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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 10 16:00:44 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi guys | 16:00 |
| enykeev | Hey! | 16:00 |
| manask | hi | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | manask, it seems to me you're here for the first time, am I right? | 16:01 |
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| manask | thts correct | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | cool :) Welcome | 16:01 |
| manask | thanks! | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | do you guys know if Dmitri is coming? | 16:02 |
| manask | i dont think so | 16:02 |
| manask | he is on the road so may not have access | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | is anybody here from Mirantis? | 16:03 |
| m4dcoder | o/ | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | today is a holiday in Russia so I'm not sure if all the folks from Mirantis are going to be here | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | as usually, here's the agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | let's review previos AIs first | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Previous Action Items | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | we had the only one from the previous meeting | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | 1. Nikolay, start a ML discussion about model (parsed from DSL) and distinction from db model | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | it was done and looks like we've pretty much agreed on that | 16:06 |
| manask | yes. | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | here's the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75888/ | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | it now looks fine but needs to be rebased | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | Nikolay will do it on Wed (he doesn't work on Tuesdays) | 16:07 |
| manask | k. | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current Status | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current Status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:08 | |
| rakhmerov | I'll start first | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | I've been working on Data Flow, community related things and overall coordination | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | as for Data Flow, my two important patches got merged | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | and another one with additional testing is on its way: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78599/ | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | it's just missing one "+1" vote for now | 16:09 |
| manask | i can take a look today | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | sure, thanks | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | tomorrow I'm going to refactor actions, the current design is incomplete and doesn't match the project vision anymore | 16:10 |
| manask | is there a bluprint? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | and I'm also going to review everything what's been done on Data Flow and identify what's left. Overall it's done, maybe I need to test some specific scenarious | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | manask, no, we don't have a BP yet. I think the closest blueprint is the one Dmitri is supposed to work on | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | about pluggable actions | 16:12 |
| manask | k | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | they are kinda related | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | I'll create a BP first, right | 16:12 |
| manask | sure. Thanks! | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | but just not to loose time I'll also start doing that, so that we can see both the description and the code | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | we can adjust that if we need to | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I can also say for Nikolay | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | he's finished that important object model thing (still dunno how to call it properly) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | he's also fixed an important thing in the engine (multiple tasks in on-XXX sections) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | can you guys quickly describe your status? | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | whoever is ready.. | 16:15 |
| manask | i can go | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok, go ahead | 16:16 |
| manask | slow week … apart from looks at changes and some email discussion no progress | 16:16 |
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| manask | next I am working on std:repeater code today | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok, understandable, no worries | 16:17 |
| manask | expect to see a review by EOD tomm | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | I told Nikolay to help you if needed | 16:17 |
| manask | yes i fully expect to need some support | 16:17 |
| manask | you said he does not work Tuesday - right? | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | we got familiar with the etherpad you wrote and Nikolay is 100% aware of how engine works | 16:17 |
| manask | perfect | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, unfortunately he doesn't.. | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | you can also ping me | 16:18 |
| manask | will do; | 16:18 |
| m4dcoder | i've started work on removing the local engine. but i have a few questions which i need to send to dev ML to get opinion. because the fake driver for oslo.messaging is using an in proc queue, the API and executor need to be running in the same process with a shared transport when it's configured to use the fake driver. | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | alright | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | manask, but what you suggested seems to be ok to me. When implementing that please keep in mind that we'll need to refactor it later when we havev that workflow grouping | 16:19 |
| m4dcoder | also, need to rebase my last patch on oslo.messaging... doesn't help when the rest action is not fully working... i have to modify the test somewhat... | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | workflow1, workflow2 etc.. | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, ok | 16:19 |
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| manask | rakhmerov : ok | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, yes, pls send your questions | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | and you can actually ask them here if you think it makes sense now | 16:21 |
| m4dcoder | i want to have a proposal first. | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ok, sure | 16:21 |
| m4dcoder | i'm still working thru that. | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | the main requirement for that is that it works just like it does now | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | I mean we should be able to configure engine and transport so that we can run workflows within a single process | 16:22 |
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| enykeev | I'm hopefully finished with python-mistralclient tests and context serialization (both of them are on review right now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78539/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79242/) and started digging into TaskFlow. I had also worked on the listeners blueprint, but we decided to postpone this one until we both find a proper use cases for them and finish with object model. | 16:23 |
| m4dcoder | yep | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | and ideally it should be easy to do | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
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| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: you told us last week you'll email your thoughts on TaskFlow. did you do that? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, I did? | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | enykeev, +1 from me for both patches | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, as far as I remember I told in ML that we'd get familiar with what's been going in TaskFlow for the last month and see how we can live on with Taskflow together | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | our plan regarding this is digg into TaskFlow (enykeev started doing this) and then try to build a very very simple prototype based on it | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | to be able to see better all the mismatches and problems, if any | 16:28 |
| m4dcoder | got it. | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | but, generally, i'd say it's very important for us | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | for a number of reasons | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, my next topic is Repeater | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | but we've already touched it a little bit | 16:30 |
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| manask | correct | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | manask, do you wanna talk about it more? | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | or it's fine for now and you have no roadblocks? | 16:31 |
| manask | I hoep folks get a chance to look at the blueprint and provide any comments | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | at least for the first implementation | 16:31 |
