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-infrastructure-summit-topics | 15:15 |
| jeblair | is our brainstorming etherepad and IT HAS GOTTEN BIGGER | 15:15 |
| krotscheck | Well, storyboard is item #2 on that list. | 15:15 |
| jeblair | "Current features, feature roadmap, project migration targets - krotscheck" | 15:16 |
| jeblair | what concrete outcomes would we want from that? | 15:16 |
| krotscheck | Honestly I want to use this summit to impress on people that yes: StoryBoard is coming, and Yes: They will be using it inside of a year, and Yes: If they want to have any say in how their project is managed they need to start contributing. | 15:16 |
| jeblair | doing that in the infra track is likely to be preaching to the choir | 15:17 |
| jeblair | there might be people in the room that don't already know that, but we shouldn't count on it | 15:17 |
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| ttx | yeah, was wondering if we could try to abuse one of the "grwoth issues" cross-project workshops to mention that | 15:18 |
| ttx | err growth | 15:18 |
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| jeblair | the conference, or potentially the cross-project track would be better for that. | 15:18 |
| ttx | and then talk storyboard at the infra meetup | 15:18 |
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| krotscheck | *shrug*. My conference (not summit) proposal was declined. | 15:18 |
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| jeblair | yeah. i don't think storyboard is ready for a full cross-project session yet | 15:18 |
| ttx | with people interested to join | 15:18 |
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| jeblair | ttx: but certainly bringing it up in the context you mentioned would be good | 15:19 |
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| jeblair | we can try to get that message out :) | 15:19 |
| jeblair | but for the infra session -- probably the best use of time is to get f2f time to discuss tricky new features, or plan our implementation in more detail | 15:20 |
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| jeblair | i feel like we still have a handle on where we need to get to in the next few months, so i don't want to just repeat what we already know there | 15:20 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so it sounds like it’s less of an infra session thing, and more of a meetup thing? | 15:20 |
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| jeblair | but if there are topics that are a bit further down the road that you think it would be good to discuss, we can target that | 15:21 |
| krotscheck | I can’t think of any. The big one that I’ve been noodling over is how to allow infra to extend storyboard for integration purposes, but stevedore solved that rather neatly. | 15:22 |
| jeblair | we're extending storyboard for integration purposes? | 15:22 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: We’re providing a plugin system by which, if you so desire, you can write a plugin that can talk to things like zuul. And I’m using the email feature as a canary. | 15:23 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: you're considering the email feature a plugin? | 15:23 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: i don't expect to write any plugins for storyboard. | 15:24 |
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| mordred | I think plugins are a great idea given the number of downstreams we have that consume things we do | 15:24 |
| jeblair | (to close out the summit topic -- if you have something concrete you'd like to get out of the session, please think about that and add it to the etherpad. i think we'd be happy to have a storyboard session, as long as it's useful. i don't want to have one just for the sake of form) | 15:24 |
| krotscheck | kk | 15:25 |
| jeblair | mordred: sure. just trying to figure out what we're talking about :) | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | Ok, so before we go down the “plugins wat” topic, one more summit topic I want to mention. | 15:25 |
| NikitaKonovalov | o/ | 15:25 |
| krotscheck | T-Shirts. http://www.customink.com/designs/storyboard/etb0-0014-66bc - | 15:25 |
| NikitaKonovalov | sorry I'm late | 15:25 |
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| * krotscheck was a little late to the game on ordering them, and now only a rush order will do. Do we care enough? | 15:26 | |
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| krotscheck | If not, I’m just going to get one for myself, because I REALLY need to advocate at the summit. | 15:27 |
| mordred | I will wear one - but also it's paris and will be cold, so it's possible nobody will know whne I do | 15:27 |
| ttx | krotscheck: maybe not worth a rush order | 15:27 |
| krotscheck | I expect being indoors will help. | 15:27 |
| ttx | it's November. It's cold inside too. | 15:27 |
| jeblair | i think the biggest advocacy we could do is move infra to storyboard | 15:28 |
| ttx | Although we have a lovely 80°F this weekend | 15:28 |
| ttx | had* | 15:28 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: That’ll expose storyboard to devs. I want to talk to influencers. | 15:29 |
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| krotscheck | ‘cause, well, they’re the ones who can hire people to help out :) | 15:29 |
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| krotscheck | But it sounds like interest is lukewarm. | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | So meh. Moving on. | 15:30 |
| jeblair | this is kind of going off-topic. but in our community, quite a number of devs are influencers. that's kinda one of the things we like about it. :) | 15:30 |
| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1 | 15:30 |
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| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1: Subscription | 15:30 |
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| krotscheck | I believe the last UI piece has landed so we can demonstrate that it’s working. The UI is less than ideal (no click through yet), but it’s all up there. | 15:31 |
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| krotscheck | Looks like either my browser’s cache is still old, or the client hasn’t been updated on s.o.o yet | 15:32 |
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| jeblair | http://puppetboard.openstack.org/node/storyboard.openstack.org | 15:32 |
| jeblair | puppet is current on it | 15:32 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | krotscheck: may be we shall add a commit id somehow to be displayed on the page | 15:32 |
| krotscheck | NikitaKonovalov: Good idea. | 15:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | so we always know what's running | 15:33 |
| NikitaKonovalov | actually it will be better to expose API-side commit also | 15:33 |
| krotscheck | Ok, added #318 | 15:34 |
| * krotscheck makes a note to keep track of the server to make sure it’s all working. | 15:34 | |
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| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1 Project Groups | 15:35 |
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| mordred | krotscheck: we probably want a way to see shas of storyboard and storyboard-webclient, fwiw | 15:35 |
| mordred | krotscheck: but the second probably takes a little bit more work | 15:35 |
| krotscheck | mordred: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/318 | 15:35 |
| mordred | krotscheck: yes. I agree with that story | 15:35 |
| krotscheck | Lots of work on project groups, including test coverage and other fun things. | 15:36 |
| krotscheck | A bunch of them have already landed. | 15:36 |
| krotscheck | The big outstanding one is the import script. | 15:36 |
| krotscheck | Anyone feel excited about trying that? | 15:37 |
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| jeblair | krotscheck: what do you mean by 'trying'? | 15:37 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: “build it" | 15:37 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: oh, adding project group support to the import script? | 15:38 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Yes. | 15:38 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: load projects should also read the -groups tag that we argued about so much a few weeks ago, and should do it in a way that removes groups that don’t exist anymore. | 15:39 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: sounds reasonable | 15:39 |
| krotscheck | ttx: Any thoughts on that? | 15:39 |
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| ttx | krotscheck: if "that" is the -groups tag read, makes sense to me | 15:41 |
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| krotscheck | ttx: Well, the downside of that would be that the Admin Project Groups UI wouldn’t really let you add custom, non-config-file defined groups. | 15:41 |
| krotscheck | But if you’re cool with that we can move forward. | 15:41 |
| ttx | fine by me | 15:42 |
| krotscheck | Alright. | 15:42 |
| fungi | we have very effective mechanisms in place to propose changes to config files ;) | 15:42 |
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| krotscheck | So, work is ongoing on proejct groups, with only one feature remaining and the other ones either proposed or merged. | 15:43 |
| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1: Tags | 15:43 |
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| krotscheck | NikitaKonovalov: This one’s yours. | 15:43 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | Sorry to say but I had no chance to fix that migration | 15:44 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I'll do my best to fix it | 15:44 |
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| krotscheck | Alright. | 15:44 |
| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1 Email | 15:44 |
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| NikitaKonovalov | I guess that will be the only change needed for API side | 15:44 |
| krotscheck | oops. | 15:45 |
| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1: Tags | 15:45 |
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| krotscheck | There’s a bit of UI work needed, no? | 15:45 |
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| krotscheck | Ok, silence. back to email | 15:46 |
| krotscheck | #topic MVP 1.1 Email | 15:46 |
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| krotscheck | I started working on email. | 15:47 |
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| krotscheck | Identified a couple of things we needed. Firstly, user preferences that are persisted on the server (Yes I want emails, no I don't). | 15:47 |
| krotscheck | Secondly: Some kind of a cron scheduled worker. | 15:47 |
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| krotscheck | I’ve got patches up for the first, and a WIP for the second. | 15:47 |
| krotscheck | In both cases, I opted for making them pluggable. | 15:48 |
| jeblair | i have some domain expertise here; i should try to review those | 15:48 |
| krotscheck | Would love your feedback. | 15:48 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: The review tree starts here (having a pep issue atm) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128487/ | 15:49 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: can you elaborate on the decision to make it pluggable? are you trying to keep the core small and modular and define good interfaces for extending functionality? | 15:49 |
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| ttx | be back in a few | 15:50 |
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| ttx | false alarm, back | 15:50 |
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| krotscheck | jeblair: Basically. Plus, I want to draw a clear line between the web service and other things that get triggered due to the web service. | 15:51 |
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| jeblair | okay, makes sense. it sounds like email will be an "in-tree" plugin (i think email support is a batteries-included kind of feature and should be easy to enable)? that sounds great | 15:53 |
| krotscheck | I also feel that mordred’s point is apropos: Consumption of StoryBoard downstream will hopefully become a thing, and it will be an easier thing if downstream can add their own bits. | 15:53 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Yep. Same with subscriptions, federation, and hopefully (eventually) auth delegation. | 15:53 |
| jeblair | groovy | 15:53 |
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| krotscheck | Also, Stevedore is neat. | 15:54 |
| krotscheck | The whole “Oh you have this thing installed in your venv? Lemme run that for you!” thing is neat. A little frightening, but neat. | 15:54 |
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| * krotscheck idly wonders if there will eventually be a storyboard-report-everhthing-to-the-man plugin. | 15:54 | |
| krotscheck | But I digress. | 15:55 |
| mordred | yah. I think it fits well with the "it's unlikley you're going to install storyboard plugins and then not want to actually use them" | 15:55 |
| jeblair | krotscheck: that's the stackalytics plugin ;) | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | HAH | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | Nice. | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | But yeah, exactly. | 15:55 |
| krotscheck | So given user preferences, and a cron hook, and an API event hook, we’ve got the pieces necessary to make emails work. | 15:55 |
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| krotscheck | My approach is to build an event hook that saves relevant subscription data to a file per user, then use the cron hook to send the emails on a user-defined schedule. | 15:56 |
| jeblair | so if we want emails to be sent instantly? | 15:56 |
| krotscheck | jeblair: Probably a second event hook. The WIP email patch here includes the configuration options in question: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129091/1/storyboard/plugin/email/preferences.py | 15:57 |
| jeblair | k, i'll take a look | 15:58 |
| ttx | right, could be different. one is a notification, the other a digest | 15:58 |
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| krotscheck | yep. | 15:58 |
| krotscheck | The only tricky thing would then be ‘hey do you want that event as a digest or as an instant notification'. | 15:58 |
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| krotscheck | But that, I feel, goes back to allowing a user to list and manage their subscriptions. | 15:59 |
| jeblair | yeah. i know a lot of folks for whom bug email is instant notification (and in fact, just slots in with their normal email workflow) | 15:59 |
| mordred | amusingly, user management of subscriptions was a feature that launchpad added something like 6 years after the service was launched | 15:59 |
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| jeblair | but i defn see the use case for digests | 16:00 |
| mordred | or for no mail | 16:00 |
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| krotscheck | yep | 16:00 |
| mordred | I, for one, still wish launchpad emailed me less | 16:00 |
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| krotscheck | So that’s it for email. and we’re out of time! | 16:01 |
| krotscheck | Thanks everyone! | 16:01 |
| krotscheck | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 16:01:15 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| ttx | I think if you need LP emails, it's because LP doesn't let you organize the stuff you care about in a useful way | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-10-20-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-10-20-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2014/storyboard.2014-10-20-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| ttx | and like always, email fills the void left between more appropriate tools | 16:01 |
| krotscheck | ttx: yep | 16:02 |
| jeblair | ttx: we're going to argue about that over beer! :) | 16:02 |
