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| devananda | hi all! | 19:00 |
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| JoeHazzers | hey :D | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 19:00 |
| romcheg | o/ | 19:01 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 29 19:01:10 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
| devananda | #chair NobodyCam | 19:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:01 |
| devananda | adding nobodycam to chair as I'm in Redding, tethered on my cell... | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | big aganda today | 19:01 |
| jog0 | o/ | 19:01 |
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| devananda | ~600ms ping, so i might drop | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | hey | 19:01 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 19:02 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:02 |
| devananda | agenda ^^ | 19:02 |
| devananda | so, let's run down the agenda :) | 19:02 |
| devananda | #topic testing | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:03 | |
| romcheg | Oh, that's for me | 19:03 |
| devananda | romcheg: i think ... yep :) | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | some really nice patches around this this week | 19:03 |
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| romcheg | So I basically did some research and have some code that is powered by a set of dirty hacks but it deploys ironic to devstack | 19:04 |
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| devananda | romcheg: sweet! think it'll be ready for a review soon? | 19:04 |
| romcheg | I'm going to vanish it a little bit and publish in a day or two | 19:05 |
| devananda | (or even a draft so others can start to poke at it) | 19:05 |
| romcheg | Yes, that will be a WIP | 19:05 |
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| devananda | cool :) | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | awsome | 19:05 |
| devananda | also FYI for folks, yuriy add some more db tests | 19:05 |
| romcheg | Currently it works exclusively on my VM so I cannot publish it :) | 19:05 |
| devananda | so migrations are now tested and any new db change must have tests added | 19:06 |
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| lucasagomes | great | 19:06 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: want to talk about your dib element now? it's related to testing ;) | 19:07 |
| romcheg | I spoke to him today and he said he was going to add some opportunistic tests as well | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | I can | 19:07 |
| romcheg | *to port those tests from nova | 19:07 |
| devananda | romcheg: i saw the pg/mysql opportunistic tests and merged it already :) | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | I have been using my ironic dib element to look into the stevedore issue | 19:08 |
| romcheg | devananda: ah, great! | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | for those that don't know we get a error "IronicException: Failed to load driver fake." | 19:08 |
| JoeHazzers | how ironic | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | seems to be a stevedore issue | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | in testing we mox the object so it passes | 19:09 |
| devananda | so, romcheg, you may get the same error in devstack if you attempt to PATCH a node, since that will cause the conductor to load the node driver | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | here is the latest dump I have: http://paste.openstack.org/show/36uYgU0f5MhvbThAdmud/ | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | but the good news it rpc is working | 19:11 |
| romcheg | devananda: I will keep that in mind thanks | 19:11 |
| devananda | #action NobodyCam to file a bug in ironic rconductor not able to load drivers | 19:12 |
| * devananda delegates :) | 19:12 | |
| * NobodyCam will do | 19:12 | |
| devananda | any other questions/concerns about testing? | 19:12 |
| devananda | k, moving on | 19:12 |
| devananda | #topic keystone | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "keystone (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:13 | |
| devananda | this was left open from last meeting | 19:13 |
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| devananda | anyone have further insight into the question | 19:13 |
| romcheg | There are some bad news | 19:13 |
| devananda | ? | 19:13 |
| romcheg | Or at least not so good ones | 19:13 |
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| romcheg | I'm working on supporting keystone domains in ironic | 19:14 |
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| romcheg | However, I was not able to log in to keystone under a domain administrator to test the things. | 19:14 |
| romcheg | I spoke to some guys who are familiar to keystone, but the problem is not solved yet. | 19:15 |
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| devananda | romcheg: have you been in touch witht he keystone devs? | 19:15 |
| devananda | ah, ok | 19:15 |
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| romcheg | So the most of the code in ironic is ready. | 19:15 |
| devananda | when we have cross project dependencies like that | 19:15 |
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| romcheg | I will try to re-configure my setup tomorrow and try it again. | 19:16 |
| devananda | er, maybe i misread. are you waiting on keystone changes? | 19:16 |
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| romcheg | It's either a bug in keystone or misconfiguration of keystone in devstack | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | is there a keystone bug for the domian admin issue already | 19:17 |
| jog0 | romcheg: are we the frist project to try using domains? | 19:17 |
| romcheg | I still have not found that out yet | 19:18 |
| romcheg | jog0: nova seems to use V3 api | 19:18 |
| romcheg | do not know about domains | 19:18 |
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| jog0 | romcheg: so that may be the issue, we are first to use domains | 19:18 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg: can you check for existing bug and if not file one? | 19:19 |
| romcheg | NobodyCam: will do that. | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:20 |
| devananda | #action romcheg to file bug & investigate keystone domains | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | want a action line | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | oh | 19:20 |
| devananda | :p | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:20 |
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| devananda | moving on | 19:20 |
| devananda | #topic PXE drivr | 19:20 |
| romcheg | ok | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PXE drivr (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:20 | |
| devananda | #topic PXE driver | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PXE driver (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:20 | |
| devananda | GheRivero: hi! it looked like it was about to be merged, and then ... ? | 19:21 |
| devananda | it == the oslo image utils patch | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | link? | 19:21 |
