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| dachary | Hi, http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda is scheduled in 28 minutes . That will be the first meeting I organize here. Are there any guidelines I should follow ? Thanks in advance :-) | 15:33 |
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| dhellmann | dachary, I know there's a bot but I don't know how to trigger it | 15:40 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting | 15:41 |
| chmouel | dhellmann: I think #startmeeting | 15:41 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 26 15:41:21 2012 UTC. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:41 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 15:41 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 15:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 26 15:41:25 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-15.41.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-15.41.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-15.41.log.html | 15:41 |
| notmyname | like that | 15:41 |
| dhellmann | cool, thanks notmyname | 15:41 |
| notmyname | just don't forget to endmeeting. only the person who starts it can end it, and no other meetings can start until the current one ends | 15:42 |
| * dhellmann nods | 15:44 | |
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| dachary | great, notmyname thanks ;-) | 15:50 |
| dachary | openstack: help | 15:51 |
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| dachary | chmouel: thanks and bonjour ;-) | 15:58 |
| dachary | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 26 16:00:13 2012 UTC. The chair is dachary. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 16:00 |
| dachary | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda | 16:00 |
| dachary | nijaba: will join later, he is held up by a last minute interview | 16:01 |
| dachary | #topic Agree on the project objectives | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agree on the project objectives" | 16:01 | |
| dachary | nijaba: proposed "The project aims to deliver a unique point of contact for billing systems to aquire all counters they need to establish customer billing, accross all current and future OpenStack components. The delivery of counters must be tracable and auditable, the counters must be easily extensible to support new projects, and agents doing data collections should be independent of the overall system" | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | That seems like a good start. | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure how the term "counter" is being used, though. | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | For example, I may want to list on the bill all of the floating IPs a tenant is using, and how long they have had each of them (total and since the last billing cycle). | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | So just knowing the number of floating IPs isn't enough. | 16:03 |
| dhellmann | Is that part of what you mean for how counters will work? | 16:03 |
| dachary | I see a counter as "something that is billable" indeed | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | maybe the floating IP counter measures hours/minutes per IP just as we do for compute for instance? | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | I'm just trying to make sure I understand the framing | 16:05 |
| dachary | for IPs they tend to have a fixed cost but the cost may vary | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | well, it's fixed over a period of time, right? so if I allocate one and then deallocate it later, I am only billed for the time I'm actually using it | 16:05 |
| dachary | yes | 16:05 |
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| dhellmann | granted a tenant will tend to hold on to an IP for a long period of time | 16:05 |
| dachary | If you lease an IP at OVH it's not the same as if you least it from Hetzner for instance | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | sorry, are those providers? | 16:06 |
| dachary | yes | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | got it | 16:06 |
| dhellmann | so maybe my objection is just to the definition of that particular counter, and not to the idea of counters in general | 16:07 |
| dachary | I should say : "someone from whom you lease a number of IP" | 16:07 |
| dhellmann | that feels like a detail we can work out later | 16:07 |
| dachary | right | 16:07 |
| dachary | the level of detail is tricky | 16:07 |
| dachary | for instance regarding IPs | 16:07 |
| dachary | IPv6 transit is free sometimes | 16:08 |
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| dachary | therefore, although it's transit external to the OpenStack cluster, you may want to *not* bill it | 16:08 |
| dachary | and the dinstinction between "extrenal" traffic and "internal" traffic may not be enough | 16:08 |
| dhellmann | that's an issue for the billing calculation, not the metering, though, right? I may still want to show the customer how much IPv6 traffic they had at $0 so they know how much value they are getting :-) | 16:09 |
| dachary | in which case you may want to add more counters but that may prove unpractical | 16:09 |
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| dachary | the metering should provide dinstinctive counters at least. In the proposed table the external network traffic does not distinguish IPv6 and IPv4 | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | I agree, we need to allow for separate counters for those | 16:10 |
| dhellmann | I assume we will also need to have the counter be per object (per instance, per network, per VIF, etc.) and not global | 16:11 |
| dachary | The database schema meeting will be very much about the granularity of these "counters" or whatever agregated value is deemed useful to keep and expose. | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | cool, I can wait for that :-) | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | I don't see anything in the objective statement that I disagree with, then | 16:11 |
