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| DinaBelova | Ok, hello everyone | 10:01 |
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| Nikolay_St | ok, let's go | 10:01 |
| DinaBelova | Climate team guys, please raise your hands | 10:02 |
| DinaBelova | I do not see Sylvain | 10:02 |
| Nikolay_St | \o/ | 10:02 |
| Nikolay_St | he was here | 10:02 |
| Nikolay_St | i saw him i think | 10:02 |
| ogelbukh | o/ | 10:03 |
| DinaBelova | scroiset, are you here? | 10:03 |
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| bauzas | #startmeeting climate | 10:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 10:04:00 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: climate)" | 10:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'climate' | 10:04 |
| bauzas | morning people | 10:04 |
| DinaBelova | hello | 10:04 |
| Nikolay_St | hi | 10:04 |
| bauzas | sorry for being late, I was having trouble with my IRC client | 10:04 |
| DinaBelova | I was thinking you decided to leave us | 10:04 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 10:04 |
| bauzas | who else is in the meeting ? | 10:04 |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 10:05 |
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| DinaBelova | Nikolay is here too | 10:05 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: yup, saw | 10:05 |
| bauzas | waiting for scroiset | 10:05 |
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| bauzas | francois can't attend the meeting today, he is at the SuperComputing conference | 10:06 |
| DinaBelova | Swann did not say he has some things to do? | 10:07 |
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| bauzas | I missed that point | 10:07 |
| scroiset | o/ | 10:07 |
| DinaBelova | Oh, hello! | 10:07 |
| bauzas | ah cool, we can begin :) | 10:07 |
| scroiset | sorry | 10:07 |
| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate#Agenda_for_November.2C_18 | 10:08 |
| DinaBelova | Sylvain, please set the first topic | 10:08 |
| bauzas | #topic meeting chair rotation | 10:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting chair rotation (Meeting topic: climate)" | 10:08 | |
| bauzas | as discussed with Dina, she explained me she would like to host the meeting for today | 10:09 |
| bauzas | I'm not against | 10:09 |
| scroiset | I'm ok | 10:09 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay? | 10:09 |
| bauzas | as said to Dina, I even feel OK with any people wanting to take that role on a meeting | 10:09 |
| Nikolay_St | i'm here | 10:10 |
| bauzas | like a Scrum Master can be a rotating position | 10:10 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, so everybody is ok with this idea? | 10:10 |
| bauzas | +1 | 10:10 |
| scroiset | +1 | 10:10 |
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| DinaBelova | Nikolay, Sergey? | 10:10 |
| SergeyLukjanov | ooops, missed start of meeting | 10:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | notification for "Sergey" :) | 10:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | no objections from my side | 10:11 |
| Nikolay_St | +1 | 10:11 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, that's nice | 10:11 |
| bauzas | one last thing before we go on with Dina for this meeting | 10:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it's really cool to have several guys who can chair the meeting | 10:12 |
| jd__ | o/ | 10:12 |
| bauzas | we will begin on a rotation with Dina for that position on a weekly basis | 10:12 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw I don't think that she'll be able to use #topic because of bauzas starts the meeting | 10:13 |
| bauzas | anyone who wants to take the position could propose him at the summit agenda | 10:13 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: will give her the rights | 10:13 |
| bauzas | oops | 10:13 |
| bauzas | not the summit agenda | 10:13 |
| SergeyLukjanov | :) | 10:13 |
| bauzas | the meeting agenda sorry | 10:13 |
| DinaBelova | But the meeting one, yes | 10:13 |
| bauzas | and then we vote | 10:13 |
| bauzas | ok | 10:13 |
| DinaBelova | If it's that it let's change roles :) | 10:14 |
| bauzas | #agreed DinaBelova to host as chairman for this meeting | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | And go to the next topic. | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 10:14 |
| bauzas | hold on | 10:14 |
| bauzas | #chair DinaBelova | 10:14 |
| openstack | Current chairs: DinaBelova bauzas | 10:14 |
| bauzas | now you can :) | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 10:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: climate)" | 10:14 | |
| SergeyLukjanov | (y) | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | wow, that' difficult :D | 10:14 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, last meeting there were a lot of things decides to do | 10:15 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: just keep in mind the commands :) | 10:15 |
| DinaBelova | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-11-13-09.59.html | 10:15 |
| bauzas | yup | 10:15 |
| DinaBelova | We may go through Action items, by person part and look what's done and so on | 10:16 |
| bauzas | sure | 10:16 |
| DinaBelova | As for 45600 review it was merged, but not really as it should | 10:16 |
| bauzas | actually, there was only me as owner of an action :D | 10:16 |
| DinaBelova | that's why now we have critical bug about tests implementing | 10:16 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay, what's the status for it? | 10:16 |
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| Nikolay_St | i'm waiting for the patch one of Mirantis guys are working on | 10:17 |
| Nikolay_St | you this patch is about jd__ comment on my test for REST API | 10:18 |
| DinaBelova | That will impplement tetsts modules separation to the right structure? | 10:18 |
| DinaBelova | ok, see it | 10:18 |
| Nikolay_St | yeap | 10:18 |
| Nikolay_St | so | 10:18 |
| bauzas | could you please give us the review ? | 10:18 |
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| Nikolay_St | bauzas: is soon is it'll be ready | 10:18 |
| DinaBelova | There is no one now, today I'll give you link | 10:18 |
| bauzas | ah ok | 10:18 |
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| DinaBelova | ok, and as for 52296 review | 10:19 |
| Nikolay_St | so I'll continue that it'll be done | 10:19 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, you have planned to review it | 10:19 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 10:19 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: yup | 10:19 |
| bauzas | I'm nearly done with the review | 10:20 |
| bauzas | no precise objection to make | 10:20 |
| DinaBelova | ok, I suppose Nikolay should rebase it and you'll have the opportunity to review it as the last version | 10:20 |
| bauzas | exactly | 10:20 |
| DinaBelova | because now it is outdated anyway | 10:20 |
| bauzas | yup | 10:20 |
| jd__ | I'll try to do a pass on reviews FWIW | 10:21 |
| bauzas | now the Manager is merged, this one is the next to be validated | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | #action Nikolay_St Rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 10:21 |
| Nikolay_St | done | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | Great :) | 10:21 |
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| Nikolay_St | i miss you new patches. my bad | 10:21 |
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| bauzas | ok, you can put me an action for reviewing | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, the next action item was about tests for the API and Manager | 10:21 |
| DinaBelova | #action bauzas Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 10:22 |
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| DinaBelova | Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52903/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53896/ till 25 of November | 10:22 |
| DinaBelova | I think we need to hurry up this moment, if that’s possible. | 10:22 |
| DinaBelova | Because these tests are now a real problem | 10:22 |
| bauzas | well, btw. sth was unclear about how many +2 need to be done for merging code | 10:22 |
| DinaBelova | 2 +2, as far as I remember | 10:22 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, can you comment this? | 10:23 |
| jd__ | yes, you need two +2 | 10:23 |
| bauzas | I was still on only one +2, coming from the other team | 10:23 |
| jd__ | the second person setting +2 is authorized to put Approved | 10:23 |
| DinaBelova | ok, agreed | 10:23 |
| bauzas | jd__: then we need to modify Gerrit for this :) | 10:23 |
| jd__ | bauzas: there's no hard-coded rule in Gerrit for that | 10:24 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, that's unwritten rule | 10:24 |
| jd__ | it's just a social convention in all OpenStack projects | 10:24 |
| bauzas | atm, only one +2 is needed for Gerrit | 10:24 |
| bauzas | I know that for other projects, a 2nd +2 is needed | 10:24 |
| jd__ | having the ability to fast-approve is also handy when you need to unbreak the gate quickly (that happens once a year :) | 10:24 |
| bauzas | I will double-check that :) | 10:25 |
| jd__ | bauzas: nothing in Gerrit blocks that | 10:25 |
| bauzas | so you mean that provided I'm a Nova core-reviewer, I can send a patch to trunk only with my +2 ? | 10:25 |
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| DinaBelova | bauzas, yes | 10:25 |
| bauzas | I was thinking Gerrit was blocking if no second +2 | 10:25 |
| DinaBelova | but that's really a bad type of behaviour | 10:25 |
| bauzas | ok, good to know | 10:26 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | there are no rules in gerrit | 10:26 |
| bauzas | only a social convention, gotcha | 10:26 |
| SergeyLukjanov | for checking +2s | 10:26 |
| jd__ | bauzas: that's what I mean | 10:26 |
| bauzas | ok, agreed then | 10:26 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, as for unassigned actions | 10:26 |
| DinaBelova | We had POC using shelved instances | 10:26 |
| DinaBelova | I suppose that's virtual part of research | 10:26 |
| bauzas | good to see this :) | 10:26 |
| bauzas | yup | 10:26 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay, I've heard you started looking on it? | 10:27 |
| DinaBelova | If no, won't you mind to start working on it after tests finishing? | 10:27 |
| DinaBelova | It seems that Nikolay has some troubles with irc client now... | 10:28 |
| bauzas | ok waiting for him then :) | 10:28 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova POC using shelved instances | 10:29 |
| Nikolay_St | u | 10:29 |
| Nikolay_St | ou | 10:29 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, we'll decide together who'll be wotking on it :) | 10:29 |
| DinaBelova | sorry, working* | 10:29 |
| Nikolay_St | yeap | 10:29 |
| Nikolay_St | fine :) | 10:29 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, about blueprints - I've saw we have written some of them | 10:30 |
| bauzas | ok | 10:30 |
| bauzas | me too | 10:30 |
| DinaBelova | So I think it's ok with this part | 10:30 |
| bauzas | think so as well | 10:30 |
| DinaBelova | I'm not quite sure about the last action item | 10:30 |
| DinaBelova | Change implementation of ReservationPools from Pclouds to AZ | 10:30 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, may you comment it? | 10:30 |
| bauzas | scroiset: ? | 10:31 |
| DinaBelova | ops, sorry. Yes, Swann, please | 10:31 |
| bauzas | as you saw, swann abandoned his patch about patches | 10:31 |
| bauzas | pclouds, sorrty | 10:31 |
| scroiset | yes, we're using nova aggregate to manage a pool of hosts | 10:31 |
| bauzas | the status is under review, correct ? | 10:31 |
| scroiset | pclouds are not more used | 10:31 |
| scroiset | yes, under review | 10:31 |
| bauzas | coolio | 10:32 |
| scroiset | there are some unittest in :) | 10:32 |
| bauzas | cool (bis) | 10:32 |
| DinaBelova | ok, so that's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56424/ | 10:32 |
| DinaBelova | correct? | 10:32 |
| bauzas | most of the phys part changes need to be rebased consequently | 10:32 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: yup | 10:32 |
| scroiset | DinaBelova: yes. I'll look your comments | 10:32 |
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| DinaBelova | #action Please rebase all changes to the current code state (for all contributors) | 10:33 |
| DinaBelova | ok, I suppose we may go to the next part | 10:33 |
| bauzas | ok | 10:33 |
| DinaBelova | #topic High priority issues | 10:33 |
