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| rakhmerov | hi | 15:59 |
| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 20 16:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | Let's start? | 16:01 |
| gokrokve | Hi. | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | morning ) | 16:02 |
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| stanlagun | Hi | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review AIs | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | so last we had several AIs | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | 1. proceed with option #3 in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | we're currently implementing it | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | additionally, we've added a complete DSL example at the end of this document | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | I was planning to discuss it today too | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | I think it contains some bugs now, I'll fix them today. But generally, this is the scenario that we will be targeting for | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | we need to make it work | 16:04 |
| nmakhotkin | Hi | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | hey | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | the second AI: | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | 2. create new repo "mistral-extra" to move demo applications into it | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | it's almost done. We had a couple of technical issues with the new repo but it's fine now. | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67860/ | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | and btw, this repo was approved very quickly, I guess within a week | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | which is good | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | 3. proceed with names "OnSuccess" and "OnError" for task sections to describe what to do in case of success and failure | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | that's what we're doing now | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | but there's a suggestion to use "on-success" and "on-error" to distinguish better between task names and keywords | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | if you also take a look at Complete DSL we've added "on-finish" which means "do it in any case no matter if it's a success or a failure" | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | any questions/comments on that? | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | alright | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | no questions | 16:11 |
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| tnurlygayanov | and it will possible to add something like 'on-exception', 'on-stop' and etc? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | well, yes, but I guess "on-exception" is the same as "on-error" now | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | or you mean something different? | 16:12 |
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| nmakhotkin | Another question how to find that it is 'on-exception', not failure? | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | as a general comment, we should try to keep DSL simple, we've already gone far beyond our initial requirements ) | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | not failure? | 16:14 |
| tnurlygayanov | 'on-exception' - rollback to avoid 'partial finished' tasks | 16:14 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, I mean I'm just trying to understand if "on-error" and "on-exception" are different things in your understanding | 16:15 |
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| nmakhotkin | I think they are the same | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:16 |
| nmakhotkin | Timur? | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | from my standpoint, I think it would make sense to call it "on-exception" if we had information about exception type so that we could handle different exceptions differently | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | for now we just called it "on-error" meaning no matter what happened, something went wrong | 16:18 |
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| nmakhotkin | Yes, I agree | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | although, it may be a philosophical thing ) | 16:18 |
| tnurlygayanov | 'on-exception' for internal exception ) | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | nmakhotkin, so could explain again your question "how to find that it is 'on-exception', not failure?" | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | not sure I got it | 16:19 |
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| stanlagun | exception is when you cannot reach the service. error is when service says so (like 404 error code). Not sure we need to distinguish errors and exceptions for now | 16:21 |
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| nmakhotkin | I mean a task state, how we can know whether we receive exception state or failure state? | 16:21 |
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| nmakhotkin | Hmm, ok | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | stanlagun, agree with you | 16:22 |
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| stanlagun | I suggest having jous one OnError and later provide additional data on what type of error it is. It may be more then those 2 types of errors for some actions | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | so let's spend some time for discussing DSL example | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Discuss Complete DSL example (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc) | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss Complete DSL example (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-poc) (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:25 | |
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| rakhmerov | currently it contains error, not everywhere it's a valid YAML ) | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | which is my fault, I'll fix that today | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | additionally, stanlagun suggested some changes for wait conditions | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | in red | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | I tend to agree with them | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | my initial suggestion was: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | waitForIp: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | action: std:wait | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | parameters: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | delay: 3000 | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | max: 5 | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | on-success: checkIP | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | on-error: sendCreateVMError | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | and his: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | waitForIp: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | action: std:repeat | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | task: doSleep | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | I think the second option is better since it splits responsibilities better | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | if you guys have any other questions on that DSL let's talk about it | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | no better time but the present :) | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | one thing that bothers me is preparing an image with a python program starting automatically on it when an instance runs | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, I think you're the best person to talk about it to | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | do you think it will be easy to do for our demo scenario? | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | how much time may we need for that? | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | Timur, you here? | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, any other concerns on what we've come up with? | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | yes | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ) | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | hm | 16:38 |
