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| reed | hi evgeny | 17:59 |
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| reed | jeblair, you there? | 17:59 |
| evgeny | reed: hi - you're Stefano right? | 18:00 |
| reed | yes | 18:00 |
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| reed | let's wait for jeblair a couple of minutes | 18:01 |
| jeblair | hi | 18:02 |
| mordred | hey | 18:03 |
| evgeny | Hello, jeblair, mordred | 18:03 |
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| * fungi is listening in as well | 18:05 | |
| reed | perfect | 18:05 |
| jeblair | reed: so i think we wanted to make sure we agreed on who was responsible for what, and then to coordinate on access to a new server | 18:06 |
| mordred | ++ | 18:06 |
| reed | right | 18:06 |
| evgeny | are you planning to use puppet? | 18:07 |
| reed | wait, before we go into the details I'd like to lay out the overall plan | 18:07 |
| evgeny | Ideally we'd need two servers - staging and production | 18:07 |
| evgeny | ok | 18:08 |
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| reed | what OS do you need on these? what basic systems? | 18:09 |
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| evgeny | preferrably ubuntu lts | 18:09 |
| evgeny | postgresql | 18:09 |
| evgeny | nginx | 18:09 |
| mordred | I think the plan is simpler than that: jeblair and I discussed giving you a server ( could be 2 if you need 2 ) with ubuntu LTS on it, injecting your keys on it and letting you manage it however you want | 18:09 |
| evgeny | uwsgi | 18:09 |
| evgeny | sounds good | 18:10 |
| jeblair | yeah, from my point of view, things get messy when we start having two sets of sysadmins on a box | 18:10 |
| mordred | ++ | 18:10 |
| jeblair | so i'd either like to have the server fully managed in our environment with our public puppet repo | 18:10 |
| jeblair | or just be hands-off and let you manage the whole thing how you want | 18:10 |
| reed | good for me | 18:10 |
| evgeny | sounds good, the system under my management would be more understandable to me | 18:11 |
| jeblair | evgeny: from the last time we talked, it sounded like you didn't want to put all of your management systems into our puppet repo, so i'm assuming the hands-off, you manage the whole thing yourself option is what you'd prefer, but let us know if that changes. :) | 18:11 |
| evgeny | sounds good | 18:12 |
| evgeny | this way actually I will be able to help at shorter notice | 18:12 |
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| evgeny | I have to admit that I don't know anything about puppet | 18:12 |
| evgeny | I support systems under puppet control, but there is an engineer who deals with the puppet per se | 18:13 |
| evgeny | and I just tweak things for the upgrades | 18:13 |
| jeblair | evgeny: ok, so our part will just be to provide two ubuntu lts servers, and set up dns. you'll do all the configuration, administration, security updates (including ubuntu package updates) and backups. yeah? | 18:13 |
| evgeny | sounds good. | 18:13 |
| evgeny | I will email you my keys | 18:14 |
| jeblair | evgeny: great, i'll set up two servers and add your keys to ~root/.ssh/authorized_keys (if you prefer to make your own accounts and sudo, you can set that up after logging in as root) | 18:15 |
| reed | ok, I think this point is done then | 18:15 |
| reed | next point is domain name | 18:15 |
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| reed | ask.openstack.org or something else? | 18:17 |
| reed | forum.openstack.org? | 18:17 |
| jeblair | ask.openstack.org lgtm... | 18:17 |
| jeblair | ubuntu uses ask... what about fedora? | 18:17 |
| jeblair | https://ask.fedoraproject.org/questions/ | 18:17 |
| evgeny | ask.fedora | 18:17 |
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| reed | ask | 18:17 |
| * fungi agrees. the old openstack forums can just redirect to the askserver once it's ready | 18:17 | |
| evgeny | the most common are either ask or answers | 18:17 |
| reed | ask it is | 18:18 |
| jeblair | and ask-staging for the other server? | 18:18 |
| evgeny | ok | 18:18 |
| jeblair | oh, server size? how much ram/disk do you need for ask.o.o? and ask-staging? | 18:18 |
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| jeblair | http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/servers/pricing/ | 18:19 |
| evgeny | 1Gig will be fine for production, and quarter of that for the staging | 18:19 |
| jeblair | evgeny: sure that's enough? you can have whatever you need. :) | 18:20 |
| reed | evgeny, do you know the specs for the server that runs for fedora? | 18:21 |
| clarkb | we can also grow the servers with a couple hours of downtime if that becomes necessary | 18:21 |
| evgeny | that would be enough, can it be increased on demand? | 18:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: +1 | 18:21 |
| evgeny | reed: re:fedora - I don't know I can ask | 18:21 |
| jeblair | clarkb: was it really hours last time? it used to be minutes. :( | 18:22 |