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| DinaBelova | We have discussed already tests changes | 10:33 |
| DinaBelova | Still they have main priority | 10:34 |
| DinaBelova | As for other things | 10:34 |
| DinaBelova | Do you have, guys, some other high priority thing to discuss? | 10:34 |
| bauzas | I'm finishing up Policy implementation in Climate | 10:34 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, great! | 10:35 |
| bauzas | needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52396/ | 10:35 |
| bauzas | as these endpoints need to be admin only | 10:35 |
| bauzas | the review would then be prioritary | 10:35 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52396/ | 10:35 |
| bauzas | should be proposed by eob today | 10:35 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, great | 10:35 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52396/ is still needing policy implementation, and also needs rebase | 10:36 |
| bauzas | as pcloud support has been abandoned | 10:36 |
| bauzas | shouldn't be an hard thing thou | 10:36 |
| DinaBelova | Agreed | 10:36 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56424/ is top prio for us | 10:36 |
| bauzas | for reviewing I mean | 10:36 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, I've left some comments on it (for the first sight) | 10:37 |
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| bauzas | yup | 10:37 |
| DinaBelova | I'll take a deeper look on it today too | 10:37 |
| bauzas | I'm just saying please focus to that review :) | 10:37 |
| DinaBelova | Ok :) | 10:37 |
| bauzas | there are also a few great patches from mstill and SergeyLukjanov to merge | 10:37 |
| bauzas | will review them | 10:38 |
| DinaBelova | #action Review infrastructure patches for Climate | 10:38 |
| DinaBelova | Ok | 10:38 |
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| DinaBelova | I think we may go to the next interesting topic | 10:38 |
| bauzas | sure, the roadmap | 10:38 |
| DinaBelova | About further roadmap | 10:38 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Draft roadmap for Climate | 10:39 |
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| DinaBelova | Ok | 10:39 |
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| bauzas | well, that's a huge thing | 10:39 |
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| DinaBelova | yep, we have three branches of work | 10:39 |
| DinaBelova | 1/ core things | 10:39 |
| DinaBelova | 2/ physical patches | 10:39 |
| DinaBelova | 3/ virtual ones | 10:39 |
| DinaBelova | As for 1/ | 10:40 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | are there any plans to patch horizon to support reservations in it? | 10:40 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, sure | 10:40 |
| bauzas | well, I would not say these ones are "branches", but I get your point :) | 10:40 |
| DinaBelova | But we did not discuss this point before | 10:41 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, sure, sorry | 10:41 |
| bauzas | do we have resources for it? | 10:41 |
| DinaBelova | I think we may try to find them and discuss results on the next meeting | 10:41 |
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| bauzas | well, I still think we're missing BPs for what we plan "next" | 10:42 |
| bauzas | :) | 10:42 |
| DinaBelova | #action DinaBelova create BP for Horizon support | 10:42 |
| DinaBelova | okay | 10:42 |
| Nikolay_St | neutron implementation | 10:42 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, that's 3/, let's wait for it | 10:43 |
| DinaBelova | As for 1/ we have: Pecan integration, Oslo-messaging integration nad support for different reservarion types | 10:43 |
| DinaBelova | I think that's the high priority things | 10:44 |
| bauzas | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate | 10:44 |
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| DinaBelova | What do you think guys? | 10:44 |
| bauzas | I would rephrase api-extension, pecan-wsme and oslo-messaging as "high" priority | 10:45 |
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| bauzas | and to be planned for the first milestone :) | 10:45 |
| bauzas | but do we have milestones yet ? :D | 10:45 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I think that's nice idea | 10:45 |
| bauzas | ok, modifying the blueprints accordingly | 10:46 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | are you guys planning to use common OpenStack release cycle? | 10:46 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I mean to make some milestone releases like i1, i2 | 10:46 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: that's a really good question | 10:47 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, I'd like to work on this direction | 10:47 |
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| bauzas | in terms of velocity, I can't say if we can | 10:47 |
| bauzas | but I would say we're aiming to | 10:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the i1 is Dec 5 | 10:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | so, the main question are you ready to release smth at Dec 5 | 10:47 |
| bauzas | far too short for what we said | 10:47 |
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| bauzas | nope, was more likely thinking of icehouse-2 | 10:48 |
| DinaBelova | I think i2 is more reachable thing too | 10:48 |
| scroiset | +1 for i2 | 10:48 |
| Nikolay_St | I agree | 10:48 |
| SergeyLukjanov | on the other side I'm personally like to release more frequently to have some flexibility before some 'stable' version | 10:49 |
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| DinaBelova | #action Everyone Think about what should be delivered for i2 release | 10:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | for example you can release several 0.X release each 4-6 weeks and then adjust release cycle by release Icehouse | 10:49 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mid April | 10:49 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: it would be cool if we could target blueprints completions by Openstack milestones | 10:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I think everyone shouldthink about proc/cons on it and just put item to the next meeting | 10:50 |
| DinaBelova | I think supporting of OpenStack release cycle is a good point of discussion | 10:50 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, +1 | 10:50 |
| bauzas | of course, that doesn't mean we can't rollout on a shorter basis | 10:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | OpenStack milestones means that you'll be tested and integrated with the specified milestone | 10:50 |
| SergeyLukjanov | it could be difficult during the active dev | 10:50 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: well, something is unclear | 10:51 |
| jd__ | it shouldn't be hard to release milestone and start following the release cycle with starting at i2 | 10:51 |
| jd__ | might be short for i1 | 10:51 |
| bauzas | agreed | 10:51 |
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| DinaBelova | #action Everyone think about proc/cons on using OpenStack release cycle and more frequent releases | 10:51 |
| bauzas | let's discuss it by email | 10:52 |
| DinaBelova | I think that's it for core part roadmap | 10:52 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, ok | 10:52 |
| bauzas | that's for overall roadmap | 10:52 |
| bauzas | unless you think about extensions | 10:52 |
| bauzas | which isn't the case yet | 10:52 |
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| DinaBelova | That's overall and about things not depending on physical or virtual topict | 10:53 |
| DinaBelova | topics* | 10:53 |
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| bauzas | my point is that I think we should also cope with the milestones, even for subprojects | 10:53 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I think so too | 10:53 |
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| DinaBelova | Do you have some thoughts about physical roadmap? | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | We do not have much time now | 10:54 |
| bauzas | yup, we're running out of time | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | so we need to hurry up | 10:54 |
| bauzas | let's discuss that by email or later in IRC | 10:54 |
| bauzas | and again, create BPs accordingly | 10:54 |
| bauzas | ok, maybe last topic ? | 10:55 |
| bauzas | 'cause I opened the conf at 1003 | 10:55 |
| DinaBelova | As for virtual roadmap, we are planning to get POC for shelved instances, volumes and Neutron resources | 10:55 |
| bauzas | and we are only having 8 mins lefy | 10:55 |
| DinaBelova | for Icehouse | 10:55 |
| bauzas | ok, good to know | 10:55 |
| DinaBelova | #topic Open discussion | 10:56 |
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| DinaBelova | Ok, last minutes | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | do we have something to discuss? | 10:56 |
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| bauzas | as said, working on policy aspects | 10:56 |
| bauzas | hard thing | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | Not connected with already mentioned topics? | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, yes, sure... | 10:56 |
| Nikolay_St | we want to discuss move out parts of scheduler and nova | 10:56 |
| Nikolay_St | from climate | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | I think that's great topic to discuss by emails | 10:57 |
| DinaBelova | because it's quite huge | 10:57 |
| bauzas | yup, let's discuss by email | 10:57 |
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| DinaBelova | and really important for physical part of our team | 10:57 |
| DinaBelova | ok, I suppose, that's it | 10:57 |
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| Nikolay_St | okay | 10:57 |
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| bauzas | on another note, I'm discussing with Nova folks about how we interact | 10:57 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, is that on mailing list? | 10:58 |
| Nikolay_St | #action test_nova_scheduler email discussion | 10:58 |
| bauzas | yup | 10:58 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, we will check it | 10:58 |
| DinaBelova | I think we may end meeting because of lack of time | 10:58 |
| DinaBelova | Goodbye, guys | 10:59 |
| Nikolay_St | bye | 10:59 |
| scroiset | bye | 10:59 |
| DinaBelova | #endmeeting | 10:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 10:59:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-11-18-10.04.html | 10:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-11-18-10.04.txt | 10:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-11-18-10.04.log.html | 10:59 |
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| ilyashakhat | #startmeeting Stackalytics | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 15:02:06 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ilyashakhat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'stackalytics' | 15:02 |
| ilyashakhat | Hi everyone, it's time for our bi-weekly meeting on Stackalytics project | 15:02 |
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| ilyashakhat | #topic project news | 15:03 |
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| ilyashakhat | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/stackalytics/+spec/review-punchcard | 15:04 |
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| ilyashakhat | is available in beta | 15:04 |
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| ilyashakhat | the link to report is added to contribution summary section | 15:05 |
| ilyashakhat | and it shows the activity log for engineer as well as the usual working hours | 15:06 |
| ilyashakhat | like that: http://stackalytics.com/report/users/slukjanov | 15:06 |
| ilyashakhat | Another blueprint in beta is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/stackalytics/+spec/module-review-backlog-stats | 15:07 |
| ilyashakhat | it is also a report, available for modules | 15:08 |
| ilyashakhat | it shows list of open reviews, like that: http://stackalytics.com/report/reviews/neutron | 15:08 |
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| ilyashakhat | #topic New blueprints | 15:12 |
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| ilyashakhat | We have one new blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/stackalytics/+spec/openstack-status | 15:12 |
| ilyashakhat | the author asks some features available in github, like used languages, download stats, etc. | 15:13 |