| dachary | ok. | 16:11 |
| dhellmann | the short version is: We are collecting data for another system to use to calculate the bill for a tenant | 16:12 |
| dhellmann | we aren't going to try to do the actually billing | 16:12 |
| dachary | That's also my understanding. | 16:12 |
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| dhellmann | good, we are on the same page, then | 16:12 |
| dachary | I've read carefully | 16:12 |
| dachary | #link https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg10334.html | 16:12 |
| dachary | and the part about the existing system in nova | 16:13 |
| dachary | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/SystemUsageData | 16:13 |
| dachary | kept me thinking for a while. | 16:13 |
| dhellmann | I have not had a chance to review that, yet | 16:13 |
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| dachary | It actually makes the metering implemetation easier because Dragon is apparently willing to store and account for a lot of counters. | 16:14 |
| dachary | So, instead of harvesting data on its own, the metering agent could query nova on the node itself. And getting the data (I/O for the root device for instance) could be done within the context of nova instead of outside nova. | 16:15 |
| dachary | Dragon made it clear that he wishes other OpenStack components also implement a similar metering logic. But it's not his focus and I don't think there is anything yet in swift. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | that seems like a good approach | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | how much of that is already implemented? | 16:16 |
| dachary | And I did not research what Quantum plans. | 16:16 |
| dachary | that => http://wiki.openstack.org/SystemUsageData ? | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | yes, sorry | 16:16 |
| dachary | all of it. | 16:16 |
| dhellmann | oh, wow | 16:17 |
| dachary | It's a good source of data. | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | oh, these are events not table definitions | 16:17 |
| dachary | Yes. | 16:17 |
| dhellmann | yeah, so we still need to monitor the events and log them | 16:17 |
| * dhellmann is reading as we go | 16:17 | |
| chmouel | dachary: I think the swiftstack were talking about an integrated version for metering swift (merging syn's https://github.com/pandemicsyn/swift-informant) | 16:18 |
| dachary | #link https://github.com/pandemicsyn/swift-informant | 16:19 |
| dhellmann | yes, this matches what I had been expecting to need to build: something that watches for events and logs them, possibly after post-processing to get data not in the event but needed for billing (like the definition of an instance type) and then a query API on top of it for the tool that extracts the data and aggregates it | 16:19 |
| dachary | chmouel: ok :-) | 16:20 |
| dachary | Agents running on OpenStack nodes harvest data. The data from the existing agents is collected using a message queue. The data collected is made available thru APIs. | 16:20 |
| dachary | ^ this is my onliner to describe the metering architecture. | 16:20 |
| uvirtbot | dachary: Error: "this" is not a valid command. | 16:20 |
| dachary | ? | 16:20 |
| dachary | hahaha I woke up a bot without knowing ;-) | 16:21 |
| dhellmann | :-) | 16:21 |
| dachary | anyone has a say about the project objectives before we move to the next topic ? | 16:21 |
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| dhellmann | +1 to adopt those objectives | 16:22 |
| dachary | +1 | 16:22 |
| dachary | #topic Agree on a project name | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agree on a project name" | 16:22 | |
| dachary | Metering and FillBill are proposed | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | Ceilometer | 16:23 |
| dhellmann | (an instrument for measuring cloud cover) | 16:23 |
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| * nijaba_tab waves. sorry for being late | 16:23 | |
| dachary | nijaba_tab: we just agreed on project objectives | 16:24 |
| dachary | and chosing a name | 16:24 |
| dachary | Ceilometer | 16:24 |
| dachary | was proposed by dhellmann | 16:24 |
| dachary | I actually like Ceilometer | 16:24 |
| nijaba_tab | great, thanks | 16:24 |
| dhellmann | some other ideas on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorological_instrumentation | 16:25 |
| dachary | nipper has been proposed on the list but I still prefer Ceilometer | 16:25 |
| nijaba_tab | Ceilometer sounds cool | 16:25 |
| jayahn | +1 for ceilometer | 16:25 |
| dhellmann | Radiosondes may be easier to say out loud | 16:25 |
| dachary | +1 for ceilometer | 16:26 |
| * littleidea wants something without 'meter' in the name | 16:26 | |
| dhellmann | "A radiosonde (Sonde is French for probe) is a unit for use in weather balloons that measures various atmospheric parameters and transmits them to a fixed receiver." | 16:26 |
| Aswad_ | +1 for ceilometer | 16:26 |
| dachary | littleidea: when I apt-cache search meter I'd like it to show ;-) | 16:26 |
| littleidea | dachary: easily solved | 16:27 |
| nijaba_tab | I had put fillbill on the wiki.... ;) | 16:27 |
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| dachary | unless there is another proposal shall we vote ? | 16:28 |
| littleidea | does the name need to be decided in this meeting? | 16:28 |
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| nijaba_tab | littleidea: yes, this is blocking us to create the project on lp, have a ml, etc... | 16:29 |
| dachary | littleidea: that's the idea, yes. And then it will be used to create projects, domains, lists etc. | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | I think the idea is to decide and get to work on implementation, because we need a name before the infrastructure can be set up | 16:29 |