| fungi | clarkb: it's actually not even a couple hours of downtime, just a little downtime around a couple hours after we start the process | 18:22 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: the entire process is about 2 hours but the actually no service time period is much shorter | 18:22 |
| clarkb | but you don't know exactly when the 5 minutes of shutdown startup will happen | 18:22 |
| jeblair | clarkb: but hard to predict within a couple hours window, i guess. | 18:22 |
| reed | I say get the 2gig one, it's safer | 18:22 |
| evgeny | reed: that will be fine | 18:22 |
| jeblair | also, i guess it depends on the size, so a small server will probably expand faster | 18:23 |
| jeblair | okay, i'll do 2g and 1g. | 18:23 |
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| fungi | jeblair: yeah, when we grew static.o.o the actual downtime was still nearly 25 minutes a believe, but there was around 1.5 hours of waiting beforehand | 18:23 |
| fungi | er, i believe | 18:23 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sounds good to me | 18:24 |
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| reed | next point: timeline | 18:24 |
| reed | when can we start? | 18:25 |
| reed | and what are the steps? | 18:25 |
| reed | BTW, I'm taking notes on https://etherpad.openstack.org/askbot-planning | 18:25 |
| evgeny | I can get the sites up and running by next monday (possibly sooner) | 18:25 |
| jeblair | reed: we can have the servers for evgeny a few minutes after he sends his key | 18:25 |
| reed | evgeny, what will you need to do after that? which are your steps? | 18:26 |
| fungi | jeblair: i'm happy to start spinning up the virtual machines right now if you like | 18:26 |
| evgeny | the theme ready for production: 1-1.5 months. | 18:27 |
| evgeny | giving safe time estimates here | 18:27 |
| reed | evgeny, I will send you the draft theme I have, maybe we can reuse that | 18:27 |
| jeblair | evgeny: can you handle ipv6 in your web configuration? the server will have an ipv6 address. i can set up a AAAA record in DNS. | 18:27 |
| evgeny | reed: sure that will help | 18:27 |
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| jeblair | evgeny: (i'd like to have ipv6 support, we're adding it to all the rest of our servers) | 18:28 |
| evgeny | jeblair: never done that, but should figure out:) | 18:28 |
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| jeblair | evgeny: why don't we try it, and we'll remove the record if it doesn't work | 18:28 |
| reed | evgeny, while you work on the theme, can we start defining processes, roles, users, etc? | 18:28 |
| evgeny | sure | 18:28 |
| reed | evgeny, the important part I believe is the OpenID integration, before the theme | 18:29 |
| evgeny | reed: please explain what do you mean by that? | 18:29 |
| evgeny | openid is supported out of the box | 18:29 |
| jeblair | fungi: i was thinking of doing it completely manually, so there isn't any of our base configuration on the machines | 18:29 |
| fungi | jeblair: up to you | 18:29 |
| reed | we need to use Launchpad as OpenID provider, nothing else | 18:29 |
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| reed | or let me rephrase that as a question | 18:30 |
| evgeny | reed: no problems - re: openid | 18:30 |
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| reed | jeblair, mordred, fungi: do we want to use only Launchpad as auth or let people use other openID sources? | 18:30 |
| reed | or any other auth system supported by askbot? | 18:30 |
| evgeny | Maybe when I deploy the instance, you will see how it works and then decide? | 18:32 |
| fungi | i think keeping it lp-only would be good consistency with our current services. if we open up to other providers we should do it in more than just one place anyway | 18:32 |
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| fungi | on the other hand, this is less directly tied to our development systems | 18:33 |
| reed | fungi, that's what I was thinking but ... | 18:33 |
| reed | i'm also thinking that for filing bugs people need to have a LP ID anyway... so | 18:33 |
| fungi | true | 18:33 |
| jeblair | yeah; if we end up doing a foundation membership system SSO or something, it might be handy to use lp now be able to tie things together later. but i think with ask, we don't _need_ to. | 18:33 |
| reed | probably we can just disable everything else and use only LP.... | 18:33 |
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| jeblair | the wiki is lp-only. | 18:33 |
| jeblair | evgeny: if you go to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Main_Page | 18:34 |
| jeblair | evgeny: and click login, it sends you to launchpad's openid sign-in page | 18:34 |
| evgeny | jeblair: looking | 18:34 |
| jeblair | evgeny: so you don't have to type in an openid url | 18:34 |
| jeblair | evgeny: so that's the kind of functionality we're talking about | 18:34 |
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| evgeny | askbot works about the same way | 18:35 |
| jeblair | evgeny: basically, it's regular openid, but you use the same URL for everyone without asking them. | 18:35 |