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| manask | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-std-repeat-action | 16:31 |
| manask | no roadblocks | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | enykeev, I think it would be helpful if you could start participating this too | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | it's all actually related with that TaskFlow thing... | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | not directly but anyway | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | mostly conceptually | 16:32 |
| manask | yes. It may drive some requirements to that integration | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | it's going to touch the overall engine architecture | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | yep | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's move on | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | #topic What's left on Pilot | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | this is an important thing :) | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | according to our Roadmap (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Roadmap) we should have finished Pilot a couple of weeks ago | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | which is fine since, apparently, it was too positive estimation | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | so as far what Pilot should contain I'm still thinking about an example described here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | it's already outdated in terms of syntax but I'm still targeting to that idea | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | unless we come up with something better | 16:36 |
| manask | k. Do you know what is missing? | 16:36 |
| manask | as in is there a list we can attack? | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | mostly repeater :) | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | and a series of smaller things | 16:37 |
| manask | k. | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | for example, like I said before not everything is ok with actions | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | this week I'm going to switch to more kind of analytic work to identify everything more detailed | 16:39 |
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| manask | perfect. If you file bugs or create blueprint topics we can systematically go in and finish up | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | we already have this example workflow in mistral-extra so I'll start launching it to see what else is missing | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | so we need to make it work as soon as we can | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | but repeater is the major thing | 16:40 |
| manask | Ack! | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | so please keep us posted on the progress | 16:40 |
| manask | yes. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | one of the important thing that we need to do is to make it work with a real OS installation | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | and I believe we'll face more problems with it | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | one thing is in my head even now | 16:42 |
| manask | are you targetting a specific OS? | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | somehow, we need to insert auth token when HTTP actions make requests to Nove, for example | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | manask, you mean specific version? | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | or what? | 16:43 |
| manask | yes like ubuntu 12 | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, I meant OpenStack | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | by OS | 16:43 |
| manask | got it … sorry! | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | np | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | so as for that auth token thing we have a couple of ideas with Nikolay which aren't captured anyway | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | let me capture a couple of AI | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, create a BP describing insertion of auth token into HTTP action requests | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, create a BP on actions refactoring | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, identify all the things left on Pilot | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | so, once this example completely works we need to record a screencast, update wiki and other sources, complete specs and so on. A lot of work | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | and share the results with community | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | so let's try to do it as quickly as possible | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | after that we'll take a pause and review everything: DSL, API, design and file a bunch of new BPs based on that for the next cycles | 16:49 |
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| manask | agreed. | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I don't have any more specific topics for now | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | if you guys have anything let's talk | 16:50 |
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| manask | quick administrative update | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:51 |
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| manask | i am now using manas@stackstorm.com | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:51 |
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| manask | i will do my best to update systems asap but if you need to unicast me then please use the new one. | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | ok, sure | 16:52 |
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| manask | thts it from me | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | can we finish? | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | alright, thanks to everyone! | 16:53 |
| enykeev | seems like we can | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:53 |
| manask | thanks! | 16:53 |
| enykeev | Thanks | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | bye guys, I think we'll be moving faster now | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | I mean development | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | bye guys, have a good day/night ) | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 10 16:54:19 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-10-16.00.html | 16:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-03-10-16.00.txt | 16:54 |
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| jaypipes | #startmeeting 3rd-party-ci | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 10 18:02:28 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to '3rd_party_ci' | 18:02 |
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| banix | hi | 18:02 |
| jaypipes | good afternoon stackers. anyone here for the third party CI Q&A meeting? | 18:02 |
| jaypipes | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/third-party-ci-workshop | 18:03 |
| jeblair | o/ | 18:03 |
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| dwalleck | howdy :D | 18:03 |
| jaypipes | so, unfortunately, I did not have time to complete a followup article on setting up nodepool this past week. | 18:03 |
| jaypipes | I promise to have that done shortly, however. | 18:03 |
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| jaypipes | I have not seen any specific questions around 3rd party CI on the infra or dev lists, so the floor is open for questions. | 18:04 |
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| jaypipes | dwalleck: howdy cowboy! | 18:04 |
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| jaypipes | could it be that nobody has any issues with 3rd party CI? :) | 18:07 |
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| fungi | i'm thinking we've been doing a great job if that's the case! | 18:07 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 18:07 |
| jeblair | no one is allowed to complain if they don't speak up at this meeting! :) | 18:07 |
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| jaypipes | well, I did get one question on my blog about setting up FTP for artifact publshing, but that fellow isn't in the channel. I'll write a follow up blog about that I suppose. | 18:08 |
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| jeblair | we're pretty close to having zuul able to support jenkins and others publishing artifacts to swift | 18:08 |
| jeblair | hopefully we'll be doing that in openstack-infra soon | 18:09 |
| jeblair | (i'm planning on reviewing those patches today) | 18:09 |
| jaypipes | ooh, very nice :) | 18:09 |
| rfolco | jeblair, +1 we're very interested on that | 18:09 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: if you have links to those patches, I'd be happy to take a look (and will include links to the eventual merged commits in an article...) | 18:09 |
| jaypipes | rfolco: hi! what are you currently doing for publishing artifacts? dropbox? some custom ftp site? | 18:10 |
| jeblair | jaypipes: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:swift,n,z | 18:10 |
| rfolco | jaypipes, Softlayer | 18:10 |
| jaypipes | rfolco: kk | 18:11 |
| jaypipes | jeblair: cheers | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | heh, we'll update savanna-ci after project renaming to latest zuul version and I'll recheck 3rd party CI requirements fulfillment | 18:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bah, it'll be sahara-ci | 18:11 |
