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| jaypipes | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 6 17:00:29 2012 UTC. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
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| sdague | <- here | 17:00 |
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| davidkranz | davidkranz: present | 17:01 |
| Ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | I'm here | 17:01 |
| chunwang | Chun Wang (April) is here. | 17:01 |
| * afazekas here | 17:01 | |
| * dwalleck is sort of awake | 17:01 | |
| jaypipes | chunwang: hi! :) welcome! | 17:01 |
| * sdague hands dwalleck virtual coffee | 17:02 | |
| chunwang | jaypipes: thanks :) | 17:02 |
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| davidkranz | Any one else here for the meeting? | 17:02 |
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| jaypipes | lol | 17:02 |
| sdague | heh | 17:02 |
| donaldngo | here as well | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | donaldngo: hi there | 17:02 |
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| donaldngo | hello | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | OK, welcome back davidkranz | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | #topic Open reviews | 17:03 |
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| jaypipes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | Shall we discuss from bottom to top? | 17:03 |
| Ravikumar_hp | sure | 17:03 |
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| jaypipes | First one (not WIP): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17063/ | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | mordred: ping | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | and fungi ^^ | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | You guys want to comment on that review? afazekas was able to do soem setup.py factoring that just went in to tempest this morning. | 17:04 |
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| jaypipes | I think you just need to revisit that patch and see if a) it's still relevant and b) if so, if it needs a few changes | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | mordred, fungi: ^^ | 17:05 |
| fungi | looking | 17:05 |
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| jaypipes | afazekas, sdague: Next review is the boto versioning one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17467/ | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: any status on that one regarding updates to glance and nova for updated boto? | 17:06 |
| afazekas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17256/ | 17:06 |
| afazekas | nova done, glance missing | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | kk | 17:06 |
| sdague | jaypipes: yeh, my only comments remain. I don't think we want commented out lines of code in the tree | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: +2'd that glance review... should be merged shortly. | 17:07 |
| sdague | if someone else wants to override me, I'm cool with that :) | 17:07 |
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| afazekas | sdague: Workaround must be look like a workaround, which is wrong | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | sdague: I agree with you, but I think afazekas can abandon once 17256 gets merged. | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: correct? | 17:07 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: yes | 17:08 |
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| sdague | ok, so not really an issue then? | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | ok, cool, then we'll just wait to see if 17256 gets through the gate, and then afazekas can mark that tempest patch abandoned. | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | alright, next one! | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17464/ | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | is Rohan here? | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | I believe he's in India, so probably not :) | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | anyone from NTTDATA here? | 17:09 |
| mordred | jaypipes: aroo? | 17:09 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: The comment says he is waiting for a cinder bug fix. But the link in the review is broken. | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | looks like Rohan is waiting on a Cinder bug... | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: yeah. | 17:09 |
| sdague | davidkranz: remove the . | 17:10 |
| sdague | gerrit is detecting the link incorrectly | 17:10 |
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| davidkranz | sdague: Heh. So that one is just in process. | 17:10 |
| sdague | updated the review | 17:10 |
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| sdague | the bug isn't actually being worked as far as I can see | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | afazekas, sdague: I believe https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15972/ should be abandoned now that afazekas's work on the devstack lib/tempest is done. | 17:11 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: yes | 17:11 |