| devananda | sec | 19:21 |
| devananda | s/oslo/python-g;aceclient | 19:21 |
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| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/33327 | 19:22 |
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| devananda | flaper87 +2'd it and then someone else -1'd | 19:22 |
| devananda | also, I haven't gotten around to testing GheRivero's branch in a tripleo env yet | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | eddie does bring up some good points | 19:24 |
| devananda | that'll probably be the first thing i do when NobodyCam has the dib element all squared away (and i'm back from trips) | 19:24 |
| devananda | it seems like GheRivero isn't here, so unless anyone else has comments on either his glancecleint or pxe driver patches... let's move on | 19:25 |
| * devananda gives the room a minute | 19:25 | |
| * NobodyCam notes that element sould work now for testing | 19:25 | |
| NobodyCam | https://github.com/NoBodyCam/ironic-element | 19:26 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: # link it pls :) | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://github.com/NoBodyCam/ironic-element | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:26 |
| devananda | :) | 19:26 |
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| devananda | k, moving on | 19:27 |
| devananda | #topic API | 19:27 |
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| devananda | the big topic! and we still have 30 minutes left, hehe | 19:27 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: hi! you've been doing a lot on the api -- thanks! | 19:27 |
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| lucasagomes | :) | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | np | 19:27 |
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| devananda | want to give an update of what's landed, what needs review, what's blocking you? | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | right | 19:28 |
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| lucasagomes | so self links to the resources landed last week | 19:28 |
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| lucasagomes | now I'm working in adding pagination to the collections | 19:29 |
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| lucasagomes | we still need patches to expose the nested resources | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | no blockers in the moment | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | but some decisions still needs to be made | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | for e.g the PATCH vs PUT thing | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | should we stick and use only one method to make updates at least for the first review? (using only PUT for e.g) | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | stick to one method to do update only* | 19:30 |
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| devananda | was the argument against PATCH that the metalanguage would be complex to implement? | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | we have patch in who | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | *now | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea, and also we need to decide de format | 19:31 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yes, but apparently I implemented it not according to spec | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | ahh | 19:32 |
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| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-json-patch-10 | 19:32 |
| devananda | I think it's reasonable for our API to be consistent with other service APIs, at least in terms of how we implement basic commands | 19:33 |
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| devananda | this is probably worth a mailing list thread to sort out | 19:33 |
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| devananda | i can probably do taht tonight, unless someone else wants to | 19:34 |
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| devananda | k | 19:35 |
| devananda | #action devananda to pose API PUT vs PATCh question on -dev ML | 19:35 |
| lucasagomes | also, our spec is not aligned with the implementation | 19:35 |
| lucasagomes | I will write a patch to update it soon | 19:35 |
| devananda | great, thanks! | 19:35 |
| devananda | what about parameter name rewrite / mapping? | 19:36 |
| devananda | eg, internal id == external uuid | 19:36 |
| devananda | do we really care about that? | 19:36 |
| devananda | or should we just updte the spec and expose uuid | 19:36 |
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| devananda | woops, i typo'd -- spec says internal uuid == external id. I'm suggesting we just use uuid all the way through. | 19:37 |
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| lucasagomes | yea, nowadays you can use both, but the returns will always use uuids | 19:38 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: +1 for consisteny | 19:38 |
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| lucasagomes | I'm happy changing it to use uuid only | 19:38 |
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| devananda | ack. might as well work that in the spec change when you do it :) | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | cool | 19:39 |
| devananda | i have no update on the wsme version bump // status return codes issue | 19:39 |
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| devananda | anyone have more API questions/comments? | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | yea it's a problem... we should talk to dhellman and see when will be the next wsme realease | 19:40 |
| * dhellmann is lurking | 19:40 | |
| devananda | hi! | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | :D | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | hi! | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | hey | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | so, wsme | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | there are 2 things going on | 19:40 |
| dhellmann | first, some of the fixes that are included in trunk now only work with pecan, and Christophe wants some level of feature parity before doing a release | 19:41 |
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| dhellmann | second, we are working out the details of moving wsme to stackforge (although that doesn't hold up the release) | 19:41 |
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| devananda | stackforge++ | 19:41 |
| dhellmann | #link https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/python-wsme/TRLfq-GQBhg | 19:42 |
| dhellmann | that's the discussion about moving ahead with another release | 19:42 |
| devananda | hmm | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | does that link work for you guys, or is it somehow encoded for me? | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | looks weird | 19:43 |
| devananda | proper handling of status codes, both for errors and non-error-but-non-default is going to be important | 19:43 |
| devananda | link worked for me | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | cool | 19:43 |
