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| shivharis | DanW: After quite some time I have finally be able to get myself on the contributers list, however I am still not able to upload my code for review, do you know some ops person who can tell me what may be going wrong - i have literally tried everything and have hit a dead end. | 17:29 |
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| clarkb | shivharis: can you join us in #openstack-infra ? we can sort this problem out there | 17:31 |
| shivharis | clarkb: will do right away. | 17:31 |
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| annegentle | o/ | 20:00 |
| annegentle | anyone around for the doc team meeting? | 20:00 |
| * annegentle hears an echo echo echo | 20:01 | |
| annegentle | I'll make it quick for note taking purposes then | 20:02 |
| annegentle | #startmeeting Doc/Web meeting | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 8 20:02:24 2012 UTC. The chair is annegentle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'doc_web_meeting' | 20:02 |
| annegentle | Agenda at http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting | 20:02 |
| annegentle | #topic Action items from last meeting | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting" | 20:02 | |
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| annegentle | dwcramer to propose a doc tool how-to session for Summit - Done, but he can't come to it after all, so regretfully declined | 20:03 |
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| annegentle | wabat to propose a doc bug triage and information seeking session for Summit - Done, scheduled for the 9:50 slot | 20:04 |
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| annegentle | and that was it for actions | 20:04 |
| annegentle | #topic Folsom doc bugs status | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Folsom doc bugs status" | 20:04 | |
| annegentle | Just 8 doc bugs left unassigned | 20:05 |
| annegentle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/folsom | 20:05 |
| annegentle | Pick some up if you can - Keystone SSL for example | 20:05 |
| annegentle | #topic Defining "done" | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Defining "done"" | 20:06 | |
| annegentle | I had hoped to discuss how we measure doneness of documentation for a release. Let's talk about it at the Summit. | 20:06 |
| annegentle | speaking of the Summit | 20:06 |
| annegentle | #topic Summit schedule | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit schedule" | 20:06 | |
| annegentle | Sessions are scheduled for Monday morning Doc track. | 20:07 |
| annegentle | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/san-diego-2012/openstack-summit-sessions/ | 20:07 |
| annegentle | Moving on | 20:07 |
| annegentle | #topic Doc tools | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Doc tools" | 20:07 | |
| annegentle | Look for 1.6.0 of the maven plugin to be released soon. Release notes will show what's new, some bugs are going to help us debug builds. | 20:08 |
| annegentle | #link https://github.com/rackspace/clouddocs-maven-plugin | 20:08 |
| annegentle | Once 1.6.0 is released, we'll want to update our pom.xml files and test. | 20:08 |
| dwcramer | Yes, there are some changes in 1.6.0 that will affect poms. | 20:09 |
| dwcramer | But they should make life easier going forward. | 20:09 |
| annegentle | I hope we can do it all at once with a release for "Folsom" but want to get a definition of "done" in order to cut the Folsom doc release | 20:09 |
| dwcramer | In particular, you won't have to add any code to copy images to webhelp anymore. Same with pdfs. | 20:09 |
| annegentle | yippee, I'm looking forward to this one | 20:09 |
| annegentle | okay, that's all I've got with the Summit so close. | 20:10 |
| annegentle | #topic Open discussion | 20:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 20:10 | |
| annegentle | Happy Columbus day? | 20:11 |
| annegentle | #info Looking forward to the Summit - let me know if you want to have a Doc meet up. | 20:11 |
| annegentle | Okay, that's all I've got! | 20:12 |
| annegentle | #endmeeting | 20:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 20:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 8 20:12:24 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-10-08-20.02.html | 20:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-10-08-20.02.txt | 20:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/doc_web_meeting/2012/doc_web_meeting.2012-10-08-20.02.log.html | 20:12 |
| annegentle | back to my day off :) | 20:12 |
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| danwent | hi folks | 20:59 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 20:59 |
| rkukura | hi | 20:59 |
| amotoki | good morning | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