| sdague | cool | 17:12 |
| sdague | afazekas: that lib/tempest work was quite cool btw, cleans stuff up a lot | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: ok, cool. if you could ping jaroslav to abandon at his convenience, that would be great | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | sdague: ++ | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | very cool indeed. | 17:12 |
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| jaypipes | OK, I believe all the remaining merge requests are in the process of working through the gate. | 17:13 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: done | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | except for dwalleck's server actions one, which I conveniently skipped over (we'll discuss later) | 17:13 |
| chunwang | may I know what lib/tempest is doing? which blue print is it for? | 17:13 |
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| jaypipes | chunwang: sure, let me explain | 17:13 |
| sdague | chunwang: it's a cleanup on devstack | 17:13 |
| chunwang | ok | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: so prior to afazekas's work, we had an /etc/tempest.conf.sample and a /etc/tempest.conf.tpl | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: his work gets rid of the redundant/duplicate tempest.conf.tpl file and uses the ini_set bash library routine in devstack to construct the tempest configuration file used in the continuous integration gate tests | 17:15 |
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| jaypipes | chunwang: afazekas's patch cleaned up a bunch of duplicate code and made the generation of tempest's configuration file match how the generation for other OpenStack projects is done in devstack | 17:15 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: it didn't change the configuration file options itself, just the way it was generated. | 17:15 |
| chunwang | thanks, got it. | 17:16 |
| jhenner | abandoned | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | jhenner: ah, cheers! | 17:16 |
| jhenner | with a pleasure | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | :) | 17:16 |
| sdague | tempest in devstack is now getting clean enough that we might want to enable it by default | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: sticking with you, I was going to change topic to discuss the tenant isolation issues we were discussing on https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1087298. Is that OK with you? | 17:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1087298 in tempest "Request rate too high during test_security_group_rules running" [Undecided,New] | 17:17 |
| chunwang | sure. we can discuss it here... | 17:17 |
| jaypipes | #topic How tenant isolation works (and possible bugs/inconsistencies) | 17:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How tenant isolation works (and possible bugs/inconsistencies) (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:17 | |
| jaypipes | if everyone could give a quick read through the above bug, that would be great | 17:17 |
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| afazekas | https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L162 is it needed ? | 17:18 |
| chunwang | yes, let me introduce the background. The issues found in our deployed enviornments, both E & F version openstack. | 17:18 |
| chunwang | many instances/image snapshots/security groups are seens after the test running in dashboard. Seems the teardown function is not working properly. | 17:19 |
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| sdague | so there is also a real bug in that code | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: do you have details on which tests? the tenant will be named for the test... | 17:20 |
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| chunwang | err..actually many cases are using rand_name('tenant‘) as tenant name in the script | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: AFAICT, yes, since the devstack install of tempest will now create the config file. | 17:21 |
| chunwang | I suppose the script name I mentioned in bug. If it's really necessary, I may duplicate the issue and figure it out | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: any test that derives from the base test classes should not be doing that... so it is a bug if they are not doing so. | 17:22 |
| chunwang | ok, then there is another bug... | 17:23 |
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| jaypipes | chunwang: I think we'll need to do some deeper investigation into this and figure out if any tests are leaving side effects if tenant_isolation is enabled (none of them should, and it is a bug if they do...) | 17:24 |
| chunwang | so the error may happens when the test instance/imagesnapshot is not created in base classes? | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: you mean if/when a fixture gets created in the setUpClass() methods, I presume? | 17:25 |
| sdague | chunwang: that execption you see in the logs is going to mean the final stages of cleanup don't happen | 17:25 |
| chunwang | yes | 17:25 |