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| ilyashakhat | language stats we can calculate from git repo, but OpenStack is mostly python, so there shouldn't be any surprises :) | 15:15 |
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| ilyashakhat | downloads, git clone stats is not available and a bit useless since code may be checkout by devstack or set from packages | 15:17 |
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| ilyashakhat | so these features don't seem to be very useful, keep it untouched | 15:18 |
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| ilyashakhat | One more blueprint that hangs for a couple of months is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/stackalytics/+spec/review-disagreements | 15:19 |
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| ilyashakhat | it's not hard from math perspective, but requires a way to get list of core engs | 15:20 |
| ilyashakhat | basically to get a list of cores for particular project the one should do the following: | 15:21 |
| ilyashakhat | get name of gerrit core group | 15:21 |
| ilyashakhat | that is easy by running ls-groups command | 15:22 |
| ilyashakhat | ex. ssh -p 29418 review.openstack.org gerrit ls-groups --project openstack/python-glanceclient | 15:22 |
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| ilyashakhat | the core group is the one with -core suffix | 15:23 |
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| ilyashakhat | then goes tricky/impossible part - to get list of members for that group | 15:23 |
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| ilyashakhat | authorized user can get it via gerrit ui, but it doesn't accept group name, only id | 15:24 |
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| ilyashakhat | as an option we can track core members separately | 15:25 |
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| ilyashakhat | that's all with news from Stackalytics | 15:31 |
| ilyashakhat | #topic Open discussion | 15:32 |
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| ilyashakhat | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 15:36:35 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stackalytics/2013/stackalytics.2013-11-18-15.02.html | 15:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stackalytics/2013/stackalytics.2013-11-18-15.02.txt | 15:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/stackalytics/2013/stackalytics.2013-11-18-15.02.log.html | 15:36 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 16:00:17 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | let's have another community meeting | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | meeting agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:02 |
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| akuznetsov | Hi | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's quickly review the previous action items | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review action items | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, akuznetsov, stanlagun, tsufiev, keep working on DSL/API Mistral specification and include all features discussed at the summit | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | it's still in progress | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | I think we need to speed this up this week | 16:08 |
| tsufiev | yes, definitely :) | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | according to our Roadmap it should be done by Nov 25 | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | so, in fact, we need to accomplish this in 2-3 day to have some time for discussions reviews | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm going to contribute a significant part of my time for that starting tomorrow | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | ok, next item | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, publish detailed description of "Long-running business process" use case on wiki | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Long_Running_Business_Process | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | next | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, create a list of Blueprints for Mistral features | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | it's basically done | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | I created a list of blueprints that reflect everything we've discussed so far | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | next item | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | ativelkov, collect the info about use case related to setting up a network | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | in progress and it's not a high priority | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | akhmerov, put together AIs and agreements achieved in HK and publish them in mailing list | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | I put everything into blueprints | 16:15 |
| xwizard | cool ) | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | and I'd ask you to validate them and share your feedback | 16:16 |
| xwizard | I suggest to specify the priority for each blueprint | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, right :) | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, specify priorities for blueprints | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | thanks | 16:17 |
| xwizard | and... looks like I have no access to edit or add some blueprints... and I belive that other peoples too ) | 16:17 |
| xwizard | need to allow access to the launchpad project | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | ok, sure | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | will do | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | #action grant access to publish blueprints at Launchpad to other participants | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | ok, next item | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | gokrokve, igormarnat, akuznetsom review Roadmap and add whatever you think needs to be added in there | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | basically done | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | next item | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, share Roadmap with the community to start discussing it | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | done | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Roadmap | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | #info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralRoadmap | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | I think we'll be making some changes to it but it pretty much reflects our current vision | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | if you any comments on that we can discuss it | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, akuznetsov, NikolayM review https://github.com/airbnb/chronos and http://mesos.apache.org/ with regard to storing and executing distributed tasks | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | it's in progress | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | I think we can spend some time (not too much) this week just to get familiar with those things on a high level (functionality, architectural approach) | 16:22 |
| akuznetsov | I am not sure that it is suitable for us, because this projects has dependencies on Apache Zookeeper | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | ook | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | did you have a chance to look at them? | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | how detailed? | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok, we can get back to it later | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | last item | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, kuznetsov, harlowja clearly describe the high-level separation of functionality between TaskFlow and Mistral in terms of addressed use cases | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | we worked on that pretty actively | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | had lots of discussions and we create a good etherpad | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TaskFlowAndMistral | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | I think it's mostly clear what's in common and what the differences are between these projects | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | we pretty much agreed that they have some overlap but the processing models are significantly different | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | and applicable for different use cases | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | again, if you have any additional thoughts please write them in there (etherpad) | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | so ok, we have a few more things to discuss today | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | let's move on to the next topic | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Mistral PoC scope | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | I created a blueprint for Mistral PoC at Launchpad | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | where I listed out on a high level what needs to done | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | hm, Launchpad seems to be down for me | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | could you guys try to open https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral? | 16:31 |
| ativelkov | it works | 16:31 |
| tsufiev | works | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | hm, problems on my side | 16:31 |
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| radix | I just subscribed to the scheduling bp | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | ok, works for me now | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | here it is | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-poc | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | please take a look at it and let us know if you have suggestions on what should be included/removed | 16:32 |
| tnurlygayanov | we plan to use two cli clients? | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | that's a different topic :) | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | but possibly yes | 16:34 |
| tnurlygayanov | so, it is about blueprints :) | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | and it's not going to be in PoC most likely | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | tnurlygayanov, yes | 16:34 |
| tnurlygayanov | ok ) | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | the term "CLI" for the second one (for launching a worker process) may not be very good but basically the idea is to create a command line tool to simplify configuring and launching a worker process | 16:35 |
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| tnurlygayanov | we can probably move some information for each blueprint on the wiki | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | we have it there :) | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mistral/Blueprints | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | they currently don't contain much but we'll be populating them as we work | 16:37 |
| tnurlygayanov | cool | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | well, I'm looking at the blueprint now and I would add one more item: | 16:38 |
| tnurlygayanov | do we have anything for discussion? When we plan to start write the first line of code? ) | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | demo worker | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | well, we already have several :) | 16:39 |
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| stanlagun | i suggest not to use word 'worker' | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | but today we're supposed to start writing it really intensively | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | stanlagun, what would be your suggestion? | 16:41 |
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| stanlagun | demo app | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | I don't like it either since it may confuse people (as if Mistral had dedicated workers) | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | hm.. | 16:41 |
| stanlagun | worker means something dedicated | 16:41 |
| stanlagun | more like in celery | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | yes, I know | 16:41 |
| tnurlygayanov | we have blueprint for worker cli, but have no blueprint for wroker. What is it? | 16:42 |
| tnurlygayanov | *worker | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | well, a worker is supposed to be created using worker cli :) | 16:42 |