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| zhuadl | hi | 21:00 |
| mestery_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| gongysh | hi | 21:00 |
| EmilienM | good evening :) | 21:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 8 21:00:49 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:00 |
| zykes- | Aloha. | 21:01 |
| danwent | #info agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Hello! | 21:01 |
| danwent | Ok, should be a pretty short meeting | 21:01 |
| garyk | hi | 21:01 |
| danwent | summit in next week | 21:01 |
| markvoelker | \o/ | 21:01 |
| danwent | but before we talk about that, wanted to talk a bit about folsom release | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | hello! | 21:01 |
| danwent | garyk is going to be point on working with the openstack stable-maint team | 21:02 |
| danwent | we should all help garyk by making sure bugs that are relevant to folsom are marked with folsom-backport-potential | 21:02 |
| danwent | here is the current list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-backport-potential | 21:02 |
| danwent | A recently filed issue that I wanted to call attention to is https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1062046 | 21:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1062046 in quantum "There is a lot of cases that API with an invalid parameter returns 500." [High,Confirmed] | 21:03 |
| danwent | basically, there are a lot of cases, particularly around IPAM stuff, were we don't perform proper validation | 21:03 |
| danwent | causing exceptions where we should return 400s | 21:03 |
| danwent | would be great if someone could take on doing some validation clean-up… free brownie points :P | 21:04 |
| garyk | danwent: i can take a look at it. | 21:04 |
| danwent | garyk: great, thx | 21:04 |
| salv-orlando | I'll do that if you give me a real brownie | 21:04 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: sorry, virtual brownies only | 21:04 |
| nati_ueno | heyyo | 21:04 |
| danwent | are there other folsom bug issues we need to talk about? | 21:04 |
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| arosen | hi | 21:05 |
| danwent | at this point, the biggest issues seem to be a need to expand the docs, so please try to keep filing and fixing issues within openstack-manuals (search for tags 'quantum' and 'netconn-api') | 21:05 |
| garyk | danwent: 1060559 | 21:05 |
| garyk | i have seen a number of issues here. | 21:06 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1060559 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1060559 in quantum "l3_agent not disabling namespace use" [High,Fix committed] | 21:06 |
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| garyk | some are related to documentation. others need to be discussed a bit more - for example i have managed to reproduce a case where the tag was not assigned to a device. | 21:07 |
| garyk | this happens when the provider networks do not find matching devices - for example after reboot. | 21:07 |
| garyk | i'll try and sum it up tomorrow | 21:07 |
| danwent | garyk: interesting. is it related to the issue you mention above? | 21:07 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1060559 | 21:08 |
| danwent | ? | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1060559 in quantum "l3_agent not disabling namespace use" [High,Fix committed] | 21:08 |
| garyk | danwent: no. i was just following mails and trying to reproduce the problems found. i stumbled on the tag issue and connectivity problems | 21:08 |
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| danwent | ah, ok. | 21:09 |
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| rkukura | garyk: is there a bug filed for this tag issue? | 21:09 |
| garyk | rkukura: not yet. i'll open it tomorrow | 21:09 |
| danwent | ok, it sounds significant, so this may be the first issue that really requires us to do a stable release. let's track this via email. | 21:10 |
| danwent | or better yet, get a placeholder bug that we can send out a link to now | 21:10 |
| gongysh | I think we already filed one but we cannot reproduce it before. | 21:10 |
| danwent | so that everyone can subscribe that cares about it. | 21:11 |
| garyk | the bug has most of the details. some are not related most are documentation issues | 21:11 |
| amotoki | gongysh: which one? | 21:11 |
| danwent | gongysh: yes, we used to, though we thought that it was due to something else. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: I think you filed it a few days before RC-1, is that correct? | 21:11 |
| gongysh | yes | 21:11 |
| danwent | my guess is that there have been multiple bugs, all that result in the same behavior of a port not being properly tagged | 21:11 |
| danwent | let's open a fresh bug for this one | 21:12 |
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| gongysh | fine with ne wone. | 21:12 |