| evgeny | you can try at askbot.org/en/ | 18:35 |
| evgeny | the styling is different, but all the steps are the same. | 18:35 |
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| evgeny | No worries, we'll have the LP login. | 18:37 |
| reed | http://askbot.org/en/account/signin/?next=/en/ can be simplified, removing all the options but OpenID and only launchpad for that :) | 18:38 |
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| evgeny | yes, can be done. | 18:39 |
| evgeny | reed: the buttons can be turned off by configuration | 18:39 |
| reed | do you already have an idea of how much time that will take? | 18:39 |
| evgeny | and I will create a custom button for LP | 18:40 |
| evgeny | Will get it done by Mon. | 18:40 |
| jeblair | evgeny: "https://login.launchpad.net/+openid" is the launchpad openid SSO url | 18:40 |
| jeblair | evgeny: so if you make clicking 'sign in' do the same thing as entering that into the openid url field, that should do it | 18:41 |
| evgeny | jeblair: ok got it | 18:41 |
| reed | good, anything else? | 18:41 |
| clarkb | will there be some sort of "its broken we do X and Y to get it fixed" process? openstack.org DNS broke once and it wasn't quite clear who made the change and who would be able to fix it which made that day interesting for me. | 18:41 |
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| evgeny | jeblair: meaning clicking | 18:41 |
| evgeny | jeblair: meaning clicking "signin" on the header start the openid process right away? this can be done too. | 18:41 |
| fungi | yes, some sort of notification/escalation plan so we know where and who to contact would be very much appreciated | 18:42 |
| jeblair | evgeny: so actually if clicking 'sign in' would do that, instead of taking you to a page with the buttons, i think that would be best | 18:42 |
| jeblair | evgeny: yes | 18:42 |
| reed | ah, I need to create Google Analytics code and the other stuff for it | 18:42 |
| evgeny | and google site validation in the webmaster tools. | 18:42 |
| evgeny | also - if you want SSL - a signed certificate | 18:42 |
| reed | we like ssl | 18:42 |
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| reed | jeblair, can we provide the SSL cert? | 18:43 |
| jeblair | evgeny: okay, i'll take care of the ssl cert | 18:43 |
| jeblair | that'll take a few days | 18:43 |
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| evgeny | jeblair: no problems, we can add ssl when you have the certificate | 18:44 |
| reed | what else? | 18:45 |
| jeblair | evgeny: if we have problems, who should we email? | 18:45 |
| evgeny | an MX record for the DNS? | 18:45 |
| evgeny | jeblair: email me at evgeny.fadeev@gmail.com | 18:46 |
| jeblair | evgeny: i don't think it's necessary -- smtp uses A records if there's no mx | 18:46 |
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| jeblair | evgeny: assuming you want to receive mail at 'ask.openstack.org' | 18:46 |
| evgeny | jeblair: this can be used for answering by email. | 18:46 |
| evgeny | I think nothing else really | 18:48 |
| jeblair | reed: i'm good | 18:49 |
| evgeny | jeblair: getting the keys for you now | 18:50 |
| evgeny | will email them | 18:50 |
| reed | perfect, all we need is a start date :) | 18:50 |
| reed | great, let's say tomorrow then | 18:50 |
| reed | ? | 18:50 |
| jeblair | evgeny, reed: cool. | 18:50 |
| evgeny | reed: sounds good | 18:50 |
| reed | wonderful, it's very exciting | 18:50 |
| reed | evgeny, I'll start also the process to get you the payment | 18:51 |
| reed | thanks everybody | 18:51 |
| evgeny | thank you! | 18:51 |
| jeblair | thanks! | 18:51 |
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| nati_ueno | hi! | 20:57 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 20:57 |
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| zyluo | Hi | 20:58 |
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| yamahata | hello | 20:59 |
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| gongysh | hi | 20:59 |
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| danwent | hi folks | 21:00 |
| danwent | amotoki: can you update horizon + quantum section on wiki? | 21:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:00 |
| alexxu | hi | 21:00 |
| amotoki | i'm updating it | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| emagana | hello all! | 21:00 |
| arosen | Hi | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:00 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: looks like you updated api section, just didn't change hte last updated field? | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | yes, probably | 21:01 |
| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 18 21:01:24 2013 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:01 | |
| danwent | hi folks | 21:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:01 |
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| danwent | #info agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:01 |