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| tnurlygayanov | ok, I think we can do this for demo | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | yes, so we'll just need to create an image (say ubuntu) with a python web application on it that must run automatically | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | perfect | 16:39 |
| tnurlygayanov | we can do this with Murano or Heat ) | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | how would you estimate the efforts required for that? | 16:39 |
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| tnurlygayanov | with Murano it is 5 minutes ) | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | excluding the app itself | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | :)))) | 16:40 |
| tnurlygayanov | so, you want just Ubuntu with Web Server as a result? | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's even better that I thought | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | I thought it would be the whole 10 minutes ) | 16:41 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok, we have the Apache Linux Server in Murano and it is already ready to deploy. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | kidding | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok, that's good, so looks like it's not really a problem | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok, guys, any other questions/concerns? | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | please take a look again at this complete example when you have time. We need to make it shine and use as a target scenario for PoC | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current PoC status | 16:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current PoC status (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:43 | |
| rakhmerov | So, I'll be quick on that one | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | we're currently working on the new requirements, finished serious refactoring in our engines (local and scalable) | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | so in my understanding we'll be able to finish it not earlier than in 1.5-2 weeks | 16:44 |
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| rakhmerov | besides, we now have repos for python-mistralclient and mistral-extra where we will keep our demos and additional tools | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | #top Open discussion | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open discussion | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | btw, I'd like to capture 2 action items | 16:46 |
| tnurlygayanov | I suggest to discuss demo scenario ) | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | #action, nmakhotkin, write a simple demo web application that should be deployed on an instance that Mistral will run | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | sure | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | sec | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | #action tnurlygayanov, prepare an image with simple demo web app preinstalled on it | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ok, go ahead | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | what would you like to discuss? | 16:48 |
| tnurlygayanov | what will mistral do with Web Server? Do we plan to deploy or perform backup? | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | I was thinking about something like backup first | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | but honestly, I just didn't come up with something interesting that would demonstrate our new DSL capabilities | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | even though we could do something with backups | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | so | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | instead, I'm now suggesting the following scenario | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | 1. create a VM | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | 2. wait till it's really created | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | 3. run a job on the VM | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | which will be just sending HTTP request to a python program installed on the VM (what I called web application earlier) | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | 4. merge results into execution context | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | 5. destroy the VM | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | and that should happen periodically | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | so this scenario will demonstrate all we want | 16:53 |
| tnurlygayanov | is it requred to have the python-based web server? | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | well, in general no | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | we just need to have a REST endpoint on the VM that does something | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | from Mistral perspective | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | it could be implemented either with python or in a different way somehow | 16:54 |
| tnurlygayanov | do we plan use Nova API for manage VMs? | 16:54 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, we do | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | there will be two request to Nova | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | createVM and destroyVM | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, even three | 16:55 |
| tnurlygayanov | and one more question: how we will detect that VM is ready for step3 ? | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | also getVMdetails (in order to check IP address) | 16:55 |
| tnurlygayanov | yes ) | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | just answered :) | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | any concerns on that? | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | in my understanding that should work, but maybe I'm misssing something | 16:56 |
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| tnurlygayanov | just answered :) - we will just send requests for Web server and wait valid response? ) | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | ok, there two parts | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | first, we need to wait till VM is up | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | for that we'll be sending requests to Nova periodically | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | with some delay up to say 5 times | 16:58 |
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| rakhmerov | and the second part is we'll send a request to do some useful job on that VM | 16:58 |
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| tnurlygayanov | so, probably some timeout will be more usefull that 'times count' | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | and that's why we need this web app | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | ok, guys, I think we need to wrap up | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | let's continue offline or next time | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | bye | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting Mistral | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 20 16:59:34 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-20-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-20-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-01-20-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 20 19:00:02 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
| romcheg | o/ | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | who here for the meeting | 19:00 |
| agordeev2 | o/ | 19:00 |
| devananda | \o | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | who's even | 19:00 |
| max_lobur | o/ | 19:00 |
| ifarkas | \o | 19:00 |
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| GheRivero | o/ | 19:00 |
| rloo | me | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:00 |
| yuriyz | + | 19:00 |
| k4n0 | o/ | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, and announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| NobodyCam | welcome all | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | ok let start with a quick announcement | 19:01 |