| gongysh | one | 21:12 |
| garyk | i'll provide the details tomorrow | 21:12 |
| danwent | ok, garyk, can you file a place holder so we can all register as watchers, and provide details tomorrow? | 21:12 |
| garyk | danwent: ok | 21:13 |
| danwent | ok, last call for folsom release follow-up | 21:13 |
| danwent | #topic grizzly summit | 21:13 |
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| danwent | #link http://www.openstack.org/summit/san-diego-2012/ | 21:13 |
| danwent | summit is next week, hope to see as many of you there as possible | 21:14 |
| danwent | we wanted to take a survey of how many folks will be available sunday night if we organize a quantum team hang-out | 21:14 |
| garyk | danwent: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1064070 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1064070 in quantum "tap device added to integration bridge without tag" [Undecided,New] | 21:14 |
| danwent | and if so, what time you think you'd get to the hotel and be available to meet up | 21:14 |
| danwent | garyk: thx | 21:14 |
| gongysh | I will be back on the 19 morning | 21:15 |
| garyk | danwent: i arrive at 7pm. need to get through immigration and from the airport. i'll be happy to meet up after i am trhough | 21:15 |
| danwent | yeah, trying to figure out if we should do a dinner, or just later drinkts | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | I'm there starting at lunch time | 21:15 |
| gongysh | I arrive on 14 | 21:15 |
| mnewby | 16h | 21:16 |
| rkukura | I get in at ~ 1:00 PM | 21:16 |
| markvoelker | danwent: I'm arriving Sunday night and might be able to make it for drinks | 21:16 |
| mestery | 19h | 21:16 |
| arosen | I get in ~6:14pm sunday | 21:16 |
| nati_ueno | I'm get in 6pm sunday | 21:16 |
| danwent | ok, so maybe we do something 8pm… | 21:17 |
| amotoki | around 6pm sunday. | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | I am on the 3PM flight from SJC | 21:17 |
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| salv-orlando | danwent: 8pm would be awesome | 21:17 |
| danwent | ok, let's shoot for that. I'll look for some bar/restaruant walking distance from the hotel | 21:18 |
| mestery | danwent: 8PM sounds pretty awesome. | 21:18 |
| danwent | we'll have food to nibble on, but not a formal sit-down meal | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | garyk: I promise I will wait for you for the first drink! | 21:18 |
| danwent | and of course, drinks :) | 21:18 |
| garyk | salv-orlando: great | 21:18 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: i bet I can get you to drink first... | 21:18 |
| danwent | :P | 21:18 |
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| danwent | ok, sounds like fun. I'll plan for maybe ~15 people. | 21:19 |
| mestery | danwent: Please provide enough drinks for 20 though. :) | 21:19 |
| danwent | ok, other summit topics (apparently its not all about eating/drinking/hanging-out) | 21:19 |
| danwent | mestery: you count for 5? P | 21:19 |
| danwent | :P | 21:20 |
| mestery | danwent: Ha! Is that a challenge? :) | 21:20 |
| danwent | so quantum sessions are monday/tuesday/wed only | 21:20 |
| * markvoelker vouches for mestery's virtual drinking ability | 21:20 | |
| danwent | info: at the request of the people who are participating but mainly focused on the load-balancing, those sessions will all be on tues/wed | 21:20 |
| danwent | #info There is a rough quantum schedule pushed to sched.org: http://www.openstack.org/summit/san-diego-2012/openstack-summit-sessions/ | 21:21 |
| danwent | #info: at the request of the people who are participating but mainly focused on the load-balancing, those sessions will all be on tues/wed | 21:21 |
| danwent | some sessions needed to be squeezed to half-sessions | 21:21 |
| danwent | for those, assume 20 minutes | 21:21 |
| danwent | a full session is 40 minutes | 21:21 |
| danwent | if you see your content scheduled as a full session, but think it might work as only a half-session, let me know | 21:22 |
| danwent | its always nice to have scheduling flexibility. | 21:22 |
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| danwent | Also, there's no NEED to fill up all 40 minutes… its ok if you end early and we have some time to chat. | 21:22 |
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| danwent | the expectation is that if you are in charge of a session, you at least have an outline of what you'd like to discussion, and a set of goals about what you'd like to achieve by the end of the session. | 21:23 |
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| danwent | you'll want to reserve time at the end of the session for questions/discussion as well as a chance to identify the group of people who may be interested in coordinating on future work. | 21:23 |