| ttx | email is the ultimate fallback | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 16:02:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | sorry guys | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:02 |
| ttx | rakhmerov: be my guest :) | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | thanks! | 16:02 |
| dzimine | hi here | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | hi Dmitri | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | how are you? | 16:03 |
| bhavenst | hi | 16:03 |
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| bhavenst | long time no type | 16:03 |
| dzimine | hi bhavenst | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | hey bryan | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | how have you been? | 16:04 |
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| bhavenst | doing fine, just busy @ work. But letting up so have been starting work on blueprints.. | 16:04 |
| nikolaym | hi ! | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, very cool | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:05 |
| dzimine | I was talking about Mistral on openstack automation meetup, and got a strong feedback about need of ceilometer integration, exactly along the lines of Brian's blueprint. | 16:05 |
| akuznetsova_ | Hi, sorry, I am late | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | sorry for not sending out an agenda, i've been really really busy these days | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | yeaah, that is cool | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | hi Nastya :) | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | we didn't have any AIs from last meetings, they were really short | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | some folks were on vacations or busy with something | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | so let's go straight to the current status | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status (by team members) | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | my status for the last couple of weeks is: I've been working mostly on bugs (both client and server), working on the examples, and preparing presentations | 16:08 |
| nikolaym | Almost all last week I worked on for-each, it just works fine now | 16:08 |
| akuznetsova_ | I've added simple positive and negative tests for cron- triggers (API and CLI integration tests) | 16:08 |
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| bhavenst | Starting thinking about metrics blueprints, sent questions to Ceilometer person, started an etherpad.. | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | I still need to review it | 16:08 |
| nikolaym | And today I found bug with auth in std.http | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | bhavenst, could you please send it out via openstack-dev? | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | nikolaym, ok, I saw your patch | 16:09 |
| bhavenst | Yeah, can do that when it's a bit more refined. :) | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | as far as for-each | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | what Nikolay did looks ok | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | however, looks like we have some serious design issue | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | basically we have race condition between some transactions | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | in our engine | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | and in case of for-each it gets clearly revealed | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | the point is that when engine starts the workflow it creates all the tasks in DB (and execution) and currently we start tasks from within the same transaction | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | and there's a reason for this although it's considered anti-pattern | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | I mean to call any external things from DB transactions like rabbit mq | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | so it may happen that task is finished and its result comes back to engine before that first transaction completes | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | it on_task_resul() method won't find a task in DB | 16:14 |
| dzimine | oh, nice. | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | I thought in case of READ_COMMITTED transactions there shouldn't be race conditions because the second transaction should block on the same object that is not committed yet | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | but either 1) I was wrong 2) or we are doing something inproperly somewhere else | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | e.g. configuring transaction isolation level | 16:16 |
| bhavenst | I hit something similar many times during testing of the failed workflow bug I worked on, but that was before the refactoring so not sure if it applies. | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | so it's something that we need to test more carefully | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | it might | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:16 |
| bhavenst | Multiple tasks doing things like echos, which I guess are fast enough to cause such an issue | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | well, first of all, if you run mistral for something serious (not unit tests) then forget about sqlite | 16:17 |
| dzimine | foreach exacerbates the problem indeed. Now we have many (way too many) calls to rabbit within transactional scope. | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | yes, bhavenst, exactly! | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | 100% right | 16:17 |
| bhavenst | My solution was to add sleeps. :) | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | yeah, that's what Nikolay did I guess to make it work | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | so the two obvious options (ooh god, we discussed it already so many times): | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | 1) run tasks after transaction completes | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | 2) leave as is and use something to do proper synchronization (even though it's not clear to me) | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | option 1 has a problem of being vulnerable for failures | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | so if engine fails right after transaction and before pushing tasks into rabbit then the system will end up in an inconsistent state | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | and there will be no way to figure out if some tasks have already been put into rabbit | 16:21 |
| dzimine | this is de-ja-vu. I need to recall all the details on the arguments we did... | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | so in other words, our DB state won't correspond to the state of the MQ | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | I think it's kinda challenge to discuss it in IRC for it being too complicated problem | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | but I'm just asking you to think about it if you have a chance | 16:22 |
| dzimine | I recall we discussed "QUEING" status for a task.. | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | you may come up with some ideas | 16:23 |
| dzimine | suggest we set up a time to brainstorm it. | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:23 |
| bhavenst | Are you guys going to be @ Paris summit? | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | so I'm just letting you know... | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | we are | 16:23 |
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| bhavenst | ok cool, I'll be there too | 16:23 |
| dzimine | outside of this meeting (or if we have time left) | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | it may be a good time to get back to that problem | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, nice | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | I don't think we can fix it before the summit anyway | 16:24 |
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| dzimine | how will it work (or rather "not work") in between? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | there's just a fundumental problem of keeping two systems (DB and MQ) in a consistent state | 16:24 |
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| dzimine | fast tasks will fail? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | surprisingly, it mostly works unless we don't use something like 'for-each' | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | I think the reason is that we always run tasks via oslo | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | even echo :) | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | again, I'm still hoping that we just need to cofigure mysql properly | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | but | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | it may not really be helpful | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | so, the general problem is keeping two systems in sync | 16:26 |
| dzimine | the direction I will be thinking is "to rely on one source of truth", not DB and MQ. Use DB as a source of truth. | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | usually people use something like XA transactions for this | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | which are not available at this point for us | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | may be | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | we could even pass it by somehow if say executors could access DB | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | but not really likely | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | let's move on now, just asking you to think about it again | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | w/o it the system won't actually work on any more or less serious load | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | another thing I was planning to discuss really quick is our planned release 0.2 | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Release 0.2 | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/0.2 | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | the thing is that looks like we're seriously behind the schedule with it | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | basically we have just 9 business days left | 16:30 |
| bhavenst | If there is anything relatively simple I don't mind taking it, since blueprints are not at all pressing. | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | and our resources turned to be not enough because Nikolay and I got buried with a lot of unplanned stuff | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:31 |
| dzimine | winson has done #1380873 locally, expect it on review today/tomorrow. | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | ok, that's good | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | bhavenst, let me see what we have | 16:31 |
| bhavenst | sure | 16:31 |
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| dzimine | but he and I won't have time to do events mistral-event-listeners-http | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | but generally the situation is that of 9 days I have effectively 4-5 days, the rest I'll have to spend on summit preps and other activities | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | Nikolay too | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I see | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | so two options again: | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | 1) we shrink the scope of 0.2 and push it on Oct 31 as planned | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | 2) we move the due date 2-3 weeks further | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | what do you think? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | I guess what we could do is: | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | (by "do" I mean complete) | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-direct-workflow-join-control | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | 2. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-pause-before-policy (btw, this one should be pretty easy and I could assign it to Bryan) | 16:35 |
| akuznetsova_ | There will be holiday in Russia and Paris summit, so one week will out if scope | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | 3. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dataflow-collections It's mostly done except it's not gonna be usable with that race condition | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | good concern | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | 4. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-workflow-resume - Likely we could knock this down as well | 16:36 |
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| nikolaym | I thought that n.2 connected with n.4 | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | so we definitely won't be able to tackle HA (testing etc.), I guess HTTP listeners and I have doubts about workflow resume too | 16:37 |
| nikolaym | Resume and pause-before | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | well, logically yes. But strictly speaking they're separate things both needed for "manual checkpoints" | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | they could be done separately | 16:38 |
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| tsufiev | hi there! seems I missed the beginning of meeting. Do you have open discussion section :)? | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | hi Timur | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | not yet ) | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | but soon | 16:40 |
| akuznetsova_ | Hi Timur | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | so what do you guys thing about release date ? | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | let me put it this way... | 16:40 |
| dzimine | IMO move out. | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | do you think it makes a lot of sense to push it before the summit whatever it takes? | 16:40 |
| dzimine | but still do few things by Paris. | 16:41 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, okay. I have a little update about Merlin Workbook Builder for Mistral | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | without any official announcements? | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | tsufiev, sure, a couple of mins pls | 16:41 |
| dzimine | "without any official announcements?" how do u mean/ | 16:41 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, np | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | my opinion: nobody will really get familiar with the release if we push it two days before the summit | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, I mean "We're pleased to announce Mistral 0.2, here's the link to the new capabilities etc. etc." | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | so my suggestion is move it out but yes, implement most important things | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | for example, join | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | and try to fix that race condition | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | thoughts? | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | let's vote :) | 16:44 |
| dzimine | the three big areas to me are 1) resuming workflow 2) work under load (including this transaction problem we dicsussed) and 3) refine REST API | 16:44 |
| bhavenst | sounds reasonable | 16:44 |
| dzimine | and fixing race condintion, etc, need to take as needed. | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, I agree but don't see chances to fully address all this before Nov | 16:45 |
| dzimine | there's no point of "pause before" till we learn to resume :) | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | race condition for me is actually the #1 problem | 16:45 |