| haomeng2 | wel | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: sent a really good email to the list yesterdat | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024823.html | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-January/024823.html | 19:02 |
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| NobodyCam | def worth the read | 19:02 |
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| k4n0 | NobodyCam: thanks for the link | 19:02 |
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| haomeng2 | got it | 19:03 |
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| NobodyCam | its a holiday here so I may be a bit slow | 19:03 |
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| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:03 |
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| max_lobur | hehe | 19:04 |
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| NobodyCam | lets jump into | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Outstanding, in-progress or Action Item updates | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outstanding, in-progress or Action Item updates (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:04 | |
| NobodyCam | Icehouse release progress // graduation? | 19:04 |
| haomeng2 | :) | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | this is the week | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | we are so close! | 19:04 |
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| devananda | yep | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | dkehn: are you around? | 19:05 |
| rloo | what do you mean, this is the week? | 19:05 |
| devananda | so i'm going to be working with ttx this week to get the i2 release tested and tagged | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | nice | 19:05 |
| devananda | s/release/milestone | 19:05 |
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| rloo | so if we don't make i2, we won't graduate? | 19:05 |
| dkehn | NobodyCam: just got here | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:06 |
| devananda | rloo: not exactly | 19:06 |
| devananda | rloo: this is a checkpoint of sorts | 19:06 |
| dkehn | NobodyCam: eating lunch | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:06 |
| rloo | devananda: ok. (phew). | 19:06 |
| devananda | the TC evaluates our progress as a project towards becoming part of the release process here | 19:06 |
| romcheg | Guys, I have a few questions about migrations from Nova | 19:07 |
| romcheg | This is the thing we also need to have as soon as possible | 19:07 |
| devananda | so it's more about me working with them to get the milestone tagged, tested, etc. | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg: that would be nice to have... but is not required as I understand it | 19:08 |
| devananda | we are so close to having deploy() working, though, and I was hoping we'd have it done this week | 19:08 |
| romcheg | Ah, cool then | 19:08 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, I thought it was required | 19:08 |
| romcheg | but I still have the questions :) | 19:08 |
| devananda | migration from nova is required, but not this week | 19:08 |
| devananda | we need that by icehouse release | 19:09 |
| * NobodyCam notes holiday status and use of the word understanding | 19:09 | |
| NobodyCam | but not the mile stone | 19:09 |
| devananda | correct | 19:09 |
| devananda | by april something | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, do you have a checklist points of what is missing for deploy(). Neutron integration? | 19:09 |
| rloo | so what is needed, if anything for icehouse-2 this week? (ie, what do you need if anything, from us, todo?) | 19:10 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: not off hand, no. i'm still recovering my test env after LCA | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | I've tested the deployment with some variables off (neutron and nova), and at least the ironic part seems to be stable | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: the main is setting the dhcp options for pxe boot | 19:10 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: with what's in trunk, or with patches taht are in flight? | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | which has to come from the conductor incharge | 19:10 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, with the patches | 19:11 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ok. so lett's land those | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | but none of them are big patches | 19:11 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: can you (after the meeting) call those out to me specificaly? | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | for those interested, there's a guideline I wrote (and has being improved by others) | 19:11 |
| devananda | i'll prioritize reviewing/fixing/landing that stuff today | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicDeployDevstack | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, sure | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, yea, I hear ya, I didn't test the dhcp part integrated with neutron yet | 19:12 |
| NobodyCam | ok to bring the meeting back under control | 19:12 |
| NobodyCam | do we want to go over the bp/ bugs? | 19:13 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: that really about it. | 19:13 |
| devananda | let's see what's targeted to i2 | 19:13 |
| devananda | and either close it or bump it | 19:13 |
| devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-2 | 19:13 |
| devananda | BP's first | 19:14 |
| devananda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/pxe-mount-and-dd | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | I have thought about a hack that would allow supporting a single conductor, but its not the right way | 19:14 |
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| devananda | we know this works now, so we can close it, yes? | 19:14 |
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| GheRivero | yes | 19:14 |
| GheRivero | it was more an historic bp | 19:14 |
| lucasagomes | +1 | 19:14 |
| devananda | agreed | 19:14 |
| devananda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/add-neutron-support | 19:14 |
| devananda | this one is still stuck. let's move it to i3 | 19:15 |
| devananda | yes? | 19:15 |
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| GheRivero | +1 | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | we kinda have too | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | makes sense to me | 19:15 |
| devananda | k | 19:15 |
| devananda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/instance-mapping-by-consistent-hash | 19:15 |
| devananda | what about that one? | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | we have almost pretty much everything for this one in place already right? | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | most of it has landed no? | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | list of conductors, routing the rpc calls | 19:16 |
| devananda | yep | 19:16 |
| devananda | rebalance / takeover hasn't landed yet | 19:16 |
| devananda | but i can do that separeately | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | core function are there | 19:17 |
| max_lobur | +1 | 19:17 |
| rloo | there's something about update mapping in neutron? | 19:17 |
| devananda | yea, that's aprt of the takeover | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, takeover? | 19:17 |
| devananda | and depends on the neutron work in teh prior BP | 19:17 |
| devananda | i should add that as a dependency | 19:17 |
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| devananda | well | 19:17 |
| devananda | #action deva to file a new bp for takeover, including the neutron update part, and remove this from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/instance-mapping-by-consistent-hash | 19:18 |
| NobodyCam | we will need a initial way of setting it for the options for neutron | 19:18 |
| devananda | lastly | 19:18 |
| devananda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/serial-console-access | 19:18 |
| devananda | sjing has posted code for this but i dont know if anyone of us have tested | 19:18 |
| devananda | (i haven't) | 19:18 |
| * NobodyCam has not :( | 19:18 | |
| * GheRivero not me | 19:19 | |