| devananda | most of nova->ironic interaction will be in updating certain fields | 19:44 |
| * NobodyCam work for me | 19:44 | |
| devananda | some will be immediate ERROR/SUCCESS responses | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | *works | 19:44 |
| devananda | some will yield 202 INPROGRESS | 19:44 |
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| dhellmann | makes sense | 19:44 |
| dhellmann | and that doesn't sound like an exception | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | 15 minutes | 19:45 |
| devananda | right | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | ok | 19:45 |
| dhellmann | christophe is looking for input on an API for that, so maybe you have some? | 19:45 |
| * dhellmann hasn't given that any special thought, yet | 19:45 | |
| devananda | i hadn't either -- beyond playing with the Response obj enough to realize it didn't work :( | 19:45 |
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| devananda | it seemed like a reasonable approach though | 19:46 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it seems like it ought to | 19:46 |
| devananda | response.obj = thing | 19:46 |
| devananda | response.status = int | 19:46 |
| devananda | return response | 19:46 |
| * dhellmann nods | 19:46 | |
| dhellmann | I don't want to take up the whole meeting with debugging that. Maybe post to the WSME list and we can work it out there? | 19:47 |
| devananda | k, i'll reply to that thread (tonight) | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 19:47 |
| devananda | #action devananda to post to WSME list re: Response objects | 19:47 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:47 |
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| dhellmann | and for now, go ahead and send pull requests to the wsme hg repo | 19:47 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | there are some tricky bits to moving it that may make it take a little while | 19:47 |
| devananda | gotcha | 19:47 |
| dhellmann | mostly around the test configurations, so I don't want to just break them | 19:48 |
| devananda | if anyone wants to dig into fixing wsme's response object ... ^ :) | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | is it wsme's object, or working with the combination of pecan/wsme? | 19:48 |
| devananda | dhellmann: link? i actally haven't looked for wsme's upstream before | 19:48 |
| devananda | dunno - haven't dug into it | 19:48 |
| dhellmann | #link https://bitbucket.org/cdevienne/wsme/ | 19:48 |
| devananda | thanks | 19:49 |
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| dhellmann | np | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | so how about some stevedore talk | 19:50 |
| devananda | ah! another question for dhellmann then ;) | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | from my poking we have a issue here https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/openstack/common/rpc/dispatcher.py#L129-178 | 19:51 |
| dhellmann | oh? | 19:52 |
| devananda | so we've found that, outside of unit tests, stevedore has been failing to load our drivers for a little while | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | :-/ | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | what are the symptoms? | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | here is a really bad log | 19:52 |
| dhellmann | tracebacks? | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | http://paste.openstack.org/show/36uYgU0f5MhvbThAdmud/ | 19:52 |
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| NobodyCam | note any thing with cjk was hacked in by /me | 19:53 |
| dhellmann | stevedore should be logging an exception if it tries to import something and fails | 19:54 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: I think you'll find this also in the traceack | 19:54 |
| NobodyCam | where | 19:54 |
| devananda | https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/conductor/resource_manager.py#L64 | 19:54 |
| devananda | dhellmann: it's raising an exception, yes | 19:54 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok, so at least it's not eating the error | 19:54 |
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| dhellmann | well, no, the error in that log is a key error from trying to use the driver after it should be loaded | 19:55 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yea, that paste matches the resource_manager link i just pasted | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | so there should be a traceback earlier in the log based on https://github.com/dreamhost/stevedore/blob/master/stevedore/extension.py#L96 | 19:55 |
| devananda | oooh | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | if you're not seeing that, then there's something wrong with the logging setup | 19:55 |
| devananda | or it's not even trying to load it | 19:55 |
| dhellmann | true | 19:55 |
| devananda | dhellmann: i (was?) doing on-demand loading | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | that the full conductor log | 19:55 |
| devananda | or thought i was :) | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | there is a api log | 19:56 |
| dhellmann | devananda: you may be | 19:56 |
| * dhellmann reads a bit | 19:56 | |
| NobodyCam | show the request sent and error racieved back | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | *shows | 19:56 |
| devananda | it's a https://github.com/dreamhost/stevedore/blob/master/stevedore/dispatch.py#L77 | 19:56 |
| devananda | NameDispatchExtensionManager | 19:57 |
| dhellmann | devananda: what keys does the _driver_factory have? did it find anything? | 19:57 |
| GheRivero | o/ | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | hey GheRivero | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | dhellmann: I'm not sure its finding anything at all | 19:57 |
| devananda | dhellmann: i dont have a test in front of me... | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | devananda: to be clear, the manager is going to import the code when it is instantiated and invoke_on_load means it is going to "call" the thing it gets from load() at the same time | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | so the "on demand" bit is really just getting something out of a dictionary | 19:58 |
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| GheRivero | jit... image tools almos merged. some positive core reviews +1 and a couple of small bits missing. To be done in the next hours. meanwhile, i'll update the image-tools ironic branch just in case | 19:58 |
| dhellmann | it will log what it finds at debug level (https://github.com/dreamhost/stevedore/blob/master/stevedore/extension.py#L84) | 19:59 |
| devananda | sounds like we need to dump NodeManager._driver_factory inside that try: block | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | yep | 19:59 |
| devananda | dhellmann: NodeManager is instantiated on demand :) | 19:59 |
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| devananda | let's move to #openstack-ironic, our time here is up | 19:59 |
| devananda | thanks everyone!! | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | 1 minute | 19:59 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | but the extension manager is a class attribute according to https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/conductor/resource_manager.py | 19:59 |