| chunwang | I understand the teardown won't happen when case got errors | 17:25 |
| chunwang | but the tenant not delete issue I saw is when cases all passed | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: right, and that's the one I'm concerned about... | 17:26 |
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| jaypipes | chunwang: OK, I will do a deeper investigation this afternoon on this issue, ok? | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | chunwang: and I'll update the bug report with my findings. | 17:27 |
| chunwang | sure. if any help or information needed, I will provide | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | cool. | 17:28 |
| jaypipes | OK, so, shall we move on to discuss dwalleck's server actions patch? or is there any other topic folks would like to discuss before that? | 17:28 |
| afazekas | jaypipes: this was the second time when the ./tools/configure_tempest.sh called, first it is called by https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate.sh#L150, you can see in the log the double config: search for example this sting 'source /opt/stack/devstack/lib/database' , here http://logs.openstack.org/17256/3/check/gate-tempest-devstack-vm/21128/console.html.gz | 17:29 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: We should discuss how to get the full (or at least almost full) gate on all prjojects. | 17:29 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Another nova bug slipped through yesterday. | 17:29 |
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| davidkranz | The biggest issue, other than some slow tests, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 | 17:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: unless I'm mistaken, I believe you should be able to remove all calls to tools/configure_tempest.sh after your devstack patch lands | 17:30 |
| davidkranz | which fails the hourly tempest build several times per day. | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | #topic Blockers for enabling the full gate on core projects | 17:30 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: There has not been any progress on this bug as far as I can see. | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: one sec, reading into bug | 17:30 |
| dwalleck | davidkranz: I don't know if I'd say those are Tempest issues. In my experience, servers going into error status have always been Nova issues | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | dwalleck: Yes, the bug if a nova bug ticket. | 17:31 |
| dwalleck | ahh, sorry | 17:31 |
| * dwalleck is not fully awake yet | 17:31 | |
| sdague | davidkranz: is that related to any of the other nova bugs? | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | sdague: I don't think so. | 17:31 |
| sdague | I thought the blocker was a different issue | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: strange that all those failures are the XML server tests, not the JSON ones... | 17:31 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: I am not sure that is true. The failures are flaky. | 17:32 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: They happen in various places. | 17:32 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: oh, ok... | 17:32 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: You can ssee a lot of stuff at https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/periodic-tempest-devstack-vm-check-hourly/? if you want. | 17:33 |
| davidkranz | IMO, this should be the highest priority for some one on the nova team. | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: k, will look further into it. do we have the rabbit logs somewhere? | 17:33 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: agreed about priority. | 17:33 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Yes, all the logs are at http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/periodic-tempest-devstack-vm-check-hourly/ | 17:34 |
| jaypipes | vishy_zz: can we get some prioritization on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 ? | 17:34 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] | 17:34 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: Whether there is enough info in them is a different issue. | 17:34 |
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| jaypipes | perhaps russellb would be able to look into the RPC issues and help us investigate | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: More instrumentation may need to be added. | 17:35 |
| sdague | ok, I'll talk to mtreinish about it, he was chasing what I thought was the blocking bug for tempest gate :) | 17:35 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: sure, agreed. I'm hoping russellb or vishy_zz can tell us what info they would need to diagnose... | 17:35 |
| sdague | but i'll ask him to dive in on it | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | sdague: Which did you think it was? | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | sdague: The log error bugs are desirable for better test monitoring but things ca proceed without that. | 17:36 |
