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| jd___ | somebody for the ceilometer meeting? | 16:02 |
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| gmb | jd___: I'm here, but only lurking really. | 16:02 |
| dricco | I'm here but as a nova volumes guy | 16:02 |
| jd___ | ok let's do this anyway :) | 16:03 |
| dricco | want to discuss stats for volumes | 16:03 |
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| jd___ | #startmeeting | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 19 16:03:44 2012 UTC. The chair is jd___. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
| jd___ | #link https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg14876.html | 16:04 |
| jd___ | #topic Last week action review | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last week action review" | 16:04 | |
| jd___ | #action jd to setup opa voting system to start on 26th and end on Aug 3rd | 16:05 |
| jd___ | nijaba had to post roadmap to mailing list, asking for feeback and volunteers | 16:05 |
| jd___ | #info nijaba asked for feedback on roadmap at http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg14398.html | 16:05 |
| jd___ | I had to add the type of meters in ceilometer meter code | 16:06 |
| jd___ | #info jd did it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10016/ | 16:06 |
| jd___ | #info nijaba added a table showing the state of integration for each OpenStack project http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/Ceilometer | 16:06 |
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| jd___ | #info nijaba adjusted the proposal to reflect a longer incubation period http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/Ceilometer | 16:06 |
| jd___ | no info from dhellmann so I'll reput action for next meeting | 16:07 |
| jd___ | #action dhellmann to get some feedback now about the sorts of meters users want from the mailing list | 16:07 |
| jd___ | 16:07 | |
| jd___ | #action dhellmann to open a bug and work on devstack integration | 16:07 |
| jd___ | #action dhellmann create a diagram of ceilometer architecture | 16:07 |
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| jd___ | #action dhellmann write a walk-through of setting up ceilometer and collecting data | 16:07 |
| jd___ | anything else? | 16:07 |
| jd___ | yeah, I though so, haha! | 16:08 |
| dricco | I'd like to discuss - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-usage-metering | 16:08 |
| jd___ | ok | 16:08 |
| dricco | if the floor is open? | 16:08 |
| jd___ | #topic discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-usage-metering | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-usage-metering" | 16:08 | |
| jd___ | sure let's go :) | 16:08 |
| dricco | We(hp) have a requirement in folsom to gather volume stats | 16:08 |
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| dricco | just wanted to tie in with ye guys | 16:08 |
| jd___ | let me read it :) | 16:09 |
| dricco | thx | 16:09 |
| jd___ | I think that's in our scope, indeed | 16:09 |
| jd___ | that's great you come to see us | 16:09 |
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| dricco | :-) | 16:09 |
| jd___ | we don't have any code to support nova-volume or cinder right now, but we plan to | 16:09 |
| jd___ | the architecture is in place to do so | 16:09 |
| jd___ | so the good answer is probably to contribute to ceilometer! ;) | 16:10 |
| dricco | ceilometer is post folsom, correct? | 16:10 |
| jd___ | yes | 16:10 |
| jd___ | we're trying to get into incubation for G, but it may even be later, we don't know yet | 16:10 |
| dricco | so I could do both :-) | 16:10 |
| jd___ | probably :) | 16:11 |
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| jd___ | how do you think you'll do this? I know we already plan to support nova volume using the notification system | 16:11 |
| dricco | i think there is some code already in ceilometer for polling disk io | 16:11 |
| jd___ | would it be the same in your opinion? | 16:11 |
| dricco | but i think it ignores volumes | 16:12 |
| jd___ | yes there is, but tight to libvirt for now | 16:12 |
| jd___ | indeed | 16:12 |
| jd___ | it ignores because we don't know how to request that information actually | 16:12 |
| jd___ | at least I don't :) | 16:12 |
| dricco | it's the same libvirt domblkstat call | 16:13 |
| dricco | we're more concerned with what I/O the user sees rather then our backend I/O | 16:13 |
| jd___ | ok I see | 16:13 |
| jd___ | so it's polling on attached volume | 16:14 |
| dricco | yup, can then one final poll on detach | 16:14 |
| dricco | can/and | 16:14 |
| lzyeval | so currently there is only diskio? do you have blueprints to implement volume usage info? | 16:14 |
| jd___ | yes, we probably miss an event to do the final poll indeed | 16:14 |
| lzyeval | for instance parsing the qcow2 allocation table to see how much space is left in a volume. | 16:15 |
| jd___ | dricco: do you now why the current code ignores nova-volume? because it's not something we wanted to do | 16:15 |
| jd___ | lzyeval: there's no blueprint/bug on our side for this so far, but we would create one for sure | 16:15 |