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| danwent | note that we have switched to a new wiki. if any sub-team leads are having trouble accessing it, let me know. | 21:01 |
| garyk | hi | 21:02 |
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| danwent | we have a few US people out due to a holiday today | 21:02 |
| danwent | #topic announcements | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:02 | |
| danwent | #info G-3 branch date is TOMORROW Feb 19th. | 21:02 |
| danwent | #info: All features must be merged by tomorrow EOD (11:59pm PST). | 21:02 |
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| danwent | #info: Core devs: be vigilant against last minute "rush reviews" | 21:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:02 |
| danwent | I can't stress this point enough…. letting in sub-standard code always comes back to bite us in the ass | 21:03 |
| danwent | and wreaks having on the noble folks who maintain the stable branch (garyk most of all!) | 21:03 |
| danwent | #info We will not be giving feature freeze exceptions for non high/critical issues. | 21:03 |
| danwent | #info Remember to file doc bugs as we merge in G-3 features. | 21:03 |
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| danwent | starting next week, we should be focused on: | 21:04 |
| danwent | 1) dealing with any feature freeze exceptions (FFE) | 21:04 |
| danwent | 2) pairing down our list of bugs to those that are truly serious | 21:04 |
| danwent | 3) making sure we are spinning up the documentation machine | 21:04 |
| danwent | any other announcements before we move on? | 21:04 |
| danwent | #topic bugs (markmcclain ) | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (markmcclain ) (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:05 | |
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| markmcclain | we have 6 high bugs that are not merged | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1112912 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1112912 in quantum "get_firewall_required should use VIF parameter from quantum" [High,In progress] | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1121119 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1121119 in quantum "Metadata support for the NVP plugin" [High,In progress] | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | are in review.. please take a look | 21:06 |
| danwent | markmcclain: are we covering db locking bug in db section? | 21:06 |
| garyk | markmcclain: i think that the vif one requires nova support. | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | I need to move it up.. I have it IPAM | 21:07 |
| danwent | markmcclain: that's ok, just want to make sure we get that covered, as we need to backport that to stable asap | 21:07 |
| danwent | also, i saw this come in today: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1128931 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1128931 in quantum "l3-agent can not find Endpoint" [Undecided,New] | 21:07 |
| danwent | would be good to get that triaged prior to G-3 | 21:07 |
| garyk | danwent: i'll take a look at that one tomorrow morning | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. this one is interesting because we use RPC, so it only applies to folsom | 21:08 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: my understanding is that there's still discussion on get_firewall_required stuff? | 21:08 |
| nati_ueno | yes | 21:08 |
| danwent | markmcclain: good point, so yeah, i guess applies only to stable, g-3 is irrelevant | 21:09 |
| nati_ueno | i got new comment from daniel | 21:09 |
| danwent | #todo danwent comment on get_firewall_required bug after meeting | 21:09 |
| danwent | markmcclain: btw, i invalidated https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1111572 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1111572 in quantum "quantum subnet-update can't update allocation-pool " [High,Invalid] | 21:09 |
| danwent | since it seems like we don't want to change the API spec | 21:09 |
| danwent | markmcclain: so you can take it off your list | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I missed the status change | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | I'll update | 21:10 |
| danwent | ok, anything else before we move on? | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | that's all for now | 21:10 |
| danwent | #topic api (salv-orlando) | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "api (salv-orlando) (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:11 | |
| salv-orlando | hi all. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | as you can read in the status, there nothing serious (critical, high) on the API side. However we really might use a core dev for merging the pagination patch. | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | I owe Alex a review on that one | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | it's very mature, so I suspect it should be an easy review. | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | I am afraid we will not have enough review cycles for completing the WADL blueprints. nati-ueno is the only one who did some reviews. | 21:13 |