| sdague | davidkranz: I don't know at the moment | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | sdague, davidkranz: I was having trouble reproducing it. But, I got sidetracked on coverage extension stuff for a while so I haven't put much time into it. | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | vishy_zz: had a theory that it was related to the instance getting deleted during bring up | 17:37 |
| jaypipes | actually, eglynn is also a good resource for digging into these tricky issues... Eoghan, feel like helping out? :) | 17:37 |
| davidkranz | mtreinish: It only fails maybe 10-15% of the time. | 17:37 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: I was going to do this but forgot. I should be able to report the reason the server went into error status as well. The reason is in the GET response, so it should be easy to tag on to the fault. I have it partially done, just having some issues with the text population | 17:37 |
| sdague | davidkranz: the issue is making nova the right amount of slow for it to show up | 17:37 |
| sdague | it's definitely a race | 17:37 |
| eglynn | jaypipes: yep, I can look later on or tmrw (on a train ATM, dodgy wifi coverage ...) | 17:38 |
| davidkranz | sdague: OK. I just wanted to make sure some one was looking at it with nova smarts. | 17:38 |
| jaypipes | eglynn: :) thx man! | 17:38 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: I think we can move on then. | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I will write a mailing list post about the above bug and try to get priortization. | 17:39 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Great. | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | #action jaypipes to write ML post about bug 1079687 | 17:39 |
| sdague | we can take that into the nova meeting this afternoon as well | 17:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079687 | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | kk | 17:39 |
| jaypipes | #topic dwalleck patch for refactoring server actions tests | 17:40 |
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| jaypipes | dwalleck: OK, I want to understand better your overall plan for these patches. | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: starting with the impetus behind the patches | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: more specifically, I'm curious about this in the commit msg: "next patch will break the singe test method into each test class into distinct test methods" | 17:42 |
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| dwalleck | Right... | 17:42 |
| dwalleck | And this is where I wish I had a whiteboard | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | heh | 17:43 |
| jaypipes | just do your best | 17:43 |
| sdague | dwalleck: etherpads work pretty well :) | 17:43 |
| dwalleck | Let me go for the direct answer first and try to hit the whys along the way | 17:43 |
| dwalleck | Good call! There's an OpenStack etherpad, right? Anyone have a link so we could pop one open? | 17:43 |
| sdague | http://etherpad.openstack.org | 17:44 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: http://etherpad.openstack.org/RefactorServerActionsTest | 17:44 |
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| dwalleck | Okay, so this is test_server_actions right now.... | 17:45 |
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| chunwang | haha...it's doing well | 17:46 |
| dwalleck | so there's a few of the test methods, along with the assertions in one test | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: are you referring to the existing smoke test (test_basic_server_ops)? or something else that currently is not a smoke test -- /tempest/tests/compute/test_server_actions.py? | 17:46 |
| jaypipes | afazekas: glance boto patch merged... | 17:47 |
| dwalleck | The problem I'm trying to solve is that there are many differing assertions in one test. Let me give you a larger scale, what I'd like to get in Tempest problem... | 17:47 |
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| dwalleck | So if one small part of test_resize_server_confirm fails, I don't want the whole test to fail | 17:49 |
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| dwalleck | I want the specific part that is invalid to be documented, but let the reports show that everything else is fine | 17:49 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: ah, I see... so my next question would be, why not use the smoke.SmokeTest base classes for these, since the test methods for these test cases will be order-dependent? | 17:49 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: Actually in this case they wouldn't be. Let me draw... | 17:50 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: it seems you just want more detailed test methods, in a specific order. | 17:50 |
| dwalleck | not necessarily in a specific order, but more detailed, yes | 17:51 |
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| dwalleck | I see your point, this is something Sam and my guys have gone back and forth about....the point he made to me is not that I was trying to test the change password request itself, but the results | 17:52 |
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| dwalleck | So the fixture prepares the scenario and test verifies the results | 17:53 |