| lzyeval | jd___: great! | 16:16 |
| dricco | I'm working on the code for nova folsom at the moment : blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-usage-metering | 16:16 |
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| jd___ | lzyeval: do you want to take the action or would you like me to do it? | 16:16 |
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| dricco | I could use this as a proof of concept for ceilometer? | 16:17 |
| jd___ | dricco: sure | 16:17 |
| dricco | :-) | 16:17 |
| lzyeval | jd___: Well Intel is very interested in cinder and its notification | 16:17 |
| dricco | dricco3766 | 16:17 |
| jd___ | dricco: I don't know why the current code ignores volumes | 16:17 |
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| lzyeval | jd___: I'll discuss it with my team and maybe create a blueprint | 16:17 |
| jd___ | ok lzyeval | 16:18 |
| dricco | jd___: great thanks | 16:18 |
| jd___ | #action lzyeval create a blueprint to add counter for nova-volume disk usage retrieval | 16:18 |
| jd___ | so dricco do you have a timeframe, or something so we could follow up on your work? | 16:19 |
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| dricco | jd___: hopefully have some code out next week | 16:19 |
| dricco | a lot of the design is done, so hopefully no got-yas | 16:20 |
| jd___ | dricco: ok, nice, so we can rediscuss this during the next meeting if everything's fine :) | 16:20 |
| jd___ | hehe | 16:20 |
| dricco | jd___: perfect, I'll try to have something by then | 16:21 |
| jd___ | #action dricco work and reprt about nova-volume metering notification https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/volume-usage-metering | 16:22 |
| jd___ | so we won't forget that way | 16:22 |
| jd___ | is there anything else about this or any other topic ? | 16:22 |
| jd___ | well | 16:24 |
| jd___ | thanks for joining us dricco and lzyeval | 16:25 |
| dricco | thanks | 16:25 |
| jd___ | thanks for lurking gmb :) | 16:25 |
| jd___ | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| dricco | see ye need week | 16:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meeting channel. See http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings for schedule and http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/ for meeting logs" | 16:25 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 19 16:25:41 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-16.03.html | 16:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-16.03.txt | 16:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-16.03.log.html | 16:25 |
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| lzyeval | jd___: Where can I get the architecture diagram? | 16:26 |
| jd___ | lzyeval: http://wiki.openstack.org/EfficientMetering/ArchitectureProposalV1 | 16:26 |
| jd___ | lzyeval: we have a bit of documentation into the Git repository too | 16:26 |
| lzyeval | jd___: Thanks! | 16:26 |
| lzyeval | jd___: I'll check that out too. | 16:26 |
| jd___ | lzyeval: we're on #openstack-metering if you've any question, don't hesitate | 16:26 |
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| rohitk_1 | hey folks, is there a QA meeting today? | 17:09 |
| * dwalleck climbs out of a dark hole | 17:10 | |
| dwalleck | I'm pretty far out of the loop, but here | 17:10 |
| rohitk_1 | dwalleck: welcome! | 17:11 |
| rohitk_1 | any clues about the tempest gating job failures? | 17:11 |
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| dwalleck | no, Id need to talk to jaypipes | 17:13 |
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| rohitk_1 | okay | 17:13 |
| Ravikumar_hp | dwalleck - I remember you were working multi-thread tests . is there any files checked-in? | 17:14 |
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| dwalleck | Ravikumar_hp: I did, but the using of py.test was vetoed. I believe with the changed Jay has made to help avoid hiting quotas, there should not be many modifications made to make it work with nosetest | 17:15 |
| dwalleck | But as I'm using py.test here at Rack, I don't have an immediate answer. I'd have to go class by class to make the nosetest specific fixes | 17:16 |
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| Ravikumar_hp | I am wondering on status of Swift automation tests | 17:17 |
| * notmyname wonders about that too | 17:17 | |
| davidkranz | davidkranz: Here. | 17:18 |
| dwalleck | Jose has been making revisions as asked, but I know his time is limited. I may pick up that branch for him | 17:18 |
| rohitk_1 | start meeting pls | 17:18 |
| rohitk_1 | #startmeeting | 17:19 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 19 17:19:24 2012 UTC. The chair is rohitk_1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:19 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:19 |
| dwalleck | I actually can't stay, but I wanted to prove that I was still alive and chugging along. I'll work on resubmitting my last instance validation branch and the Swift tests before the end of the weekend | 17:20 |