| dachary | Votes for "Metering" : (say +0 or +1) | 16:29 |
| dachary | +0 | 16:29 |
| dhellmann | +0 | 16:30 |
| littleidea | +0 | 16:30 |
| jayahn | +0 | 16:30 |
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| Aswad_ | +0 | 16:30 |
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| dachary | Votes for "FillBill" : (say +0 or +1) | 16:30 |
| dhellmann | +0 | 16:30 |
| dachary | +0 | 16:30 |
| jayahn | +0 | 16:30 |
| Aswad_ | +0 | 16:30 |
| nijaba_tab | +1 just because I proposed it | 16:30 |
| Aswad_ | :) | 16:30 |
| dachary | Votes for "Nipper" : (say +0 or +1) | 16:31 |
| dachary | +0 | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | +0 | 16:31 |
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| nijaba_tab | +0 | 16:31 |
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| Aswad_ | +0 | 16:31 |
| jayahn | +0 | 16:31 |
| dachary | Votes for "Ceilometer" : (say +0 or +1) | 16:31 |
| dachary | +1 | 16:31 |
| dhellmann | +1 | 16:32 |
| Aswad_ | +1 | 16:32 |
| jayahn | +1 | 16:32 |
| zul | +1 | 16:32 |
| nijaba_tab | +1 | 16:32 |
| dhellmann | please also record a +1 for me for "radiosonde" when that comes up, I have to leave. | 16:32 |
| dachary | k | 16:32 |
| dachary | Votes for "radiosondes" : (say +0 or +1) | 16:32 |
| dachary | +0 | 16:32 |
| dachary | dhellmann says : +1 | 16:33 |
| Aswad_ | +0 | 16:33 |
| littleidea | +1 | 16:33 |
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| nijaba_tab | +0 | 16:33 |
| littleidea | and remember kids, apt-cache search matches descriptions | 16:33 |
| nijaba_tab | true | 16:34 |
| flacoste | +0 | 16:34 |
| dachary | littleidea: yes but *many* descriptions match meter ;-) | 16:34 |
| jayahn | +1 | 16:34 |
| littleidea | dachary: your point is searching for meter is useless anyway? | 16:34 |
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| dachary | That's all I have. We have a winner I think : "ceilometer". | 16:35 |
| mnewby | apologies, what is being named? | 16:35 |
| dachary | mnewby: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda | 16:35 |
| littleidea | a project to meter openstack services | 16:35 |
| mnewby | danke :) | 16:35 |
| Aswad_ | danke! | 16:36 |
| dachary | Unless someone objects, I'll move on to the next topic. | 16:36 |
| dachary | #topic Agree on a project decision roadmap | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agree on a project decision roadmap" | 16:37 | |
| nijaba_tab | yay for ceilometer | 16:37 |
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| nijaba_tab | so loic and I made a proposal for this on the agenda | 16:37 |
| nijaba_tab | loic=dachary | 16:38 |
| nijaba_tab | I think these decision are a bit fundamental for the project, so I think having a week to consider each one is not too much | 16:38 |
| nijaba_tab | what do you think? | 16:39 |
| * nijaba_tab blames 3G for the lag | 16:39 | |
| flacoste | where will discussion around these happens? | 16:39 |
| flacoste | on a mailing list, or on IRC during themeeting? | 16:39 |
| flacoste | would probably be good to discuss on a list before the meeting, no? | 16:40 |
| nijaba_tab | on the ml, during the week before the meeting, then validation on irc meeting? | 16:40 |
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| dachary | It would make sense to discuss before the meeting, I think. | 16:40 |
| dachary | flacoste: so that the meeting is not about thinking of solutions but validating the solutions already proposed. Come to an understanding based on the work done during the week. | 16:41 |
| flacoste | agreed | 16:41 |
| flacoste | where would that happen? the general openstack list? or a openstack-metering list? | 16:41 |
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| nijaba_tab | openstack-ceilometer list | 16:42 |
| dachary | I'd be tempted to start on the general mailing list because a *lot* of people have shown interest in the topic. | 16:42 |
| nijaba_tab | let's cross post at the beginning? | 16:42 |
| dachary | ok | 16:42 |
| dachary | so that it can move to the specialized list of it's too much spam. | 16:43 |
| nijaba_tab | +1 for me | 16:43 |
| dachary | However, these discussions are time boxed. 5 topics. 5 weeks. | 16:43 |
| nijaba_tab | yes! | 16:43 |
| dachary | After that all is decided. It's a fairly simple project. Which is what I like about it ;-) | 16:43 |
| nijaba_tab | the first one, for the next meeting, is which db to use | 16:43 |
| jayahn | (sorry if i miss this kind of discussion on the beginnig. but..) in the decision roadmap, i would like to see a kind of requirment gathering about what to count, especially for network traffic metering. | 16:44 |
| nijaba_tab | simple, until you hit production | 16:44 |
| littleidea | I think it should be on the main list | 16:44 |
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| jayahn | i agree that it should be on the main list. | 16:44 |
| dachary | jayahn: agree and I think that's part of the "schema choice". | 16:45 |
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| jayahn | i see. | 16:45 |
| dachary | s/agree/agreed/ | 16:45 |
| dachary | it's the most difficult part in my opinion | 16:45 |
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| dachary | decided what to account for, what to aggregate or not. | 16:45 |
| littleidea | does it have to be tied to a db? | 16:46 |
| nijaba_tab | jayahn, there is a proposal on the blueprint. Feel free to add to it | 16:46 |
| nijaba_tab | on of the main idea is that we do not lock on counters, but on data model | 16:46 |
| nijaba_tab | so that anyone can add an agent to gather another counter that was not part of the original plan | 16:46 |
| nijaba_tab | and each counter gathering is optional | 16:46 |
| nijaba_tab | the schema should be flexible enough not to prevent adding counters | 16:47 |
| dachary | nijaba_tab: while this is an open ended definition, metering will define counters by default (the one in the table for instance). I think the core of the discussion will be about these counters. | 16:47 |