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| jaypipes | SergeyLukjanov: still getting used to the rename, I see :) | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | SergeyLukjanov: no worries. I'm still writing 2013 on checks. ;) | 18:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | jaypipes, yup, ~2 years will be enough :) | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 18:12 |
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| jaypipes | OK, well if anyone thinks up any questions around 3rd party CI, feel free to email the -dev or -infra mailing list and I'll include them in next week's session. Going to close this one up. | 18:14 |
| jaypipes | #endmeeting | 18:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 10 18:14:35 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/3rd_party_ci/2014/3rd_party_ci.2014-03-10-18.02.html | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/3rd_party_ci/2014/3rd_party_ci.2014-03-10-18.02.txt | 18:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/3rd_party_ci/2014/3rd_party_ci.2014-03-10-18.02.log.html | 18:14 |
| jaypipes | shortest. meeting. ever. | 18:14 |
| fungi | pure, unadulterated success | 18:14 |
| jaypipes | :) | 18:15 |
| rfolco | injected exit 0 | 18:15 |
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| MrJoshua | Anyone here for the ETC Cloud Meeting? (Milk-Dev) | 18:59 |
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| NobodyCam | MrJoshua: Ironic meeting is next up | 18:59 |
| jroll | MrJoshua: this is the ironic meeting | 18:59 |
| jroll | DST may have tricked you :) | 18:59 |
| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 10 19:00:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | who's here for the Ironic meeting | 19:00 |
| matty_dubs | \o | 19:00 |
| jroll | \o | 19:00 |
| JayF | o/ | 19:00 |
| max_lobur | o/ | 19:00 |
| devananda | o/ | 19:00 |
| linggao | me | 19:00 |
| Shrews | o/ | 19:00 |
| dwalleck | howdy :) | 19:00 |
| ifarkas | o/ | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | me | 19:00 |
| romcheg1 | \o | 19:00 |
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| devananda | hi all! | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | welcome all | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:01 |
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| romcheg1 | I was missing you :) | 19:01 |
| devananda | it was great to see so many of you last week -- and for the rest, I look forward to seeing you in Atlanta | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | was great to see everyone at the sprint | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:01 |
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| dwalleck | So I'm tagging along with the other Rackers | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: would you like to recap some if last week? | 19:02 |
| devananda | hopefully we can keep the meeting somewaht short today - i suspect some of us are still recovering from travel | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | new deploy agent? | 19:02 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: sure | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | and time change | 19:02 |
| devananda | so three things happened last week that I want to mention | 19:02 |
| devananda | feature freeze was tuesday, and ttx cut an I3 milestone of Ironic | 19:03 |
| devananda | we're following the general releace cycle, which means no more major features should land in tree until Juno opens | 19:03 |
| devananda | bug fixes, documentation, and integration work are all good things to work on | 19:04 |
| devananda | there's plenty of that to go around :) | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:04 |
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| devananda | also | 19:04 |
| devananda | we talked with the rackspace team a bunch about their driver and deply agent | 19:04 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:04 |
| devananda | i sent an email to the list, so i won't recap much here | 19:05 |
| devananda | besides to welcome them to the meeting and the project | 19:05 |
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| devananda | and say that i'm excited to have rackspace finally joining us :) | 19:05 |
| jroll | :) | 19:06 |
| devananda | lastly | 19:06 |
| devananda | adam_g and Shrews made a lot of progress with agordeev's devstack patch | 19:06 |
| devananda | and it seems to be quite functional now | 19:06 |
| wanyen | Does Nova Ironic driver make to the icehouse? | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | nice! | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | awesome and welcome to the RS folks | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | I woud like to draw attention to the fact that we have pulled the ironic-nova driver into our tree. for those who have not seen it there yet | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: ^^ | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | no | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, the Nova Ironic Driver is now being developed in the Ironic tree | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, we are going to push it to nova again on J | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | yes! | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78002/ | 19:08 |
| wanyen | oka, Thanks! | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | ty lucasagomes :) | 19:08 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: thanks for the reminder - and for those who want to know more, I mentioned that in my email t othe dev list as well | 19:08 |
| ifarkas | devananda, the guide agordeev created is still relevant or needs to be updated: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicAndDevstackAgain ? | 19:08 |
| devananda | anyone else have announcements / things to share from last week? | 19:08 |
| dwalleck | And if anyone needs any help with testing of the Nova Ironic Driver, I'd be more than glad to pitch in <-- tester/CI person | 19:09 |
| devananda | ifarkas: i believe taht etherpad is correct. last I saw, adam_g was updating it as he went | 19:09 |
| ifarkas | devananda, ok, thanks | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | other then BIG thank you's to HP and YAHOO! for hosting | 19:09 |
| devananda | dwalleck: yes! thanks! see that etherpad ^ | 19:09 |
| matty_dubs | We did set up https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicDocumentationTasks to coordinate work on documentation if that's useful to others | 19:09 |
| devananda | dwalleck: please chat with Shrews and adam_g in #openstack-ironic post meeting | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicDocumentationTasks | 19:10 |
| Shrews | devananda, ifarkas: i question the correctness of that etherpad, atm | 19:10 |
| devananda | Shrews: ack ... well, it's an etherpad after all ... i'm sure someone will update it ;) | 19:10 |
| Shrews | mainly because 70348 is not referenced anymore for some reason | 19:10 |
| devananda | ok, moving on then | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70348/ | 19:11 |
| ifarkas | Shrews, devananda, right. the localrc file still checks out the gerrit branch for nova | 19:11 |
| devananda | ifarkas: ah. that's a problem | 19:11 |
| devananda | it also needs to set the virt_driver to a different value now taht the driver is in ironic's tree, not nova's | 19:12 |
| devananda | let's circle back to that in a bit | 19:12 |
| devananda | #topic what got postponed to Juno | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "what got postponed to Juno (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:12 | |
| devananda | a few blueprints got bumped last week | 19:12 |
| * devananda should have the links handy, but doesn't | 19:12 | |
| devananda | windows / whole-disk image support | 19:13 |
| devananda | ipmitool console via shellinaboxd | 19:13 |
| devananda | HP iLO driver | 19:13 |
| devananda | ceilometer integration | 19:13 |
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| devananda | </end> | 19:13 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: topic question. if people what to continue to work ok blocked (-2'd) patches until J cycle opens can/should they push up new revs or hold off until J is open? | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | s/work ok/work on/ | 19:14 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: thanks for asking | 19:14 |
| devananda | I encourage folks to continue working on features taht didn't make it in | 19:14 |
| devananda | and pushing patches up if they want to | 19:14 |
| romcheg1 | -2 won't get overridden anyway | 19:14 |
| devananda | I'll try to look now and then, if I see activity | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | +1 | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:15 |
| devananda | gerrit will carry the -2 forward onto new patch sets, and I'll remove that as soon as Juno development opens | 19:15 |
| devananda | it is in no way a reflection on not wanting the contribution | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: thank you for the answer :) | 19:15 |
| devananda | just a matter of time -- we didn't have enough | 19:15 |
| devananda | it looks to me like the whole-disk-image support and ipmitool console support were pretty close | 19:16 |
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| devananda | so I'm hoping we can keep those alive and land as soon as juno opens | 19:16 |