| danwent | ok, salv-orlando do we still have a bug filed for grizzly to validate API input to avoid issues with mispellings, etc that are silently ignored? | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | Yes, it under review. | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | It's a very small patch (+5, -0) | 21:13 |
| danwent | i think that is very important, so can you post a link? | 21:13 |
| danwent | i know lots of people who would be happy to take a look at a 5 line review after the monsters we've been doing through lately :) | 21:13 |
| zyluo | salv-orlando: can the wadl patch also have some cores? | 21:14 |
| garyk | my kindom for a review of afew lines | 21:14 |
| gongysh | :) | 21:14 |
| zyluo | S/can/could | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | zyluo: I can do a review tomorrow morning, but I am afraid I can't make a commitment to have it merged | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21849/ <-- the small patch from Jason Zhang (bearovercloud) | 21:15 |
| danwent | ok, so it sounds like both the WADL and pagination patches need people to step forward if folks really want to see them in grizzly. In both cases, I'm not very worried about rushed reviews, as salv-orlando says the pagination stuff is mature, and the wadl stuff is not code that runs as part fo the service | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | you must merge a patch from somebody with that nick | 21:15 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on the API? | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | no, that is all my master | 21:15 |
| danwent | #topic L3/IPAM/dhcp (markmcclain) | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "L3/IPAM/dhcp (markmcclain) (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:16 | |
| danwent | btw, the last-update field of "now" is not very helpful :P | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | :) | 21:16 |
| danwent | garyk's suggestion of using the signature if perfect | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | Good news… Part 1 of Yong's scheduler patch has merged | 21:16 |
| danwent | yup, great | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | cores please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21069/ | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | Yong has been super responsive to make sure this merges in time for G3 | 21:17 |
| nati_ueno | awesome | 21:17 |
| danwent | ok, i think this is probably our highest priority item outstanding | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | take a look at part 2 first | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | and then comment on part 3 | 21:18 |
| danwent | so if you're doing a lot of reviews, but this one is languishing, something is wrong :) | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21175/ | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | That is the last high item for G3 | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | what about part 1? did it already merge (it looked quite mature to me) | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: yes… today | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | oh sorry - missed a line | 21:19 |
| amotoki | part 2 looks near merge. | 21:19 |
| amotoki | part 3 needs more reviews. | 21:19 |
| gongysh | part 3 is still monster. | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. I suspect most attention was on part 1 now we need to check out parts 2 and 3 | 21:20 |
| garyk | for part 2 do we want the notifications in each plugin. this cncerns me | 21:20 |
| danwent | garyk: yeah, i was wondering about the same thing. | 21:20 |
| danwent | seemed like maybe we could extract it out | 21:20 |
| danwent | anyway, probably more of a review board discussion | 21:20 |
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| garyk | danwent: ok | 21:20 |
| gongysh | the same problem to security group and other extensions. | 21:21 |
| danwent | garyk: sorry, just trying to end meeting before its too late :P | 21:21 |
| gongysh | ? | 21:21 |
| gongysh | right? | 21:21 |
| garyk | danwent: np. understood. | 21:21 |
| danwent | gongysh: let's move discussion to gerrit to keep meeting moving, as I don't think the comment was a fundemental concern | 21:22 |
| danwent | markmcclain: go ahead | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | I want to thank garyk for fixing last weeks documentation bug | 21:22 |
| danwent | woohoo! | 21:22 |
| amotoki | garyk: thanks! | 21:23 |
| garyk | thanks to amotoki for the info :) | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | and the last item for my report is the proposed fix for the DB IP Allocation bug | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21424/ | 21:23 |
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| markmcclain | the fix uses a select..for update SQL query under the hood | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | to lock the row until the transaction is complete | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | there are two −1s… I'm ready to remove mine | 21:24 |