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| jaypipes | dwalleck: and what happens when something errors in preparing the scenario (building the fixture)? | 17:54 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: And you're right, you can do that with ordered tests, which once we ditch nose and move to plain unit test you can do by overloading the load_tests method of the class | 17:54 |
| dwalleck | So this is one way (without having that) that my guys devised a way to work around it | 17:54 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: The fixture fails, so none of the tests for it run. This makes sense because if the server failed to create, that's something different than the password failing to change | 17:55 |
| dwalleck | So, back out of the solution I proposed. The problem I'm trying to solve is precise failure of tests, which makes working with results easier | 17:57 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: ok, I'm getting you... I guess it's difficult to see without the code, but I'm open to the direction you're going. | 17:57 |
| dwalleck | How about this. Lets hold off, and let me get a full, real example for folks to look at | 17:57 |
| chunwang | seems the change is too large if it's only for get more detailed test results. <-- just my opinion... | 17:58 |
| dwalleck | We can discuss on the mailing list and get into more details | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: yeah, how about this: | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: focus on a complete example for just *one* of the actions (change_password for example) | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: and complete it out | 17:59 |
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| dwalleck | can do | 17:59 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: then we can see the whole picture for a full scenario | 17:59 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: kk. | 17:59 |
| dwalleck | I'll get something out before the weekend | 17:59 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: bottom line, I definitely support the goal of getting more detailed results, decoupling results processing from fixture setup, and parallelizing stuff... just need an easier-to-consume-and-review patch :) | 18:00 |
| jaypipes | alright, we're at one hour right now... | 18:00 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: I think we are out of time, but we should discuss the blueprints next week. | 18:00 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: kk, agreed. | 18:00 |
| dwalleck | sounds good | 18:00 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I think we made some good progress today, though... I will send out a status report to the ML | 18:00 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: sorry for being absent the last few weeks... | 18:01 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: NP. It happens to all of us :) | 18:01 |
| jaypipes | alright folks, see you all next week! | 18:01 |
| jaypipes | #endmeeting | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 6 18:01:42 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-06-17.00.html | 18:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-06-17.00.txt | 18:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2012/qa.2012-12-06-17.00.log.html | 18:01 |
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| russellb | nova meeting time | 21:00 |
| russellb | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 6 21:00:28 2012 UTC. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| russellb | Greetings, all. | 21:00 |
| russellb | who's around | 21:00 |
| dansmith | <- here, with really bad bug stats, fair warning. | 21:00 |
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| dprince | hi | 21:00 |
| comstud | here, but sick. | 21:01 |
| markmc | hey | 21:01 |
| russellb | comstud: bummer, sorry :( | 21:01 |
| russellb | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/Nova | 21:01 |
| comstud | ya, sux.. i'm out of town too | 21:01 |
| russellb | #topic project updates | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "project updates (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mikal | Ahoy! | 21:01 |
| sdague | <- here | 21:01 |
| russellb | comstud: let's hit cells first | 21:01 |
| comstud | ok | 21:01 |
| russellb | comstud: what's the latest on cells | 21:01 |
| comstud | so close to done, but.. i've done nothing but slept the last 2 days :) | 21:02 |
| russellb | yeah, priorities :) | 21:02 |
| comstud | i mean, done reworking | 21:02 |
| comstud | but it's looking much better to me | 21:02 |
| russellb | great | 21:02 |
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| russellb | grizzly-2 is January 10th, i think we should aim for that | 21:02 |
| comstud | tests might be a pain to re-work | 21:02 |
| russellb | still a good amount of time, but holidays will eat some of that | 21:03 |
| comstud | yea | 21:03 |
| comstud | i'm not going anywhere | 21:03 |
| comstud | but i might not get reviews | 21:03 |
| comstud | :) | 21:03 |
| russellb | heh, i'm not going anywhere either, but technically i'll be off | 21:03 |