| dzimine | that's why I am for moving the date out. | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I see | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok, any objections? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | Nikolay? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | Nastya? | 16:45 |
| dzimine | and I agree race condition is #1 prio. | 16:46 |
| akuznetsova_ | I guess that we need to move release | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | nikolaym? | 16:46 |
| nikolaym | Yes, move out the release | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | basically we already have all estimates for the BPs so I could take some time and suggest a new date | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | like I said I guess it should be at least 2 weeks later | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | we just need to look at everyone's schedule and make a conscious decision | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | ok, decided | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | tsufiev, please speak :) | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | #action Race condition in engine is the #1 problem to fix | 16:48 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, so, good news: there is chance that we'll get UI for Workbook Builder in Merlin done by designer, not me :) | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | #action Suggest a new date for 0.2 release | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ooh | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | cool | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | who is it going to be? Already known to us? | 16:49 |
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| tsufiev | so if you have more feedback to share about the current state of Workbook Builder, you are strongly encouraged to share it - so it will be taken into account | 16:49 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, I've spoken with Bogdan Dudko | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:50 |
| tsufiev | he is from Mirantis Fuel team, and may have some free cycles to help Merlin | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | tsufiev, ooh, that is awesome | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | so, remember I sent you a list of sugestions.. | 16:51 |
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| tsufiev | rakhmerov, yep, it will be the primary input for Bogdan | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | do you think they all could be done using this JS framework? | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | or how is it going to be done? | 16:51 |
| tsufiev | I'd like to keep as much as possible interactions on client-side to make Merlin more responsive (less calls to server) | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | I mean I am not really sure what depends on barricade JS and the designer skills :) | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | let's see | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | and btw, we need to sync up on DSL changes again | 16:53 |
| tsufiev | well, the project definitely needs at least 2 people generating some ideas ) | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | I looked at Merlin about 3 days ago and there're some disrupancies | 16:53 |
| tsufiev | because I have some problems with simultaneous creating new design and implementing it | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | yup, totally understandable | 16:53 |
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| tsufiev | rakhmerov, could you write about them to ML? | 16:54 |
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| tsufiev | there is a thread already known to you... | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | I think some of us will be able to contribute after the summit when the dust settles | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I'll do that | 16:55 |
| tsufiev | rakhmerov, thanks! | 16:55 |
| akuznetsova_ | Only after our release ) | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | #action Write about DSL discrepancies in Merlin to ML | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | :)) | 16:56 |
| tsufiev | I hope to find some contributors at summit or at least make some advertising from Merlin :) | 16:56 |
| tsufiev | s/from/for/ | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | will you be there too? | 16:56 |
| tsufiev | yes | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | cool | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | guys, anything else? | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | I discussed the most important things that I wanted (race condition and 0.2 release date) | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | so let's then close the meeting | 16:57 |
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| tsufiev | bye! | 16:58 |
| akuznetsova_ | Bye | 16:58 |
| nikolaym | bye! | 16:58 |
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| rakhmerov | bhavenst, I would suggest you try 'pause-before' BP and we're waiting for the news about Ceilometer integration | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | I'll assign it to you | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | :) | 16:59 |
| bhavenst | OK, will give it a shot | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | ok, cool | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | thanks guys | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | bye-by | 16:59 |
| bhavenst | bye | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 16:59:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-10-20-16.02.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-10-20-16.02.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-10-20-16.02.log.html | 16:59 |
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| sarob | #start training-guides | 17:00 |
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| sayali | Hello | 17:00 |
| rluethi | hi | 17:00 |
| dbite | hello | 17:00 |
| timfreund | hello | 17:00 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 17:00:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
| sarob | Hi all | 17:00 |
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| rluethi | a special welcome to timfreund, who fixed the landslide css. | 17:01 |
| timfreund | thanks rluethi, happy to help. | 17:01 |
| sarob | :) | 17:01 |
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| sarob | #topic outstanding actions from last week | 17:02 |
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| rluethi | ahem. doodle. | 17:03 |
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| sarob | Start there sure | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | it's kind of difficult to fill out, because many session topics are still tbd. | 17:04 |
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| sarob | True | 17:04 |
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| rluethi | annegent_: when are the openstack-docs sessions at the summit? | 17:04 |
| annegent_ | rluethi: they are during the cross project times | 17:04 |
| rluethi | we would like to attend whenever possible. | 17:04 |
| dbite | we need to know when can we schedule our training guides sessions | 17:04 |
| annegent_ | rluethi: which will decided at this afternoon | 17:04 |
| annegent_ | s tc meeting | 17:04 |
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| sarob | Cool | 17:04 |
| annegent_ | rluethi: dbite: I don't think you'll get a sesssion I think you need to plan for a meetup at the pod | 17:04 |
| annegent_ | cross project is already packed and it's possible I'll fight for 2 docs ones | 17:05 |
| sarob | Pod runs open all week? | 17:05 |
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| dbite | annegent_: that would be really good | 17:05 |
| rluethi | annegent_: we don't need our own meetings, but we would like to listen in on the docs ones. | 17:06 |
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| sarob | So team. It sounds like we use the pod | 17:06 |
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| rluethi | sarob: sounds good. | 17:06 |
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| sarob | I'll put the doodle poll back out on the ml after the TC meet | 17:07 |
| sarob | #action sarob repost doodle poll after latest TC meet | 17:07 |
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| sarob | Dbite how's the bug posting going? | 17:08 |
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| annegent_ | sarob: Four days for the pods | 17:08 |
| annegent_ | rluethi: yeah I'll be posting to the mailing list as soon as I know | 17:09 |
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| dbite | sarob: I already have a few bugs up there | 17:09 |
| rluethi | annegent_: thanks! | 17:09 |
| dbite | annegent_: we do not need a cross project talk for training guides but may be one session where we sit with the docs team and discuss a few things out | 17:09 |
| sarob | Dbite true | 17:10 |
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| dbite | sarob: I need to do a better job posting bugs but I am getting a bit overburdened with Germany bureaucracy and other personal things eating up my time | 17:10 |
| sarob | Dbite understood | 17:10 |
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| sarob | Dbite delegate? | 17:11 |
| sarob | Dbite work on it for the summit design meet is the focus | 17:12 |
| dbite | hmm, I need a volunteer | 17:12 |
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| sayali | I don't mind helping out | 17:12 |
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| dbite | sarob: yes, I am trying my best ... I should get a lot of time this week | 17:12 |
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| dbite | sayali: thanks a lot | 17:13 |
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| matjazp | hi all | 17:13 |
| sarob | Dbite understood. I do you are working at it | 17:13 |
| sarob | Matjazp hey | 17:13 |
| dbite | matjazp: hello | 17:13 |
| dbite | sarob: roger that | 17:13 |
| sayali | dbite: no issues, let me know what needs to be done | 17:13 |
| rluethi | matjazp: hey | 17:13 |
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| sayali | hello matjazp | 17:14 |
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| sarob | #action sayali will help dbite on docs bug logging in prep for the summit design session | 17:14 |
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| sarob | Review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127472/ | 17:15 |
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| dbite | reed: hello, you around? | 17:15 |
| reed | yes | 17:15 |
| sarob | This is pending reed reviewing dhellman option looks like | 17:15 |
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| reed | I haven't had time to test hyerogliph, sorry | 17:16 |
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| timfreund | I can volunteer to do that testing. | 17:16 |
| sarob | -1000 demerits for reed | 17:16 |
| dbite | reed: ok, try it out asap please | 17:16 |
| reed | timfreund, fantastic | 17:16 |
| dhellmann | I don't want to block your work on this stuff, but we're trying really hard to get a handle on our huge list of dependencies :-/ | 17:16 |
| sarob | Thx timfreund | 17:17 |
| dbite | timfreund: sure, I actually tried it out but my views will be partial since I am working on the patch | 17:17 |
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| sarob | Dhellman understood | 17:17 |
| dbite | dhellmann: I understand your request | 17:17 |
| reed | the reason I picked landslide is because it felt like it was a more modern version of hierogliph but I'm not married to it | 17:17 |
| rluethi | dbite and I tried hieroglyph, it's quite a pain. but if reed is happy with it, we can run with it, too. | 17:17 |
| dbite | rluethi: true | 17:17 |
| reed | ah! that's good feedback :) | 17:18 |
| dbite | dhellmann: reed: another issue with using hieroglyph is not only really poor developer docs | 17:18 |
| dhellmann | reed: it's entirely possible it's a better tool | 17:18 |
| dbite | but also we loose the PDF file using weasyprint | 17:18 |
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| dhellmann | reed: at least we're having the conversation :-) | 17:18 |
| dbite | the other way to generate PDF files is converting them to LaTeX first which would not be preferred | 17:18 |
| sarob | #action timfreund reed will test out hieroglyph as alt to weasyprint as per #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127472/ | 17:18 |
| reed | PDF is such a low priority... I'd call it a negative priority | 17:18 |
| dbite | reed: you may be wrong there | 17:19 |
| dbite | we need PDF support for the machines which do not support HTML5 | 17:19 |
| reed | sarob, wait, if dbite and rluethi have tried it already, why do we still need to? | 17:19 |
| rluethi | pdf is quite important if you do presentations in a unpredictable environment. | 17:19 |
| dbite | which I can see happening in many Unis! | 17:19 |
| matjazp | PDFs- I know you guys don't like PDFs, but I can speak from my experience that one of the first things I get asked is where are PDS :) | 17:19 |
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| matjazp | PDFs | 17:19 |
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| sarob | #undo | 17:19 |
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| dhellmann | PDFs do tend to work better when uploading to some of the slide-sharing sites, too | 17:19 |
| matjazp | rluethi: dbite: exactly | 17:19 |
| reed | matjazp, teaching means educating people that PDF is dead :) | 17:20 |
| matjazp | reed: I like to choose my battles wisely ;) | 17:20 |
| timfreund | So one experiment might be to get sphinx/hieroglyph slides to print via weasyprint? That sounded like a blocking item from the review. | 17:20 |
| reed | dhellmann, you don't need those if you can host the html files yourself | 17:20 |
| rluethi | reed: I love HTML presentations, but PDF is very much alive, and will be for quite some time. | 17:20 |
| dbite | timfreund: I tried that | 17:20 |
| dbite | it does not work! | 17:20 |
| reed | rluethi, not if you help kill it :) | 17:21 |
| dbite | hieroglyph also proposes massive changes to the RST and CSS since the indentation. alighment etc. is lost | 17:21 |
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| dbite | may be because it is optimized for landslide | 17:21 |
| reed | dbite, what was the issue with hieroglhyp? | 17:21 |
| rluethi | I know people how stopped bringing printed transparent slides only a couple of years ago. always have a fallback position :). | 17:21 |
| * reed has never spelled hierogphlyp the same way | 17:21 | |
| matjazp | reed: I could be worse... few years back they asked for PPTs or word files :) | 17:21 |
| dbite | reed: the text was way out of the position as compared to landslide | 17:21 |
| reed | dbite, do you mean the HTML output? | 17:22 |
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| dbite | reed: I figured it out that there are a lot of changes required for the rst files to make it compliant to Hieroglyph and also change the CSS files a bit | 17:22 |
| dbite | reed: yes | 17:22 |
| dhellmann | reed: true, though they do help with discoverability | 17:22 |
| reed | dbite, yes, I noticed that the syntax is different | 17:22 |
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| dbite | reed: it may be a lot of work, we have the slides ready for landslide and weasyprint | 17:23 |
| reed | dhellmann, we're talking about slides that are not meant to be discovered. These are training material for *in class* teaching, not DIY | 17:23 |
| dbite | also lesser dependencies than Hierogylph | 17:23 |
| dhellmann | reed: ah, ok then :-) | 17:23 |
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| reed | that's why I want to keep this conversation in scope: Upstream Training has nothing new in it, it's all content that is on the wiki but the crucial bit is the in-class experience | 17:24 |
| dbite | dhellmann: we already have DFS algo implemented to scan and search for RST files :) | 17:24 |
| reed | the slides are just to keep the tempo in the classroom, nothing else. That's why I don't care about the pdf | 17:24 |