| danwent | a lot of people are sending me session presos / outlines for feedback. That's cool and I'll try to respond, but its a lot of content to review, so apologies if I don't get back to you quickly. | 21:24 |
| danwent | if you have a scheduling conflict, let me know ASAP. | 21:24 |
| mestery | danwent: Do you need help spreading the review load? | 21:25 |
| danwent | realize that there are main sessions (not just other design summit tracks) on tues/wed | 21:25 |
| danwent | mestery: i actually encourage folks to send out proposals more broadly to the team for feedback… probably more efficient | 21:25 |
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| danwent | certainly doesn't hurt to have more eyeballs before the summit itself | 21:26 |
| mestery | danwent: agreed, looking to free your cycles and spreading the load is #ftw | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | mestery, danwent: presentation could just be put on slideshare or any other public site before the summit - this will be useful for all attendees | 21:26 |
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| danwent | mestery: yeah, heaven forbid I should have time to think about my own sessions :P | 21:26 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: that's a good idea. | 21:26 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Great idea for sure! And folks will want the slides post-summit anyways, so this is the way to go. | 21:27 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: can you work to put together an etherpad as well? | 21:27 |
| danwent | if peole could link to their slides on the etherpad, that would be nice | 21:27 |
| danwent | there are a couple sessions that are technically "owned" by one person, but another person will be presenting. | 21:28 |
| danwent | i'll be sending folks emails later this week to make it very clear who is presenting in those cases. | 21:28 |
| danwent | ok… please get concerns about the schedule to me sometimes before start of day tuesday, so we can finalize the schedule | 21:29 |
| danwent | and remember that no single schedule is going to make everyone happy... | 21:29 |
| danwent | Ok, anything else on the summit? | 21:30 |
| rkukura | danwent: did you schedule anything on extensions? | 21:30 |
| danwent | unfortunately, the thursday deadline for scheduling new official sessions applies to everyone, including me, so I wasn't able to make an official new session. I think i tacked it on to another session though, let me check | 21:31 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: ah, i think we talked about that being a part of your API improvements session? | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | rkukura: it could be part of the API session | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: yep | 21:32 |
| rkukura | ok | 21:32 |
| danwent | yeah, i had added this: "Note: we will also discuss improvements to the internal DB model layer to better handle extensions. " | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | rkukura: happy to let you lead the discussion | 21:32 |
| rkukura | maybe that small bit | 21:32 |
| danwent | rkukura: another option would be stealing time from your module plugin slot, but I figured it was more API related, so I stuck it there | 21:32 |
| rkukura | I'll put together a slide or two for the API session, or any other opportunity | 21:33 |
| danwent | ok… also one note that there will be a quantum + horizon session on the horizon track | 21:33 |
| danwent | and the first sesion (tempest + quantum) is subject to the availability of tempest folks, which I still need to confirm | 21:34 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on summit schedule? | 21:34 |
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| nati_ueno | who owns' tempest+quantum session? | 21:34 |
| nati_ueno | ah sorry | 21:34 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: you do! | 21:34 |
| nati_ueno | typo | 21:34 |
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| mnewby | you :) | 21:35 |
| danwent | with help from mnewby :) | 21:35 |
| nati_ueno | horizon + quantum session | 21:35 |
| garyk | danwent: nati_ueno - it would be great if we can get dan prince in on this - he has smokestack running with nova. | 21:35 |
| nati_ueno | Sorry I do owns the session | 21:35 |
| garyk | this could be a great tool to test quantum running agents etc | 21:35 |
| nati_ueno | My quantum was 'who own's horizon + quantum session ? ' | 21:35 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: akihiro was going to help with the horizon + quantum stuff, but others are welcomed to pitch in too. | 21:36 |
| amotoki | nati_ueno: I can arrange it. | 21:36 |
| nati_ueno | garyk: Thanks! I'll keep in touch with that | 21:36 |
| garyk | nati_ueno: TX | 21:36 |
| garyk | thanks | 21:36 |
| nati_ueno | I implemented router pane. So I wanna demo it too | 21:36 |