| russellb | i can review anyway | 21:03 |
| comstud | so dedicated | 21:03 |
| mikal | I'll be around too, not that I've reviewed much cells stuff. The 3,500 line one scares me. | 21:03 |
| russellb | and they don't have christmas in the southern hemisphere, so mikal can review too | 21:03 |
| mikal | :P | 21:04 |
| comstud | the 3500 line one may be more lines when i'm done here | 21:04 |
| dansmith | is that because the trees don't stand upside down well? | 21:04 |
| comstud | but easier to follow | 21:04 |
| comstud | not sure, haven't diffed it yet | 21:04 |
| comstud | but hey, that one started out at 4500 i think | 21:04 |
| russellb | comstud: cool, i saw you have a lot of reviews on later patches | 21:04 |
| mikal | dansmith: don't make me kangaroo you up the billabong | 21:04 |
| russellb | some approved already, which is kind of odd | 21:04 |
| comstud | yeah | 21:04 |
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| comstud | haha yeah | 21:04 |
| russellb | not sure how you can approve something that depends on something you didn't review :) | 21:05 |
| dansmith | mikal: heh, you all have kangaroos as pets, right? | 21:05 |
| comstud | i wasn't going to complain about it | 21:05 |
| russellb | so next week updated patches perhaps? if you're feeling better? | 21:05 |
| russellb | comstud: heh, i wouldn't either.. | 21:05 |
| comstud | yeah | 21:05 |
| russellb | ok, cool, anything else you want to discuss? | 21:05 |
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| comstud | nothing on my mind other than baremetal has caused a lot of pain :) | 21:05 |
| comstud | bugs | 21:05 |
| russellb | aw | 21:06 |
| comstud | but that's just a comment. | 21:06 |
| russellb | that's the other big project we've been hitting in this meeting | 21:06 |
| comstud | yeah | 21:06 |
| comstud | continue on | 21:06 |
| russellb | anyone care to comment on the status there? | 21:06 |
| comstud | i'm good | 21:06 |
| dansmith | I'm afraid to go near baremetal because most of them have one green check | 21:06 |
| russellb | comstud: what kind of bugs have hit you? | 21:06 |
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| russellb | so we know what to watch out for better | 21:06 |
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| russellb | in the context of cells, or you mean in general? | 21:07 |
| russellb | i remember a resource tracker issue, delaying setting 'node' until after resources were claimed | 21:07 |
| russellb | oookay. :) | 21:08 |
| russellb | so couple other specific projects ... | 21:09 |
| russellb | boot from volume improvements | 21:09 |
| comstud | russellb: reisze stuff and resource tracker stuff | 21:09 |
| russellb | comstud: ah ok | 21:09 |
| comstud | both might hav been resource tracker | 21:09 |
| comstud | basically... | 21:09 |
| comstud | has to do with adding of 'node' | 21:09 |
| russellb | sorry :) | 21:09 |
| comstud | to compute_nodes | 21:09 |
| russellb | right | 21:09 |
| russellb | so boot from volume ... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-boot-from-volume | 21:10 |
| russellb | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/improve-boot-from-volume | 21:10 |
| russellb | nikola wanted to discuss it, but i don't see him here | 21:10 |
| russellb | probably because his first big patch has been merged since asking for it to be on the agenda | 21:10 |
| russellb | but i think there is still more work planned there | 21:10 |
| russellb | so, if you're interested take a look and respond to the ML thread about it | 21:10 |
| comstud | merge and flee | 21:10 |
| russellb | heh | 21:10 |
| comstud | (that's what i'm going to do when cells lands) | 21:10 |
| russellb | alexpilotti requested discussing get-password (vishy's branch) | 21:10 |
| dansmith | drive-by patching? | 21:10 |
| comstud | yeah | 21:11 |
| russellb | but since vishy is out today, let's push it to next week | 21:11 |
| alexpilotti | fine | 21:11 |
| russellb | or you can always post to the ML in the meantime | 21:11 |
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| russellb | lots of stuff in progress on https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:11 |
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| russellb | only 2 not started | 21:12 |
| russellb | 1 is a lie, because i started it this week | 21:12 |
| russellb | i think the block device handling one may still be looking for a volunteer | 21:12 |
| russellb | so, take a look if you're not busy enough already :) | 21:12 |
| russellb | #topic nova bugs | 21:12 |
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| russellb | #link http://webnumbr.com/untouched-nova-bugs | 21:13 |
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| russellb | 27 | 21:13 |
| mikal | http://www.stillhq.com/openstack/nova/triage-20121207.txt | 21:13 |
| russellb | about where we've been hovering | 21:13 |
| * russellb awards mikal with the nova-bugs gold star of the week | 21:13 | |
| markmc | ah come on, I triaged 2! | 21:13 |
| russellb | hurrah mikal | 21:13 |
| mikal | LOL | 21:13 |
| markmc | before making the tragic mistaking of fixing one :) | 21:13 |
| russellb | markmc: bug in the script! | 21:13 |