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| devananda | any questions about postponed work? | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | when is J opened | 19:17 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:17 |
| devananda | IMBW, but I believe Juno is opened as soon as RC1 is branched | 19:18 |
| devananda | which would be the last week of March | 19:18 |
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| devananda | we then maintain the RC branch for a few weeks and back-port fixes if an only of necessary | 19:18 |
| devananda | before the final reelease is cut ~ april 19th | 19:18 |
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| devananda | any more questions? | 19:19 |
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| devananda | #topic working towards RC | 19:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "working towards RC (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:19 | |
| devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 | 19:19 |
| devananda | very briefly | 19:20 |
| devananda | if you find or see a bug taht you think is essential to fix *now* | 19:20 |
| devananda | please bring it to the attention of a -core member | 19:20 |
| devananda | and we'll target to RC | 19:20 |
| devananda | that list is tracked at the link abovce | 19:20 |
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| devananda | it's also the reference taht the release team has | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | just fwiw: I'm looking a few issues on Bug #1289048 | 19:21 |
| devananda | and they won't release until everything targeted to RC is marked as fix-committed | 19:21 |
| devananda | #topic what to expect in Juno | 19:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "what to expect in Juno (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:22 | |
| devananda | another real quick point here -- besides the bumped BP's, what we do is largely up to all of you | 19:22 |
| devananda | so please go propose sessions for the design summit :) | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: do we have a session on the new deploy agent stuff? | 19:22 |
| jroll | NobodyCam: we haven't proposed any, afaik | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | would like to sink my teeth in to that :-p | 19:23 |
| devananda | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 19:23 |
| jroll | yeah, we'll put one up this week | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | jroll: awesome :) | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, :P yeah we def need a section for that | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | jroll, nice | 19:24 |
| jroll | it looks like there's no ironic sessions at all right now? | 19:24 |
| devananda | unless there are any process questions about the summit or session proposals, i'd like to open the floor for general discussion soon | 19:24 |
| devananda | jroll: hmm... lemme check | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | open the gates~ :) | 19:25 |
| devananda | jroll: yea, none proposed yet | 19:25 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:25 |
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| lucasagomes | maybe the guys working on supporting disk image should propouse one, that would be an interesting one | 19:26 |
| lucasagomes | or we can propose it ourselfs if needed | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | how summit session for Driver architecture for Chassis object ... | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | seems to me we don't have a good idea of what the chassis is currently doing / needed for | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | gah/ s/how summit/ how about a summit/ | 19:28 |
| ifarkas | devananda, regarding devstack, to what value does virt_driver need to be set in localrc? | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | ifarkas, http://paste.openstack.org/show/73053/ | 19:28 |
| devananda | jroll / JayF - by the summit, you guys will probably have the agent cleaned up a lot. I'd definitely encourage you to spend a few minutes presenting the work you've got and then let folks discuss their needs and see how it all fits together | 19:28 |
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| devananda | I also think we should have a session on CI | 19:28 |
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| lucasagomes | here's a nova conf file pointing to the nova ironic driver in the ironic tree | 19:28 |
| devananda | both devstack and tripleo | 19:28 |
| JayF | I was thinking from a focus perspective, we'd want to get the agent+driver to fully working prototype state by the summit. | 19:29 |
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| devananda | JayF: ++ | 19:29 |
| JayF | With a focus on having something working with ironic to demo at the summit | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: ++ :) | 19:29 |
| jroll | agreed :) | 19:29 |
| JayF | I think once we get the non-OS deps out and switch to testr, we'll be focusing on the features needed for finishing a prototype | 19:30 |
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| devananda | JayF: expect a lot of interest in collaboration on it | 19:30 |
| adam_g | assuming the ironic+devstack patch gets finished up this week, i was planning on starting to put together an etherpad tracking tempest coverage of ironic. what passes, whats busted, whats missing, etc. | 19:30 |
| devananda | adam_g: that is very much needed | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | adam_g: that would great | 19:31 |
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| ifarkas | lucasagomes, thanks but I asked specifically regarding the localrc because devananda mentioned before that the virt_driver need to be set to something else | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | ifarkas, ah ack :) I think I missread that | 19:32 |
| devananda | ifarkas: note that scheduler_host_manager and compute_driver both have a prefix of "ironic." now | 19:32 |
| devananda | taht's the change | 19:32 |
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| devananda | those classes are now in ironic.nova.* instead of nova.* | 19:32 |
| adam_g | ifarkas: i saw your comments on the devstack patch, i will be poking closer at it today. i updated it on friday to set drivers accordingly | 19:32 |
| ifarkas | adam_g, devananda, cool, thanks | 19:33 |
| jroll | devananda, NobodyCam: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/26 :) | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: I'll prob be poking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72969 in the next day or so | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | Add Ironic bits to _undercloud | 19:34 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: great | 19:34 |
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| devananda | I think it's time that I did a massive cleanup of our white board :) | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:35 |
| devananda | #action devananda to clean up https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicWhiteBoard | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | can we have a etherpad that lists all our etherpads | 19:36 |
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| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:36 |
| devananda | hehe | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | I have 9 open etherpads | 19:36 |
| devananda | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic#Etherpads | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | doh | 19:37 |
| devananda | a metapad might be better | 19:37 |
| max_lobur | heh | 19:37 |
| devananda | we could move that to the top of the white board,a nd just link that one from the wiki and IRC channel | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | I'll add what I have thats not listed | 19:37 |
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| NobodyCam | this works for me | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah that will be good | 19:38 |
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| NobodyCam | was just looking for a place I could point folks to | 19:38 |
| devananda | k, will do after meeting | 19:38 |
| devananda | I see someone added an item to the agenda to talk about IPMI and gathering metrics fro mother devices | 19:38 |
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| devananda | I'm not sure what that's about -- there's no link | 19:39 |
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| devananda | unless it's a reference to ceilometer work that was abandoned early in icehouse? | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: I assue its "oob" metrics | 19:40 |
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| NobodyCam | assume even | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | do we know who added that? | 19:41 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: looks like you made the edit? | 19:41 |
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| lucasagomes | ah it was me | 19:41 |
| lucasagomes | it's was more to start a brainstorm about whether ironic should collect metrics from other devices | 19:41 |
| lucasagomes | and pass it to ceilometer | 19:41 |
| devananda | define "other devices" | 19:42 |
| lucasagomes | Haomeng was implementing it for nodes in ironic, I think we mentioned that talking to him at some point | 19:42 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: i think that might change our mission statment. | 19:42 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, any other device that ironic might touch, e.g disk arrays | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yeah I see that | 19:43 |