| lucasagomes | me neither | 19:19 |
| devananda | ok, i'll bump | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | to i-3? | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | it needs ipmi to test it | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | #action nobodycam to test serial-console | 19:19 |
| haomeng2 | devananda: it is in code review status. need more comments | 19:20 |
| devananda | yes | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | we can do it ipmi native | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | for us to say we have it will we NEED it in ipmitool? | 19:20 |
| devananda | there are many open bugs targeted to i2 | 19:20 |
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| devananda | anyone blocked on anything in particular there? | 19:22 |
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| max_lobur | me | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | deva can we bump anything below high ? | 19:22 |
| rloo | (reviewers) | 19:22 |
| max_lobur | I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1244747 | 19:22 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: we can bump anything we need to, but i'd rather get them fixed :) | 19:23 |
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| devananda | max_lobur: it looks like lucasagomes referenced a bug in pecan/wsme as a possible cause | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: smack /me upside the head when that is the case | 19:24 |
| max_lobur | deva | 19:24 |
| max_lobur | that's a separate bug | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | actually, there's two different approach | 19:24 |
| max_lobur | just another way to implement the hook | 19:24 |
| rloo | NobodyCam. Sure, a virtual smack? :-) | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | max_lobur, approach doesn't need wsme to be fixed | 19:24 |
| max_lobur | devananda, lucasagomes yes, we're able to fix on current wsme already | 19:25 |
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| max_lobur | I mean it's already seems fixed to me ;) | 19:25 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: this seems kinda big-ish | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1187209 | 19:26 |
| devananda | sorry guys, gotta step away for 2 mintues. brb | 19:27 |
| * NobodyCam turns on the wheel-of-fourtune music | 19:28 | |
| lucasagomes | so mostly of the bugs seems to be marked as in-progress | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | bugs for i2 | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | I think we'doing good on them | 19:28 |
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| max_lobur | NobodyCam, stevedore bug doesn't seems hard to fix | 19:29 |
| max_lobur | also it's low priority | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | max_lobur: ya after re-rereading it I was just about to say that | 19:29 |
| max_lobur | hehe :) | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | shall we move on to the call outs | 19:30 |
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| NobodyCam | #Topic Callouts | 19:30 |
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| devananda | back | 19:30 |
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| NobodyCam | WB | 19:30 |
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| NobodyCam | nova driver while still lacking any real tests can deploy a nova | 19:31 |
| devananda | woot! good job! | 19:32 |
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| NobodyCam | it is current stuck at deploy as the node never attempts to pxe boot | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | its just that the pxe options are not set. (for neutron) | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | does that gets fixed after passing the dhcp options to neutron | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | via pxe driver? | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | ok that asnwer | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | yes | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | good stuff NobodyCam :D | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic testing | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | romcheg: devananda any thing to say on testing? | 19:34 |
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| romcheg | NobodyCam: agordeev2 is working on basic infrastructure for intergation testing | 19:34 |
| romcheg | agordeev2: are you around? | 19:34 |
| agordeev2 | yep, i'm here | 19:34 |
| NobodyCam | Hey agordeev2 :) welcome | 19:35 |
| * lucasagomes brb | 19:35 | |
| romcheg | AFAIR there were several questions about how to perform initial configuration | 19:35 |
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| devananda | waiting for this to land | 19:35 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65845/ | 19:35 |
| agordeev2 | on last thirsday i'd visited QA meeing just to highlight testing scheme and get more attention to it. | 19:35 |
| devananda | which will move tempest API tests from the experimental pipeline into check & gate | 19:36 |
| romcheg | But I don't think that creating VMs in tempest is a good idea because it's unlikely to be accepted | 19:36 |
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| devananda | romcheg: our discussion on the ML seemed to settle on that being the right approach | 19:36 |
| agordeev2 | agreed | 19:36 |
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| devananda | romcheg, agordeev2 - what do you suggest intead of creating the VMs via tempest? | 19:37 |
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| romcheg | I would do that in devstack. | 19:37 |
| devananda | ok. that was my initial suggestion :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | create the VMs and the bridge in devstack as part of the bring-up | 19:38 |
| devananda | dump the MACs to a text file | 19:38 |
| romcheg | Or even in nodepool. That might be more efficient but then regular users will have to create vms by hands | 19:38 |
| devananda | then we can do the enrol/deploy/undeploy/delete in the tempest tests | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | back | 19:39 |
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| devananda | not nodepool | 19:39 |
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| romcheg | The good thing in nodepool AFAIK is that it can pre-create test nodes. So that might reduce the time required for running a job | 19:39 |
| devananda | we should be able to run these tests with tempest + devstack. it shouldn't need more infrastructure | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: agreeded :) | 19:40 |
| romcheg | I vote for devstack as well | 19:40 |
| romcheg | I just had to mention that thing about nodepool :) | 19:40 |
| max_lobur | :) | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:40 |
| devananda | devstack making some quick calls to libvirt to create NN vm's shouldn't take taht long | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | ok anything else on testing | 19:40 |
| devananda | it's not installing anything | 19:41 |
| devananda | just making blank VMs | 19:41 |
| devananda | on testing, just to mention again my email about third-party testing | 19:41 |
| devananda | but if anyone has comments, please discuss on the ML, not here today | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:41 |
| romcheg | No more news from me | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | ok :) | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | what to move to | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | agenda says: | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Food for Thought / Open Discussion | 19:42 |
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| k4n01 | I wanted to update you guys on SeaMicro driver status | 19:43 |
| romcheg | Guys, I have a few questions on migrating from Nova | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | shot | 19:43 |
| devananda | k4n01: great! please do | 19:43 |
| max_lobur | I'd like to discuss a race bug today | 19:43 |
| max_lobur | but since it may be long | 19:43 |
| max_lobur | we may proceed on our chart | 19:43 |
| max_lobur | -chat | 19:43 |
| romcheg | So I wrote a script that converts nova's db into Ironic db | 19:43 |