| russellb | it's rigged! | 21:13 |
| markmc | which ended the triaging session | 21:13 |
| mikal | There are a bunch of bugs I haven't had a chance to get to | 21:13 |
| sdague | heh | 21:14 |
| dansmith | russellb: I have something for grizzly-2 I think, | 21:14 |
| mikal | russellb: its on github! Fix it! | 21:14 |
| russellb | dansmith: ok one sec | 21:14 |
| dansmith | russellb: would it be okay if we have a blueprint for removing all direct db calls from manager? presumably to be complete around then... | 21:14 |
| dprince | man. I feel like a slacker. | 21:14 |
| russellb | dansmith: oh, um ... yeah, as a child blueprint under no-db-compute? | 21:14 |
| russellb | dansmith: that makes sense. | 21:14 |
| russellb | dansmith: that's going to be tight, but a good goal, and we better make it if we want to finish by grizzly-3 ... | 21:15 |
| dansmith | russellb: just trying to have enough steps in the process so we can point to public blueprints to show status | 21:15 |
| sdague | on the bugs topic, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 is the last thing which is blocking tempest gate on nova. And given that a nova bug that tempest would have caught slipped in last week, it would be nice to get more eyes on it. | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] | 21:15 |
| russellb | dansmith: good idea, file away | 21:15 |
| dansmith | russellb: okay, thanks | 21:15 |
| russellb | dansmith: and link me so i can press buttons | 21:15 |
| russellb | i hate "flaky" bugs, heh | 21:16 |
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| sdague | yes, agreed | 21:16 |
| dansmith | russellb: do I need to do something to make it a proper child? | 21:16 |
| sdague | it appears nova has to be a very specific kind of slow to trigger it | 21:16 |
| dansmith | no-db-virt never got to be related in that way | 21:16 |
| russellb | dansmith: there is a dependencies section somewhere ... down lower on the page once it's filed I think | 21:16 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:16 |
| russellb | may have to be done from no-db-compute? i can't remember | 21:17 |
| russellb | #help need eyes on this bug, the last thing blocking the tempest gate on nova - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] | 21:17 |
| dansmith | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/no-db-compute-manager | 21:18 |
| russellb | dansmith: thanks, i'll get it in grizzly-2 after meeting | 21:18 |
| dansmith | russellb: I think you need to edit the deps on no-db-compute, because I can edit deps for the one I filed, but not the main one | 21:18 |
| dansmith | russellb: and if you do, can you add no-db-virt as well? | 21:18 |
| russellb | sdague: let's push through remaining discussion, and if there's time left we can group-analyze the bug some :) | 21:18 |
| russellb | dansmith: ack, fine with me | 21:19 |
| sdague | I'm fine with that | 21:19 |
| dansmith | thanks | 21:19 |
| russellb | anything else on bugs? | 21:19 |
| markmc | bug day next week? | 21:19 |
| markmc | squashing day | 21:19 |
| mikal | That sounds like a good idea | 21:19 |
| dansmith | dang, I was hoping for a bug-writing day | 21:19 |
| russellb | yeah, i like that | 21:19 |
| markmc | I think ttx is organizing one | 21:20 |
| sdague | sure, we're due for one | 21:20 |
| russellb | markmc: oh? ok great ... yeah, we've got a bunch we can work through | 21:20 |
| russellb | i'm seeing good legit stuff every time i go triage some | 21:20 |
| markmc | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-12-04-21.02.html | 21:20 |
| markmc | #info Doc Bug day December 6, Regular Bug day December 13 | 21:20 |
| markmc | #link Doc Bug day December 6, Regular Bug day December 13 | 21:21 |
| markmc | #undo | 21:21 |
| markmc | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-12-04-21.02.html | 21:21 |
| russellb | nice, so we can check out our progress in the next nova meeting :) | 21:21 |
| russellb | so everyone put it on your calendar to block out unnecessary meetings :) | 21:22 |
| sdague | and mikal will be asleep while the rest of us are working, so someone might beat him | 21:22 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:22 |
| russellb | so, as usual, if everyone could triage something this week, that'd be a great help | 21:23 |
| russellb | still not enough names on the bug triage reports | 21:23 |
| russellb | especially important this week if we're going to squash next thursday | 21:23 |
| russellb | the better the bug list, the more productive we can be | 21:23 |
| russellb | and with that ... | 21:23 |
| comstud | yes sir | 21:23 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 21:23 |
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| russellb | open discussion until we have nothing left, and then whoever wants to stick around, we can spend some time trying to troubleshoot this tempest gate blocker | 21:24 |
| russellb | awesome. | 21:25 |
| russellb | everyone is happy! | 21:25 |
| dprince | what is the tempest gate blocker? | 21:25 |
| comstud | welllll | 21:25 |
| dprince | I'm not. Python-keystoneclient ruined my day. | 21:26 |