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| stanlagun | worker=worker cli=demo app? | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | like stanlagun said, "worker" is not something specific to Mistral | 16:42 |
| stanlagun | its confusing | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | yes, something like that | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | we can call it in another way | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | I just think "demo app" doesn't reflect it's meaning | 16:43 |
| tnurlygayanov | what this "worker" will do? | 16:44 |
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| rakhmerov | it will process task actions | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | coming from Mistral via some channel like rabbit or HTTP | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | "action handler" or "handler" may be? | 16:45 |
| stanlagun | usually Mistral client app is the worker. Demo app is just an app that uses Mistral. And it is worker for its own tasks | 16:45 |
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| stanlagun | The point is that app is not about task handling as it is not its main purpose | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | stanlagun, I agree but I believe that may be confusing for people too :) | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | hm... | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | thinking | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | how about "handler application"? | 16:47 |
| stanlagun | Just don't want people to think that they need to craft special workers every time | 16:47 |
| tsufiev | i'd suggest call it 'demo client' | 16:47 |
| tsufiev | because this app is also a client for Mistral | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | I just want to make it clear that this is something that handles actions | 16:47 |
| tnurlygayanov | so, it is mistral-agent ) | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | app is too general | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | tsufiev, "because this app is also a client for Mistral" is not really true | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | it may be but not necessary | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's postpone take it out of this meeting | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, stanlagun, come up with a good name for "worker" (so that it wouldn't be confusing) | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Blueprints | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | I think we've been discussing that for a while | 16:50 |
| stanlagun | The difference is that demo app does something valuable and uses Mistral to achieve its goal. It handles task actions for that matter. Handler app is the app dedicated to task handling that has no business value of its own | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | well | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | consider the following scenario | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | say we've created a PoC and CLI to work with Mistral | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | so that I can cal: mistral upload mytaskgraph.yaml | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | mistral start-workflow 12 "create_env" | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | I don't have anything what you call app here | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | I'm just using CLI to start my workflow | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | I agree it's not something given from the real life but anyway, moving forward we'll have use cases like this | 16:53 |
| tsufiev | but who will do the actual work of creating env in that case? | 16:53 |
| stanlagun | I think there cannot be generic client that can start just any given workflow | 16:53 |
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| stanlagun | Apps know how to handle some specific workflows that does something meaningful. So that would be not just CLI but a normal app | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | tsufiev, it can be heat or anything else that we can access via AMQP or HTTP | 16:54 |
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| stanlagun | well it can be true in some cases | 16:55 |
| stanlagun | but not for now | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | stanlagun, I see your point here | 16:55 |
| stanlagun | anyway yiu cannot make generic CLI client. Just an app for special cases of workflows | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | not sure I'm understanding you here, seriously :) | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | why can't we have CLI that we could use just to, for example, upload a start a workflow? | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | the work may be done by real applications but a point where we start it can be CLI easily, why not? | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm not saying it's a typical use case | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | but in some cases we can use it | 16:57 |
| stanlagun | we could have. But this would be management colnsole :) | 16:57 |
| stanlagun | console | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:58 |
| stanlagun | we don't really need management console for PoC | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | yes, but for me it would be convenient to have CLI | 16:58 |
| stanlagun | management CLI | 16:58 |
| stanlagun | anyway | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | yes, agree here | 16:58 |
| stanlagun | Mistral admin | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | I was talking actually not about PoC, sorry | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | 1 min | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | let's wrap it up | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | I'll see you soon guys, bye | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 16:59:37 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-11-18-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-11-18-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-11-18-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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| jaypipes | rakhmerov: gah... missed the Mistral meeting again :( Reading back now :) | 17:20 |
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| rakhmerov | jaypipes: yeah, try to join us next time please :) | 17:23 |
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| rakhmerov | it'd be very cool | 17:23 |
| jaypipes | rakhmerov: will do! :) | 17:23 |
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| rakhmerov | thanks :) | 17:23 |
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| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 19:01:27 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
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| devananda | Hi lucasagomes, NobodyCam, lifeless, everyone! | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:02 |
| shadower | hey | 19:02 |
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| lifeless | o/ devananda | 19:02 |
| devananda | NobodyCam seems to still be getting his coffee :) | 19:02 |
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| GheRivero | o/ | 19:03 |
| devananda | in the mean time, here's our agenda for the day: | 19:03 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:03 |
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| devananda | that giant agenda aside, I would like to take a little time and go over the ehterpad from the summit | 19:04 |
| devananda | make sure we have captured BPs for all the things taht need them | 19:04 |
| devananda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseIronicNextSteps | 19:04 |
| devananda | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic | 19:04 |
| devananda | #topic blueprints | 19:05 |
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| devananda | I sent an email out last week about it, and I see a few folks ahve put up a few BPs | 19:06 |
| devananda | shall I poke and prod? or just start creating and assigning based on my notes/memory? | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | yea I did only one, I will try to write more this week (I just got myself fighting against wsme complex type validations and couldn't stop) | 19:07 |
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| lucasagomes | things like porting bugs doesn't need a bp does it? | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | porting bug fixes* | 19:08 |
| devananda | nah | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | right, I can pick some others then, idk "Secure boot (signed firmware)" sounds interesting I will have to do some research on that | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | but I can do it and write a bp | 19:08 |
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| devananda | anything that we punted on should not get a BP | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | ahn.. right | 19:09 |
| devananda | it's the "road to MVP" taht really needs to be addressed | 19:10 |
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| devananda | and I'd like to capture "important next steps" and "copied from other sessions" as well, since folks will probably be working on some of that this cycle | 19:10 |
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| romcheg | Is ironic meeting now? | 19:11 |
| devananda | and we should somewhat of an idea of what development will be goign on during this cycle so taht I can communicate that to the release manager (thierry) | 19:11 |
| devananda | romcheg: hi! yes | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, yes | 19:11 |
| romcheg | hi, sorry for being late? | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg, it's grand | 19:12 |
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| devananda | romcheg: no worries. blame daylight savings time change. | 19:12 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, right I can take a look at the pxe integration then | 19:12 |
| devananda | romcheg: we were discussing converting the etherpads from the summit int oblueprints | 19:14 |
| romcheg | Oh, these are mine: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/migration-from-nova https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ironic/+spec/utility-ramdisk | 19:15 |
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| devananda | great, thanks! | 19:16 |
| devananda | we're addign them to the etherpad here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IcehouseIronicNextSteps | 19:16 |
| devananda | so we can see what does/n't have a BP yet | 19:16 |
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| romcheg | devananda: cool | 19:17 |
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| devananda | romcheg: the other topic with your name on it seems to be RPC routing | 19:18 |
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| devananda | romcheg: still want to take taht on? if so, can you file a BP? | 19:18 |
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| romcheg | devananda: I'm still working on the BP | 19:18 |
| romcheg | 75% done | 19:18 |
| devananda | great | 19:18 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: for the bug fix porting, how do you feel about making a list somewhere public | 19:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: so taht we can check off when each bug is ported? | 19:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: and are there enough bug fixes to port to warrant doing taht? | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, sure works for me | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | I will try to map that tomorrow then | 19:20 |
| * lucasagomes writes it down | 19:20 | |
| devananda | lucasagomes: thanks! | 19:20 |
| devananda | ok, that list is looking much better to me | 19:21 |
| devananda | I'll keep working on general things (oslo, docs, nova glue, etc) | 19:21 |
| devananda | there are more oslo changes to sync, too... | 19:21 |
| devananda | any questions about BPs before we start going through the actual agenda? | 19:22 |
| devananda | #topic previous action items | 19:22 |
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| devananda | nova-ironic driver | 19:22 |
| devananda | NobodyCam has taken over that work and it seems to be going well | 19:23 |