| k4n01 | We have finished coding for the Power and VendorPassThru blueprints, we doing internal reviews and will be ready for community before end of this week | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | max_lobur: if thats ok we can do in channel after meeting? | 19:44 |
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| devananda | max_lobur: you're referring to the need for an intent lock between API cals, yes? yea, let's do in channel. i'll be around for a while | 19:44 |
| romcheg | However Ironic's DB will change in the future | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | k4n01: awesome | 19:44 |
| lucasagomes | max_lobur, I remember devananda raised some q about python threads (os threads) and green threads | 19:44 |
| lucasagomes | have you looked into it? | 19:44 |
| k4n01 | devananda: did you see my update to SeaMicro VendorPassthru blueprint? | 19:44 |
| devananda | k4n01: no. lemme take a look now | 19:44 |
| romcheg | So I think whether it's reasonable to use existing migrations somehow? | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | k4n01: please take look at devananda's email to the list | 19:45 |
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| devananda | romcheg: i can think of two solutions | 19:45 |
| k4n01 | NobodyCam: Yes, already read it, i agree with those 5 points in email, and I will come up with SeaMicro's plan to implement them till next time we have meeting | 19:45 |
| max_lobur | devananda, lucasagomes, NobodyCam yes, lets discuss in ironic chat. I have an answer to green threads question. I'm armed and dangerous :) | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | :D | 19:45 |
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| NobodyCam | k4n01: :) Ty | 19:46 |
| devananda | romcheg: 1. we keep the novadb->ironicdb migration review open and maintain it until icehouse-3 milestone, at which point feature freeze should prevent (most) db changes after taht | 19:46 |
| devananda | romcheg: and we land it at that point | 19:46 |
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| devananda | romcheg: or, 2) we land it now, and maintain it via additional small patches until icehouse release | 19:46 |
| romcheg | If someone wants to migrate after i3? | 19:46 |
| romcheg | We might want to change the DB in future releases | 19:47 |
| devananda | romcheg: we'll need the migration script to be applicable on the icehouse release itself | 19:47 |
| devananda | romcheg: not after taht | 19:47 |
| romcheg | makes sense | 19:47 |
| devananda | noav-bm will be marked deprecated if ironic graduates this cycle | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:47 |
| devananda | so no new changes to nova_bm schema will be allowed | 19:48 |
| devananda | after taht | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | after then uses should uising Ironic | 19:48 |
| devananda | and migration path can be defined as Icehouse Noav_bm -> Icehouse Ironic -> "J" Ironic -> "K" Ironic ... etc | 19:48 |
| romcheg | Sounds like a dictatorship but I like it :) | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | users | 19:48 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:49 |
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| devananda | k4n01: i dont see a reply on either BP | 19:49 |
| romcheg | The second question was how should be store this utility, but now I understand that it should be the part of Ironic distribution, shouldn't it?? | 19:49 |
| devananda | romcheg: yes, part of ironic | 19:49 |
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| devananda | romcheg: something like our ironic-dbsync utility. | 19:49 |
| devananda | romcheg: eg, ironic-import-db-from-nova, or something | 19:49 |
| k4n01 | devananda: i have updated the main description of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/seamicro-vendor-passthru-interface-implementation | 19:49 |
| romcheg | yes, makes sense | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | in https://github.com/openstack/ironic/tree/master/tools | 19:50 |
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| k4n01 | devananda: I am not sure if that triggers an update mail to people involved , sorry | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | and what people thinks about: dict-like behavior on the ironic objects should be removed or stay? (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64336) | 19:50 |
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| romcheg | Should that be one single migrate_from_nova script or a series of scripts? | 19:50 |
| devananda | k4n01: ah! i see now, thanks. I will review the more detailed BP after meeting | 19:50 |
| rloo | it seems to me that from user's point of view, icehouse nova_bm->icehouse ironic, icehouse nova_bm->J ironic, etc would make more sense. | 19:50 |
| devananda | #action devananda to review https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/seamicro-vendor-passthru-interface-implementation | 19:50 |
| k4n01 | devananda: ok, i will hang around #openstack-ironic | 19:50 |
| romcheg | like migrate_nova_db build_nova_tftproots | 19:50 |
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| max_lobur | lucasagomes, I'd vote for removing dict like behavior | 19:51 |
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| devananda | rloo: in my past discussions with the TC and other PTLs, taht didnt' seem necessary. take cinder and neutron as examples. they didn't skip releases like that | 19:51 |
| max_lobur | I don't see any profit on it | 19:51 |
| rloo | devananda: ok, if there's a precedence, that's fine. | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg: I like the chain of scripts (with a wrapper to make it easy to use ofc) | 19:51 |
| max_lobur | (dict like behavior) | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | right, yea I kinda like the idea of having only one consistent way to access the the objects attributes, so I would remove the dict behavior as well | 19:52 |
| devananda | rloo: but if, during the J release, someone wants to add a "migrate from icehouse nova to J ironic" script, and that is even possible given how different our arch might be by then.... i dont think there'll be a problem with it | 19:52 |
| GheRivero | i would remove dict behaviour too | 19:52 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i'm fine with removing dict usage of objects | 19:52 |
| max_lobur | great | 19:52 |
| rloo | wrt remove dict behaviour, i think that makes sense, but the review only removes the [] part of dict like behaviour. | 19:52 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: however that object code in noa stil lhas it | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea, I commented that on patch one | 19:53 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: and when it moves to oslo (which I think is in progress???) it will still be there, too, i believe | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | I don't think we should diverge from nova | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | I would go along as well :-p | 19:53 |
| max_lobur | rloo and what else? | 19:53 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so we can't actualy REMOVE that support fromour code. we can jsut -1 any patch that tries to use it | 19:53 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, right, so shouldnot remove it from the base object code | 19:53 |
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| devananda | right | 19:53 |
| rloo | max_lobur. there are a bunch of methods that support dict-like behaviour, not just the setitem/getitem stuff I think. | 19:54 |
| max_lobur | I see | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, cool, right that looks reasonable for me | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | I will review that series of patches as well | 19:54 |
| NobodyCam | so maybe a blueprint with whats required ? | 19:54 |
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| NobodyCam | (to remove dict_*) | 19:55 |
| devananda | also, removing dict-like object access is pretty low on my priority list | 19:55 |
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| max_lobur | so we'll just remove usages right? | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea, just brought it up beucase it's on the meeting calendar | 19:55 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: ah. thanks | 19:55 |
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| max_lobur | we can also have an intermediate parent class between oslo's object and our, which will throw exception in dict methods | 19:55 |