| reed | there is really no need to print anything and where someone has no HTML5 browser we can't expect them to be successful openstack contributors | 17:25 |
| sarob | Reed students will be using source from where? | 17:25 |
| dbite | reed: I understand but we do need to consider other uses demands too. And I want to think that Universities will not have updated machines which are capable of running HTML5 | 17:25 |
| rluethi | reed: if you name the toolchain and give us the input files that work with it, we're all happy. | 17:25 |
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| reed | sarob, can you rephrase? | 17:26 |
| rluethi | reed: we just don't to have to port landslide to hieroglyphs, or figure out if and how it is possible :). | 17:26 |
| reed | dbite, other uses for what? Are we talking about Upstream Training or a wider topic? | 17:26 |
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| sarob | Reed For 1-2 nov training, source material for students from where? | 17:26 |
| reed | sarob, from the repository | 17:26 |
| sarob | Training-guides? | 17:27 |
| reed | sarob, Tim Freund and Sylvain and me and Loic are fixing those docs, in training-guides | 17:27 |
| sarob | Reed just double chk | 17:27 |
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| sarob | Reed so can we proceed with landslide weasyprint for the summit | 17:28 |
| reed | so, I'm happy to use landslide for Paris and switch after the summit | 17:28 |
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| sarob | Reed and then figure out if it is a long term solution? | 17:28 |
| reed | the automatic build can be postponed until we have time to properly check hieryglypf | 17:28 |
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| reed | sarob, agreed | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | sarob: in the mean time, we could at least merge Tim's patch for presentation building from rst? | 17:29 |
| dbite | matjazp: we will merge my patch | 17:29 |
| dbite | but not make it trigger with jenkins | 17:29 |
| reed | matjazp, I was thinking of adding it to my repo and .gitignore it anyway :) | 17:30 |
| matjazp | dbite: ok than... I thought that it was blocked because of dependencies | 17:30 |
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| dbite | matjazp: the dependencies are there even for the bash script | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | dbite: yes but not for weasyprint, right? | 17:31 |
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| matjazp | reed: :))) you can .gitingore PDFs too, right ;) | 17:31 |
| dbite | matjazp: for now weasyprint too | 17:31 |
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| dbite | we will provide the option for building html or pdf | 17:31 |
| dbite | and also gitignore the entire directory which contains HTML and PDF | 17:32 |
| rluethi | matjazp: the requirements are only needed for automatic building. | 17:32 |
| sarob | #action Let's get everything cleaned up for the training minus Jenkins building the slideware, using hieroglyph is pushed til after the summit | 17:32 |
| reed | I'm strongly opposed to generate PDFs for Upstream training | 17:32 |
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| sarob | #undo | 17:32 |
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| sarob | #action Let's get everything cleaned up for the kilo summit upstream training minus Jenkins building the slideware, using hieroglyph is pushed til after the summit | 17:33 |
| dbite | reed: please tell me if you want me to provide you with PDF support? | 17:33 |
| reed | if someone really wants to get PDFs, they can do it autonomously from the source | 17:33 |
| dbite | even with landslide | 17:33 |
| reed | I don't care about PDF as an option, really | 17:33 |
| rluethi | reed: there's quite a difference between "I don't care about" and "I'm strongly opposed to". | 17:34 |
| reed | meaning that if you want to spend time documenting it, fine, do it, I am not going to use it and I would oppose to generating the PDF automatically at build time | 17:34 |
| dbite | if you are strongly opposed '<reed> I'm strongly opposed to generate PDFs for Upstream training' I would suggest that you discuss it out with matjazp properly | 17:34 |
| dbite | reed: all the other docs do that | 17:34 |
| reed | dbite, if others do it it's their choice... I"m talking about Upstream Training material | 17:35 |
| reed | for Upstream Training, PDF is not needed and I don't think we should spend more time discussing it | 17:35 |
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| dbite | ok | 17:36 |
| sarob | Dbite lets table this for summit discussion | 17:36 |
| sarob | Segway to #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docstopicsparissummit | 17:37 |
| matjazp | damn... summit discussion.. I still have to fill out our Doodle timetable | 17:38 |
| sarob | Let's get our stuff jammed in here so we can prioritize the agenda | 17:38 |
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| sarob | Matjazp I like doing it backwards :) | 17:39 |
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| matjazp | sarob: backwards? How can you see on your laptop if it's not facing you? ;)) | 17:39 |
| sarob | I hope I am not the only one that has something to say on the agenda | 17:40 |
| sarob | Matjazp X-ray vision yo | 17:40 |
| rluethi | sarob: I already added several items. | 17:41 |
| sarob | Matjazp that at least what the kids think | 17:41 |
| sarob | Rluethi thx | 17:41 |
| sarob | Rest of y'all get in there | 17:41 |
| sarob | Sayali you have an av update for the team? | 17:42 |
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| sayali | yep | 17:42 |
| sayali | the first video is up here http://youtu.be/8KYi1fPd6Tw. | 17:42 |
| sarob | Sayali hit | 17:42 |
| sarob | Me | 17:42 |
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| sayali | I have made it unlisted so everyone can see it | 17:43 |
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| sayali | so please check and an write back the feedback on etherpad or by mail | 17:43 |
| matjazp | sayali: the video is for noobs, right? | 17:43 |
| sarob | Sayali it's listed as private | 17:43 |
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| sayali | matjazp: yes this one is on installing devstack on virtualbox | 17:44 |
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| sarob | Sayali nice. Sounds good. | 17:44 |
| dbite | sarob: it is unlisted not private, it should work | 17:44 |
| sarob | Sayali maybe it's an iOS thing | 17:45 |
| sayali | ya i had changed it | 17:45 |
| timfreund | sayali: you said that everyone should be able to see it? I get a "This video is private" when I click the link. | 17:45 |
| sarob | Timfreund me too | 17:45 |
| rluethi | it worked for me, without a google account. | 17:45 |
| sayali | dbite: unlisted works for everyone right? | 17:45 |
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| timfreund | I tried while logged in and in a private browser window, both showed private. | 17:45 |
| dbite | sayali: you are giving the wrong link! | 17:46 |
| dbite | I will publish the correct one | 17:46 |
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| sarob | Dbite oh | 17:46 |
| sarob | Dbite that may help ;) | 17:46 |
| dbite | http://youtu.be/7rdju1VrFWk | 17:46 |
| sayali | ah my bad! | 17:46 |
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| timfreund | there we go! | 17:46 |
| sayali | thanks dbite | 17:47 |
| dbite | #link First AV Link http://youtu.be/7rdju1VrFWk | 17:47 |
| dbite | sayali: nps :) | 17:47 |
| sarob | Sayali looks excellent | 17:47 |
| dbite | sarob: unlisted is public video which can only be accessed by those who have the URL! | 17:47 |
| sayali | I have mentioned on etherpad the tools used | 17:47 |
| sayali | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstck-training-guides%28Audio_Visual_Content%29 | 17:47 |
| sayali | thanks sarob! | 17:48 |
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| sarob | So the last update is on the trainer group | 17:48 |
| sarob | I got slammed last week so I'm working on it today | 17:49 |
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| sarob | I have some of the prep work done | 17:49 |
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| sarob | And another trainer lined up | 17:49 |
| sarob | I'm going to publish another irc meeting for community-trainers | 17:50 |
| dbite | awesome, need a lot of feedback for our content | 17:50 |
| sarob | This will be the team that consumes what this team creates | 17:50 |
| sarob | Should help with the bleed over so we can focus more on content less on execution | 17:51 |
| sayali | sounds great | 17:51 |
| sarob | #action sarob publish community-trainers irc meeting | 17:52 |
| sarob | I think we are all caught up from last week | 17:52 |
| sarob | #topic any other business | 17:52 |
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| matjazp | Openstack proposal bot | 17:52 |
| matjazp | do we merge or not? | 17:52 |
| dbite | matjazp: link | 17:53 |
| matjazp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129228/ | 17:53 |
| dbite | matjazp: ohh yes | 17:53 |
| rluethi | the proposal bot may be pushing things that are juno or kilo. | 17:53 |
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| dbite | Ill give it a +1 workflow | 17:53 |
| matjazp | look at discussion with roger | 17:53 |
| rluethi | we haven't branched off from icehouse yet. | 17:53 |
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| rluethi | we haven't yet agreed on how to deal with OpenStack releases. | 17:54 |
| matjazp | rluethi: yes, but we don't use this directly, do we? | 17:54 |
| clarkb | if there is a reason to not merge openstack proposal bot changes please update the bot/jobs so that we stop proposing code that will not merge | 17:54 |
| rluethi | matjazp: but does it get pulled into all guides we produce? | 17:54 |
| dbite | rluethi: the proposal bot is pulling glossary from Juno | 17:54 |
| matjazp | japanese translation not | 17:54 |
| dbite | I configured this one ! | 17:54 |
| rluethi | it's no big deal, but we need to define how to deal with releases soon. | 17:55 |
| matjazp | glossary is more or less not tied to a specific release | 17:55 |
| dbite | matjazp: unless you find something very conflicting I do not think that we should worry about it | 17:55 |
| rluethi | in Paris, if we can't get it done earlier. | 17:55 |
| dbite | matjazp: true, I agree | 17:56 |
| dbite | one of our main agendas is to figure out when to release and how to release | 17:56 |
| matjazp | so whats get merged now, is ok | 17:56 |
| matjazp | do we need to discuss this at he meeting in paris? | 17:56 |
| sarob | when to tag for release | 17:56 |
| sarob | Matjazp yes | 17:56 |
| sarob | And once tagged, backport policy | 17:57 |
| dbite | sarob: we need to manage the releases from the Launchpad Release Management feature too! | 17:57 |
| matjazp | in the mean time, we merge as we did untill now | 17:57 |
| sarob | True dbite | 17:57 |
| dbite | lets push these points in the etherpad | 17:57 |
| sarob | Dbite agreed we need to start acting all grown up | 17:57 |
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| sarob | Anything else folks? | 17:58 |
| dbite | sarob: yes, true | 17:58 |
| dbite | im good :) | 17:58 |
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| * dbite dbite is dancing like a kid :D | 17:59 | |
| rluethi | I'm good. time's up. | 17:59 |
| matjazp | bye all | 17:59 |
| * sarob has trouble acting grown up | 17:59 | |
| sayali | bye | 17:59 |
| * dbite join me | 17:59 | |
| sarob | Okey dokey | 17:59 |
| dbite | bye :) | 17:59 |
| sarob | Until | 17:59 |
| sarob | Next | 17:59 |
| sarob | Time | 17:59 |
| rluethi | cheers. | 17:59 |
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| * dbite yay! :D | 18:00 | |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 18:00:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-10-20-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-10-20-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-10-20-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| krtaylor | #startmeeting third-party | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 18:00:57 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 18:01 |
| krtaylor | anyone here for third-party? | 18:01 |
| asselin | hi | 18:01 |
| * ctlaugh_ is here | 18:01 | |
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| patrickeast | hey | 18:01 |
| luqas | hi | 18:01 |
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| krtaylor | hey everyone | 18:02 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 18:02 |
| krtaylor | we have another light agenda today | 18:02 |
| krtaylor | thanks goodness for down time between releases | 18:02 |
| krtaylor | but it will leave us with plenty of open discussion time | 18:03 |
| krtaylor | topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission | 18:03 |
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| krtaylor | hm | 18:03 |
| krtaylor | #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission | 18:03 |
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| krtaylor | that's better | 18:03 |
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| krtaylor | #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. | 18:04 |
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| krtaylor | and here's a link to the agenda, pretty light as I said before: | 18:04 |
| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#10.2F20.2F14 | 18:04 |
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| krtaylor | #topic Review of previous week's open action items | 18:05 |
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| krtaylor | so, I show no action items | 18:05 |
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| krtaylor | #topic Announcements | 18:05 |
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| krtaylor | any announcements? | 18:05 |
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| krtaylor | ok, next then | 18:06 |
| krtaylor | #topic OpenStack Program items | 18:06 |
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| krtaylor | only thing here is I left the session link in case someone missed it last week | 18:07 |
| krtaylor | #link http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/9902dac01525691e60ac94bf236569c6# | 18:07 |
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| krtaylor | I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone | 18:07 |
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| krtaylor | #topic Deadlines & Deprecations | 18:08 |
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| krtaylor | I doubt we have any deadlines to communicate this week :) | 18:08 |
| krtaylor | #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account | 18:08 |
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| krtaylor | nothing here, I need to get volunteers to talk about their CI environment, how it is working for them, etc | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | pick a week and we'll get you on the agenda | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | I suspect that we'll see this pick up again after summit | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | well, the time everyone has been waiting for... | 18:10 |
| krtaylor | #topic Open Discussion | 18:10 |
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| jesusaurus | krtaylor: what do you want out of a talk about a ci environment? | 18:10 |
| krtaylor | open floor, what's on everyone's mind | 18:10 |
| cpowell | krtaylor: I requested a CI account several weeks ago and was wondering if it was possible to get a status | 18:11 |
| asselin | I'd like to converge on a common ci environment setup located in -infra repo. We discussed this a while back. Interested to know who else would like to work on this.. | 18:11 |
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| krtaylor | jesusaurus, I am looking for shared experience, others can look back on and see how others have solved problems | 18:11 |
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| krtaylor | cpowell, I would expect some to be here, it may have just slipped | 18:13 |