| dhellmann | which means it is instantiated when the class is read, on import | 19:59 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 19:59:58 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-29-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-29-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-07-29-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
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| SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 29 20:01:26 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | #topic roll call | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:01 | |
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| NobodyCam | o/ | 20:01 |
| jog0 | o/ | 20:02 |
| SpamapS | welcome all :) | 20:02 |
| NobodyCam | just the three of us? | 20:02 |
| derekh | hi | 20:02 |
| SpamapS | lifeless is unavailable today so I'll be facilitating | 20:02 |
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| dkehn | hi | 20:02 |
| SpamapS | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 20:03 |
| SpamapS | to the agenda.. | 20:03 |
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| SpamapS | #topic bugs | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:03 | |
| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 20:03 |
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| SpamapS | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 20:03 |
| SpamapS | bug 1182249 and bug 1183223 are both kind of waiting for an end-to-end evaluation by me once I've replaced cfn-hup with os-collect-config | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1182249 in tripleo "quantum configuration is overly hardcoded" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182249 | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1183223 in tripleo "nova-compute.yaml missing parameters" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183223 | 20:04 |
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| SpamapS | which is bug 1202322 | 20:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202322 in tripleo "cfn-hup restarts everything every 5 minutes because of heat-localip" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202322 | 20:04 |
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| SpamapS | ah bug 1200201 is actuall Fix Released , since we landed ORC-REFACTOR to not manage os-refresh-config in an upstart job | 20:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1200201 in tripleo "undercloud: nova-bm-dnsmasq not running after reboot" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1200201 | 20:06 |
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| SpamapS | the POC: bugs are all things we can do to make currently running tripleo's better (of which I'm only aware of one.. :) | 20:07 |
| SpamapS | derekh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1202612 looks Fix Released. No? | 20:08 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202612 in diskimage-builder "during ramdisk-image-create most of /dev is removed" [Critical,Triaged] | 20:08 |
| SpamapS | perhaps openstack hudson doesn't have enough privileges on diskimage-builder? | 20:09 |
| SpamapS | Ah yeah, just need to add openstack-hudson to ~diskimage-builder-core | 20:10 |
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| derekh | SpamapS: fixes are merged for bug 1202612, at least the problem doesn't hose your machine anymore | 20:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202612 in diskimage-builder "during ramdisk-image-create most of /dev is removed" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202612 | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | derekh: excellent can you close it? | 20:10 |
| derekh | yup, will do, didn't know I could them | 20:11 |
| SpamapS | Ok it looks like diskimage-builder is just setup a bit wonky. Will bug an owner/admin of that project to let openstack-hudson poke bugs | 20:11 |
| SpamapS | #action SpamapS to drive making sure gerrit can close bugs on diskimage-builder LP project | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | anybody else have other bugs to bring up? | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | #topic Grizzly test rack status | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grizzly test rack status (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:13 | |
| SpamapS | AFAIK, status is unchanged. We'd still like to close the POC bugs to make it better. | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | Otherwise.. ? | 20:13 |
| SpamapS | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 20:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:14 | |
| SpamapS | pleia2: How're things? | 20:14 |
| pleia2 | I was out last week so no progress, I'll touch base later this week when I have something | 20:15 |
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| SpamapS | pleia2: welcome back :) | 20:15 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | #topic open discussion | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:16 | |
| SpamapS | THe sprint, btw, is a go | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | Sep 16 - 20 in Seattle, per the message to openstack-dev | 20:16 |
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| SpamapS | We have quite a few people attending. If you have not booked/registered your intent, please do so soon. All TripleO interested parties are welcome! | 20:17 |
| * pleia2 will book travel soon! | 20:17 | |
| SpamapS | Well in the interest of not holding peoples' attention any longer than it needs to be held... | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | by the powers vested in me by the kiwi who was not available this week, I hereby end this meeting | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 20:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 20:19:24 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-29-20.01.html | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-29-20.01.txt | 20:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-07-29-20.01.log.html | 20:19 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| dkehn | hi | 21:00 |
| mestery | hey | 21:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:00 |
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| armax | hello | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | _____ | 21:00 |
| pcm_ | hi | 21:01 |
| arosen | hiya | 21:01 |
| Swami | hi all | 21:01 |
| nati_uen_ | hi | 21:01 |
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| garyk | hi | 21:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: No aloha this week? | 21:01 |
| marun | hi | 21:01 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: I was just checking if anyone noticed… :) | 21:02 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Heh. | 21:02 |
| emagana | hi all! | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jul 29 21:03:06 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:03 |
| enikanorov | hi | 21:03 |