| wanyen | e.g., NICs | 19:43 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i dont see ironic doing configuration of non-compute resources (eg, SAN, switch, etc) | 19:43 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, ack, but as talked ironic might touch these devices for e.g to update the os image on them | 19:45 |
| devananda | I've talked with a few people about whether or not Ironic could provision them -- right | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | cinder manages the storage array, but when it comes to provision a new image to it | 19:45 |
| devananda | but ironic's mission ends once the OS is installed | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | cinder talks to ironic which does it | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | and pass the control backs to cinder | 19:45 |
| wanyen | Ironic can report status of those devices, e.g., link is up or down | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | wanyen: that might be a good topic for the summit, But see that type of reporting out side of Ironic's current scopr | 19:46 |
| devananda | wanyen: i believe lucasagomes is referring to flashing firmware / updating the operating system on a SAN or Switch, not monitoring individual NICs -- which is, IMO, even further from Ironic's mission statement | 19:46 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: here's the use case AIUI | 19:46 |
| devananda | * user talks to cinder to provision storage | 19:47 |
| wanyen | Iwas referring to ceilometer and Ironic integration | 19:47 |
| devananda | * user talks to nova to request compute with that storage attached | 19:47 |
| linggao | devananda, I have a bp passed to me by sjing. it is firmware update. | 19:47 |
| devananda | * nova passes cinder vol info to ironic | 19:47 |
| devananda | * ironic attaches remote storage to hardware | 19:47 |
| linggao | Have you guys discussed it at the Hong Kong summit? | 19:47 |
| devananda | * ironic provisions image on hardware | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | (hi linggao ) | 19:47 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so in that ^ I don't see Ironic as ever having touched cinder or the SAN directly | 19:48 |
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| devananda | linggao: hi! we talked in HKG, but I think it was somewhat premature and no work has been done on firmware update | 19:48 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, right, hmm yeah that makes sense | 19:49 |
| devananda | linggao: we'll need support for that at some point within the utility agent that JayF and jroll are working on | 19:49 |
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| linggao | right sjing told me it depends on the utiliy ramdisk | 19:49 |
| devananda | linggao: and some common modeling in the REST and driver APIs so that firmware update is possible across many drivers | 19:49 |
| jroll | right | 19:49 |
| jroll | linggao: our team will be working on that soon, possibly before atlanta | 19:50 |
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| jroll | linggao: do you have a link to the blueprint? | 19:50 |
| devananda | also, for the folks working or interested in that utility ramdisk | 19:50 |
| linggao | jroll, I saw utility-ramdisk bp is already in code-review status | 19:50 |
| devananda | it's not tied to the ironic release cycle | 19:50 |
| devananda | IOW, it's not under feature freeze :) | 19:50 |
| jroll | ^ | 19:50 |
| jroll | linggao: it's in "code review" to become an openstack project | 19:51 |
| devananda | jroll: as soon as you guys can finish the clean up, let's get it into gerrit so others can start collaborating with you guys | 19:51 |
| jroll | linggao: we should have a demo and most basic features available by atlanta | 19:51 |
| devananda | jroll: not that you need any encouragement on taht front ;) | 19:51 |
| JayF | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79088/ we have it -1'd right now pending getting tests working happily | 19:51 |
| jroll | devananda: +1 | 19:51 |
| JayF | but once that is merged we'll be in openstack/gerrit | 19:51 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/79088/ | 19:52 |
| devananda | jroll: did I say that I'd set up the LP stuff for it? or have you guys? | 19:52 |
| linggao | jroll, that would be cool (demo) | 19:52 |
| jroll | devananda: as for the agent driver, my plan is to put up a patch for ironic to upstream it when juno opens | 19:52 |
| jroll | devananda: I'm not sure. JayF? | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: I recall hearing that | 19:52 |
| JayF | devananda: I think you said we'd use the ironic project? Although I'm not opposed to having the agent have it's own. | 19:52 |
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| JayF | In fact it might make sense to keep it separated, especially if it's not going to be part of FF | 19:53 |
| JayF | different review teams, etc | 19:53 |
| jroll | +1 | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: ++ | 19:53 |
| devananda | jroll: please put up a patch for the driver around the time that the agent repo is populated in gerrit | 19:53 |
| jroll | devananda: ok, we can do that | 19:53 |
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| linggao | jroll, here is the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/firmware-update | 19:53 |
| JayF | devananda: If that's the route we want to go, I'd ask either to point me at a document telling me how to setup LP for it, or just do it | 19:53 |
| devananda | jroll: i'll promptly -2 it, but i'd still like to have a reference in gerrit :) | 19:53 |
| jroll | devananda: yep :) | 19:53 |
| devananda | thanks :) | 19:53 |
| JayF | jroll: we'll be continuing work on the driver, probably in gh with upstreaming of the patches as they're written, while waiting for juno to open, right? | 19:54 |
| devananda | #action devananda to check with infra re: separate LP thing for the agent, and set it up if needed | 19:54 |
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| jroll | JayF: yes | 19:54 |
| linggao | jroll, are you saying your team will work on firmware update or I work on the update using the framework you team is working on? | 19:54 |
| jroll | JayF: we'll just be continually updating the gerrit review for our driver until ironic team is ready to look at it | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | at the tone there is 5 minutes left... beep | 19:55 |
| devananda | JayF: jroll: even one patch in gerrit with a link to GH would be enough to start -- just a reference point for now | 19:55 |
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| jroll | devananda: ok | 19:55 |
| JayF | linggao: It's absolutely on the list of things we want to do. I don't know if that means you should do it now or if we'll get to it first. :) | 19:55 |
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| jroll | linggao: if you'd like to work on it, go ahead. If you don't work on it, we will :) | 19:55 |
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| NobodyCam | I can see the firmware update being tricky | 19:56 |
| JayF | You're even welcome to submit a PR in via the github repo while we're waiting to get things fixed for it to merge over | 19:56 |
| JayF | #link http://github.com/rackerlabs/teeth-agent | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | ie if the otherboard only have windows based flashing tools | 19:56 |
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| NobodyCam | s/otherboard/motherboard/ | 19:57 |
| JayF | NobodyCam: honestly that hadn't even occurred to me. That could be rough. It'll help that we're doing plugable backends for hardware, so we might implement a sensible one for linux for the prototype, but leave room for folks who need that to implement it | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | JayF: ya that makes sense to me | 19:58 |
| linggao | right. I know how to do the firmware update for IBM hardware. Have to talk to folks on what is the general way to do it. | 19:58 |
| devananda | JayF: also the driver API for firmware updates will need to support other vendor's drivers which may do updates OOB | 19:58 |
| devananda | a summit session where folks sketch out how to do firmware udpates on different hardware might be good | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:59 |
| devananda | start getting a picture of where the abstraction points are | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | less then one minute | 19:59 |
| devananda | what a common API will look like | 19:59 |
| devananda | etc | 19:59 |
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| linggao | devananda, +1 | 19:59 |
| lucasagomes | indeed | 19:59 |
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| lucasagomes | we gotta start looking at promoting some methods in the vendor interface to core | 19:59 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ++ | 19:59 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: want to toss an email to the list with some ideas on that? | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: devananda thats a topic for summit track | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yeah | 20:00 |
| devananda | time's up :) | 20:00 |
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| devananda | thanks everyone! great meeting | 20:00 |
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| NobodyCam | thank you | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | I can send something to the list | 20:00 |