| krtaylor | cpowell, if no one pops up here, ask in -infra | 18:13 |
| patrickeast | asselin: I would be interested in that, not sure how much time I will have to contribute to it, but I’d definitely like to help out if I can | 18:13 |
| cpowell | krtaylor: I understand. I want to make sure that nothing is blocking. I have seen other accoutns requested after mine which have been filled. | 18:13 |
| krtaylor | asselin, yes | 18:13 |
| asselin | patrickeast, great thanks | 18:13 |
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| cpowell | and I have asked in the -infra channel | 18:14 |
| ctlaugh_ | asselin: can you provide more details on what you are interested in? | 18:14 |
| krtaylor | cpowell, was that sent to the -requests maillist? | 18:14 |
| cpowell | yes | 18:14 |
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| anteaya | cpowell: what account? are you poppy? | 18:15 |
| asselin | ctlaugh_, I have my 3rd party ci setup in github. I'd like to migrate/refactor it so it can be located in -infra project. (or use a different starting point) | 18:15 |
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| cpowell | anteaya: Yes, I am poppy | 18:15 |
| krtaylor | asselin, I would like to see that proposed again, we have tried to discuss it at -infra meetings, but it got scattered | 18:15 |
| anteaya | asselin: we discussed this, the way forward is with the puppet module split spec and the public heira spec | 18:15 |
| anteaya | cpowell: yes, well there seems to be a problem | 18:15 |
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| anteaya | since we are getting folks from stackforge projects | 18:16 |
| anteaya | wanting to set up ci | 18:16 |
| anteaya | and the point of stackforge is to use our ci | 18:16 |
| anteaya | so why as a stackforge project, do you need your own ci? | 18:16 |
| krtaylor | asselin, my team just went through an exercise where we generalized everything we could, I think we could help | 18:16 |
| krtaylor | rfolco, mmedvede ^^ | 18:17 |
| anteaya | asselin krtaylor you are welcome to have another agenda item on the infra meeting, but don't be surprised if the response is the same | 18:17 |
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| anteaya | cpowell: why do you need your own ci for a stackforge project? | 18:17 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I think the problem was that we got too specific in our request | 18:18 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: how's that? | 18:18 |
| asselin | anteaya, no need to add another item in -infra. We as 3rd party need to come together and commit to work on this. | 18:18 |
| cpowell | anteaya: we want to ensure that changes work within our production env, as we will be consuming the product ourselves | 18:18 |
| krtaylor | asselin ++ | 18:18 |
| cpowell | external contributions | 18:18 |
| anteaya | asselin: yes, working on spliting out the puppet modules would help infra greatly | 18:18 |
| anteaya | cpowell: so why is it necessary to have your own ci? | 18:19 |
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| anteaya | cpowell: why not write tests and jobs that run in ours | 18:19 |
| anteaya | that is the point of our infra | 18:19 |
| asselin | so we have asselin patrickeast krtaylor rfolco mmedvede. anyone else? | 18:19 |
| jesusaurus | asselin: splitting out the modules also helps me a ton as I'm a downstream consumer of infra. its something ive been trying to find time to help with | 18:19 |
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| asselin | asselin patrickeast krtaylor rfolco mmedvede jesusaurus | 18:20 |
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| krtaylor | I think it is a good step | 18:20 |
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| krtaylor | infra proposed a session in Atlanta on How to improve CI, maybe we'll see part II? | 18:21 |
| cpowell | anteaya: we have a number of checks that utilize specific db's and frameworks which are not available within stackforge | 18:21 |
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| anteaya | cpowell: well you are going to have to convince mordred then | 18:22 |
| anteaya | since the trend of having a stackforge having its own ci is disturbing for us | 18:22 |
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| asselin | that's a good small team. Perhaps we can setup a separate working meeting, or use this one? | 18:22 |
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| anteaya | asselin: don't split | 18:22 |
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| krtaylor | cpowell, what would you report back against? | 18:23 |
| anteaya | have the minimum amount of structure to get work done | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | asselin: and honestly any of you are welcome to ask questions in infra to learn how to do the work | 18:23 |
| asselin | ok then we'll use this meeting & -infra for online discussions | 18:23 |
| anteaya | don't create overheaad for yourself, create patches | 18:23 |
| cpowell | anteaya: I understand. What would be the preferred method of speaking with mordred | 18:23 |
| anteaya | asselin: thank you | 18:23 |
| anteaya | cpowell: in the -infra channel use his name and ask your question | 18:24 |
| cpowell | anteaya: ok, thank yoi | 18:24 |
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| krtaylor | asselin, I can help in an etherpad, put together some ideas to bring here maybe? | 18:24 |
| anteaya | cpowell: welcome, just so you know I am against creating a whole bunch of ci accounts for stackforge | 18:24 |
| anteaya | this was never the intention | 18:25 |
| asselin | krtaylor, thanks | 18:25 |
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| krtaylor | ok, we are winding down maybe? | 18:26 |
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| anteaya | one of the things you can always do if you have a light meeting | 18:27 |
| anteaya | is spot check accounts | 18:27 |
| anteaya | and review them against the requirements | 18:27 |
| krtaylor | +1 | 18:27 |
| asselin | and we'll add nibalizer who'll help us get started with puppet module split | 18:27 |
| anteaya | and if any account is not meeting requirements you tell them | 18:27 |
| anteaya | since you telling them will not cause their account to be disabled | 18:28 |
| anteaya | so consider it a public service | 18:28 |
| krtaylor | anyone here from hyper-v? | 18:28 |
| krtaylor | see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119013/ | 18:28 |
| krtaylor | its not a good idea to use an IP addr, if it changes it breaks the link | 18:29 |
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| krtaylor | see the last comment | 18:29 |
| anteaya | you can find their email on their wikipage and email them | 18:30 |
| anteaya | or you can post to the -announce mailing list | 18:30 |
| krtaylor | not sure if that is a hard requirement, but a bad idea none the less | 18:30 |
| anteaya | worth telling them | 18:30 |
| anteaya | and their wikipage should have the irc nicks of their ops | 18:30 |
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| krtaylor | hyper-v_ci@microsoft.com | 18:30 |
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| anteaya | so email and cc announce | 18:31 |
| krtaylor | anyone else caught anything - this would be a soft notice :) | 18:31 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, will do | 18:31 |
| anteaya | it would be a big step towards self-regulation | 18:32 |
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| krtaylor | oh, ociuhandu | 18:32 |
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| krtaylor | usually around | 18:32 |
| nibalizer | ohai | 18:32 |
| krtaylor | or primeministerp | 18:33 |
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| asselin | I see ociuhandu is also interested in common 3rd party ci (last entry of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-third-party-items) | 18:33 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, I like that so much, I am going to add it as a meeting agenda heading | 18:33 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: good idea | 18:34 |
| ctlaugh_ | krtaylor: Are there any prerequisites to requesting a service account? | 18:35 |
| krtaylor | asselin, I believe ociuhandu is going to summit also | 18:35 |
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| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, not many...currently | 18:35 |
| asselin | krtaylor, unfortunately I won't be present. | 18:35 |
| krtaylor | asselin, darn | 18:35 |
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| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, I believe the only one currently is to have a wiki page entry in third-party systems, although, anyone that asks me | 18:36 |
| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, I tell them to do that the very last step | 18:36 |
| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, we got everything running first, then asked for an account and turned on reporting | 18:37 |
| ctlaugh_ | krtaylor: ok, thank you. I'll try to request the account first without the wiki page. I don't have all the details on what to fill in there yet. | 18:37 |
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| ctlaugh_ | Did you get everything running using an individual account/ssh key? | 18:38 |
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| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, I can help you through that | 18:38 |
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| ctlaugh_ | We are nowhere near ready to report results yet -- just wanting to get things setup | 18:38 |
| krtaylor | ctlaugh_, yes, except reporting, then got "official" | 18:39 |
| virmitio | krtaylor: I'm from hyper-v. my understanding is that our IP is static and not subject to change, but I'll start asking about shifting to a name. | 18:40 |
| krtaylor | virmitio, great, thanks, its just a good idea | 18:40 |
| krtaylor | virmitio, would you like me to send email after this meeting as a reminder? | 18:41 |
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| virmitio | krtaylor: probably a good idea | 18:41 |
| krtaylor | virmitio, will do | 18:41 |
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| krtaylor | anyone notice any other systems that need anything, you know, when you were doing your daily reviews? :) | 18:42 |
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| anteaya | krtaylor asselin you did notice that nibalizer is here | 18:43 |
| anteaya | in channel | 18:43 |
| anteaya | and probably would welcome any questions pertaining to spliting up puppet modules | 18:43 |
| krtaylor | nibalizer, that would be welcome, maybe a general overview of what needs to be done for everyone? | 18:44 |
| asselin | as krtaylor said the other day in -infra. It would be good if we (asselin patrickeast krtaylor rfolco mmedvede jesusaurus ociuhandu) and anyone else interested meet with nibalizer. | 18:45 |
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| anteaya | what is wrong with now? | 18:45 |
| anteaya | right now? | 18:45 |
| nibalizer | heh | 18:45 |
| asselin | now is fine... | 18:45 |
| nibalizer | i actually am about to go on a burrito raid | 18:45 |
| anteaya | why do we have to set up anothe rmeeting? | 18:45 |
| nibalizer | but i can briefly get into it | 18:45 |
| asselin | (b/c nibalizer wasn't chiming in....) | 18:46 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: 15 minutes left in the meeting | 18:46 |
| nibalizer | anteaya: help me out here for a sec, where is the specs? | 18:46 |
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| asselin | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/infra-specs/tree/specs/puppet-modules.rst | 18:46 |
| nibalizer | https://github.com/openstack-infra/infra-specs/blob/master/specs/puppet-modules.rst | 18:47 |
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| nibalizer | ya that^ | 18:47 |
| nibalizer | there is a nice rendered one somewhere | 18:47 |
| nibalizer | but we dont need that | 18:47 |
| nibalizer | basically everything in openstack-infra/modules/* should become its own module | 18:47 |
| jesusaurus | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html | 18:47 |
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| nibalizer | those modules should live under openstack as openstack-infra/puppet-THING | 18:47 |
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| nibalizer | now there are a couple cases where we don't want to do that | 18:47 |
| nibalizer | openstack_project should stay where it is | 18:48 |
| asselin | hi nibalizer I read the spec, the the biggest unknown for me is how to test: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/infra-specs/tree/specs/puppet-modules.rst#n239 | 18:48 |
| asselin | here's the nicely formatted one: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet-modules.html | 18:48 |
| nibalizer | so thats actually not really the job of the splitter? | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | so the person doing the splitting should NOT be writing those tests | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | at least durring the split | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | the split action comes down to these bullet points | 18:49 |
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| nibalizer | git clone system-config | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | cd system-config | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | git subtree split --prefix=modules/derp --branch derp | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | git remote add <you> <yourgithub>/derp | 18:49 |
| nibalizer | then you make a commit to project-config that adds the openstack-infra/puppet-derp project, with yourgithub/derp as the upstream | 18:50 |
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| nibalizer | once that's been pulled in | 18:50 |
| nibalizer | two more things happen | 18:50 |
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| nibalizer | 1) we make a review against system-config to nuke out all of the old module, as well as adding the module to install_modules.sh | 18:50 |
| nibalizer | 2) we start writing unit and acceptance tests for the module | 18:50 |
| anteaya | just focus on getting the patch up to project-config | 18:51 |
| anteaya | once you do that, I can beat anything you offer into shape | 18:51 |
| nibalizer | exactly | 18:51 |
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| anteaya | and we will worry about the system-config and testing steps | 18:51 |
| anteaya | just make a start | 18:51 |
| anteaya | even a bad start is something | 18:51 |
| krtaylor | cool, I'm in, I can do that! | 18:51 |
| anteaya | great thank you | 18:52 |
| krtaylor | hehheh | 18:52 |
| anteaya | assign yourself any module on in the story on storyboard | 18:52 |
| mmedvede | that sounds simple enough, thanks for clearing it up | 18:52 |
| anteaya | nibalizer: have a link to the story? | 18:52 |
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| krtaylor | I do, one sec | 18:52 |
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| nibalizer | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/302 | 18:53 |
| nibalizer | so the thing about that is i tried to add all the modules as sub tasks | 18:53 |
| anteaya | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/302 | 18:53 |
| nibalizer | and now only like 15-20 show up | 18:53 |
| nibalizer | so not sure if thats a storybaord bug, or what | 18:53 |
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| mordred | anteaya, cpowell: I may also be overreacting to the original thing - so let's definitely snc up | 18:54 |
| anteaya | well if we can address the 15 that show up, that is a start | 18:54 |
| anteaya | so for third party, just pick something you can see and assign it to yourself | 18:54 |
| asselin | so the first task "Split out Puppet Modules"....each task is one like that right? | 18:54 |
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| anteaya | once you have a focus we can answer your questions as you go through | 18:54 |
| anteaya | but ask, and then do something | 18:55 |