| vbannai | Hello | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | Congrats to our two new core team members: armax and mestery | 21:04 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: have you told them about the ritual? | 21:05 |
| armax | ? | 21:05 |
| emagana | congratulations mestery and armax! | 21:05 |
| armax | :) | 21:05 |
| salv-orlando | they have to buy drink for all the other cores at the next summit | 21:05 |
| salv-orlando | one round each | 21:05 |
| nati_uen_ | congrat! | 21:05 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: No mention of a ritual, is this something to happen in Hong Kong? | 21:05 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: ^ | 21:05 |
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| armax | ah, okay for a second I feared the worst :P | 21:05 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: I will be happy to do that in Hong Kong. :) | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | armax: that's the part we can talk about it public :p | 21:05 |
| armax | oh my | 21:06 |
| salv-orlando | ah the lies I would tell for some free booze. Don't you find it tastes a lot better when it's free? | 21:06 |
| mestery | :) | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | both guys will be able to help with our review bandwidth especially with the large amount of work we have to accomplish in H3 | 21:07 |
| armax | I hope I won't let you guys down :) | 21:07 |
| garyk | they have ti buy all drinks at the next summit. congratulations | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | speaking of work.. we're getting close to our target number of med or high blueprints for H3 | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | #info armax and mestery promoted to core | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | now that is it official in the logs can continue :) | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/havana-3 | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | when grooming the blueprint list I've become a little concerned with several of the blueprints that have not been started | 21:09 |
| nati_uen_ | It looks like some bp with 'not started' have reviews.. (Qos etc) | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | which one? | 21:12 |
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| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: ah sorry it is my mistake | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | no worries.. there are several in that area and I thought I had missed one | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:14 | |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1194026 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1194026 in neutron "check_public_network_connectivity fails with timeout" [Critical,In progress] | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | This bug is still open. nati_uen_ want to update? | 21:14 |
| nati_uen_ | OK In this week, I found ping time out is just 20 sec. | 21:15 |
| nati_uen_ | so I fixed tempest, but it looks like no effects | 21:15 |
| nati_uen_ | I'm working on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37576/ | 21:15 |
| nati_uen_ | latest patch looks no failure in some gating. so I'll keep investigation | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | ok.. thanks for working through it | 21:15 |
| nati_uen_ | I can't find the way to reproduce it in my env for this time.. This is very nasty bug | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | Yes it definitely is… I've tried to replicate it a few ways too | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | Any other bugs the team should tracking? | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:18 |
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| emagana | still working on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1202331 | 21:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202331 in openstack-manuals "renaming to neutron in non-networking docs " [Medium,In progress] | 21:18 |
| emagana | will be completed this week! I was busy updating a plugin, you can guess which one! | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | the linuxbridge :p | 21:19 |
| emagana | markmcclain: OVS ;-) | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | seriously, thanks for updating the other manuals | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | Any questions for docs? | 21:20 |
| emagana | on VPNaaS, will start ASAP! BP is created and assigned to me | 21:20 |
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| markmcclain | cool | 21:20 |
| emagana | on FWaaS, Sumit can provide update | 21:20 |
| nati_uen_ | emagana: please assign it for me :) | 21:21 |
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| pcm_ | I've starting on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1203865 | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1203865 in openstack-api-site "Neutron VPNaaS API Docs" [Undecided,New] | 21:21 |
| emagana | nati_uen_: thanks! | 21:21 |
| pcm_ | Waited till quantum->neutron change occurred. | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | Good idea | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | #topic API | 21:22 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: hi | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | hello people | 21:22 |
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| salv-orlando | on the API side, there is no major news worth mentioning | 21:23 |
| enikanorov | i'd like to ask | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | I think there is not a lot left to sort out for FW and VPN | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | perhaps just about port ranges on FW | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | but I've no checked gerrit over the weekend | 21:23 |
| enikanorov | 'api core for services' blueprint has high priority for H3 | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, nothing that cannot be discussed directly on gerrit | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov: yep | 21:24 |
| enikanorov | which 'service' extension worth moving to core? | 21:24 |
| enikanorov | routers, i guess? | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | I think that's related to L2/L3 split | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | IMHO, doing the blueprint you mentioned make sense only if we manage to make progress on the L2/L3 split | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | I don't think, at this stage, we are in a position such to consider anything else core | 21:25 |
| enikanorov | I see. then I don't see why it should have high priority | 21:25 |
| enikanorov | as i didn't see much progress with l2/l3 split | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | I am happy to keep on the same priority level on the blueprint for splitting layer-2 and layer-3 plugin | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | and talking about that blueprint… do we have a real use case for that for Havana? | 21:26 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: What was the original use case for that BP, can you refresh my memory? | 21:27 |
| enikanorov | not for Havana, I guess. | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | allowing for implementing plugins which provided L3 functionality over another L2 plugin | 21:27 |