| nijaba_tab | ok, let's get back on topic. We have 3 proposal for discussion to take place | 16:48 |
| dachary | The default list of counters should be useful to most people and make sense to most usages. It's key to have a consensus on using the metering API. | 16:48 |
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| dachary | I propose that we modify "Schema choice" for "Schema choice and counter definitions" | 16:49 |
| nijaba_tab | 1/On the main mailing list | 16:49 |
| nijaba_tab | 2/ on the ceilometer one | 16:49 |
| nijaba_tab | 3/on both using cross posting | 16:49 |
| nijaba_tab | Who votes for 1? | 16:49 |
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| flacoste | +1 | 16:49 |
| littleidea | 1 | 16:49 |
| jayahn | 1 | 16:49 |
| dachary | 3 | 16:50 |
| Aswad_ | 1 | 16:50 |
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| dachary | I'll handle the votes because nijaba_tab lags ;-) | 16:50 |
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| * nijaba_tab does lagg badly | 16:51 | |
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| nijaba_tab | thanks dachary | 16:51 |
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| flacoste | dachary: i like your proposal (adding counter definitions to the schema topic) | 16:51 |
| flacoste | dachary: but i think we should do that one before commiting to a database | 16:51 |
| dachary | #agreed discussions are On the main mailing list | 16:51 |
| * nijaba_tab votes for 3 | 16:51 | |
| jayahn | i also like adding counter definitions to the schema. | 16:51 |
| flacoste | as the schema and counters we need is more likely to inform the db choice | 16:52 |
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| flacoste | then limiting our schema based on the db | 16:52 |
| flacoste | s/then/rather than/ | 16:52 |
| dachary | flacoste: yes | 16:52 |
| nijaba_tab | So the proposal is to a/ change the order between 1 and 2, b) to add counters to shcema. works for me | 16:52 |
| dachary | #agreed meeting 2 is : Schema choice and counter definitions | 16:53 |
| dachary | meeting 3 message queue choice | 16:53 |
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| flacoste | or meeting 3 database choice? | 16:54 |
| dachary | it's about chosing AMQP over RabbitMQ over ... etc | 16:54 |
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| dachary | flacoste: I'm confused ? Meeting 1 is database choice or did I miss something ? | 16:55 |
| littleidea | dachary: RabbitMQ is an implementation of AMQP | 16:55 |
| nijaba_tab | dachary: we should invert 1 and 2 | 16:55 |
| dachary | ok | 16:55 |
| flacoste | ah, i was counting from this current meeting, but i guess we are using 0, traditional off by one error :-) | 16:56 |
| dachary | :-D | 16:56 |
| dachary | I agree that database choice should come after | 16:56 |
| dachary | littleidea: right ... :-D | 16:56 |
| nijaba_tab | so that we know th schema before choosing the db | 16:57 |
| nijaba_tab | c vs pascal... | 16:57 |
| jayahn | does openstack already have | 16:57 |
| jayahn | .. oops.. mistyping. | 16:57 |
| littleidea | Why do we need to choose a DB? | 16:57 |
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| dachary | littleidea: we need to chose a storage system, definitely | 16:58 |
| nijaba_tab | littleidea: because of the massive amount of data we are going to collect | 16:58 |
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| littleidea | seems like what we should define is a service interface and mechanisms for gathering the information | 16:58 |
| flacoste | littleidea: maybe the storage should be pluggable, but let's save that for the DB discussion :-) | 16:58 |
| dachary | Current state: 1 schema and counter definitions, 2 storage system, 3 message queue choice, 4 API message format, 5, external API definition | 16:58 |
| littleidea | nijaba_tab: then clearly the db should be cassandra | 16:58 |
| dachary | flacoste: ok | 16:58 |
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| dachary | littleidea: I think that's exactly what the second meeting should be about, indeed ;-) | 16:59 |
| nijaba_tab | yes, but we could be limited by the type of db, so the reference implementation choice does matter | 16:59 |
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| flacoste | dachary: does it make sense to discuss 4 and 5 after 1? because again, the message queue and storage might restrict these? | 16:59 |
| dachary | Current state: 1 schema and counter definitions, 2 chose a plugable storage system, 3 message queue choice, 4 API message format, 5, external API definition | 16:59 |
| * dachary thinking | 17:00 | |
| jaypipes | dachary, LinuxJed, nijaba_tab: heya, the QA meeting starts now... in this channel :) | 17:00 |
| flacoste | we overran | 17:00 |
| littleidea | to the extent schema is about defining the data we want to collect, that seems right, if schema is about creating tables in a relational model, I think we're going about this the wrong way | 17:00 |
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| jaypipes | flacoste: no big deal :) | 17:00 |
| LinuxJedi | jaypipes: ?? | 17:00 |
| vladimir3p | jaypipes: I thought that we have a volume meeting at 10am PST | 17:00 |
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| dachary | jaypipes: we'll cut short sorry about that | 17:00 |
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| dachary | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 26 17:01:07 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| nijaba_tab | flacoste: good point on the order again | 17:01 |
| * nijaba_tab wonders if there is another meeting taking place in here now | 17:01 | |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-16.00.log.html | 17:01 |
| jayahn | i agree with littleidea. | 17:01 |
| flacoste | dachary: should we finish in #openstack-metering? or postpone to the next meeting | 17:01 |