| danwent | markmcclain: i need to re-read that patch, as its not clear to me how the case where we allocate a specific IP is covered. | 21:24 |
| danwent | but if we're confident it is, i'm fine removing my -1 | 21:25 |
| danwent | don't need to explain it now | 21:25 |
| danwent | we can handle it on review | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I just wanted to call attention the review because it will impact both G3 and stable | 21:25 |
| danwent | yup, agreed. | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | that is it for my report | 21:26 |
| danwent | one other item i wanted to bring up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1056437 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056437 in quantum "L3 agent should support provider external networks" [High,In progress] | 21:26 |
| danwent | rkukura couldn't make it today, but he is planning on working on this | 21:26 |
| danwent | its valuable, and has been hanging around since just before folsom release | 21:26 |
| danwent | if we're going to do this, i think we need to wrap it up soon, as touches some pretty critical code | 21:27 |
| danwent | ok, sounds like we're good on l3/ipam/dhcp? | 21:27 |
| danwent | #topic nova quantum integration (garyk) | 21:27 |
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| garyk | some minor stable fixes. | 21:27 |
| garyk | not sure if we need to make changes for the vif firewall. nati_ueno or amotoki you guys aware of that? | 21:28 |
| nati_ueno | imo it should be | 21:28 |
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| garyk | nati_ueno: thnks | 21:29 |
| amotoki | If we don't use generic VIF driver, we don't need to update it, but idealy it should be. | 21:29 |
| garyk | there is also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21819/ - add port for hot plug which touchs on quantum from nova | 21:29 |
| danwent | garyk: i promised vishy i would review that later today | 21:29 |
| danwent | so will be looking at it right after meeting | 21:30 |
| garyk | danwent: thats it. we should follow up on the vif/firewall side on nova | 21:30 |
| danwent | ack on both accounts | 21:30 |
| danwent | security / firewalling (arosen) | 21:30 |
| garyk | danwent: i looked this morning and need to look after the patch was updated | 21:30 |
| danwent | #topic security /firewallg (arosen) | 21:30 |
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| arosen | The NEC, NVP, OVS patches merged for this. | 21:30 |
| danwent | garyk: yes, seems like there is a new patch owner… odd | 21:30 |
| garyk | i think arosen is too busy fixing bugs :) | 21:30 |
| arosen | There is a patch for RYU that implements security groups that's still up for reveiw. | 21:31 |
| arosen | My nova changes are still also up for review which hopefully should merge soon. | 21:31 |
| arosen | that's about it on the security group side. | 21:31 |
| danwent | arosen: ok, those nova security group proxy patches are important | 21:32 |
| danwent | seems like vishy is on board with them getting in, but i'll re-check with him | 21:32 |
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| arosen | will do | 21:32 |
| vishy | I'm on board | 21:33 |
| vishy | :) | 21:33 |
| danwent | anything else? | 21:33 |
| danwent | vishy: ha, thanks :) | 21:33 |
| danwent | vishy: do you expect problems getting a second core? | 21:33 |
| vishy | danwent: we shall see :) | 21:33 |
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| danwent | ok… i can go begging if needed :) | 21:33 |
| danwent | #topic LBaaS (danwent) | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LBaaS (danwent) (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:34 | |
| danwent | ok, this one got very interesting in the past few days | 21:34 |
| danwent | basically, we weren't happy with the current state of things with lbaas, and as is, the code was not going to make the standard grizzly cut-off | 21:34 |
| danwent | we were faced with the option of either not having any in-tree lbaas impelmentations for grizzly, or drastically simplifying things and trying to push that into grizzly with a FFE | 21:35 |
| danwent | markmcclain has volunteered to work with the mirantis team on the latter | 21:35 |
| danwent | the model is basically to simplify things by using a namespace + agent approach similar to DHCP, and to leverage the haproxy code from the existing patch to write config files, etc. | 21:36 |
| danwent | for haproxy. | 21:36 |
| danwent | we're going to request a one-week FFE from ttx tomorrow. | 21:36 |
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| danwent | here is ha-proxy driver review, which will remain intact except for the "remote control" stuff to manage VMs (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20985/) | 21:37 |
| zykes- | So, No LBaaS in G? | 21:37 |