| nati_uen_ | IMO, l2/l3 split should be high priority. IMO Henry has some reviews | 21:28 |
| enikanorov | i remember that was a 5k lines patch | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | for instance you might use ML2 for L2, and then 'use-my-router-and-your-network-will-be-faster-than-ever' for L3 | 21:28 |
| mestery | Bob has rebased this a few times, the patch is quite large, if people are interested, I'll see if we can get this pushed out again soon. | 21:28 |
| enikanorov | after having a first set of -1 it was abandoned | 21:28 |
| nati_uen_ | I'm also happy to review it | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | To cut a long story short, the rules for all the other patches will apply to this one too. | 21:29 |
| mestery | OK, I will talk to Bob and get him to push it out, though he may be on vacation for the rest of this week. | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | We can downgrade it to low if we deem there's not enough interest around it. | 21:29 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: I think there is plenty of interest it appears. | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | At that stage, we might downgrade also the blueprint assigned to enikanorov | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | I'll put both at medium for now | 21:30 |
| enikanorov | yes, that seems reasonable. but i even suggest to postpone it to Icehouce | 21:30 |
| enikanorov | *s | 21:30 |
| enikanorov | (I'm talking about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/api-core-for-services now) | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: thoughts on deferring? | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | I have no reason for making it a priority for Havana (the layer-2/layer-3 split)/ | 21:31 |
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| salv-orlando | And even api-core-for-services… I don't seem to have any reason for making it happen in Havana | 21:31 |
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| salv-orlando | Let's start moving api-core-for-services to low. | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | Then we'll sync up with Bob on the other blueprint | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:32 |
| mestery | works for me too | 21:32 |
| nati_uen_ | It looks like some routers service are proposed, so IMO layer-2/layer-3 split should be earlier | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | nati | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | nati_uen_: I am aware of a draft blueprint for a L3 plugin, and of another 'provider router' blueprint still under discussion | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | but not anything else - with priority medium or higher - which will require this change for havana | 21:34 |
| nati_uen_ | salv-orlando: I got it | 21:35 |
| amotoki | As long as router is implemeted as a part of core pluign, we don't need to split L2/3. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | amotoki: correct. | 21:35 |
| mestery | The split allows for something like the Embrane work to exist without a L2 plugin, though. Just FYI. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: that is the draft I mentioned | 21:36 |
| GeoffArnold | Heads-up: we'll be proposing a blueprint to address multivendor router support in the next few weeks | 21:36 |
| mestery | GeoffArnold: For Havana? | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | GeoffArnold: you should propose it kind of… now | 21:36 |
| GeoffArnold | No, icehouse | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | ah ok! | 21:36 |
| mestery | Got it. | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | Ok.. then we're fine on timing | 21:36 |
| emagana | GeoffArnold: +1 | 21:36 |
| GeoffArnold | Early enough to prep for a useful discussion in Hong Kong | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | sure, it might be good if you check this blueprint from Bob Melander then, and see how it fits in your blueprint | 21:37 |
| GeoffArnold | We're looking seriously at multivendor configurations and also virtual appliance provisioning (they're interrelated) | 21:37 |
| GeoffArnold | wilco | 21:37 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-l3-routing-plugin L3 Routing BP | 21:38 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for the link | 21:38 |
| GeoffArnold | Yeah, I looked at that. The challenge is how to do policy-based resource allocation across resources from multiple vendors | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | will be interested to read the BP | 21:39 |
| mestery | Agreed, and to see how it ties into Bob's work. | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | to make sure we stay on time.. I'll follow up with Bob, Salvatore | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | Any other API issues to discuss? | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: not from me. | 21:40 |
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| enikanorov | nope. | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for the update | 21:41 |
| amotoki | I would like to discuss about default quota API. I will send a dev mail later. | 21:41 |
| amotoki | s/a dev mail/a mail to dev ML/ | 21:41 |
| amotoki | please go ahead. | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | amotoki: sounds good | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | #topic VPNaaS | 21:42 |
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| markmcclain | nati_uen_: Looks like getting real close and most of the iterations have been small changes | 21:42 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: I think so too. | 21:43 |
| nati_uen_ | salv-orlando: Is the pending policy OK for you? not allow update resource on pending. allow delete anytime | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | lgtm | 21:44 |
| nati_uen_ | salv-orlando: Thanks. | 21:44 |
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| nati_uen_ | amotoki: do you have any more concerns? | 21:44 |
| amotoki | nati_uen_: nothing except PENDING above | 21:44 |
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| amotoki | nati_uen_: i agree with your policy | 21:44 |
| nati_uen_ | amotoki: latest patch is following the policy | 21:45 |
| nati_uen_ | amotoki: so pending issue is solved? | 21:45 |
| amotoki | nati_uen_: will check | 21:45 |
| nati_uen_ | amotoki: thanks | 21:45 |
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| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: amotoki: do you guys have concerns for driver patch? | 21:45 |
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| markmcclain | need to take a last look and test a bit more | 21:46 |
| amotoki | I don't see more concerns so far. will test it after the meeting. | 21:46 |
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| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: Thanks. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Quantum/VPNaaS/HowToInstall is up-to-date, so plese use this | 21:46 |