| ifarkas | thanks | 20:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 10 20:00:36 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-10-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-10-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-03-10-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
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| sarob_ | #startmeeting milk | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 10 20:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'milk' | 20:01 |
| sarob_ | Roll call | 20:01 |
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| sarob_ | Keyvan and MrJoshua | 20:03 |
| sarob_ | Ping! | 20:03 |
| MrJoshua | hey | 20:03 |
| sarob_ | Hey | 20:03 |
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| e-vad | pong | 20:03 |
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| MrJoshua | I guess the time moved, because of DST. | 20:03 |
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| sarob_ | Yeah, pain | 20:04 |
| MrJoshua | So I just updated the wiki and sit out the getting started mail this morning. | 20:04 |
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| sarob_ | All the Openstack mtgs are keyed off GMT | 20:04 |
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| sarob_ | I saw | 20:04 |
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| nati_ueno | hi! | 20:05 |
| sarob_ | Hey there | 20:05 |
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| MrJoshua | I'm in the thick of it with C4, but I'll try to get the updates to the project pushed to github today or tomorrow AM at the latest. | 20:05 |
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| sarob_ | That's good for me | 20:05 |
| sarob_ | #topic getting milk contributors ready | 20:06 |
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| MrJoshua | This includes apiary doc, Django project, and freshen requirements. | 20:06 |
| sarob_ | Sarob like | 20:06 |
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| MrJoshua | Any notes on the instructions I sent out? | 20:07 |
| sarob_ | I've been slammed | 20:07 |
| sarob_ | I'm going to review today | 20:07 |
| sarob_ | I assume we are targeting devs | 20:08 |
| sarob_ | So cut to the meat on contributing | 20:08 |
| MrJoshua | If anyone's here that hasn't gotten setup for contributing, please give the instructions a try and tell me if anything is wrong about them. | 20:08 |
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| sarob_ | moving on | 20:09 |
| MrJoshua | Yeah, I'm not sure how any non-devs could contribute here, but they can post ideas etc, to the mailing list. | 20:09 |
| MrJoshua | k | 20:09 |
| sarob_ | #action sarob review contributors instructions | 20:10 |
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| sarob_ | #action sarob add non Dev contrib | 20:10 |
| MrJoshua | ...and the wiki | 20:10 |
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| sarob_ | #topic code | 20:10 |
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| sarob_ | #action MrJoshua will patch req, apiary doc, django park code | 20:12 |
| sarob_ | Anything missed? | 20:12 |
| MrJoshua | As I integrated my template api with the registry stuff, I realized that it made sense to create a index of categories in the initial api. | 20:12 |
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| MrJoshua | The idea is we may have multiple version / alternate ideas and approaches | 20:13 |
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| sarob_ | Smart | 20:13 |
| MrJoshua | Well the fact is we already do. | 20:13 |
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| sarob_ | And will | 20:14 |
| MrJoshua | So if you go to the root url "/" it will give you a list of the different API interfaces with some version and description information. | 20:14 |
| MrJoshua | and the path to that interface | 20:14 |
| sarob_ | Nice | 20:14 |
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| MrJoshua | so for example "/registery/v4", "/experemental", "/bobs_version/" etc. | 20:15 |
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| MrJoshua | That gives us room to do lots of stuff without too much stepping on each other even in a deployment. | 20:16 |
| sarob_ | We could branch other sub projects | 20:16 |
| sarob_ | Before they create their own repos | 20:17 |
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| MrJoshua | Yeah, of course if something is worth while to follow in more detail, but this will allow us to move quickly and have multiple verations of the API operational on the same server at one. | 20:18 |
| MrJoshua | ... time | 20:18 |
| sarob_ | Sarob like | 20:18 |
| sarob_ | Anything else? | 20:18 |
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| MrJoshua | Anyway that's the only news/change on my end. | 20:19 |
| sarob_ | Moving on | 20:19 |
| sarob_ | #topic timing | 20:19 |
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| sarob_ | Soo april is looming | 20:19 |
| sarob_ | Do we continue with that as a deadline for something working | 20:20 |
| sarob_ | Or just present the collaboration so far at nab? | 20:20 |
| MrJoshua | Indeed. We should start taking a look at what is reasonably possible to finish by then. | 20:21 |
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| sarob_ | Is just keyvan | 20:21 |
| sarob_ | You and me | 20:21 |
| sarob_ | Enuf to say collaboration? | 20:22 |
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| sarob_ | It's something for sure | 20:22 |
| MrJoshua | We will have the basic client and server to do identification and look up services, but I'm not sure how 'exciting' that is. Perhaps just a slide show is better. | 20:22 |
| sarob_ | Demo is always exciting | 20:23 |
| sarob_ | But it's the collaboration | 20:23 |
| sarob_ | I'm interested in highlighting | 20:24 |
| sarob_ | To get more devs | 20:24 |
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| sarob_ | On projects plural | 20:24 |
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| MrJoshua | Do we actually have any collaboration that's noteworthy yet? haha | 20:24 |
| sarob_ | Well across all the projects | 20:25 |
| sarob_ | A lot of discussion | 20:25 |
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| sarob_ | I want to take what we have so far to another | 20:25 |
| sarob_ | SVP level meeting | 20:25 |
| sarob_ | And ask for Dev commitments | 20:26 |
| sarob_ | They joined etc to collaborate | 20:26 |
| MrJoshua | It'll no doubt help to have requirements test in place to provide clear marching orders. | 20:26 |
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| sarob_ | Like a FTE per studio | 20:26 |
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| sarob_ | But I think we need a bit if code and a platform to speak from | 20:27 |
| sarob_ | Spellcheck hmmm | 20:27 |
| MrJoshua | haha | 20:27 |
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| sarob_ | #info goal for spring 2014 and NAB is to get Dev commitment from studios | 20:28 |
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| sarob_ | There I said it out LOUD | 20:29 |
| MrJoshua | Haha, yeah boy. And not just the promise, but people actually showing up to meetings and committing revisions. | 20:29 |
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| sarob_ | I'm close to getting a few others to tag along | 20:29 |
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| sarob_ | I'm done soapboxing for now | 20:30 |
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| sarob_ | #topic any other business | 20:30 |
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| MrJoshua | Actually I have to go, and I can't think of anything else at the moment. | 20:31 |
| sarob_ | Anyone else? | 20:31 |
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| sarob_ | Then that is a wrap! | 20:31 |
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| sarob_ | Thx mrjoshua | 20:31 |
| sarob_ | #endmeeting | 20:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 10 20:31:59 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-03-10-20.01.html | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-03-10-20.01.txt | 20:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/milk/2014/milk.2014-03-10-20.01.log.html | 20:32 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| enikanorov | hi | 20:59 |
| beagles | hi | 20:59 |
| rkukura | hi | 20:59 |
| banix | hi | 20:59 |
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| nati_ueno | hi! | 21:00 |
| Swami | hi all | 21:00 |
| edhall | hi | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | armax, arosen, SumitNaiksatam, emagana, amotoki, nati_ueno, obondarev_, salv-orlando: hi | 21:00 |
| emagana | hi! | 21:01 |
| armax | yello | 21:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: hi | 21:01 |
| lukego | hoi | 21:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
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| marun | hi | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 10 21:02:07 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #info Icehouse-3 has been released | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron/neutron-2014.1.b3.tar.gz | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #info We had more requests for FFEs than we could accept | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | Making the cut was not easy, but working with the OpenStack release team we drew the line at items that were rated High or greater and/or were stuck in the merge queue when I-3 was tagged | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | Had the gate not backed up those items would have merged on time | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | #info Entering the stability, documentation, and testing phase | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | Now that the Icehouse release is almost feature complete we're entering the time where we need to turn our attention to making the release stable and fixing any lingering bugs | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | #info Only bugfixes and FFEs will be merged all new items will be deferred until Juno opens | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | The RC will be cut when all blueprints/bugs targeted for it are closed | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/icehouse-rc1 | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | We have 69 bugs targeted for RC1 which is bit high | 21:08 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: Do we have owners for all of them? | 21:09 |