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| jaypipes | vladimir3p: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 17:01 |
| jaypipes | vladimir3p: now is 1700 UTC, yes? | 17:01 |
| nijaba_tab | let's move to -metering | 17:01 |
| dachary | yep | 17:01 |
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| Aswad_ | ok | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | vladimir3p: looks like Volumes is in 58 minutes. :) | 17:02 |
| vladimir3p | jaypipes: ok, sorry | 17:02 |
| vladimir3p | ok | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | vladimir3p: no worries! | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | alright.. let's get this show on the road. | 17:02 |
| jaypipes | #startmeeting | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 26 17:02:55 2012 UTC. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 17:02 |
| davidkranz | Yo | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck, davidkranz, fattarsi: afternoon! | 17:03 |
| Ravikumar_hp | hi | 17:03 |
| dwalleck | hello! | 17:03 |
| fattarsi | good morning :) | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: helolo! | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: or Hello even :) | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: is Jose around? | 17:03 |
| dwalleck | helolololololo :) | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: I know Nayna was interested in the status of the Swift tests... | 17:04 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: I haven't seen him today. He might be out | 17:04 |
| Ravikumar_hp | Jaypipes: Yes . | 17:04 |
| dwalleck | As am I....I will ping his group | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: ok, if you could give yourself a quick action item to email Jose and Nayna about that? | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: cheers | 17:04 |
| Ravikumar_hp | Jaypipes: we have only Nova tests , and keystone being added | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: and Images API tests... | 17:04 |
| dwalleck | I know they were doing some major refactoring to be able to push a bunch of stuff at once, but just getting some basics in would be nice :) | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: indeed :) | 17:05 |
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| dwalleck | And Quantum (when I fix Jay's nits) | 17:05 |
| fattarsi | dwalleck: thanks for the feedback on that review, I will do those changes today or tomorrow | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | #link https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/dev-gate-tempest-devstack-vm/337/testReport/? | 17:05 |
| dwalleck | fattarsi: awesome, sounds good | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | Please see the above Jenkins report output. and thx to jeblair for putting the report together. | 17:05 |
| dwalleck | Wooo! | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | We have the Tempest devstack gate job running smoothly now. w00t. | 17:06 |
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| jaypipes | But the two failures shown in the report are indeed consistent. I am working on fixing the volume one today. | 17:06 |
| jaypipes | There is a bug logged about it already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/983856 | 17:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 983856 in tempest "volumes are not deleted in teardown" [High,In progress] | 17:07 |
| jaypipes | Looks like Sarad Patel has a code review up for it... | 17:07 |
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| * jaypipes will be focusing on outstanding tempest reviews today. | 17:08 | |
| jaypipes | and also cleaning up our bug list, which is in some need of TLC | 17:08 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: I'd like to also add a Jenkins job that fires the stress tests | 17:08 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: perhaps you and I could work on that late today or tomorrow? | 17:08 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK. I am also working on more stress cases for floating ip, volume, etc. | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: nice | 17:09 |
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| jaypipes | dwalleck: so do you think you will have the base compute merge proposal done roday? | 17:09 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Is there some specific action you were thinking of to do with jenkins? | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I'd like to fire a job similar to the devstack tempest gate, but run the stress tests instead of the tempest API tests | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: basic stress tests that are in tempest right now.... create/delete, reboot/resize, etc | 17:10 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: I thought it was done....let me go back and look | 17:10 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: Makes sense, but I am not sure where that code lives. Were you thinking I should check something in? | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: yes, it is, but we need more reviews... | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp, davidkranz: think you can review this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5258/ | 17:11 |
| Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: ok | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: no, I can do the jenkins stuff... just might want to chat with you a few minutes about how to fire off the stress tests and make sure everything gets cleaned up | 17:12 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: gotcha. I'm trying to poke some of my Nova devs to chime in as well. westmaas and dprince are folks who probably have interest in what we're doing | 17:12 |