| devananda | he'll probably have things tos ay when he's back from coffee :) | 19:23 |
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| devananda | lucas to add cli docs | 19:23 |
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| devananda | if you didn't already, maybe wait a bit -- I may do some rewriting of our docs soon | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | yea shame on me, I started writting a manpage for the CLI but it's stoped in time | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | yea there's some API changes I'm doing in the moment that will also affects the CLI | 19:24 |
| devananda | Ah! manpage for the CLI would be great | 19:24 |
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| devananda | don't worry about API docs or deployer .rst doc files | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | yea I've a patch which is now abandoned but I will revive that soon | 19:25 |
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| NobodyCam | did our meeting change time | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | ? | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | yea, I think a manpage would be a great doc for CLIs | 19:25 |
| devananda | I think we can auto-generate all the API docs from the pecan/wsme code. just need to plumb that | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yup, I'm counting on that for the API :) | 19:25 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: meeting times are in GMT. the US changed time :p | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | sorry | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | I was an hour behind | 19:26 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, welcome :D | 19:26 |
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| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:26 |
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| devananda | romcheg: on teh gating job, I think you're on the right track & got great feedback from mordred last week. anything to discuss here? | 19:26 |
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| romcheg | devananda: I got a task from mordred so I'm working on it | 19:27 |
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| romcheg | As soon as I have results, i'll let you know | 19:27 |
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| devananda | ack | 19:28 |
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| devananda | also, romcheg, it looks like transifex is up and working -- it's proposed a few translation patches arleady | 19:28 |
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| devananda | so everyone who wants to work on translations should be able to do that now | 19:28 |
| romcheg | I got an intern so I'm going to do more translations :) | 19:28 |
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| lucasagomes | I joined the brazilian portuguese team, but didn't do any translation yet, will do when I get some time | 19:29 |
| devananda | as far as translation patchsets go -- NobodyCam, lucasagomes -- we should eyeball the jenkins patch submissions to make sure they're sane | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/ironic/ | 19:29 |
| devananda | and then feel free to +2/+A on your own. those don't need 2 +2 | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, right | 19:29 |
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| devananda | any other comments on previous action items? | 19:30 |
| devananda | #topic testing | 19:31 |
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| devananda | my summary here is, i've talked with infra folks a few times | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | looks like several of the patches for devstack still need looking at | 19:32 |
| devananda | the goal is to get a lot of the devstack, tempest, etc, jobs -- both check and gate jobs -- into ironic's pipeline | 19:32 |
| devananda | but not add ironic to all the other project's gate pipelines yet | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | 53899 has a couple of -1 on it | 19:32 |
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| romcheg | I'm on it :) | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | the others look like we need to poke a few people to review them | 19:33 |
| devananda | once there is confidence that ironic isn't going to break the gate for all of openstack, AND ironic is able to come out of incubation, then we can enable it in the main gate pipe | 19:34 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: i'm not sure we do. some of these actually shouldn't be enabled yet | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | then should we marke them as wip so they don't land unexpectedly | 19:36 |
| romcheg | NobodyCam, devananda: Let me finish the last patch before poking around pls | 19:36 |
| devananda | romcheg: definitely. | 19:36 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: the issue is that some of those patches would add ironic to nova's gate pipeline. which we shouldn't do until ironic is part of the integrated release. | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | i will update the dib walk thru with ltest info ... | 19:37 |
| romcheg | NobodyCam: The patches that should not land now are -1ed or WIP | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg: awesome | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | thanks :) | 19:38 |
| romcheg | 48109 and 56345 won't break anything | 19:38 |
| devananda | time getting short, so i'm going to move on | 19:39 |
| devananda | #topic nova driver // deploy bindings | 19:40 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:40 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: that's you :) | 19:40 |
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| NobodyCam | ok i've been playing with the nova driver this last week | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | bigest issue is dhcp | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | the nova baremetal driver handles "out of band" dhcp for pxe style deploys itself | 19:41 |
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| NobodyCam | we will need to move that logic in to the pxe driver for ironic | 19:41 |
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| dkehn | NobodyCam: note: is comming https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50749/ | 19:42 |
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| dkehn | which does the move into the pxe.py | 19:43 |
| devananda | dkehn: taht's great, but .... | 19:43 |
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| devananda | dkehn: the problem is that not all ironic depploy drivers are going to need to set DHCP PXE options | 19:43 |
| devananda | dkehn: some may not use PXE at all :) | 19:43 |
| dkehn | understand | 19:43 |
| devananda | **some may not use DHCP at all, i mean | 19:43 |
| devananda | dkehn: is it reasonable for ironic to pass this information directly to neutron (not going through nova) ? | 19:44 |
| dkehn | understand, which would be eaiser | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | dkehn: are you thinking about doing the patch for ironic as well? | 19:45 |
| devananda | dkehn: i'm looking at the code in nova/compute/manager.py | 19:46 |
| dkehn | NobodyCam: thinking, we should talk about it, have a few other items on the plater | 19:46 |
| devananda | 1017 dhcp_options = self.driver.dhcp_options_for_instance(instance) | 19:46 |
| devananda | AIUI, there are two different IPs which will be assigned to the baremetal node | 19:47 |
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| devananda | one during the PXE deploy phase -- this is an IP outside of the tenant network | 19:47 |
| devananda | and one when the deploy is done -- this is on the tenant network | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | there is a deploy ip and and final "user" ip | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:47 |
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| devananda | dkehn: but I dont see how the nova code is removing the DHCP options for PXE booting, or moving them onto the tenant IP ? | 19:47 |
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| dkehn | at present there is only a setting it up when creation is performed via nova | 19:48 |
| dkehn | to remove we assume you are removing the interface | 19:49 |
| devananda | interface == MAC ? | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | i'm not sure Ironic can make that assumshion | 19:50 |
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| dkehn | bad choice or words once the port is removed the DHCP option ass to it are removed | 19:50 |
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| NobodyCam | his will need more time then we have here. /vote table | 19:51 |
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| devananda | yea, let's come back to this in channel later | 19:52 |
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| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:52 |
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| NobodyCam | no api/ | 19:52 |
| devananda | there's a few things left on the agenda, but i want to also open the floor | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:52 |
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| lucasagomes | oh | 19:53 |
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| devananda | we can talk about the API -- but I want folks to have a chance to jump in with other things too | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | so I've some patches upstream reworking the API for ports | 19:53 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | I'm trying to remove mostly of the complexity of validations we had before | 19:53 |
| * lucasagomes get the links | 19:54 | |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56682/ | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56984/ | 19:54 |
| devananda | less complexity is good :) | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | please take a look and give me suggestions/comments | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea | 19:54 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: will do | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | this will affect the CLI also, because I introduced node_uuid for the API objects | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | I saw a patch to remove keystone validation form vendor pass thru | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | so we don't need to use node_id = <uuid> on ports anymore | 19:56 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56612/ | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | that the one | 19:56 |
| yuriyz | yes | 19:56 |
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| NobodyCam | should we also look at node-list and node-show | 19:57 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: yes. I think yuriyz was workign on that. i haven't had time to give it a good explanation for why I want to -1 it yet | 19:57 |
| devananda | yuriyz: i dont like the potential for a public service to have no-auth like that | 19:57 |
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| yuriyz | devananda, take a look and comment | 19:58 |
| devananda | k | 19:58 |
| devananda | romcheg: you and I should talk, maybe tomorrow, about the RPC routing stuff | 19:58 |
| NobodyCam | deva ack. the reason I ask is nova appears to run some administravite tasks like finding baremetal with out context | 19:58 |
| romcheg | devananda: agree | 19:59 |
| devananda | romcheg: and how we want to handle >1 conductor, which is why we need the routing :) | 19:59 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: nova generates an admin context when it needs to do taht | 19:59 |
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| devananda | thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | cheers | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | I couldn't get that to auth thru the client. But I may have done something incorrectly.. I need to dbl check | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | TY ll | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | TY all | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 20:00 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 20:00:46 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-11-18-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-11-18-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-11-18-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| dkehn | lifeless: was assuming that the dicsussion you were referring to was in IRC (list) | 20:56 |