| danwent | and markmcclain is using https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-namespace-agent to track the simplified agent approach. he expects to have a branch posted late tues/ early wed. | 21:37 |
| danwent | zykes-: we'll see, its still pending | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: so paramiko dependency is definetely gones? | 21:37 |
| zykes- | ok :) | 21:37 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yes, all use of SSH to access VMs would be gone | 21:38 |
| danwent | since there wouldn't be VMs | 21:38 |
| danwent | I think we'll huddle again on the #quantum-lbaas channel on thurs to see if we feel like we have enough to push for grizzly | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | ok, I can take some of the review burden out of markmcclain's hands. I'll sync with him to see which patches I should look at first | 21:38 |
| danwent | i'll have one of the developers send out a note about it. | 21:38 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: great, thanks… that would be helpful | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: thanks! | 21:39 |
| danwent | markmcclain: anything else to add? | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | you covered it for now | 21:39 |
| danwent | #topic quantum client / cli | 21:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum client / cli (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:39 | |
| danwent | gongysh + markmcclain | 21:39 |
| gongysh | hi | 21:40 |
| gongysh | No code for Make QuantumClient library more pythonic | 21:40 |
| danwent | looks like content is still from last week? | 21:40 |
| danwent | or just no change to last-updated? :P | 21:40 |
| gongysh | markmcclain is busy. | 21:40 |
| danwent | haha, no kidding :) | 21:40 |
| danwent | ok, so are we still planning on making that change? seems somewhat risky? | 21:41 |
| gongysh | we needs review for allow known options be put after unknown options in list and update commands | 21:41 |
| danwent | have we set a "feature freeze" date for the client 3.0 release ? | 21:41 |
| gongysh | no. | 21:42 |
| danwent | ok, if you plan to, definitely let people know a bit ahead of time | 21:43 |
| gongysh | but we need to publish a milestone for G server. | 21:43 |
| danwent | sorry? "G server"? | 21:43 |
| gongysh | this phthonic does not impact feature to access quantum server G, so, we can go without it. | 21:43 |
| gongysh | G server -> quantum server G | 21:44 |
| danwent | ah, the grizzly version of quantum-server… got it. | 21:44 |
| gongysh | we needs review for allow known options be put after unknown options in list and update commands | 21:44 |
| danwent | ok, so is the thought that we would pushing a 2.x compatible with grizzly, then update to 3.0 potentially out of sync with server releases? | 21:45 |
| amotoki | gongysh: i am looking it. I have no more comments than Gary commented. | 21:45 |
| gongysh | amotoki: thanks | 21:45 |
| danwent | gongysh + markmcclain : both please send PGP keys to monty so that you can push tags indicating client releases yourself. | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | will do | 21:46 |
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| gongysh | danwent: will do. | 21:46 |
| gongysh | danwent: yes, that is the plan | 21:46 |
| danwent | gongysh: thx | 21:46 |
| gongysh | danwent: IMO | 21:46 |
| danwent | #info we plan to release python-quantumclient 2.x compatible with grizzly, then separately release a 3.0 with new pythonic interface (likely before havana) | 21:47 |
| gongysh | There are some other patches lacking reviews too. | 21:47 |
| danwent | gongysh: btw, we should then add a new milestone on launchpad for the 2.x release and retarget things | 21:47 |
| gongysh | on python quantum client | 21:47 |
| danwent | gongysh: please highlight | 21:47 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-quantumclient,n,z | 21:47 |
| gongysh | about a new milestone, I will talk with markmcclain. | 21:49 |
| danwent | gongysh: great, thanks. | 21:49 |
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| gongysh | no other stuff from my side. | 21:49 |
| danwent | once the feature-set of grizzly is defined by what merged tomorrow night, we can know exactly what CLI stuff needs to be in the corresponding client version. | 21:49 |
| danwent | gongysh: thanks. | 21:49 |
| gongysh | by the way, the action=clear is the previous topic at last meeting? | 21:50 |
| danwent | as mentioned in my email, i'm planning on skipping systemtest and stable sections, due to G-3 deadline | 21:50 |
| gongysh | what is the result? | 21:50 |
| danwent | gongysh: was there a final decision made on that? | 21:50 |
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| danwent | gongysh: can we add a bug to the 2.x release to finalize our plan for that? | 21:51 |
| gongysh | no, as far as I know. the patch is expired. | 21:51 |
| danwent | we'll have to add python-quantumclient release as another focus area for meeting next week. | 21:51 |
| danwent | (I will be reformatting agenda for that meeting, since we are in release mode) | 21:51 |