| davidkranz | Ravikumar_hp: Are you going to pull the change and run it? | 17:12 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: ++ | 17:12 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK, I will be here. | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I have already run that merge proposal locally and all is passing (except the known volume one) | 17:13 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Greast. | 17:13 |
| Ravikumar_hp | <davidkranz: yes. | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | all: I would *like* to get to the point by end of day that the devstack-tempest-gate-vm job is actually GATING the tempest trunk. | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | doesn't have to gate the other core projects yet, but I'd like it to gate tempest. | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | meaning that we wouldn't have to run everyone's branches locally first... since that would be gating anything going into trunk | 17:14 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: That would be great and would take some effort off of some reviews. | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: right. | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: Which means getting those two remaining failures addressed... | 17:15 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: which I can certainly get done today. | 17:15 |
| davidkranz | Cool! | 17:15 |
| jaypipes | alrighty... does anyone have anything specific to bring up? fattarsi, how's things going with your outstadning merge proposals? | 17:16 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Where is the jenkins code you are going to change? I would at least like to take a look at how that stuff works going forward. | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | fattarsi: last I checked we were pretty close with yours.. | 17:16 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: there's two parts. the first is the tools/configure_tempest.sh in the devstack project. the second is the devstack-gate project that is part of openstack-ci. | 17:17 |
| fattarsi | yes, I will incorporate the feedback and resubmit | 17:17 |
| jaypipes | fattarsi: awesome. love to get that in this week. | 17:17 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: OK, thanks. | 17:17 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate | 17:17 |
| fattarsi | jaypipes: me too, I'd like to submit the keystone tests I have early next week | 17:18 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: and specifically: https://github.com/openstack-ci/devstack-gate/blob/4acf48ba874a5dee6d6548a2e2cc62ec868d6216/devstack-vm-gate-host.sh | 17:18 |
| jaypipes | fattarsi: rock on. | 17:18 |
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| davidkranz | jaypipes: Were you thinking of running stress tests against devstack? | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: yes. | 17:19 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: you think that is a mistake? | 17:19 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Then we need to configure devstack so the stress tests can access the log files. | 17:19 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Not a mistake, but needs a little more work. | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: OK, that's exactly the kind of feedback I needed from ya :) | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: I'll ping you when ready to get going on that (want to get the tempest gate in place first) | 17:20 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: k | 17:20 |
| jaypipes | Also, all, please be sure to go through the list of abandoned merge proposals: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:abandoned+project:openstack/tempest,n,z | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | especially after last week when so many in SFO | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | just skim and make sure nothing important is abandoned... | 17:21 |
| dwalleck | will do | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | I believe I contacted everyone with an abandoned branch needing restored, but just doubel-check | 17:21 |
| jaypipes | #topic Open Discussion | 17:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion" | 17:22 | |
| jaypipes | Feel free to discuss what's on your mind :) | 17:22 |
| dwalleck | sleep :) | 17:22 |
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| jaypipes | lol :) | 17:22 |
| jaypipes | An AWESOME article from Sagar Nikam on running tempest inside devstack on TryStack: http://sagar-tech-gyan.blogspot.in/2012/04/testing-open-stack-with-devstack.html | 17:23 |
| jaypipes | it's a yo dawg within a yo dawg. | 17:23 |
| dwalleck | No, just hoping to get some of my branches in so that I can push more of the Linux server validation/SSH code soon. We also have a good working Windows solution now as well, for those few folks who need it | 17:23 |
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| dwalleck | Hehe, I always blow people's minds when I show them Devstack running on a Cloud Server | 17:23 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: :) then let's get those outstanding merges in, eh? :) | 17:24 |
| dwalleck | working on it! :) | 17:24 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: alright, before we break here, I know that a number of people were interested in having both a published agenda and a summary of the meeting/decisions put on the main mailing list. | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: I was hoping that between us all, we can split up that work and get into a regular cadence of communications | 17:25 |
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| dwalleck | jaypipes: ++ sounds like a good idea | 17:25 |
| davidkranz | Great idea. | 17:25 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck, davidkranz, Ravikumar_hp: would you all be willing to do some sort of weekly rotation for that? | 17:26 |
| dwalleck | What would work best for this? Wiki page? Etherpad? | 17:26 |