| anteaya | and then ask again | 18:55 |
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| asselin | ok I got one | 18:55 |
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| nibalizer | okay i g2g thanks everyone! | 18:56 |
| nibalizer | feel free to hilight me and jesusaurus in -infra if you have questions | 18:56 |
| krtaylor | thanks nibalizer | 18:56 |
| asselin | thank you | 18:56 |
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| anteaya | nibalizer: thank you | 18:57 |
| anteaya | asselin: thanks for taking a task | 18:57 |
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| asselin | I was just able to add a test task | 18:57 |
| anteaya | asselin: so ask lots of questions | 18:57 |
| anteaya | fine | 18:58 |
| anteaya | since once everyone sees how to do one | 18:58 |
| anteaya | hopefully everyone will learn | 18:58 |
| asselin | so we should be able to add the other puppet modules as tasks... | 18:58 |
| anteaya | and the steps will be the same | 18:58 |
| anteaya | let's just worry about jenkins | 18:58 |
| anteaya | until after jenkins is done | 18:58 |
| anteaya | stay focused until it is finished | 18:58 |
| krtaylor | go asselin, go asselin :) | 18:59 |
| asselin | lol thanks :) | 18:59 |
| krtaylor | another great meeting out of a light agenda | 18:59 |
| anteaya | asselin: I will make sure you get lots of help | 18:59 |
| krtaylor | thanks everyone | 18:59 |
| asselin | thanks | 18:59 |
| anteaya | good meeting, krtaylor | 18:59 |
| ctlaugh_ | yes, thank you | 19:00 |
| krtaylor | see you all next week! | 19:00 |
| krtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 19:00:15 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-10-20-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-10-20-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-10-20-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | thank you anteaya & krtaylor | 19:00 |
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| devananda | hi all! | 19:00 |
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| jroll | \o | 19:00 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:00 |
| mrda | \o | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 19:00:45 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| JayF | o/ | 19:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | \o/ | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| adam_g | o/ | 19:00 |
| rloo | o/ | 19:00 |
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| linggao | \o | 19:00 |
| mjturek | \o | 19:01 |
| wanyen | hi | 19:01 |
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| devananda | as usual, our agenda can be found on the wiki, but actually, today I'd like to just go over the summit plans for most of the time | 19:01 |
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| devananda | I sent an email to the list this morning about that | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XBKdeDeGfaRYaThjIIoYRwe_zPensECnxsKUuqdoVmQ/edit#gid=101783491 | 19:02 |
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| GheRivero | o/ | 19:02 |
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| NobodyCam | love the pinky and brain link | 19:03 |
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| devananda | #topic summit planning | 19:03 |
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| devananda | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/048777.html -- for those who didn't see the email this morning | 19:04 |
| devananda | short version is, we had 30 proposed topics | 19:04 |
| devananda | a lot of similarities between some of them | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | awesome :) thank you all | 19:04 |
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| devananda | please look at the second tab in the spreadsheet NobodyCam linked and let's discuss | 19:05 |
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| jroll | devananda: the nova section, are those the topics nova picked or that we want to chat with nova about? | 19:05 |
| devananda | jroll: sort of both? | 19:05 |
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| devananda | jroll: nova hasn't set their sechedule yet either, but they are discussing it on an etherpad -- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics | 19:05 |
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| jroll | devananda: ok | 19:06 |
| devananda | jroll: so those things on our spreadsheet are things I think we should talk with them about | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: are the open ended question from us to the Ops or from the Ops to us? | 19:06 |
| jroll | I want to chat about cached images again, but I know it's low priority | 19:06 |
| devananda | jroll: if they have a full session on anything, it would probably be clustered hypervisor and/or driver split | 19:06 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: us to ops. as a way to elicit feedback | 19:06 |
| devananda | jroll: cached in what respect? | 19:06 |
| jroll | devananda: pre-imaging things | 19:07 |
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| jroll | like they discussed in ATL | 19:07 |
| devananda | jroll: oh. pre-deploying common images to nodes | 19:07 |
| devananda | jroll: that goes a step beyond just ready-state | 19:07 |
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| jroll | devananda: right, this is just something on my mind lately, don't mind me :) | 19:08 |
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| devananda | jroll: I think the general case of that is worth discussing -- keeping a pool of nodes in "ready-state" based on some awareness of what users want | 19:08 |
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| jroll | +1 | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | I think by ready-state we mean having all the physical characterists of the node already "discovered" | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | right? | 19:08 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: not just discovered, no, but actually set in the appropriate way | 19:08 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: firmware updated, BIOS settings tuned for a specific worklaod, RAID built, etc | 19:09 |
| devananda | all the things that come before "put an image down and boot it" | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | oh, right interesting | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | gotcha | 19:09 |
| devananda | anyone who hasn't should go read zehicle's blog on ready-state | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | link? | 19:09 |
| devananda | zehicle == rob hirschfeld | 19:09 |
| jroll | link? | 19:10 |
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| lucasagomes | #link http://robhirschfeld.com/2014/04/25/ready-state-infrastructure/ | 19:10 |
| jroll | thanks | 19:10 |
| devananda | yep | 19:10 |
| devananda | was just lookin for it | 19:10 |
| devananda | I may not agree with everything there, but as a basis for discussion and terminology, it's not terrible | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, things like json patch diff for our library, do we need a discussion on that? I think it's a nice feature I would argue that we could just propose a patch for it and discuss in gerrit if needed | 19:12 |
| rloo | devananda: how do we get the initiatives/goals for the 4th session? or is it in that session where the initiatives/goals are decided? | 19:12 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, maybe we should start an etherpad about it | 19:12 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: totally agree. if that's not already proposed by the summit, I think it might be fun to hack on it together | 19:12 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, ++ not the thing to have a holy war on :) | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | so we can put the ideas there | 19:13 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, sounds good | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, ++ | 19:13 |
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| devananda | rloo: we look at open specs, the list of blueprints, and ideally create an etherpad ahead of time :) | 19:13 |
| devananda | dtantsur: let's try not to have holy wars in general :) | 19:13 |
| rloo | devananda: ahh, thx. | 19:13 |
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| devananda | as far as the topics for the 5 sessions I've proposed - does anyone feel that one of those topics doesn't warrant a whole slot? | 19:14 |
| devananda | or a slot would be better served with a different topic? | 19:14 |
| rloo | where did you hide 'discovery'? | 19:14 |
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| devananda | also - in case anyone wonders how I grouped my thoughts on this, I used https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mk2Fhb2sXe as a scratch pad | 19:14 |
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| lucasagomes | rloo, I think it goes on the ready-state, but... hmm differently than discovering a node that is not yet registered in Ironic | 19:15 |
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| * NobodyCam was going ask how testing and stand-alone usage got grouped | 19:15 | |
| devananda | rloo: if by "discovery" you mean "discover unknown nodes" - I think there's been agreement that is out of bounds. | 19:15 |
| devananda | rloo: if you mean "introspection", then that could fall under ready-state or under capabilities | 19:16 |
| devananda | since it has ramifications for both | 19:16 |
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| dtantsur | devananda, I think everyone uses "discovery" as you use "introspection" now | 19:16 |
| devananda | dtantsur: there was at least one proposal in Juno that used it to mean "find unknown nodes", so I've tried to stick with separate words ... | 19:17 |
| dtantsur | devananda, it was mine and I changed my mind :) | 19:17 |
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| lucasagomes | the 3 empty slots on the hacktathon, I would like to add the idea of having a stateless iPXE driver there | 19:17 |
| dtantsur | devananda, so I allow everyone to no longer use discovery in that sense :D | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | can I? | 19:17 |
| rloo | devananda: ok thx. I think I was thinking that the 'decom' part would take the most time, and not much time for 'ready-state', but we'll see. | 19:17 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: ++ | 19:17 |
| devananda | dtantsur: I think there was also one from HP. but anyway, I'll happily start using discover-capabilities | 19:17 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, +many | 19:18 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: oh! the hackathon is unstructured -- you can add as many slots as you want there | 19:18 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: keeping in mind that it'sonly a half day | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | awesome, added! | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | right, I will try to put the ideas in a organized way on an etherpad before | 19:18 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: also, stateless iPXE driver ++ | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | to save some time | 19:18 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: what's there to discuss? or are you going to code it there? :-) | 19:18 |
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| JayF | lucasagomes: stateless ipxe driver is the carrot to get us to use something other than our static configs all the time :P | 19:19 |
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| devananda | in general, if we can simply resolve something with a spec and some code, it probably doesn't need to take up f2f time in a scheduled slot | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, hah both maybe... I was mostly thinking about showing the idea, and starting a discussion from there | 19:20 |
| devananda | the things I've tried to put in the meetup area are either a) things we aren't sure how we want to proceed and probably need to grab someone from another team to sort out (like infra, or nova, or oslo) | 19:20 |
| rloo | devananda: the 2nd part 'stand-alone usage' (5th session), what did you mean by that? Tests for that? | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | JayF, ++ | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I think it's about removing dependencies like we did for neutron | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, or e.g glance, why we cna't just point to a path on the fs with the images | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | instead of having to use glance to provide the image for us | 19:21 |
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| NobodyCam | what deps do we have glance? | 19:21 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: glance across the board. neutron if you have local state. swift for both IPA and iLO drivers. | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, we always fetch the images from glance today | 19:21 |
| jroll | swift for certain drivers | 19:21 |
| rloo | lucasagomes: ah, ok, ironic stand-alone w/o other openstack components. | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | ack | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | yeah and swift | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, that's my understanding | 19:22 |
| devananda | as far as stand-alone, yes, I mean that, but also | 19:22 |
| devananda | our API is not very straight forward to use without Nova, at least with the PXE driver | 19:22 |
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| lucasagomes | ++ | 19:22 |
| JayF | devananda: note: the ready-state and decom phase thing is scheduled for *before* the decom talk me and Josh are giving | 19:22 |
| JayF | devananda: I'd suggest pushing that to the slot first thing Thursday, if possible | 19:23 |
| devananda | JayF: ooh. right, good point | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | we have to do things like setting the instance_uuid to deploy a node, even if we don't use nova | 19:23 |
| wanyen | what the use cses for standalone ironic? I meant why to user ironic stanalone? | 19:23 |
| rloo | shouldn't the progress retro & goal setting be at the end? | 19:23 |
| jroll | I want to use ironic standalone for functional testing, personally | 19:23 |
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| mrda | Should we also reference the Ironic-related summit talks in that etherpad? | 19:24 |
| jroll | mrda: they're in the last tab of the google doc | 19:24 |
| wanyen | jroll: ah. for testing. | 19:24 |
| jroll | wanyen: there are other use cases :) | 19:24 |
| jroll | that's just mine | 19:24 |
| mrda | jroll: thanks (-ESTILLASLEEP) | 19:24 |
| * devananda moves things around | 19:24 | |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, but also I think it's based on some people that has a very small number of machines and they just want to deploy a image to it w/o having to deploy multiple os components | 19:24 |
| jroll | think about tripleo; it would be great if they could use just ironic and not bother with setting up all of openstack | 19:24 |
| devananda | mrda: they are linked on the third tab | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: ++++++++++! | 19:25 |
| mrda | devananda: thanks | 19:25 |
| rloo | jroll: does it become double-o then :-) | 19:25 |
| jroll | rloo: I don't care :) OOI, I guess | 19:25 |
| devananda | jroll: not exactly - tripleo actually relies on other components of openstack for the lower layers too, eg. scheduling, resource placement, and networking | 19:25 |
| wanyen | lucasagomes: tx | 19:26 |
| jroll | devananda: ok, a version of tripleo that doesn't care about that, idk, I'm just making stuff up | 19:26 |
| rloo | devananda: how much or what xproject stuff on tues might/could over functional testing? | 19:26 |
| rloo | s/over/cover | 19:26 |
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| jroll | devananda: I'm thinking "deploy 10k nova-compute hosts to an existing cloud" :) | 19:26 |