| nati_ueno | for horizon session | 21:36 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: cool. that's definitely one of the key areas to discuss | 21:36 |
| danwent | ok, anything else on summit scheduling? | 21:37 |
| sharis | danwent: I missed out on where to find the schedule - would like to schedule a short 20 mins for my preso | 21:37 |
| nati_ueno | THis is poc https://github.com/nttmcl/horizon/tree/quantum-l3 | 21:37 |
| danwent | sharis: sorry, submission of new sessions has been closed since thurs. | 21:37 |
| danwent | you should be able to grab some unconference time though | 21:37 |
| sharis | ok | 21:37 |
| nati_ueno | akihiro: OK I'll ping you later | 21:38 |
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| danwent | sharis: ping me and i'll see if there's a related session you may be able to fit into. | 21:38 |
| sharis | ok. thx. will do. | 21:38 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 21:38 |
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| arosen | for open discussion nati_ueno and I have been working on the security group implementation which I'll upload shortly. These were targeted for folsom but were pushed out to grizzly. | 21:39 |
| danwent | anyone? | 21:39 |
| gongysh | any one on multi-host feature? | 21:39 |
| zykes- | mini ish announcement for puppet folks: https://github.com/ekarlso/puppet-vswitch https://github.com/EmilienM/openstack-quantum-puppet | 21:39 |
| danwent | gongysh: was going to cover that in the quantum/nova gaps section | 21:39 |
| nati_ueno | I'm on multi-host | 21:39 |
| danwent | i think nachi's "scheduler" session may touch on it as well. | 21:39 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Ah OK I got it | 21:39 |
| zykes- | happy automagication with puppet for vswitches / quantum | 21:39 |
| danwent | gongysh: if you want to talk about multi-host in particular though, I could give you a portion of of the quantum/nova gaps session | 21:40 |
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| danwent | ok, well, whomever is working on multi-host, let me know if you want to present on your thoughts during the quantum/nova gaps session | 21:40 |
| gongysh | I will talk with nati_neno first | 21:40 |
| danwent | gongysh: great… please cordinate and then ping me | 21:41 |
| gongysh | ok | 21:41 |
| danwent | i'm looking for anyone who wants to talk about metadata with overlapping Ips as well | 21:41 |
| danwent | as that is another item we'll cover in that session | 21:41 |
| danwent | ok, anything else? | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | danwent: I'll take metadata | 21:42 |
| danwent | #info we will NOT have an IRC meeting next week due to summit | 21:42 |
| danwent | markmcclain: cool. can you put together a few slides with thoughts on this? | 21:43 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks. see you in person next week! | 21:43 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 21:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 8 21:43:20 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:43 |
| nati_ueno | ty! | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-10-08-21.00.html | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | bye folks | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-10-08-21.00.txt | 21:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-10-08-21.00.log.html | 21:43 |
| markvoelker | See you next week in San Diego! | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | danwent: yes | 21:44 |
| garyk | bye. travel safe | 21:44 |
| danwent | markvoelker: you know what that means in spanish, right? | 21:44 |
| zhuadl | bye guys, don't forget paste your pictures :-) | 21:44 |
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| markvoelker | danwent: Heh. =] | 21:45 |
| danwent | i'm going to be doing my ron burgundy impression all week :P | 21:45 |
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| gongysh | danwent: any special meaning in spanish? | 21:45 |
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| danwent | gongysh: actually, i should have said german… its a quote from a movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT8sIT4vBUQ | 21:46 |
| gongysh | nati_ueno: do u have slides for your scheduler idea? | 21:46 |
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| gongysh | danwent: watching... | 21:48 |
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| nati_ueno | gongysh: Not yet. Sorry. I will brushup https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kisLDcWg_Mus5g8QzXMD4w7gWou-3t1drbOKTlYg6MU/edit | 21:50 |
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| gongysh | nati_ueno: I will ping u after I read it. thanks | 21:52 |
| nati_ueno | gongysh: I got it. I'll also ping it after I drafted. Thanks | 21:53 |
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