| dwalleck | absolutely | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | dwalleck: we can put the rotation on a wiki page like nove-core does for reviews... | 17:26 |
| Ravikumar_hp | sure | 17:26 |
| davidkranz | Sure | 17:26 |
| jaypipes | http://wiki.openstack.org/Nova/ReviewDays | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | something like that ^^ | 17:27 |
| dwalleck | That works | 17:27 |
| jaypipes | but we'd be responsible for posting the agenda ahead of time and posting a summary the meeting and, say, outstadning pending reviews? | 17:27 |
| davidkranz | jaypipes: Did you mean the main "openstack" list or the qa list? | 17:28 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: main list | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | davidkranz: though you could do both! :) | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | I'll do the first summary right now and put togther the schedule page... | 17:29 |
| jaypipes | I think it will be good to communicate more and better with the community about stuff we've been able to get done and things we need assistance with, etc | 17:30 |
| dwalleck | jaypipes: ++ | 17:30 |
| davidkranz | Thanks Jay. I can do one of the next two weeks but will be on vacation May14 through Memorial day. | 17:30 |
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| jaypipes | davidkranz: good to know. I'll note that | 17:30 |
| jaypipes | alright guys! well, gonna end this if noone has anything else? | 17:31 |
| davidkranz | Adios. | 17:31 |
| Ravikumar_hp | bye | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | ciao | 17:31 |
| dwalleck | thanks! | 17:31 |
| jaypipes | #endmeeting | 17:31 |
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| fattarsi | see ya | 17:31 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 26 17:31:38 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-17.02.html | 17:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-17.02.txt | 17:31 |
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| jgriffith | #startmeeting | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 26 18:02:16 2012 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:02 |
| jgriffith | Who do we have for volume/cinder folks? | 18:02 |
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| vladimir3p | here | 18:02 |
| vladimir3p | hi | 18:02 |
| rnirmal | hey | 18:03 |
| jdurgin | howdy | 18:03 |
| jgriffith | excellent... | 18:03 |
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| jgriffith | esker: you here? | 18:03 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: great job getting all the project setup kicked off | 18:03 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: thanks to you!! I just followed your lead :) | 18:04 |
| jgriffith | Ok... renuka is on vacation today so won't be here | 18:04 |
| jgriffith | We should probably get started | 18:04 |
| jgriffith | #topic cinder update | 18:04 |
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| jgriffith | So, as nirmal pointed out we now have an official project in the openstack ecosystem :) | 18:05 |
| rnirmal | https://launchpad.net/cinder | 18:05 |
| vladimir3p | congrats! | 18:05 |
| jgriffith | I've added everybody that "volunteered" at the summit to the core team | 18:05 |
| rnirmal | and https://github.com/openstack/cinder | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Thanks, I forget not everybody has seen all of those yet probably | 18:06 |
| rnirmal | https://launchpad.net/~cinder-core | 18:06 |
| rnirmal | yeah that's why I'm pasting those links here | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:06 |
| rnirmal | so anybody looking at the mins will have it | 18:06 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Excellent, THANKS!! | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | So I believe as far as drivers team I'll have to figure out what we need to do there, elections etc | 18:07 |
| jgriffith | Or something else, just don't know. | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | But.... | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | In the meantime, we have a repo | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | I don't know if anybody has had a chance to look at the break out I started: | 18:08 |
| rnirmal | how abt cinder-bugs. should that be a moderated list? | 18:08 |
| jgriffith | https://github.com/j-griffith/cinder | 18:08 |
| rnirmal | sorry just wanted to complete that disucssion https://launchpad.net/~cinder-bugs | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: NP.. | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | I believe that's typically moderated because of ranking/acceptance etc | 18:09 |
| jgriffith | I'll double check on those sorts of details and get things set up correctly | 18:09 |
| rnirmal | ah ok just making sure. | 18:09 |
| vladimir3p | rnirmal: is there any reason to make it moderated | 18:09 |
| vladimir3p | I'm fine with it either way | 18:10 |
| rnirmal | not really for the bugs.. not sure if that's used for triaging etc.. but anyone should be able to do that | 18:10 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal vladimir3p: Give me a chance to figure out how it's "supposed" to be done and we can go from there | 18:10 |
| vladimir3p | good, seems like you have your 1st action item | 18:10 |
| jgriffith | #action jgriffith figure out memeberships for various project pages | 18:10 |
| jgriffith | So the next steps are getting some code going in the repo | 18:11 |
| vladimir3p | I would suggest 1st to understand what modules we would like to put there | 18:12 |
| vladimir3p | and how to re-use common parts | 18:12 |
| vladimir3p | things like wsgi, etc. | 18:12 |
| vladimir3p | unfortunately, there is no really nova-common today, correct? | 18:12 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: yes... that's covered | 18:12 |
| rnirmal | vladimir3p: there is a nova-common | 18:12 |