| nati_uen_ | amotoki: Thanks | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | nati_uen_: will do | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova | 21:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:47 | |
| nati_uen_ | One news is heat support is in review :) That's all from us | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | nati_uen_: great! | 21:47 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: Thanks! | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | I'm sure most saw, but nova-net deprecation has been delayed a release | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | So the earliest it will disappear is J | 21:48 |
| garyk | do we still want to try and have quantum set as the default for devstack? | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | garyk: yes | 21:48 |
| mestery | I think we should try for that, yes. | 21:48 |
| garyk | sorry neutron - bad habits are hard to break | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | The pushback has been passing tempest tests unmodified | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | Anything else for Nova integration? | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:51 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: FW is in the same situation as VPN.. super close to merging with only minor fixups made the last 2-3 days | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: hi | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, the patch has been stable for a few days now | 21:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i hope 50 is a lucky number :-) | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | me too :) | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i don't seem to have any pending items | 21:53 |
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| garyk | sorry - internet went down and came back up again. did i miss anything? | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | last i checked there were 6 cores who commented on the reviews | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | is everyone happy? :-) | 21:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | talking about the API patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/29004/ | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | I think so.. it it is really testing | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | If nobody complains about dichotomy with port ranges wrt security groups I am fine too | 21:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | salv-orlando: thanks | 21:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the agent and the driver patches are also done | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: you're talking n:n in one column vs range_min and range_max in a separate attributes (columns)? | 21:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | but really waiting for the API patch to get through | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: yes | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. I've gone back and forth on it | 21:57 |
| salv-orlando | sumitnaiksatam replied that after a careful review they asserted that this widely accepted as standard way of configuring throughout the industry | 21:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain, salv-orlando: this seemed more natural coming from the firewalls/iptables world | 21:57 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am not religious about this, but talking to a lot of people they seemed this was more usable and easier | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: I think both solutions are totally valid. It's the fact that they are different that makes me unhappy | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | understand.. that's my concern | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | we can talk offline since we're running out of time | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | If we have a large consensus that the range in a single attribute is the way to go, I'd add it to security groups and deprecate the range (keeping it for bw compatibility) | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 21:59 |
| marun | -1 on a single attribute | 21:59 |
| marun | we're storing this in a db | 22:00 |
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| marun | storing as a blob is a dumb idea | 22:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | marun: dumb??? | 22:00 |
| marun | maybe it works in fw land, where indexed access is easy | 22:00 |
| * salv-orlando please don't tell me I've opened a can of worms | 22:00 | |
| marun | yes, dumb in the context of db storage | 22:00 |
| marun | it's not smart to concatenate columns unless there is a performance reason to do so | 22:01 |
| marun | i'm not saying this has to affect the api | 22:01 |
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| marun | but storage should be separate | 22:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | marun: concatenation of columns? not sure if you have looked at the patch | 22:01 |
| marun | i heard 'one column vs range_min and range_max' | 22:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think we are digressing here talking about performance | 22:02 |
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| nati_uen_ | yeah, we should discuss it on the review | 22:02 |
| marun | fair enough | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. we can chat after in #openstack-neutron | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | we're at an hour and have several folks staying up late | 22:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: sounds good, lets sort this out an move on | 22:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | an -> and | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 22:02 |
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| markmcclain | enikanorov: anything new? | 22:02 |
| enikanorov | yep | 22:02 |
| enikanorov | i'd like to have this bp in for h-3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-integration-with-service-types | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | i've also posted a question to dev ML | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | I set the milestone to H3 | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | regarding the possible issue in API | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | is not showing that way for you? | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | markmcclain: but it's not approved yet | 22:03 |
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| markmcclain | sorry.. too many boxes to check on different screens.. I'll fix that | 22:03 |
| enikanorov | thanks! | 22:04 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. I'll look at the ML for the API issue | 22:04 |
| enikanorov | beside that, SumitNaiksatam, nati_uen_, salv-orlando, please share your thought on the question in ML | 22:04 |
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| enikanorov | thanks! | 22:04 |
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| enikanorov | that's all from my side | 22:04 |
| markmcclain | Thanks enikanorov | 22:05 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov: will do | 22:05 |
| markmcclain | #topic Stable Branch | 22:05 |