| devananda | rloo: i have no idea right now. possibly a lot, since that is the cross-project day | 19:26 |
| devananda | rloo: I think I see why you ask -- it's possible we'll get all we need from those and NOT need our own session on it | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: to an existing cloud(or infrastructure) is questions I have gotten before | 19:27 |
| wanyen | lucasagomomes: sorry I clicked on your name by accident it shows your info. | 19:27 |
| rloo | devananda: yes, that's what i was thinking. OTOH if a lot of it is covered on tues, the session could be a good recap/get into details about the changes for ironic. | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, it's all good :) it only appears on ur client | 19:28 |
| rloo | and then more time for people to ask why a stand-alone ironic ;) | 19:28 |
| devananda | rloo: that's what I'm hoping for - getting into the details of what we want to accomplish in Kilo | 19:28 |
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| devananda | as far as changes to our testing, tempest jobs, etc | 19:28 |
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| * rloo hopes adam_g and Shrews will be there | 19:28 | |
| * Shrews will not be in Paris | 19:29 | |
| adam_g | ill be there | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | :( | 19:29 |
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| * rloo is somewhat happy | 19:29 | |
| lucasagomes | Shrews, oh noes :( | 19:29 |
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| devananda | do we see discovering hardware properties as something that can fit into the ready-state discussion? | 19:31 |
| devananda | or realy worth a separate slot? | 19:31 |
| jroll | I think it fits; I don't think we'll have time | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | I was thinking it fits | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: that will be one of our more contenious topics | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | I would vote for a whole slot | 19:31 |
| dtantsur | I'm always for discussion discovery :) | 19:31 |
| jroll | I vote for L :P | 19:31 |
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| rloo | jroll: 'L'? | 19:32 |
| jroll | rloo: L cycle | 19:32 |
| jroll | rloo: but I just tend not to care too much about discovery :) | 19:32 |
| devananda | JayF: are you going to cover discovery at all in your talk on wed. afternoon? | 19:33 |
| rloo | jroll: hmm, I think you have to vote in the kilo goal setting session then ;) | 19:33 |
| JoshNang | devananda: not planning on it | 19:33 |
| jroll | ha | 19:34 |
| devananda | hmm | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, based on previous summits there's a bunch of ppl interested in discovery, I would like to see it included in K | 19:34 |
| jroll | devananda: we don't do discovery downstream... | 19:34 |
| jroll | lucasagomes: yep, just my opinion | 19:34 |
| devananda | jroll: gotcha. you trust your inventory db? | 19:34 |
| devananda | JayF and I were talking about this last week | 19:34 |
| jroll | devananda: no, we don't trust it :) | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, sure :) it's all good | 19:34 |
| devananda | wanting to know when hardware ceases to match what your inventory record of it is | 19:34 |
| wanyen | I am intersted in discovery-hw-properties discussion | 19:34 |
| jroll | devananda: we've started playing with verifying what ironic knows vs reality | 19:35 |
| devananda | jroll: so when do you re-check whether a node ... right, that "verification" | 19:35 |
| JoshNang | ^ verifying is hard | 19:35 |
| jroll | yeah, gotcha | 19:35 |
| devananda | that's different from discovering what 's there when you know nothing but IPMI creds | 19:35 |
| devananda | functionally the same process, but different use case | 19:35 |
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| jroll | right | 19:35 |
| devananda | and definitely something everyone has been interested in for a while | 19:36 |
| devananda | I'm starting to think it's worth a separate slot | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | ++ | 19:36 |
| wanyen | ++ | 19:36 |
| lucasagomes | heh yeah it looks like now | 19:36 |
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| NobodyCam | I think just a general introspection vs discovery conversation will take up a fair amount of time | 19:37 |
| rloo | what/how much time do you think 'decom' will take? | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: who is that too? | 19:37 |
| devananda | I am hoping/expecting that all of us will attend JayF's and JoshNang's talk on decom | 19:38 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: huh? | 19:38 |
| JoshNang | :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | so we don't need to talk about what it is, and instead can talk about how we generalize it | 19:38 |
| wanyen | is decom a seperate session or is it part of the ready state? | 19:38 |
| rloo | devananda: yeah. So I was wondering (sorry Js) whether we needed decom in a session | 19:38 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: : how much time do you think 'decom' will take? who was that addressed to? | 19:38 |
| rloo | NobodyCam: whoever was going/talking about decom | 19:38 |
| JoshNang | I think decom will be fairly contentious. it's complex to support in the general state, with a lot of possible directions | 19:38 |
| devananda | wanyen: decom and ready-state should be one session IMO | 19:39 |
| devananda | because they are addressing the same use case | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: I agree | 19:39 |
| JoshNang | +1 | 19:39 |
| devananda | "get a node into a state where it is ready to be provisioned" | 19:39 |
| devananda | whether that is a new node or a node just returned to the pool doesn't matter -- it's just different entry points into the same flow, as it were | 19:39 |
| devananda | *different reasons | 19:40 |
| wanyen | deva, that's fine. we might want to consider naming decom to ready state? | 19:40 |
| devananda | wanyen: ++ | 19:40 |
| devananda | JayF, JoshNang ^ | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | that's a good point | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | i'd be good with that | 19:40 |
| JayF | I don't mind that at all, as a concept | 19:41 |
| JayF | we always viewed decom as something that was the "first" step, not the "last" step anyway | 19:41 |
| devananda | ok, so we're still left with a desire for a discussion around discovery and no slot for it ... | 19:41 |
| devananda | what gets moved? | 19:41 |
| devananda | retrospective and goal setting is lowest on my list | 19:42 |
| rloo | can we do the retrospective via email? | 19:42 |
| JayF | stand-alone ironic? | 19:42 |
| lucasagomes | hmm the retrospective needs to be an official slot? can't be something in the contributor meetup? | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | thats what I was just looking at | 19:43 |
| mrda | lucasagomes: +1 | 19:43 |
| devananda | we already have a process for doing that via specs and launchpad | 19:43 |
| JayF | I think that's likely to have the most amount of movement without having f2f conversation | 19:43 |
| devananda | a discussion in the meetup might still be good | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | yeah cause retrospective is good, but won't generate much discussion (I guess) so we can move it to the end of the day friday | 19:44 |
| devananda | JayF: that's also a good point | 19:44 |
| jroll | ++ for friday | 19:44 |
| wanyen | I think tehra are many folks interested in instrospection - discover hw properties so it deserves a session | 19:44 |
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| rloo | retrospective: we wanted introspection and we still haven't gotten it yet :-) | 19:44 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: lol | 19:44 |
| devananda | rloo: LOL | 19:44 |
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| lucasagomes | lol | 19:45 |
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| jroll | can I go off topic for a moment? is anyone interested in moving the time of this meeting? (probably to something earlier). this is pretty late for european folks and during tech talks / lunch for us rackspace people | 19:46 |
| mrda | or later :) | 19:46 |
| rloo | the most useful thing from retrospective, is if there are things that we can improve on, that we might want to discuss f2f. but ... something has to give. maybe we can start that via email before, and then meet like lucas suggested, on fri | 19:46 |
| jroll | not sure what's available but would love to eat lunch away from my laptop on mondays :) | 19:46 |
| jroll | mrda: oh yeah, there's you... | 19:46 |
| jroll | :P | 19:46 |
| devananda | jroll: I'm fine with that. also, it's going to change to an hour earlier for US folks because of DST | 19:46 |
| devananda | if there are no more comments on the schedule ... | 19:46 |
| rloo | jroll: but if you make it earlier, it means mrda has to get up earlier | 19:46 |
| jroll | devananda: oh, right, that will satisfy me enough. leave it to everyone else, then :) | 19:47 |
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| lucasagomes | :D | 19:47 |
| mrda | jroll: Just work in GMT+9.5 and we'll all be happy :) | 19:47 |
| jroll | nonono, work on utc | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | I'm good with the schedule changes we've come up with here | 19:47 |
| devananda | thanks, everyone, for the feedback on scheduling for the summit | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | FYI 12 minutes left | 19:48 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:48 |
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| rloo | and those Js can even skip the introspection session ;) | 19:48 |
| jroll | ha, no! | 19:48 |
| devananda | one question for folks -- should we have a meeting next week? (last one before the summit) | 19:49 |
| rloo | oh wait, you want to change it to 11 wed instead? (I forgot which time wasn't good for the Js) | 19:49 |
| jroll | I don't see why not | 19:49 |
| lucasagomes | I don't see why not | 19:49 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, + heh | 19:49 |
| jroll | rloo: all times are fine for us | 19:49 |
| devananda | k | 19:49 |
| jroll | talks were moved | 19:49 |
| rloo | but skip the meeting after the summit | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | I would lets have a meeting but try and keep it focused on summity things | 19:49 |
| devananda | fwiw, i'll be flying to paris on tuesday, so semi-offline for most of the week prior to the summit | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | as this one has been | 19:49 |
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| adam_g | i will not be around next week, will be offline this wednesday to next wednesday | 19:50 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: ++ | 19:50 |
| jroll | I'll be gone the week after the summit :) | 19:50 |
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| devananda | anyone have other topics to bring up? | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | I'll be there sunday afternoon, if someone wants to catch up for some drinks | 19:51 |
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| mrda | lucasagomes: +1 | 19:51 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: I'll be in a board meeting / dinner sunday -- ya'll should definitely get together though! | 19:51 |
| dtantsur | lucasagomes, +1 | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | oh also for open discussion... congratz to jroll for landing the first Kilo Spec | 19:51 |
| mrda | lucasagomes: Sunday afternoon for something Ironicly informal would be nice | 19:52 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so feel free to organize that | 19:52 |
| jroll | hehe | 19:52 |
| mrda | jroll: good job! | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | right! | 19:52 |
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| devananda | which reminds me, I had suggested we have an informat get-together at some point | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | ok we have 7 minutes... are you guys OK in extending the [driver_]vendor_passthru to support other HTTP methods? | 19:53 |
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| lucasagomes | if so do I need to write a spec for it or a bug would be enough? | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: you want GET? | 19:53 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: broadly speaking, I don't think I'm OK with that yet | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yup, I need it for the iPXE driver | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, right, reasons? | 19:54 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: because a synchronous GET seems crazy to me | 19:54 |
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| devananda | until we actually have a means for a fully asynch API, I don't think we can support that | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, when it talks to the BMC right? | 19:54 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: right | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | but not always that's the case | 19:54 |
| devananda | but opening that up in the API enables it | 19:55 |
| jroll | as long as it doesn't talk to the bmc, should be fine | 19:55 |
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| jroll | driver_vendor_passthru is already sync | 19:55 |
| devananda | even if you might not implement it, the API is there for someone else to do so | 19:55 |
| jroll | like, document it and move on | 19:55 |
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| devananda | jroll: that doesn't have a node reference | 19:55 |
| jroll | we'll catch that sort of thing in code review | 19:55 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, right, but that's something that we can't document right? I mean we can advise people to not use it to talk to the BMC | 19:55 |
| devananda | jroll: we don't get to review all the drivers. some exist downstream | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, and use async POST for e.g for that | 19:55 |
| jroll | devananda: POST /drivers/whatever/vendor_passthru {'method': 'ping_all_the_bmcs'} | 19:55 |
| devananda | jroll: also, documentation is something we're sorely lacking right now, IMHO | 19:56 |
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| jroll | devananda: sure, but we can't like, not allow cool things to happen because someone might shoot themselves in the foot | 19:56 |
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| lucasagomes | +1 | 19:56 |
| dtantsur | devananda, I'm not sure we can hold responsibilities for every crazy thing that might happen downstream | 19:56 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: what's the example where you need this? | 19:56 |
| jroll | asynchronous GET sounds absolutely absurd to me | 19:56 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, to generate the pxe config files | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | oh documentation .. that sounds like a good hacking session | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | GET /v1/drivers/ipxe/<MAC> | 19:56 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: generate them outside of ironic? | 19:56 |
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| bth- | g | 19:57 |
| devananda | s/generate/store/ | 19:57 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, well but the idea is to get a pxe config file on the flight using some HTTP request | 19:57 |
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| lucasagomes | and ironic already has an api, so I would like to use it | 19:57 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: ahh. gotcha | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: maybe a spec would help | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | and in the ipxe script I would just do a: chain http://ironic-api/v1/driver/ipxe/<MAC> | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | and chainload to that | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | no BMC talk at all | 19:58 |