| davidkranz | rohitk_1: I am working on the automated resource freeing thing to go in after your whitebox submission. | 17:21 |
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| dwalleck | Beyond that, I know there's been a lot of modifications around base test classes that don't match up with the Tempest code internally, so I'm going to have to figure out how I'm going to keep pushing tests without rewriting them | 17:21 |
| rohitk_1 | davidkranz: yeah, hope the gate jobs get fixed, they're preventing merges | 17:21 |
| davidkranz | rohitk_1: Ok. I didn't know that :( | 17:22 |
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| rohitk_1 | davidkranz: jaypipes is looking at it last what i know of | 17:22 |
| davidkranz | OK, maybe that's why he is not here. | 17:23 |
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| rohitk_1 | I wanted some suggestions on Cinder tests and how to approach them | 17:23 |
| rohitk_1 | i think we should have Cinder tests in parallel with it's newly forked development | 17:23 |
| davidkranz | rohitk_1: Well, the claim was that cinder is not really an API change. | 17:23 |
| rohitk_1 | luckily api is the same | 17:23 |
| rohitk_1 | only endpoints change | 17:24 |
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| davidkranz | rohitk: I agree. The tests can be the same now and as cinder changes they can be adapted. | 17:25 |
| rohitk | so I think there should just be a config option in Tempest to choose which Volume service needs to be tested | 17:25 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: But this depends on whether volumes is going to be deleted from Folsom | 17:25 |
| rohitk | n-vol/cinder endpoint | 17:25 |
| rohitk | right, which is still under discussion | 17:25 |
| davidkranz | If cinder is kept in Folsom we need to test both. | 17:25 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: Would it make sense to have this utility to run existing volume tests against Cinder, in Tempest now? | 17:26 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: Do you mean "ability to run ..."? | 17:27 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: well, I just meant a way to configure tempest to run against a selected Volume service | 17:27 |
| rohitk | depending on what's deployed in the devstack environment | 17:28 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: I was thinking we would run both and just skip if one is not available. | 17:28 |
| davidkranz | We couild make the volume client be a trivial subclass of cinder client. | 17:28 |
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| rohitk | davidkranz: existing tests should hold true for Cinder too, just the catalog type needs to change | 17:29 |
| rohitk | tp | 17:29 |
| rohitk | *to 'cinder' | 17:29 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: agreed | 17:29 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: OK | 17:30 |
| davidkranz | Anything else for now? | 17:30 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: no updates on the Fuzz test tool yet | 17:31 |
| rohitk | so it seems | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: How is working on that? | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: Who I mean | 17:31 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: pcrews?? | 17:32 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: not sure though | 17:32 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: I guess Jay or Daryl know. | 17:32 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: so until randgen is worked upon, are we accepting old style negative tests? | 17:33 |
| davidkranz | rohitk: I don't think we should be spending time on them. | 17:33 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: hmm | 17:33 |
| Ravikumar_hp | we had put hold on negative test development | 17:33 |
| davidkranz | Ravikumar_hp: Yes, we need to focus more on new Folsom features. | 17:33 |
| rohitk | davidkranz: All right, thanks! | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | The only real value I see is for targeted negative tests involving multi-tenant security issues. | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | fuzztesting can't deal with that. | 17:35 |
| davidkranz | But those are really positive security tests :) | 17:36 |
| davidkranz | I have to go very soon. Is there anything else. | 17:36 |
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| rohitk_1 | davidkranz: nope | 17:37 |
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| Ravikumar_hp | nope | 17:37 |
| davidkranz | OK, then we can adjourn for now. | 17:37 |
| rohitk_1 | thanks all! | 17:37 |
| rohitk_1 | #endmeeting | 17:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 19 17:37:48 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:37 |
| davidkranz | Thanks guys. | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-17.19.html | 17:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-17.19.txt | 17:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-19-17.19.log.html | 17:37 |
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