| marun | hmm, ml2 migration not on the list? | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | marun: it's the first bp in RC1 | 21:09 |
| marun | this one appears to be missing an owner: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1244255 | 21:09 |
| * marun is blind | 21:10 | |
| markmcclain | yeah… since the report was marked as incomplete, I was waiting for more info before ensuring we have an owner for 1244255 | 21:10 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: any new bug will be consider for RC1 or not? | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | emagana: for now please target new bugs to RC1 | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | or for those that can't target, let me know and I'll add it to RC1 | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | starting next week we'll be more strict on which bugs we target to RC1 | 21:13 |
| emagana | markmcclain: great! | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | Let's move onto bugs | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress RC1 Critical Bugs | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1112912 | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: what is the status of this? | 21:14 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: this is broked by enable_securiy_config option | 21:14 |
| nati_ueno | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67281/22 | 21:15 |
| nati_ueno | We are in the discussion of ini file design | 21:15 |
| nati_ueno | for 67281 | 21:15 |
| armax | arosen: can you have a look at the review? | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: ok… when patchset 23 is posted you add related to the commit message? | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1280464 | 21:16 |
| nati_ueno | patch set for 23 for which? | 21:17 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: Ah I got it. | 21:17 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: sure I will | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | looks like jlibosva is now offline | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | I'll follow up with tomorrow on the status of 1280464 | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1288427 | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | I've got a fix ready to push that will mitigate this issue | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | our last 3 bugs are the ones we have been carrying for months | 21:18 |
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| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1265495 | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1253896 | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1230407 | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Both me, salv-orlando, and others have been looking into them | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | 1230407 is even more vague than 1253896 | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | agreed | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | all 3 can be triggered by any number of things | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | but I'd say it reming us of deadlocks and lock wait timeouts | 21:20 |
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| salv-orlando | We have that bp from arosen, which in theory should nullify 1253896 | 21:20 |
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| markmcclain | right | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | basically because it removes any chance that a VM can boot without network | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/nova-event-callback,n,z | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | still, we might end up having a lot of "boot timeout" issues ;) | 21:21 |
| marun | boot can still fail, but failure will be detected early | 21:21 |
| marun | and more importantly - tracked. so we can prioritize our optimization efforts. | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | ++ | 21:21 |
| marun | i'm hoping we can squeeze in dhcp validation too, via a dhcping-like mechanism. | 21:22 |
| marun | but that maybe doesn't have to go into the rc. we can always backport. | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | nova-event-callback is also telling that the dream of compute independent of networking was probably a chimera, but this is another story. | 21:22 |
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| marun | chimera == bs ? ;) | 21:23 |
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| markmcclain | I think we all learned that coordination is necessary | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | marun: something you hoped was true but in the end was just a dream in your head… pretty much. So yes maybe bs is a good definition | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | marun: agreed… I'm thinking backport is probably what we're looking at for that fix | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | Any other critical bugs the team should be tracking? | 21:24 |
| marun | markmcclain: but the primary fix has to make it in, right? since nova is planning on waiting for notifications this cycle? | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | marun: arosen's fix yes | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | sorry wasn't clear the backport was for dhcp-ping | 21:25 |
| marun | ok | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:26 |
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| emagana | hi there! | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:26 |
| emagana | just updated the wiki to make it short | 21:26 |
| emagana | we may need some redhat experts because the folks helping on the installation guide are having problems with red hat, ubuntu went fine | 21:27 |
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| emagana | any volunteers? | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | marun: can you help connect the right folks? | 21:28 |
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| marun | emagana: Let's coordinate after to make it happen. | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | marun: thank you | 21:28 |
| emagana | as I have been mentioning, there are a mayor refactor work on the installation guide ad the neutron part is one of the most important, we want to have it right! | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=neutron | 21:29 |
| emagana | marun: thanks! I will give your name to the folks working on this. | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | Looks like we have a lot of bugs open | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | and not a lot in-progress | 21:29 |
| emagana | indeed, some of them become obsolete | 21:29 |
| emagana | we need to do a deep clean up work on the bugs | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | Is that something you can tackle this week? or do you need assistance? | 21:30 |
| emagana | I can complete it by Wednesday and have you or anyone else to double check before the end of week | 21:30 |
| banix | emagana: For new plugins, can you point me to where I can find out what I need to do | 21:31 |
| emagana | banix: sure, please ping me on the mailing list | 21:31 |
| banix | emagana: will do; thanks. | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | emagana: perfect ping me and/or channel when we're ready for a 2nd set of eyes | 21:31 |
| emagana | marun: sounds good! | 21:32 |
| emagana | upps.. I mean markmcclain | 21:32 |
| emagana | :-) | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | Anything else for docs? | 21:32 |
| emagana | we are good! | 21:33 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: thanks for updating | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:33 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: hi | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | now that we're done frantically get code merged into Icehouse | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | We have been seeing continue merging | 21:34 |
| mlavalle | of api tests | 21:34 |
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| mlavalle | over the past 2 weeks or so, we have merged 9 | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | seems like we could help by getting some more eyes from the neutron team on the tempest patches | 21:34 |
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| mlavalle | I just sent a message to the ML with a list of 6 that only need one more +2 to merge | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | cool.. I was looking at the bigger set of patches where we there's not a +1 from someone on the Neutron side | 21:35 |
| mlavalle | that's good…. I will send a list to neutron debs with code that needs review | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:36 |