| danwent | #topic quantum + horizon (amotoki + nati_ueno) | 21:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum + horizon (amotoki + nati_ueno) (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:52 | |
| amotoki | vnic-oridering has been merged. quantu-lbaas has a good progress. | 21:52 |
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| amotoki | nachi's network-topology has got one +2. | 21:52 |
| danwent | great | 21:52 |
| amotoki | I hope someone else tests it. | 21:52 |
| amotoki | one concern is my secgroup-support. | 21:53 |
| amotoki | I encountered the trouble during development. | 21:53 |
| amotoki | I will send a mail to Gabriel to discuss the future plan. | 21:53 |
| danwent | ok. seems like this may be too big of an item for G-3 | 21:53 |
| danwent | please keep me in the loop on the email | 21:54 |
| amotoki | danwent: sure, of cource. | 21:54 |
| danwent | but it may be best to leave this for Havana, so we can make sure we don't overwhelm the reviewing resources from horizon | 21:54 |
| danwent | seems like a lot of their patches are from the quantum team lately, you guys have been doing a great job :) | 21:54 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 21:55 |
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| amotoki | danwent: agree with you | 21:55 |
| danwent | one item i wanted to mention was: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21520/ | 21:55 |
| danwent | this is the fact that people can delete nova ports directly from quantum | 21:55 |
| danwent | the question is whether the API should look at device_owner + device_id and prevent this, or if the CLI / GUI should simply do this check | 21:55 |
| danwent | my concern with doing it in the API is that it requires nova to do two calls to tear down a VM, rather than one. | 21:56 |
| danwent | (i.e., clear device-id, then delete) | 21:56 |
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| danwent | which seems silly | 21:56 |
| zykes- | dhellmann: question, will there be any ideas around supporting stuff like Port Mirroring from the API ? | 21:56 |
| garyk | danwent: i agree with you | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | apart from this, the implications of this patch are manifold | 21:56 |
| salv-orlando | basically this means that I can create a port, own it, and the lose its ownership as soon as I attach it to a VM | 21:57 |
| danwent | anyway, pleaese give opinions on the review… but i would like to see some resolution to this issue in grizzly | 21:57 |
| danwent | any other open discussion? | 21:57 |
| danwent | zykes-: was that a question for us? | 21:57 |
| danwent | ah, you probably mistakenly typed dhellmann | 21:57 |
| zykes- | danwent: yeah, since we hit open discussion I thought I'd ask for @ Havana | 21:58 |
| zykes- | :) | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | I'll be speaking at the OpenStack LA Thursday Feb 28th: http://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-LA/events/103087832/ | 21:58 |
| danwent | zykes-: got it. Yeah, NVP has support for things like port mirroring, so I think salv-orlando or arosen may be working on something like that. | 21:58 |
| danwent | markmcclain: nice… wish I could roadrip down there :P | 21:58 |
| danwent | markmcclain: looks like a good crowd already | 21:59 |
| danwent | ok, we're about out of time | 21:59 |
| danwent | going once... | 21:59 |
| danwent | oh, one more reminder | 21:59 |
| danwent | please please please be careful about merging code that is not ready, just because a developer really wants a feature in a release, doesn't mean its the right thing for the community to have to support and fix that feature. | 22:00 |
| danwent | ok, two bigs days of reviewing. please remember that gongysh's patch and the lbaas stuff are our two high priority community BPs | 22:00 |
| danwent | see you all on gerrit! | 22:01 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 18 22:01:06 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-02-18-21.01.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-02-18-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| garyk | danwent: and i thought you were going to tell us to "be careful out there" | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2013/quantum.2013-02-18-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
| garyk | good night and thanks | 22:01 |
| nati_ueno | bye! | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | haha | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | bye | 22:01 |
| alexxu | bye! | 22:01 |
| danwent | garyk: haha… i perfer "stay classy san diego!" | 22:01 |
| markvoelker | Night folks! | 22:01 |
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| garyk | :) | 22:01 |
| yamahata | bye | 22:01 |
| amotoki | thank, bye! | 22:01 |
| emagana | ciao | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 22:02 |
| danwent | garyk: how is it tha tyou know more pop-culture references than i do? | 22:02 |
| danwent | american pop-culture that is :P | 22:02 |
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