| lifeless | dkehn: I think you just switched channels | 20:56 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
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| mestery | hi | 21:00 |
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| gongysh | helo | 21:00 |
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| enikanorov | hi | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | armax, arosen, salv-orlando, amotoki, emagana, sumitnaiksatam, garyk: around? | 21:02 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha markmcclain | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 21:03 |
| ivar-lazzaro | hi | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. we'll start since there's now a meeting that follows each Monday | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:04 |
| armax | here | 21:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 21:04:05 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | Special agenda this week to go over priorities for Icehouse | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #info Icehouse release schedule is available | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | Icehouse-1 is rapidly approaching: December 5th | 21:05 |
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| arosen | whoops sorry i'm late. | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | Also one modification to the agenda: going to insert Plugin/Driver testing after Bug topic | 21:06 |
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| mestery | I'm just happy you made it back to the US in one piece arosen. :) | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | arosen: no worries | 21:07 |
| arosen | mestery: haha no kidding ;) | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | sounds like there is a good story somewhere | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:07 | |
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| markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | we're still carrying 3 critical bugs | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | I'm currently working on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1230407 | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1230407 in neutron "VMs can't progress through state changes because Neutron is deadlocking on it's database queries, and thus leaving networks in inconsistent states" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | I'm inclined to close: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1236439 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1236439 in ubuntu-release-notes "switch to use hostnames like nova breaks upgrades of l3-agent" [Undecided,Fix released] | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | I know mestery looked into this one | 21:09 |
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| mestery | markmcclain: Yes, was reading that one, looks like it was release noted in Ubuntu already. | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:10 |
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| markmcclain | last one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1243726 | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1243726 in neutron "tempest failure: No more IP addresses available on network" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:10 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Is that related to that other one you assigned me to look at before the Summit? | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:10 |
| * mestery can't recall the number, searching now. | 21:10 | |
| mestery | OK | 21:10 |
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| markmcclain | armax: you have 1243726 and then released it | 21:10 |
| armax | bug 1243726? | 21:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1243726 in neutron "tempest failure: No more IP addresses available on network" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243726 | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | was that intentional since the code merged? | 21:11 |
| armax | I am still looking into the root cause | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | ok.. should we put you as the assignee on the bug? | 21:12 |
| armax | the partial fix to nova was to address an infinite loop | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:12 |
| armax | ah..sorry I confused bug 1243726 for bug 1235435 | 21:13 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1243726 in neutron "tempest failure: No more IP addresses available on network" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243726 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1235435 in nova "'SubnetInUse: Unable to complete operation on subnet UUID. One or more ports have an IP allocation from this subnet.'" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235435 | 21:13 |
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| armax | I will take bug 1243726 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1243726 in neutron "tempest failure: No more IP addresses available on network" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243726 | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | armax: thanks | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | Anyone have any other critical/high bugs that are rated too low? | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | jog0 has shared a list of gate offenders | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | two at least are neutron | 21:15 |
| anteaya | that is on the agenda under tempest | 21:15 |
| anteaya | we can talk about them now if you want | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | ok, forget about it | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | let's talk at the right time | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: let's move to the next topic then | 21:15 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. we'll cover it then | 21:16 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Plugin/Driver Testing | 21:16 |
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| markmcclain | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/019219.html | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | #info 3rd Party Plugin/Driver Requirements are now in effect | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | Any questions about it? | 21:18 |
| marun | what about lb? | 21:18 |
| marun | technically not 3rd party, but we don't have integration testing in the gate at present... | 21:19 |
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| marun | (or rather, ml2+lb) | 21:19 |
| mestery | markmcclain: This applies for all plugins, not just core plugins right? | 21:19 |
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| enikanorov | mestery: for services as well | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | marun: yes we will need to add load balancing testing | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | mestery: yes | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | technically we'd first have some tests for services, and then we'll enforce them for drivers | 21:20 |
| enikanorov | markmcclain: i think marun is talking abut linux bridge | 21:20 |
| marun | enikanorov: I am | 21:20 |
| marun | I'm suggesting we should target full integration testing of all plugins, 3rd party and oss. | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | too many LBs :) | 21:20 |
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| markmcclain | marun: agreed | 21:21 |
| marun | sorry, linuxbridge then | 21:21 |
| enikanorov | but sure we'll add tests from loadbalancing (and actually started working on them already) | 21:21 |
| enikanorov | *for | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | we should be able to add a linuxbridge variant to the gate list | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | we're currently working on getting stability for I1 | 21:21 |
| mestery | Why add LB tests if it's going to be deprecated soon? | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | and then in I2 we can add another gate check | 21:21 |
| mestery | I think adding more tests which exercise the LB agent when used with ML2 would be good. | 21:21 |
| marun | mestery: I meant ml2+lb, sorry | 21:22 |
| rkukura | seems ml2+linuxbridge could run internally as part of the gate | 21:22 |
| mestery | marun: OK, cool, no worries. | 21:22 |
| marun | ml2+linuxbridge driver, sorry | 21:22 |
| marun | rkukura: we need separate jobs, is all. that's my point. | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | rkukura: right it can be run as one of the gate checks | 21:22 |
| marun | anyway, moving on | 21:22 |
| marun | didn't mean to derail | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | marun: no worries | 21:22 |
| pcm_ | Is the assumption that new core features will be having tests as well (e.g. VPNaaS)? | 21:22 |
| mestery | marun: Not derail, that's a good topic IMHO. | 21:22 |
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| markmcclain | pcm_: yes | 21:23 |
| pcm_ | for icehouse-2? | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | pcm_: the scenarios should probably land by icehouse-1, if possible | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | but I agree it seems not that easy | 21:23 |
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| salv-orlando | and possibly not super-high priority | 21:23 |
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| marun | One more thing... | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | I'd say the screnarios for VPNaaS should follow us getting the core tests stable | 21:24 |
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| markmcclain | s/VPNaaS/L3 Services/ | 21:24 |
| pcm_ | I'll want to do vendor service, so wondering if there will be core there as reference. | 21:25 |
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| marun | pcm_: no mention in the email, but vendors should be participating in creation of representative integration tests. | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | ++ | 21:25 |
| marun | pcm_: It shouldn't all be on the opensource side of things. | 21:25 |
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| enikanorov | pcm_: i guess the simple way is to start with API tests for the service, if there's none | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | the tests are community work item | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | that we'll all need to contribute | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | marun: what was the other item you had? | 21:26 |
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| marun | markmcclain: sorry, the bit about vendor participation in test creation was it | 21:27 |
| pcm_ | markmcclain: gotcha. | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | marun: thanks for making sure that was raised | 21:27 |
| marun | :) | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | I heard no comment/concern on the integration testing policy draft. Can we consider it a done deal? | 21:27 |
| * marun keeps beating the dead horse | 21:28 | |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:28 |
| * mestery assumed it was a done deal. :) | 21:28 | |
| salv-orlando | ok so it's up to the PTL to cast it in the meeting minutes. | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | #info 3rd Party Plugin/Driver Test Requirements in effect | 21:29 |
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| * mestery notes the date and time. :) | 21:29 | |
| gongysh | what is 3rd party plugin/Driver? ml2+linux bridge is third party plugin/driver? | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: any plugin or driver that is not the reference implementation for Neutron | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | includes vendor plugins/drivers | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | ML2+Linuxbridge is something we maintain that we'll need to add a gate job for | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | #topic Icehouse Project Plan | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | I'm sure the summit was a whirlwind for everyone, so I wanted to map out the high level plan for this cycle | 21:32 |
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| markmcclain | Several sessions and conference talks really upon a few critical areas we need to address this cycle: | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | Stability, Testing, and Parity | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | These are important within our community and even more so outside of our community | 21:34 |