| max_lobur | to be sure we're not using them | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | if lucasagomes is looking at the actual agenda | 19:56 |
| rloo | seems like a lot of work to do for ... ?? | 19:56 |
| max_lobur | or it will be to much? :) | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | can we talk about Using an intent/two-phase lock or a thread to solve the race condition in four moinutes | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | minutes even | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +1, in the ironic channel | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:56 |
| max_lobur | there's a point about tempest coverage | 19:56 |
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| max_lobur | I started to expand it | 19:57 |
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| max_lobur | but it turns out to be just porting all the tests from our API | 19:57 |
| devananda | max_lobur: our API unit tests aren't actually exercizing all the pathways (RPC, DBAPI, etc) | 19:57 |
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| max_lobur | for RPC - true | 19:58 |
| devananda | so tempest API tests are functional tests. yes, they may cover the same CRUD operations | 19:58 |
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| max_lobur | that's definitely should be in tempest | 19:58 |
| max_lobur | for orthers | 19:58 |
| devananda | but i dont' think they're duplicate effort | 19:58 |
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| max_lobur | do you think we need to expand coverage in tempest or just add some tests to the api? | 19:58 |
| devananda | what's missing? | 19:59 |
| dkehn | in some cases yes, in some no, grenade is a ersion upgrade testing | 19:59 |
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| max_lobur | because tempest will require a separate patch to update tests, it may be not convenient | 19:59 |
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| dkehn | soem of the others rely on the devstack exercises etc. | 19:59 |
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| dkehn | note | 19:59 |
| devananda | max_lobur: not convenient to do what? | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:59 |
| max_lobur | to update tempest for each API change | 20:00 |
| devananda | dkehn: grenade is a great effort. but ironic doesn't have a prior release to upgrade from (yet) | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | we should move back to channel | 20:00 |
| max_lobur | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67854/1 expanding tempest coverage | 20:00 |
| dkehn | assuming it will | 20:00 |
| devananda | yep, times up -- let's continue these great discussions back in channel | 20:00 |
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| devananda | thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| haomeng2 | bye | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all see un in channel | 20:00 |
| haomeng2 | thk | 20:01 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 20 20:01:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-20-19.00.html | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-20-19.00.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-01-20-19.00.log.html | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 20:01 |
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| emagana | hi all. | 20:56 |
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| anteaya | <- here for about the next 20 minutes, if the train wifi allows it | 20:58 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:59 |
| jorisroovers | hi everyone :-) | 20:59 |
| * sc68cal is battening down the hatches for the big storm in the US northeast | 20:59 | |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain is in the process of landing. | 21:00 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 21:00 |
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| enikanorov_ | hi | 21:00 |
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| beagles | hi | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | I have been given the task to chair the meeting until he joins. If anybody else wants to have the honour, just let me know. | 21:00 |
| jlibosva | hi | 21:00 |
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| iwamoto | hi | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain is here. | 21:00 |
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| salv-orlando | I am not needed anymore. Going into sleep mode. | 21:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
| emagana | :-) | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 20 21:01:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| safchain | hi | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #topic announcements | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #info HUGE Thank You to anteaya for organizing the Montreal code sprint | 21:04 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 21:04 |
| anteaya | you are welcome | 21:04 |
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| anteaya | I think it made a big difference to communication | 21:05 |
| emagana | markmcclain: +1 | 21:05 |
| mlavalle | anteaya: you are a great host. Thanks | 21:05 |
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| anteaya | thanks to everyone who attended and suported the work | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | We got a lot done and still have several things to merge once we get to the bottom of the gate problems | 21:05 |
| anteaya | jlibosva: thanks for being so available | 21:05 |
| anteaya | mlavalle: thanks | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #topic bugs | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:05 | |
| markmcclain | We're currently unable to merge any Neutron changes because the isolated job fails >70% of the time | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | We've had several people looking at it | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | Considering that on wednesday it was a lot better, it should be easy to find out what to rever | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | revert or fix | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | nothing really suspicious got into Neutron (well nothing got into neutron. period.) | 21:07 |
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| salv-orlando | so I think people are already looking into tempest/devstack to see if we let slip in some change which broke neutron or highlighted some other fault in neutron | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | Right the tricky part well finding the review in another project that is causing i | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | another thing to consider is that the patches we're trying to push are all broken ;) | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | which might be since most are mine.... | 21:08 |
| sc68cal | :) | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | given that translations failed probably not the case | 21:08 |
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| enikanorov_ | there are several old issues appeared in a high failure rate | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | Everyone need to be aware that this will impact what can land before the I-2 cut | 21:09 |
| enikanorov_ | plus that gettextutils issue | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | I'd like merge that but the other problems are preventing us from getting even that fix in | 21:10 |
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| enikanorov_ | as said, we have to inspect tempest and devstack commits | 21:11 |
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| markmcclain | We should be coordinating the irc channel as folks find relevant info | 21:11 |
| enikanorov_ | salv-orlando: wmwaer minesweeper is also failing each time, could it give some clue? | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | Besides the unknown gate blocker... Any other bugs to discuss? | 21:12 |
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| anteaya | staying up to date on the challe logs will help: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-neutron/ | 21:12 |