| russellb | dprince: sdague brought up this bug earlier, said it was the last bug blocking being able to gate on the whole tempest suite - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1079687 | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079687 in nova "Flaky failures of instances to reach BUILD and ACTIVE states" [Undecided,New] | 21:26 |
| russellb | aw | 21:26 |
| comstud | i don't understand 'to reach BUILD' part of that | 21:26 |
| comstud | instances are created in BUILD state. | 21:26 |
| sdague | dprince: it's a race in tempest which gets triggered by exactly how slow the ci nodes are about 15% of the time | 21:26 |
| dprince | sdague: I run similar tests on the hour on bare metal and get fairly consistent results. | 21:27 |
| dprince | sdague: passes. | 21:27 |
| sdague | davidkranz has been running hourly gate jobs on ci, and it fails about 15% of the time | 21:27 |
| dprince | sdague: How do we know this isn't some sort of IO bound... public cloud type failure? | 21:27 |
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| sdague | dprince: we don't, however, we can't light the gate on CI if it isn't repeatable on CI | 21:28 |
| dprince | sdague: I'm happy to take a closer look at it offline. | 21:28 |
| sdague | cool | 21:29 |
| russellb | thanks dprince | 21:29 |
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| dprince | Yep. Sunil might also be able to help look into this as well (I'll point it out to him here shortly) | 21:29 |
| russellb | well, sounds like we have some eyes on it then ... | 21:30 |
| russellb | anything else before we #endmeeting? | 21:31 |
| dansmith | do it! | 21:31 |
| russellb | anyone want to shamelessly plug their review of choice? | 21:31 |
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| sdague | oh mtreinish's coverage patch should get a review | 21:32 |
| dprince | what about ones we don't like? | 21:32 |
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| russellb | dprince: that's fair too | 21:32 |
| sdague | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14468/ | 21:32 |
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| sdague | plug for review | 21:32 |
| russellb | dprince: you can have on the record that you really don't like something :) | 21:32 |
| dansmith | now I'm curious... | 21:32 |
| russellb | ah yes, that's a good one | 21:32 |
| mtreinish | sdague: thanks for the plug | 21:32 |
| mtreinish | too fast | 21:33 |
| dprince | I'll stay quiet... :) for now. | 21:33 |
| russellb | dprince: oh come onnnn | 21:33 |
| russellb | stir the pot | 21:33 |
| sdague | dprince: plug for -2 ? | 21:33 |
| dansmith | dprince: come on, I wanna see if it's the same one I'm thinking of :) | 21:33 |
| dprince | shhhh. | 21:34 |
| dprince | it is a secret | 21:34 |
| russellb | heh, ok.. | 21:34 |
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| sdague | I'd also plug clarb's testr - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15078/ | 21:34 |
| sdague | which is close, he might have the last fix in a different review now | 21:34 |
| dansmith | sdague: you've had enough | 21:34 |
| sdague | hey, I like running the unit tests in 42 seconds | 21:34 |
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| russellb | sdague: +1 | 21:35 |
| russellb | i'm very happy about that ... | 21:35 |
| russellb | the time part anyway | 21:35 |
| comstud | i don't like that our clients do caching and use keyring by default. | 21:35 |
| comstud | it's extremely annoying and has bitten me a number of times. | 21:35 |
| comstud | (just noticing some of dprince's patches to fix that somewhat for keystoneclient) | 21:36 |
| sdague | actually, specifically other eyes on this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17639/ which is the fix, would be good | 21:36 |
| sdague | then the testr one should pass | 21:36 |
| comstud | was trying to find a patch of dprince's to pick on | 21:36 |
| comstud | but can't find one :-/ | 21:36 |
| comstud | :) | 21:36 |
| dprince | hold on... I'l give them to you: | 21:37 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17630/ | 21:37 |
| dprince | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17634/ | 21:37 |
| comstud | oh no, i found those | 21:37 |
| dprince | And... FTR that is why python-keystoneclient ruined my day. | 21:37 |
| comstud | i meant i can't pick on them | 21:37 |
| comstud | because i agree | 21:37 |
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| comstud | i want novaclient to have cache/keyring off by default. | 21:39 |
| russellb | alright, well guess we're wrapped up | 21:39 |
| comstud | :-/ | 21:39 |
| russellb | or not | 21:39 |
| comstud | it's not important | 21:39 |
| russellb | comstud: propose it and see what happens? :) | 21:39 |
| comstud | hehe ya | 21:39 |
| russellb | we can continue ranting over in -nova :) | 21:40 |
| russellb | thanks for coming all | 21:40 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 6 21:40:31 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-06-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-06-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2012/nova.2012-12-06-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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