| jog0 | markmcclain: nova is re-evaulating nova-network at icehouse-2 or Jan 23rd | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | jog0: good to know | 21:34 |
| jog0 | so ideally these would be goals for milestone 2 as well | 21:35 |
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| markmcclain | yeah we certainly have a lot of work to get done | 21:35 |
| markmcclain | I've mapped out 10 or so high level area for us to work on this cycle: | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronIcehouseProjectPlan | 21:36 |
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| markmcclain | The first 5 all work address stability, testing, and parity | 21:37 |
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| mestery | markmcclain: This is a very good high level plan, nice work. | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | I'll be working with of the subteam leads to fill in the details for there subteam to make sure we're working towards the main objectives | 21:39 |
| geoffarnold | Clarifying: (7) and (8) delivering in Icehouse, (9) and (10) post-Icehouse? | 21:39 |
| geoffarnold | Otherwise this is ambiguous as an "Icehouse plan" | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | geoffarnold: so on 7 I expect there will be Icehouse deliverables | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | they team needs to distill out into clearer blueprints so that we can better track progress | 21:41 |
| anteaya | 19 minutes of meeting time remaining | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | 8) I expect the teams will be able to improve testing in their area and deliver the new features listed | 21:41 |
| iwamoto | no service-chain-insertion in Icehouse? | 21:41 |
| geoffarnold | I'd prefer it if the plan explicitly called out those areas where there are Icehouse deliverables (by I-2, right?) and those that are explicitly out of scope for Icehouse integration | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | 9) are features that may or may not make the cut because they involve a bit of speculative work or require legal clearances to release code | 21:42 |
| marun | fyi, i've posted a link to that etherpad that outlines a preliminary plan for the parity effort from beagles (I don't see him on here) | 21:42 |
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| salv-orlando | thanks marun. I think we can shift the discussion of the plan to etherpad/mailing list given that we all agree at least on priorities for items 1-7? | 21:43 |
| geoffarnold | I'm unhappy about a "may or may not make the cut" in a release cycle focussed on stability | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | the 10 are subteams that need to keep working with an eye towards J because there's consensus on a vague direction but not on how to do implement | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | geoffarnold: all of the items in that bucket are new features | 21:43 |
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| marun | salv-orlando: +1 | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | stability needs to focus on what we have today as the new features are not drop in replacements | 21:44 |
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| markmcclain | I'll be sending a message to mailing list and we can discuss further | 21:44 |
| jog0 | markmcclain: this sounds like a really ambitious list, I am concerned the last 5 will reduce the amount of work being done on the first 5 | 21:45 |
| mestery | Only other concern I have is new subteam work being higher priority than existing subteam work, but the order may not matter there. | 21:45 |
| geoffarnold | Can we also call out all API changes as early as possible? | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | jog0: that's why I listed the others first as dev and review resources should be focused on 1-4 | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | -5 | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | Can I use the 'shiny' adjective? | 21:46 |
| jog0 | markmcclain: what about just dropping some of the bottom ones until after I-2? | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | I would say 1-6 are must have; 7 and 8 are expected new features due to community request; 9 and 10 are the shiny new? | 21:47 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: +1 to your organization thought. | 21:47 |
| jog0 | salv-orlando: makes sense to me, although 8 sounds big | 21:47 |
| jog0 | and could distact from 106 | 21:48 |
| jog0 | 1-6* | 21:48 |
| marun | how about saying the subteams should focus on bugfix/parity stuff only until 1-5 are deemed ready? | 21:48 |
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| markmcclain | jog0: most the blueprints for 8+ will be targets for I3 or J depending the speed of the everything elese | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | jog0: each sub-item of 8 has a sub team of at least 3 devs independently from the devs busy on core stuff (and btw ml2 is core stuff) | 21:48 |
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| jog0 | markmcclain: cool, thanks for the clarification | 21:48 |
| jog0 | marun: ++ | 21:48 |
| marun | 990495 | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | ok.. we've got 10mins and anteaya has a lots of stuff to cover | 21:49 |
| amotoki | I am not sure what 4) "nova-neutron integration" covers. is it related to nova-network deprecation? | 21:49 |
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| salv-orlando | amotoki: nova/network/neutronv2/api.py | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: nova-parity will cover the items to deprecate nova-net | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | or the module from hell | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | nova-neutron integration is the pain and performance points in the integration between the systems | 21:50 |
| amotoki | got it. | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | I'll send out the email and we can resume on ML | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | #topic Neutron Tempest | 21:50 |
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| anteaya | okay | 21:50 |
| anteaya | starting with the bugs that are causing rechecks | 21:51 |
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| anteaya | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1224001 | 21:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1224001 in neutron "test_network_basic_ops fails waiting for network to become available" [Critical,Fix released] | 21:51 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: how is this one going? | 21:51 |
| salv-orlando | well, let's start by reopening it. | 21:51 |
| salv-orlando | it should have never been marked as fix released. | 21:51 |
| anteaya | okay, let's do that | 21:52 |
| salv-orlando | The manifestation is different from the one that originally caused the high number of failures. From the logs I clearly see the floating IP being configured. | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | I've reopened | 21:52 |
| anteaya | thank you | 21:52 |
| anteaya | anything more on this one now? | 21:52 |
| anteaya | or shall i move on? | 21:52 |
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| salv-orlando | So I guess the failure in connectivity is due to the vm not booting, but I did not find a trace in the logs for that | 21:53 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: what more do you need to address this bug? | 21:53 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: time? | 21:53 |
| anteaya | okay | 21:53 |
| anteaya | let's talk next week, next | 21:53 |
| anteaya | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1251448 | 21:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1251448 in neutron "BadRequest: Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific. " [High,New] | 21:53 |
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| anteaya | again salv-orlando | 21:53 |
| anteaya | thoughts on this one? | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | investigating this currently. The problem is that some tempest tests fail to delete a network under some circumstances, leading with multiple networks with the same name. | 21:54 |
| anteaya | anything you need to help you with this one? | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | I can fix tempest for this, but the real issue is understanding why in some cases the network does not get deleted. | 21:54 |
| marun | hmmm, that seems like a dumb bug. should be easy to always use ids in tempest | 21:54 |
| anteaya | also can you delegate this one to anyone? | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | marun: correct. This would be a tempest fix - an easy one. | 21:55 |
| anteaya | marun: are you able to help salv-orlando with this one? | 21:55 |
| anteaya | since he has the other one as well? | 21:55 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: When I run tempest tests locally I consistently have leftover networks, ports, subnets, and routers. Not sure if it's related or not. | 21:55 |
| rkukura | not sure masking the underlying issue is the best way forward | 21:55 |
| marun | anteaya: I can take it | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | But there's an underlying neutron issue - the networks from time to time do not get deleted (remember we still do not have parallel testing so if there are two nets with the same name it's weird) | 21:55 |
| anteaya | marun: great thanks | 21:55 |
| salv-orlando | marun - all yours then | 21:55 |
| marun | salv-orlando: unless you want to keep it? | 21:56 |
| anteaya | 5 minutes left, can I cover the other bugs? | 21:56 |
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| enikanorov | salv-orlando: i wonder if we temporarily add db uniq constraint for the network name | 21:56 |
| enikanorov | just for catching purposes | 21:56 |
| enikanorov | that might help | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | enikanorov: names are not unique | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov: idk frankly | 21:56 |
| enikanorov | right | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | can change | 21:56 |
| anteaya | next bug? | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | *can't change that without pain for people | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | i say next bug | 21:57 |
| anteaya | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1235435 | 21:57 |
| marun | enikanorov: -1, i'd say we fix the symptom and worry about the root cause separately | 21:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1235435 in nova "'SubnetInUse: Unable to complete operation on subnet UUID. One or more ports have an IP allocation from this subnet.'" [Medium,Fix committed] | 21:57 |
| anteaya | incomplete and unassigned for neutron | 21:57 |
| enikanorov | marun: that was suggestion how to catch it, not how to fix it | 21:57 |
| armax | is this one still showing up? | 21:57 |
| anteaya | tests are failing | 21:57 |
| marun | enikanorov: fair enough | 21:57 |
| anteaya | yes | 21:57 |
| armax | cool, can you point me to them, plz? | 21:58 |
| anteaya | see the log stash link at teh bottom of the bug report | 21:58 |
| armax | k | 21:58 |
| anteaya | last 2 | 21:58 |
| anteaya | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1249065 | 21:58 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1249065 in nova "Tempest failure: tempest/scenario/test_snapshot_pattern.py" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:58 |
| anteaya | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1251784 | 21:58 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1251784 in nova "nova+neutron scheduling error: Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Undecided,New] | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | looks like salv-orlando is triaging this one | 21:59 |
| anteaya | both unassigned | 21:59 |
| anteaya | I'm out of time, thanks | 21:59 |
| anteaya | more info on the agenda | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | I am triaging 1249065 but no progress so far | 21:59 |
| markmcclain | Sorry we ran short on time | 22:00 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: can you delegate? | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | anteaya posted lots of good info so make sure to read | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | I want to highlight a few things: | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | anteaya: I will reassign in the next few hours. | 22:00 |