| anteaya | *channel | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | enikanovor_: I have been looking at the logs… it looks like bug 1253896, which should not effect vmware. I can't help but think the changes I and mtreinish did might have an impact | 21:12 |
| banix | markmcclain: Will this also impact the I-2 requirement for new plugins? | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | we pretty much did changes which affect most, if not all, tempest modules | 21:12 |
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| enikanorov_ | even your <tab> are amking typos ;) | 21:13 |
| enikanorov_ | i see, ok | 21:13 |
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| markmcclain | banix: the testing requirement will not change | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | As the deadline is just the first time we publish the compliance list | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | It doesn't become final until the feature freeze in I-3 | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | #topic nova-parity | 21:15 |
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| beagles | hi | 21:15 |
| banix | markmcclain: I see; So even if a new plugin doesn't get merged in I-2, it still can get merged bi I-3? | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | banix:yes | 21:16 |
| beagles | So work continues on "how-to" get semantically similar/equivalent deployments to the nova-network manager | 21:16 |
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| salv-orlando | ping? | 21:16 |
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| salv-orlando | sorry I thought I had been disconnected | 21:16 |
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| beagles | there was some very indepth discussion last week on the differences in how the accessibility of floating IPS work as well as some conversations on the challenges of doing a "multi-host" thing | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | beagles:cool | 21:17 |
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| beagles | I started some "black magic" config-hacks but got caught in some blind alleys... which reminds me that some things are harder to back out of than others :) | 21:18 |
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| Swami | beagles: Do you have a link to the meeting minutes regarding the floating iP discussion | 21:19 |
| beagles | I filed bugs for all of the missing API implementations so they are out there | 21:19 |
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| beagles | Swami: they were vocal, but thanks for reminding me that I need to summarize | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Yeah I think multi host will come up later in the week when the sub team meets | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for filing the bugs | 21:20 |
| Swami | beagles: Yes it would be nice if you could summarize the meeting minutes, since it would be usefull in our multi-host discussions | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | beagles:anything else? | 21:20 |
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| beagles | no, that's pretty much it for what happened last week. While it isn't necessarily top priority, I will need to sync up with mlavalle regarding the APIs that are used from nova and gauge what the coverage is like | 21:21 |
| beagles | in our tempest api tests that is | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | Great... Thanks for updating | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | #topic tempest | 21:22 |
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| mlavalle | beagles: ping me wednesday or thursday, please | 21:22 |
| beagles | mlavalle, cool | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | mlavelle:hi | 21:22 |
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| mlavalle | hi, I want to highlight the progress of last week in Montreal | 21:22 |
| mlavalle | the most important thing is that we trained a few folks on writing api tests | 21:22 |
| mlavalle | and all of them were able to push code at the end of the week | 21:23 |
| Sukhdev | mlavalle: you rock!! :-) | 21:23 |
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| mlavalle | this is key to scale up our efforts to develop tests for Neutron | 21:23 |
| mlavalle | and I will follow up with each one of them to make sure they continue making progress | 21:24 |
| mlavalle | their patch sets were added to the list in the agenda | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | Awesome | 21:24 |
| enikanorov_ | mlavalle: hope their patches leverage new network client | 21:24 |
| mlavalle | and as a bonus, we are finding bugs in Neutron and the docs | 21:24 |
| mlavalle | enikanorov: I have that in mind | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | Better to find them now than in the freeze period | 21:25 |
| Sukhdev | mlavalle: I will be sending out an email on ML to discuss the findings we had regarding API doc issues | 21:25 |
| mlavalle | it's not necessarily happening right now, but as we progress in the review cycle, we will get there | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:25 |
| jorisroovers | enikanorov, they do AFAIK | 21:25 |
| mlavalle | that's it | 21:26 |
| enikanorov_ | good | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | mlavelle thanks for the update | 21:26 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: when do think this will merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67652/1 | 21:26 |
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| mlavalle | I'll take a look at it and ping you later this week | 21:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: great thanks | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: want to update on parallel testing? | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | Parallel, fully 'isolated' testing | 21:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mlavalle: it blocks some of the plugins | 21:27 |
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| markmcclain | Thanks for the correction :) | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | A subset of the people in montreal tackled this issue. I, mtreinish and sylvain afchain tackled tempest changes for making jobs working in full isolation | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | we pushed and merged most of the patches. Trouble is that they might be the cause of the gate failures ;) | 21:28 |
| enikanorov_ | :) | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | rossella_s, carl_baldwin and obondarev tested the patches that we already have under review, and developed other neutron optimisations and/or tempest fixes to make the job work | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | Awesome | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | We hope all these patches will eventually stop failing the gate | 21:29 |
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| salv-orlando | I forgot to mention all the other people who helped us with reviews, marun and nati-ueno and emagana first of all. | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | Yeah I can't wait until we get them all merged | 21:30 |
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| salv-orlando | where first of all does not mean one in particular first of all, but all of them! | 21:30 |
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| salv-orlando | I actually can't wait for the isolated jobs to start working again. | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | then I'll start worrying about the rest ;) | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | Yeah... Will be nice to track down the problem | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:32 |
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| banix | Is this also being looked at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1270244 | 21:32 |
| banix | i see it is. | 21:33 |
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| markmcclain | banix: yep is on our radar | 21:34 |
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| markmcclain | The other item worked on at the sprint was grenade testing | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | Lots of progress was made there too | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:35 |
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| sc68cal | Hello | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:35 |
| marun | 500460 | 21:35 |