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| nati_uen_ | enikanorov: sure | 22:05 |
| markmcclain | garyk: since me a text that connection dropped, but wanted to let everyone know that the next Stable release will be Aug 8th | 22:05 |
| markmcclain | #topic Horizon | 22:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 22:05 | |
| markmcclain | amotoki: Any important items to highlight? | 22:06 |
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| amotoki | FWaaS beta is available | 22:06 |
| mestery | markmcclain: For stable, I'd like to see if we can get this bug in there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1204125 | 22:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1204125 in neutron "Neutron DHCP agent generates invalid hostnames for new version of dnsmasq" [Medium,Fix committed] | 22:06 |
| amotoki | And default quota read API discussion is raised in horizon bug. I will send a mail later. | 22:06 |
| mestery | markmcclain: I marked it as backport potential. | 22:07 |
| amotoki | that's all. | 22:07 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: yeah.. that's on the list | 22:07 |
| mestery | markmcclain: Thanks (sorry for being late here, was digging hte link out) | 22:07 |
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| markmcclain | amotoki: cool.. I'll have to try the FWaaS UI | 22:08 |
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| markmcclain | Any other questions on Horizon? | 22:08 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 22:09 |
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| markmcclain | Anything we didn't cover that needs to be talked about? | 22:09 |
| mestery | FYI: I have a new revision of the ML2 devstack patch out for review here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1200767 | 22:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1200767 in devstack "Add support for setting extra network options for ML2 plugin" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:09 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: When we discuss service-agent? | 22:09 |
| mestery | Anyone who wants to try it out, please do and provide feedback. | 22:09 |
| markmcclain | nati_uen_: thanks for the reminder | 22:09 |
| markmcclain | IRC chat about service agents Wednesday 1530 UTC in #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:11 |
| nati_uen_ | markmcclain: sure. Thanks :) | 22:11 |
| markmcclain | we will discuss the high level changes needed to the l3 agent now that VPN and FW will be available | 22:12 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for sharing the devstack link | 22:13 |
| markmcclain | Anything else for this week? | 22:13 |
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| dkehn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30447/ | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | yeah, I would like to rewrite Neutron in javascript | 22:13 |
| salv-orlando | jk :) | 22:14 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: I want LISP first | 22:14 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Why not Ruby? | 22:14 |
| salv-orlando | I was about to say Eiffel, but then people might have called me reactionary | 22:14 |
| nati_uen_ | erlang erlang erlang! | 22:14 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: I'll take a look and test concurrently with API changes | 22:14 |
| dkehn | markmcclain, thx | 22:15 |
| amotoki | dkehn: sorry for the late response. I'll look it. | 22:15 |
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| dkehn | sweet | 22:15 |
| HenryG | I cannot run neutron unit test suite twice in a row. Anyone else seeing this? | 22:15 |
| markmcclain | HenryG: No | 22:15 |
| markmcclain | How are you invoking? | 22:16 |
| dkehn | amotoki, has all the suggestions that you brought up | 22:16 |
| HenryG | tox -e py27 | 22:16 |
| mestery | HenryG: I occasionally see random failures. Try a third run. :)_ | 22:16 |
| nati_uen_ | neutron.tests.unit.ml2.test_agent_scheduler.Ml2AgentSchedulerTestCase.test_network_add_to_dhcp_agent always fails in my env, but it is ok on gating | 22:16 |
| dkehn | not I | 22:16 |
| clarkb | HenryG: testr will actually reorder tests based on previous runtimes to try and maximize throughput | 22:17 |
| amotoki | dkehn: Thanks for addressing them. I will check both API and CLI sides. | 22:17 |
| enikanorov | nati_uen_: the same failures in my env | 22:17 |
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| clarkb | HenryG: its possible that reording results in a thing that fails | 22:17 |
| clarkb | HenryG: nati_uen_ it is probably worth debugging the failures as chances are they are real bugs | 22:17 |
| nati_uen_ | enikanorov: I'm grad to hear I'm not only one :) | 22:17 |
| dkehn | amotoki, please read the review notes there was a side effect on one of them | 22:17 |
| markmcclain | clarkb: agreed | 22:17 |
| clarkb | HenryG: nati_uen_ `testr run --analyze-isolation` after a failed run is very useful for finding test interactions that cause failures | 22:17 |
| enikanorov | and they'r not failing if run alone | 22:17 |
| nati_uen_ | clarkb: I'm assumption is the function using waiting timer. if the test exceeds 1 sec, it will fail | 22:18 |
| mestery | I've got to drop off folks, have a good night! | 22:18 |
| nati_uen_ | clarkb: I agree, we should debug it | 22:18 |
| nati_uen_ | clarkb: Thanks | 22:18 |
| markmcclain | mestery: bye | 22:18 |
| nati_uen_ | mestery: bye! | 22:18 |
| clarkb | enikanorov: that usually indicates there is a second test (or more) that is interferring with your test | 22:19 |
| HenryG | Thanks clarkb - I will try your suggestions when I get a chance. Will ping you if I have further questions. | 22:19 |
| clarkb | enikanorov: by running concurrently or before the failing test | 22:19 |
| enikanorov | clarkb: i understand. the failures are pretty stable. 100% i'd say | 22:19 |
| markmcclain | It is very likely that we have a few tests that unintentionally don't clean up or change read-only datastructures | 22:20 |
| markmcclain | Everyone have a good evening/morning/afternoon and talk to everyone on the mailing list and IRC | 22:20 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jul 29 22:21:03 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-29-21.03.html | 22:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-29-21.03.txt | 22:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-07-29-21.03.log.html | 22:21 |
| dkehn | l8r | 22:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain, salv-orlando: you guys want to get on to openstack-neutron to discuss port range? | 22:21 |
| nati_uen_ | Have a good one! | 22:21 |
| salv-orlando | SumitNaiksatam: I will be there until my eyelid close. | 22:22 |
| salv-orlando | * eyelids | 22:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | salv-orlando: no problem, thanks :-) | 22:22 |
| markmcclain | sure.. I've got a few minutes before I have to head out | 22:22 |
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| amotoki | bye all! good day/night | 22:23 |
| markmcclain | bye | 22:23 |
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| emagana | ciao ciao | 22:25 |
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