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| anteaya | salv-orlando: thanks | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | Code sprint in Montreal in January.. please let her know if you're interested | 22:00 |
| marun | isn't 1251784 a duplicate? | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | marun: you're referring to bug 1211915? | 22:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211915 in neutron/havana "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211915 | 22:01 |
| marun | salv-orlando: ye | 22:01 |
| marun | s | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | jog0 said it's a different manifestation; perhaps different root cause. | 22:01 |
| emagana | sorry, I missed the meeting, will catch up with the minutes | 22:01 |
| marun | salv-orlando: ah, ok | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | Ok talk to everyone on IRC and ML and have a great week | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 22:03:40 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-11-18-21.04.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-11-18-21.04.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-11-18-21.04.log.html | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | adieuuuuuuuuuuu | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | bye | 22:03 |
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| armax | bye | 22:04 |
| marun | caio! | 22:04 |
| amotoki | bye! | 22:05 |
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| arosen | bye. | 22:05 |
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| Swami | hi all | 22:08 |
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| safchain | hi | 22:09 |
| Swami | #startmeeting Distributed Virtual Router | 22:09 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 18 22:09:11 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:09 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:09 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 22:09 |
| Swami | Hi safchain | 22:09 |
| safchain | Hi Swami | 22:09 |
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| Swami | #agenda | 22:10 |
| EmilienM | hey | 22:11 |
| Swami | Distributed Virtual Router use case discussion | 22:11 |
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| safchain | finally what is the case you want to address, east-west or north-south, both ? | 22:13 |
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| gongysh | hi | 22:14 |
| EmilienM | Swami: still here ? | 22:15 |
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| gongysh | EmilienM: what about the HA of L3? | 22:16 |
| gongysh | have you started? | 22:17 |
| haleyb | i'll see if i can ping swami | 22:17 |
| safchain | gongysh, Hi, we already have a poc for this feature | 22:18 |
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| gongysh | safchain: I know, i got your poc code. | 22:18 |
| EmilienM | gongysh: safchain: i think all patches will be pushed for I-1 maybe | 22:18 |
| Swami1 | hi | 22:18 |
| gongysh | hi, welcome back | 22:19 |
| Swami1 | I got disconnected I could not see any of your messages | 22:19 |
| matrohon | hi | 22:19 |
| Swami1 | Loggin back in | 22:19 |
| Swami1 | did I miss anything | 22:19 |
| gongysh | <Swami> #agenda | 22:19 |
| gongysh | <EmilienM> hey | 22:19 |
| gongysh | <Swami> Distributed Virtual Router use case discussion | 22:19 |
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| gongysh | <safchain> finally what is the case you want to address, east-west or north-south, both ? | 22:19 |
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| vipul | yes i am :D | 22:20 |
| Swami1 | gongysh: I would like to address both the use cases | 22:20 |
| Swami1 | east-west and north-south | 22:20 |
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| matrohon | markmclain said earlier that improvment of the reliability is a must have for icehouse | 22:22 |
| matrohon | so improving l3-agent HA has to be done quickly | 22:23 |
| matrohon | before I2, to deprecate nova-network | 22:23 |
| gongysh | Swami1: I am sorry I have not read about your BP's design. | 22:23 |
| matrohon | swami, do you plan to address L3-agent HA with DVR? | 22:24 |
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| Swami | reconnected | 22:25 |
| Swami | Have some network issues | 22:25 |
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| Swami | #topic Meeting Timing | 22:25 |
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| gongysh | HA is one, but scalability is also an actual problem for deployment. I think the distributed virtual router is mainly for this purpose. | 22:26 |
| Swami | Is everyone OK with the meeting timeslot | 22:26 |
| gongysh | I am ok for it. | 22:26 |
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| haleyb | fine with me | 22:27 |
| Swami | gongysh: you had a code for the Distributed Virtual Router | 22:27 |
| gongysh | not yet. do u have? | 22:27 |
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| Swami | There were some sub team members who are in a different time zone so I thought that we might either need to have two meetings | 22:28 |
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| Swami | One early meeting and one late meeting | 22:28 |
| gongysh | agreed | 22:29 |
| safchain | agreed | 22:29 |
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| Swami | hi | 22:33 |
| safchain | hi | 22:33 |
| Swami | Sorry my connection has dropped again | 22:34 |
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| Swami | Will early morning time slots work for you all | 22:35 |
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| safchain | Swami, time utc ? | 22:36 |
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| Swami | around 7.00a.m PDT | 22:39 |
| gongysh | time for me is ok after the neutron meeting. | 22:40 |
| Swami | Plan is to have two meetings, this timeslot will still be there and we can use the morning slot to accomodate others | 22:41 |
| matrohon | 7.00a.m PDT is ok for eurpeans team | 22:41 |
| safchain | Swami, +1 for 7.00a.m PDT | 22:41 |
| haleyb | so that's 15:00 UTC, which works for me too | 22:42 |
| Swami | gongysh: you had a Distributed Virtual Router implementation, does it support East West or North South | 22:42 |
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| gongysh | Swami: I don't have. | 22:43 |
| Swami | safchain: thanks | 22:43 |
| Swami | gongysh: Sorry I thought you had one | 22:43 |
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| safchain | Swami, do you have any design for north-south or do we need to design it ? | 22:44 |
| ocp_ | what would be covered in 2 meetings, are they different topics? | 22:44 |
| Swami | gongysh: would you like to contribute for the DVR and if so what is your priority - East West or North South | 22:44 |
| Swami | ocp_: I am planning to have the same agenda on both topics and it also depends on the sub team activities | 22:45 |
| Swami | If we have two sub teams working on two different use cases then we can have meeting specific to the use cases | 22:46 |
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| gongysh | East West if I have to choose. | 22:46 |
| Swami | Otherwise we can address the same agenda | 22:46 |
| Swami | safchain: For the north-south I don't have one, but we need to design one as a team | 22:47 |
| Swami | safchain: Do you have any ideas on the north-south | 22:47 |
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| safchain | Swami, for the dvr not yet, for HA we have the BP with vrrp/conntrackd | 22:48 |
| Swami | safchain: thanks | 22:48 |
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| haleyb | Swami: we can always push a router namespace down to each compute node | 22:49 |
| Swami | haleyb: agreed | 22:49 |
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| Swami | we need to put together a blueprint or a wiki for the North South | 22:49 |
| Swami | by next couple of weeks we need to finalize the blueprint/wiki for the north South | 22:51 |
| Swami | I have an idea, I will try to capture it and start the Wiki | 22:52 |
| matrohon | we have to keep on eye on agent refactoring work | 22:52 |
| matrohon | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NeutronIcehouseProjectPlan | 22:52 |
| Swami | If anyone else have any ideas on the North-South please feel free to capture it in a Wiki or blueprint and then we can refine it. | 22:53 |
| matrohon | item number 3 | 22:53 |
| Swami | matrohon: what is item number 3 | 22:54 |
| safchain | Swami, wouldn't be better to open gdoc, maybe better to capture, to exchange idea together ? | 22:54 |
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| matrohon | as i understood during the summit, there is a long term job for remodeling the agent, and to distributed netwok fiunctios at the edge | 22:55 |
| Swami | safchain: Yes that would be good | 22:55 |
| matrohon | talked about it with nati | 22:55 |
| matrohon | and isaku | 22:55 |
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| matrohon | swami : item number 3 in the etherpad | 22:56 |
| Swami | matrohon: I will check the priority for Icehouse with Mark McClain and let you know | 22:56 |
| safchain | matrohon, yes do know if there is a BP ? | 22:56 |
| matrohon | matrohon : checking | 22:57 |
| safchain | matrohon, I don't remember | 22:57 |
| matrohon | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-agent-consolication | 22:57 |
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| Swami | In any case our design for the DVR North South should include feedback from the l3-agent-consolidation team and we can check with them | 23:00 |
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| matrohon | actually the target for neutren is to have modular agent : | 23:03 |
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| Swami | Google Doc created for DVR North South Discussion | 23:03 |
| matrohon | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ModularAgent | 23:03 |
| Swami | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iXMAyVMf42FTahExmGdYNGOBFyeA4e74sAO3pvr_RjA/edit?usp=sharing | 23:03 |
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| Swami | please include your info in the document and we can discuss next week | 23:03 |
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| safchain | Swami, it seems that i'm not allowed to edit the gdoc | 23:04 |
| Swami | I will make is public | 23:05 |
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| matrohon | but east-west could be a great first step for DVR | 23:05 |
| matrohon | and most of us seems more interested by the use case first | 23:05 |
| Swami | safchain: Made it public, go ahead and add your input to the doc and we can review the doc next week. | 23:06 |
| matrohon | am I wrong? | 23:06 |
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| Swami | Meanwhile I will also update the doc on my ideas for the North South | 23:06 |
| safchain | Swami, ok thx | 23:06 |
| Swami | matrohon: Yes you are right East west is the first priority. | 23:06 |
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| Swami | But I was also asked to look for sub team members who are interested in the north south | 23:07 |
| Swami | There are enough members right now interested in north south and so we are planning to discuss that in parallel | 23:07 |
| Swami | So we are running out of time | 23:08 |
| matrohon | swami : ok | 23:08 |
| safchain | Swami, matrohon agree with that, east-west first, design north-south in parallel | 23:08 |
| Swami | Just to recapture what we stated today, work on the north-south design, google doc created | 23:09 |
| Swami | Create another meeting slot for people from other timezone to attend, since this would be too late for them | 23:09 |
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| Swami | if you have any other ideas or questions send me a mail and don't wait for the next meeting | 23:10 |
| safchain | Swami, thank you for the new time slot | 23:10 |
| matrohon | Swami : thanks | 23:10 |
| Swami | Sorry for the network interruption | 23:10 |
| Swami | Thank you all | 23:10 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 23:10 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 18 23:10:49 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-11-18-22.09.html | 23:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-11-18-22.09.txt | 23:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-11-18-22.09.log.html | 23:10 |
| Swami | bye | 23:11 |
| safchain | Swami, thx, bye | 23:11 |
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