| devananda | so GET /v1/drivers/ipxe/vendor_passthru?method=config&mac=NNNN | 19:58 |
| devananda | something like that | 19:58 |
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| lucasagomes | exactly | 19:58 |
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| devananda | yea, I can totally see how that's useful | 19:58 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, right I will try to put something up soonish | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | :) awesome TY | 19:59 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: spec would help describe the workflow, I think | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, right :) | 19:59 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, I will put one up then | 19:59 |
| jroll | one minute beep | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | I will continue on the channel | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:59 |
| rloo | speaking of async, do we want to discuss async REST api at the summit? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94923/ | 19:59 |
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| jroll | thanks everybody :) | 19:59 |
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| devananda | rloo: that was on my list but got dropped ... | 20:00 |
| devananda | rloo: so yes, but not in a slot | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | great meeting Thank you all | 20:00 |
| devananda | anyhow, thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| mrda | thanks! | 20:00 |
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| rloo | devananda: ok | 20:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| wanyen | thanks! | 20:00 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 20:02 |
| openstack | sdake_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 20:02 |
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| radez | sdake_: I think the first time you did it it took | 20:03 |
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| daneyon | looks like it started the first time | 20:03 |
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| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 20:04 |
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| larsks | Hallo. | 20:04 |
| daneyon | here | 20:04 |
| portante | o/ | 20:05 |
| jpeeler | hi! | 20:05 |
| rbowen | here | 20:05 |
| radez | present | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | hi folks \p/ | 20:05 |
| bth- | heynow | 20:05 |
| rhallisey | heyy :) | 20:05 |
| jlabocki | howdy | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 20:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 20:05:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-10-20-20.01.html | 20:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-10-20-20.01.txt | 20:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-10-20-20.01.log.html | 20:06 |
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| daneyon | that was nice and quick... now back to work :-) | 20:06 |
| * larsks wishes all meetings were that quick. | 20:06 | |
| jpeeler | well that was short | 20:06 |
| sdake | hey going to start over :) | 20:06 |
| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 20:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 20 20:06:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:06 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:06 | |
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| larsks | Still here. | 20:06 |
| sdake | \o/ hi folks take 2 :) | 20:06 |
| jlabocki | me too | 20:06 |
| jpeeler | hello again | 20:07 |
| radez | hey ya'll | 20:07 |
| daneyon | here | 20:07 |
| bth- | heynow | 20:07 |
| rhallisey | hey | 20:07 |
| rbowen | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 20:07 |
| sdake | #topic agenda | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:07 | |
| sdake | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla | 20:07 |
| sdake | anyone have anything to add? | 20:07 |
| sdake | also if you do have stuff to add feel free to edit that wiki page | 20:08 |
| sdake | #topic milestone 1 blueprint review | 20:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "milestone 1 blueprint review (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:08 | |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-1 | 20:09 |
| sdake | almost all green | 20:09 |
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| sdake | nvoa has some outstanding reviews | 20:09 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:+stackforge/kolla,n,z | 20:10 |
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| sdake | so we need to do a quick review of heat | 20:10 |
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| sdake | I've been reviewing along the way and it looks pretty solid | 20:10 |
| sdake | larsks can you take a look at the review for heat? | 20:10 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/128994 | 20:11 |
| larsks | Sure; I will do that this afternoon. | 20:11 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/129639 | 20:11 |
| larsks | (errrr.../evening) | 20:11 |
| sdake | radez as well if possible? | 20:11 |
| radez | sure thing | 20:11 |
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| sdake | cool | 20:11 |
| sdake | thgat just leaves https://review.openstack.org/129639 | 20:12 |
| sdake | and we are done | 20:12 |
| sdake | jpeeler be watching for when your patch lands and change the state in launchpad | 20:12 |
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| jpeeler | yep, on it | 20:12 |
| sdake | larsks can you have a review of https://review.openstack.org/129639 | 20:12 |
| sdake | and daneyon and jpeeler as well ? :) | 20:12 |
| sdake | then I think we are set | 20:13 |
| jpeeler | well i submitted that one too | 20:13 |
| sdake | there are no filed bugs, so I'll skip the bug review | 20:13 |
| daneyon | i'll review both after the meeting. | 20:13 |
| sdake | anyone have any comments on the blueprint review? | 20:13 |
| sdake | thanks daneyon | 20:13 |
| sdake | #topic milestone #1 announcement | 20:13 |
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| sdake | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-1-ann | 20:14 |
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| sdake | ok what would be ideal is if we had 2-3 folks run through the instructions and make sure they work | 20:14 |
| sdake | any volunteers? | 20:14 |
| sdake | needs to be done in next 2 hours | 20:14 |
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| jlabocki | I'll do it | 20:14 |
| larsks | Not it. | 20:14 |
| jlabocki | as long as someone is available on the tech support line | 20:15 |
| radez | I won't be able to, sry | 20:15 |
| jlabocki | :) | 20:15 |
| jlabocki | link me to the instructions | 20:15 |
| bth- | i can do it as well | 20:15 |
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| sdake | they are in the last link | 20:15 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I can do it too | 20:15 |
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| sdake | cool so jlabocki, bth, rhallisey | 20:15 |
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| daneyon | etherpad announcement looks sweet. | 20:15 |
| sdake | I'll also give it a spin | 20:15 |
| larsks | I think it is important to emphasize in any announcement the early state of this work, and that we do not, in fact, expect it to produce a completely functional environment. | 20:15 |
| sdake | daneyon group effort :) | 20:15 |
| larsks | Otherwise we will be inundated with "it didn't work" messages. | 20:16 |
| sdake | larsks agree - if you want to add the necessary disclaimer that would be good | 20:16 |
| sdake | but people will often only take a look at software once | 20:16 |
| sdake | so we want them to look and *understand* what it offers long term for them | 20:16 |
| sdake | any other thoughts on the announcement and final testing? | 20:17 |
| sdake | bth, jlabocki, rhallisey if you can ping me via irc when your done Id appreciate it | 20:17 |
| rhallisey | sure | 20:17 |
| jlabocki | will do | 20:17 |
| bth- | ack | 20:17 |
| sdake | #topic Milestone #2 blueprint review | 20:18 |
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| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-2 | 20:18 |
| sdake | * Open Discussion | 20:18 |
| sdake | oops :) | 20:18 |
| sdake | so milestone 2 | 20:18 |
| sdake | there is a bunch in there | 20:18 |
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| sdake | we will porbably have to push off stuff to milestone 3 | 20:18 |
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| sdake | lets do a live prioritization discussion of milestone #2 | 20:18 |
| sdake | if anything is wrong priority please let me know | 20:18 |
| daneyon | ya, DS prep is going to slow some things down for me. | 20:19 |
| sdake | I will use priority to cut stuff into milestone #3 | 20:19 |
| sdake | DS prep? | 20:19 |
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| daneyon | Paris | 20:19 |
| sdake | oh you mean oDS | 20:19 |
| sdake | anything in essential that hsould be in high? | 20:19 |
| larsks | I would push off barbican and zaraq right away, since those are still in incubation (so...nice to have, but not essential). I would also push out k8s-reset-librarb and kolla-cli probably. I would make horizion higher priority. | 20:19 |
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| larsks | s/zaraq/zaqar/ | 20:20 |
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| larsks | I would prioritize config-outside-container, because that will make it much easier for us to scale things out. | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | sdake, how about ironic? | 20:20 |
| larsks | We need blueprints for figure-out-the-heck-we-are-doing-with-networking. | 20:20 |
| radez | I agree I think the core projects shoudl be higher prio than the incubation ones | 20:21 |
| jlabocki | larsks: +1 on networking | 20:21 |
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| rhallisey | agreed larsks | 20:21 |
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| sdake | kolla rest lib and kolla cli are manage outsid ethe consider features larsks | 20:21 |
| jlabocki | I would put less emphasis on cli and rest and more on making the core services work | 20:22 |
| larsks | sdake: Those things do not related to the config-outside-container blueprint. | 20:22 |
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| sdake | oh i se | 20:22 |
| larsks | jlabocki: Right, yes. I think those should be milestone-3 at least. | 20:22 |
| sdake | I missed that | 20:22 |
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| sdake | ok any other thoughts? | 20:23 |
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| sdake | I'll take all this feedback and sort into a m2/m3 list | 20:23 |
| daneyon | Thoughts on the following for neutron: 1. Disable L3/DHCP name spaces and allow_overlapping_ips= false. Use ML2+LinuxBridge/L2 Pop mech drivers and VXLAN tenant networks? | 20:23 |
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| sdake | (wednesday likely) | 20:23 |
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| larsks | sdake: We should probably have a blueprint for deployment orchestration: we have lots of environment variables, potential storage configuration choices, etc. How is this all set before starting up pods? | 20:24 |
| sdake | larsks that is what the cli is for | 20:24 |
| sdake | but I'll maek it more clear with an additional blueprint | 20:24 |
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| jpeeler | when is gating going to become voting? and what about testing in general? | 20:24 |
| sdake | that is the sole purpose of the cli/restapi blueprints | 20:24 |
| daneyon | btw-: found #link https://github.com/dave-tucker/docker-ovs for ovs in userspace. | 20:24 |
| sdake | let me switch to open discussion for that jpeeler | 20:25 |
| sdake | still talking about priorities on blueprints for milestone 2 / 3 | 20:25 |
| daneyon | My though is linuxbridges instead of ovs until we can test ovs in userspace. | 20:25 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 20:25 |
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| larsks | sdake: have you had the chance to fix the bashate gate yet? | 20:26 |
| larsks | I haven't checked recently. | 20:26 |
| sdake | nada | 20:26 |
| sdake | been working like a maniac for 2 weeks | 20:26 |
| sdake | i'll get to it afer this release | 20:26 |
| sdake | probably when folks are at summit | 20:26 |
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| sdake | regarding jpeelers gate question | 20:27 |
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| sdake | we really need to get a gate in place soon | 20:27 |
| sdake | that does actual testing | 20:27 |
| sdake | I'm not s ure how best to do that | 20:27 |
| sdake | I guess we could use t empest | 20:27 |
| jlabocki | votes for using openshift origin :) | 20:28 |
| sdake | daneyon I don't have pref on the network tech used as long as it works like a champ :) | 20:28 |
| sdake | any other open topics? | 20:28 |
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| larsks | kubernetes 0.4 is in fedora updates-testing, coming soon to a deployment near you. | 20:29 |
| sdake | #topic release steps | 20:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release steps (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:29 | |
| sdake | ok so next steps are | 20:29 |
| larsks | Hold on there, cowboy. | 20:29 |
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| sdake | #undo | 20:29 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x33b9dd0> | 20:29 |
| daneyon | larsks: do you have any thoughts/concerns with the ideas i threw our re neutron? | 20:29 |
| larsks | daneyon: I think it sounds reasonable? I would prefer kernel OVS, and just require OVS on the host, but if it can work in userspace I guess it's worth a shot. | 20:30 |
| larsks | But ultimately, let's get something that works, and we can always re-jigger things as necessary. | 20:30 |
| daneyon | larsks: got it. thx. | 20:30 |
| larsks | sdake: Actually, is this the right time for talking about kube 0.4? Or do you want me to hold off until later in the meeting... | 20:31 |
| sdake | now is good | 20:31 |
| larsks | Okay. So, 0.4 is coming. It will totally break existing deployments. | 20:31 |
| rhallisey | :( | 20:31 |
| larsks | The "kubecfg" command is gone, replaced by "kubectl". There are some new requirements for our YAML files. | 20:32 |
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| larsks | I am going to looking at fixing the heat templates tomorrow. | 20:32 |
| larsks | You can test it now with "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade", but you will need to deal with the new config stuff in /etc/kubernetes. | 20:32 |
| larsks | ...and who knows what else. Still looking into it. | 20:33 |
| larsks | I will send email to the ML when I have things working. | 20:33 |
| * larsks is all done with k8s 0.4 topics. | 20:33 | |
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| sdake | anything else folks? | 20:33 |
| sdake | I just wanted to cover real quick our tactical steps for the release | 20:33 |
| sdake | 1. merge existing patches | 20:33 |
| sdake | 2. 3 testers identified to manually test release instructions | 20:34 |
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| sdake | 3. tag and release | 20:34 |
| sdake | 4. announce to ml tmorrow | 20:34 |
| sdake | any questions? | 20:34 |
| sdake | if testing goes wrong, we may slip a day, so lets make sure testing goes right :) | 20:34 |
| daneyon | sounds like a plan. | 20:34 |
| sdake | ok folks thanks! | 20:35 |
| jlabocki | thanks sdake | 20:35 |
| rhallisey | thank you | 20:35 |
| larsks | Thanks! | 20:35 |
| rhallisey | :) | 20:35 |
| sdake | thanks | 20:35 |
| sdake | thanks :) | 20:35 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 20 20:35:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:35 |
| sdake | enjoy :) | 20:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-10-20-20.06.html | 20:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-10-20-20.06.txt | 20:35 |
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