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| sc68cal | Last week we got approval for the patch that disables hairpinning in libvirt when Neutron is enabled, but it failed at the gate | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | Might have to retest when we solve the current gate issues | 21:36 |
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| sc68cal | Agreed - so at this point we're sort of stuck in limbo on it | 21:36 |
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| markmcclain | Yeah I think that is going to a be a consistent theme | 21:37 |
| sc68cal | Subnet mode patch requires me to address reviewer comments, however some traffic on the ML last week indicates that others have ideas about moving in a different direction, or prosing additional attributes | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | Ok.. So that everyone should keep following it this week | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:38 |
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| sc68cal | We have a meeting tomorrow, so we will determine the next step by the end of that meeting. At this point we need to put code in the review, instead of continuing to discuss arch | 21:38 |
| sc68cal | I have zero desire to see Neutron have a non-working IPv6 in Icehouse | 21:38 |
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| sc68cal | but I worry we are running very tight timelines | 21:38 |
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| markmcclain | Make to post results of the outcome so that others who can't make the meeting know and can comment on final direction | 21:39 |
| sc68cal | will do - that's it for me | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for updating | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | #topic ml2 | 21:40 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura or Mestery: hi | 21:40 |
| rkukura | I think mestery is offline | 21:40 |
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| rkukura | we've got a lot of work for i-3 | 21:40 |
| rkukura | several new drivers in review or coming soon | 21:41 |
| rkukura | PCI-passthru / SRIOV | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | Yeah I'm a bit concerned given about it | 21:41 |
| rkukura | working on updating portbinding for vif_security | 21:41 |
| rkukura | A couple of the efforts will have broad impact on drivers, but at least drivers are independent from each other | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | Yeah the independence is nice | 21:43 |
| rkukura | I think we've got the general approach for port binding to support vif security and provide the MechanismDrivers all the info they need worked out | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | Great | 21:43 |
| rkukura | We need good progress on code this week | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | Agreed... Any questions on ML2? | 21:44 |
| rkukura | Also need to decide on the TypeDriver refactor that allows more flexible attributes for network segments | 21:45 |
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| markmcclain | Ok.. What's the time frame for that decision? | 21:45 |
| jorisroovers | ls | 21:45 |
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| * jorisroovers (sorry, wrong window) | 21:46 | |
| rkukura | should discuss it in more detail at this Wednesday's subteam meeting | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | Ok.. Thanks for updating | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | #topic lbaas | 21:47 |
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| enikanorov_ | hi | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov_ want to provide an update from last weeks meeting? | 21:48 |
| enikanorov_ | yes | 21:48 |
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| enikanorov_ | we have several pathes on review | 21:48 |
| enikanorov_ | major - ssl extension, loadbalancer instance | 21:48 |
| enikanorov_ | minor - adding ability to start multiple providers with the same driver (service flavor analog) | 21:49 |
| enikanorov_ | another lbaas driver has been posted on review recently | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | Great.. That driver needs testing before we can merge | 21:49 |
| enikanorov_ | sure, the author was informed about that | 21:50 |
| enikanorov_ | still we have to decide on vendor extension framework | 21:50 |
| enikanorov_ | i think that is a really necessary thing to have. currently each vendor tries to extend core lbaas api | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | Yeah...we will need to discuss that on ML since we're running out of time today | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | with what only vendor's driver going to support | 21:51 |
| enikanorov_ | so i'm going to post a WIP patch later this week | 21:51 |
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| enikanorov_ | that's all from me | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | Ok that sounds good | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for the update | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | #topic docs | 21:52 |
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| emagana | hi all! | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | Sorry I accidentally skipped you | 21:52 |
| emagana | One important topic to share is about HA Neutron | 21:52 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: No problem! | 21:52 |
| emagana | I have started a mailing list discussion: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-January/003689.html | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | Cool | 21:53 |
| emagana | Feedback is required, specially from those who have deployed HA is both active/standby and active/active | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | thanks for sharing the link | 21:54 |
| emagana | So far the idea is to deprecated some of the staff in standby/active and pushing the default to be active/active.. BTW. Many thanks to EmilienM for the great discussion on this | 21:55 |
| emagana | nothing more so far from me, if anyone wants to add something, please go ahead | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | thanks for the update | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:56 |
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| samuelbercovici | hi | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | Hi | 21:56 |
| samuelbercovici | looks like i missed by an hour | 21:56 |
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| salv-orlando | techinically 56 minutes... | 21:57 |
| samuelbercovici | :-p | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | Any other items this week? | 21:58 |
| jlibosva | I'd like to ask about SG, especially ask core reviewers to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21946/ | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | Thanks to everyone for stopping in the week and remember to share info on the gate bugs on | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | IRC | 21:59 |
| marun | 299429 | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | jlibosva there was some discussion on the approach | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | I know salv-orlando and I have both reviewed | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | I reviewed the nova-side patch. | 22:00 |
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| markmcclain | Ok we're at time | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 20 22:01:35 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-20-21.01.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-20-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-01-20-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
| rkukura | jlibosva: I thought we had worked out a plan on that with Nachi to handle the ML2 binding in an initial patch | 22:01 |
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| salv-orlando | adieuuuuuuuu | 22:01 |
| jorisroovers | laters :-) | 22:01 |
| emagana | ciao | 22:02 |
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| ivar-lazzaro | bye | 22:02 |
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| Sukhdev_ | cya | 22:02 |
| jlibosva | rkukura: is there any discussion somewhere? | 22:02 |
| jlibosva | bye | 22:02 |
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| sarob | Milk devs still | 23:14 |
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