| mlavalle | I am also contacting 5 authors who have abandoned patches | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | thanks for doing that | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | I will thank them for their effort, ask if they still have bandwidth and if the answer is no, reassign the tests to someone else | 21:37 |
| Sukhdev | I have sent several requests for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/66921/ | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | but all in all, good progress so far | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:37 |
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| mlavalle | Sukhdev: I will give visibility to your patch set during next Tempest meeting | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | do you know what our current pass rate is for the full job? | 21:38 |
| Sukhdev | mlavalle: Thanks | 21:38 |
| mlavalle | I haven't been paying attention to that, but I can do it this week | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | great would nice to activate the full job permanently if we're within an acceptable passing range | 21:39 |
| mlavalle | will do | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | Any other items you wanted to discuss? | 21:39 |
| mlavalle | that's it, thanks | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for the update | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | #topic L3 | 21:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | hi | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: hi | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Neutron-L3-Subteam | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Discussed l3-high-availability, neutron-ovs-dvr, and dynamic-routing in the meeting | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Information about reviewing and testing l3-high-availability added to the sub team page. | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Bring discussion for new L3 work for Juno to the meeting Thursday at 1500 UTC. | 21:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | I don’t know if this fits strictly under this subteam but it affects L3 agent ... | 21:41 |
| carl_baldwin | I started an etherpad about performance problems in L3 and other agents due to execution wrapper overhead. I think we should make some progress on this before Icehouse releases. | 21:41 |
| carl_baldwin | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-agent-exec-performance | 21:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | That is all I wanted to highlight. | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | yeah I think that making more efficient use of the calls executed within the wrappers is smart | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | and is something that makes the final release more stable | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | carl_baldwin: thanks for the update | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:43 |
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| carl_baldwin | markmcclain: Agreed | 21:44 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal is traveling today | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | I wanted to call attention to some of the FFE IPv6 reviews | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/74156/ | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/70649 | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:45 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: hi | 21:45 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | mestery is on PTO this week | 21:46 |
| rkukura | a few bug fixes are in the works, but no FFEs except the migration tool | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | do we need another core to help review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76533/ | 21:46 |
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| rkukura | that's the one - need core reviews on that | 21:46 |
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| marun | markmcclain: the script should work for both lb and ovs now. | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | awesome | 21:47 |
| marun | markmcclain: want to talk to you about how to check that db target is icehouse | 21:47 |
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| marun | markmcclain: we can do that offline | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | armax: would you mind being the other core on the migration review? | 21:48 |
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| armax | I'll allocate a few cycles the next couple of days | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | armax: thank you | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: any other bug fixes the team should pay attention to? | 21:49 |
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| rkukura | I'm working on the DB transaction fix, which will probably come in 2 parts for easy review | 21:50 |
| rkukura | hope to have 1st today, 2nd tomorrow | 21:50 |
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| markmcclain | perfect | 21:50 |
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| rkukura | the combination, plus one that merged, fixes at least 2 bugs | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | good to know | 21:51 |
| rkukura | What's the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1227336 | 21:51 |
| banix | no recent reviews | 21:52 |
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| rkukura | I'll review that one, and we need another core | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | I've looked at it a couple of times, so I'll take another look | 21:52 |
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| rkukura | I think that's about it | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: thanks for the update | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | #topic General Discussion | 21:53 |
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| markmcclain | I know many on the services side were frustrated with the process merging code for Icehouse. | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | One of the things I've been thinking about recently is how we can alter the process to make it work better | 21:55 |
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| markmcclain | If you've got ideas feel free to PM, email me. | 21:55 |
| lukego | I'm aiming to have the CI up and running for the tail-f driver early this week, FWIW, based on Jay's fine walkthrough. | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | lukego: great… thanks for letting me know | 21:56 |
| mandeep | markmcclain: Is the process for API review clearly documented somewhere? | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | mandeep: It has been an informal process up until now | 21:57 |
| mandeep | markmcclain: (that came up in FWaaS review, and Salvatore was needed to be pulled in last minute) | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | For Juno, we will clarify and publish how that process should work | 21:57 |
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| mandeep | markmcclain: It would be helpful if that was clearly communicated on the wiki, it would help reduce some of that last minute frustraction | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | mandeep: I agree 100% | 21:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we plan to have the "advance services common requirements" IRC meeting this week on Thursday 18.00 UTC (hope to discuss flavors among other things) | 21:58 |
| mandeep | markmcclain: Thanks! | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | there are several items that the team has done informally over time that we need to publish to a wiki | 21:58 |
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| pcm_ | SumitNaiksatam: I had some discussion on ML about vendor plugins for L3 services | 21:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: sure we can add that to the agenda | 21:59 |
| pcm_ | Didn't know if we want to discuss then, or if I should setup a separate IRC? | 21:59 |
| pcm_ | cool | 22:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: it was originally on the agenda as well | 22:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | until we took a break from the meetings | 22:00 |
| pcm_ | SumitNaiksatam: Sound good. | 22:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: but of course if its a longer discussion you can schedule separate meetings | 22:00 |
| pcm_ | SumitNaiksatam: we can see how it goes, and if more discussion is needed do a separate mtg. | 22:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: in this meeting we want to get all the advanced services participants together at the least | 22:01 |
| pcm_ | roger that | 22:01 |
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| markmcclain | ok we're at time for this week. I really want to thank everyone for the long hours they put in last week to get code reviewed, revised, and reviewed again for Icehouse-3 | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | Talk to everyone on the ML and IRC. Have a good week. | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:02 |
| banix | Thank you! | 22:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 10 22:02:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-10-21.02.html | 22:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-10-21.02.txt | 22:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-03-10-21.02.log.html | 22:02 |
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| rkukura | thanks markmcclain! | 22:03 |
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| mandeep | markmcclain: Thanks. | 22:03 |
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