| rnirmal | and some of the wsgi stuff is already in there | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: we're actually using openstack-common | 18:13 |
| vladimir3p | link? | 18:13 |
| rnirmal | sorry openstack-common | 18:13 |
| rnirmal | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-common | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | It's in the repo already, that's what's cool about jeblairs project setup | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | We actually have a framework | 18:13 |
| jgriffith | The code in my personal repo https://github.com/j-griffith/cinder followed the same process | 18:14 |
| vladimir3p | very good | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | I added more components to my config but don't know if they're all needed or not | 18:14 |
| rnirmal | soren: jgriffith how are we going to move that code in the official repo | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | So things like wsgi, some of the test infrastructure, utils etc we have | 18:14 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: So I'm planning to do a commit and submit for review... at least the framework | 18:15 |
| rnirmal | great and we can slowly start moving in the pieces | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | I've put together some "stripped down" versions of things together to get a foundation that can work and run tests | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: exactly | 18:15 |
| jgriffith | The only thing is I would like to get folks to at least take a brief look at what I have in my github before pushing to the official repo | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | I'd like to avoid having to make MAJOR changes to the layout or anything after we've got it in Gerrit and such | 18:16 |
| jgriffith | I probably need to take another turn on it this week but my goal is to have it up in the official repo this week-end | 18:17 |
| jgriffith | Unless folks are anxious to start writing some code before then :) | 18:17 |
| vladimir3p | ok, a quick question - seems like I'm missing scheduler part | 18:17 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: in terms of what I have in my repo? Yes, correct it's by NO means complete | 18:18 |
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| jgriffith | The idea was to get a minimal DB, Test infrastructure etc | 18:18 |
| vladimir3p | yep, justa placeholder will be great | 18:18 |
| vladimir3p | let's put there something like a simple or random scheduler | 18:18 |
| jgriffith | What I'd really like is some feedback on what I did with the drivers directory versus plugins etc | 18:19 |
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| rnirmal | yeah lets start with basic stubs.. easier to get things rolling | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: random scheduler is fine with me. Or even just an empty file | 18:19 |
| jgriffith | #action add scheduler stub before pushing to official repo | 18:19 |
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| jgriffith | #idea I'll give folks a couple days to take a look at what's there, feel free to email suggestions, submit somehting of your own etc | 18:20 |
| vladimir3p | agree | 18:20 |
| vladimir3p | so, let's see what do we have and what we are missing ... | 18:20 |
| jgriffith | Then I'll try to get our first submission pushed in this week-end | 18:20 |
| jgriffith | Missing lots of stuff :) | 18:21 |
| rnirmal | sounds good.. yeah don't worry about the missing stuff | 18:21 |
| vladimir3p | I was thinking about cinder API (rest) level, volume APIs, DB, scheduler manager with drivers | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | Some things I'd like to consider before talking about missing stuff | 18:21 |
| rnirmal | as long as it has a basic api + service running | 18:21 |
| vladimir3p | these seems to be main parts | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: +1 | 18:21 |
| rnirmal | and the framework for running the tests | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: +++++++++++1 | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | :) | 18:21 |
| vladimir3p | :-) | 18:21 |
| jgriffith | Ok, so something else we need to talk about is flushing out the endpoint definitions | 18:22 |
| jgriffith | Or the api interface, however you want to look at it | 18:22 |
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| rnirmal | I think it would be great to get a blueprint out for the api | 18:22 |
| rnirmal | and start by adding the existing definitions and refine on those | 18:22 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: Agree, also might be helpful to leverage the work Vish did on the python-cinder-client | 18:23 |
| jgriffith | #link https://github.com/vishvananda/python-cinderclient.git | 18:23 |
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| jgriffith | We should keep in mind that our first goal is to offer a functional equivalent to the existing nova-volume api | 18:23 |
| vladimir3p | jgriffith: what is the plan about plug-ins. How do you plan to use them? | 18:24 |
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| jgriffith | vladimir3p: The idea is this to behave sort of like what we do with extensions | 18:25 |
| vladimir3p | so, those will be API extensions? | 18:25 |
| jgriffith | I'm modeling more what quantum is doing here. | 18:25 |
| jgriffith | Yes, with potential for other things in the future as well | 18:25 |
| vladimir3p | sorry, not familiar with qunatum stuff | 18:25 |
| rnirmal | this should be similar to the nova extensions too | 18:26 |
| vladimir3p | because if we are talking about just API extensions (a-la nova), it would be great to reuse their code | 18:26 |
| vladimir3p | (put it in common) | 18:26 |
| rnirmal | there was a session on the extensions.. not sure what happened. there | 18:26 |
| jgriffith | API extensions wouldn't be common though... | 18:27 |
| rnirmal | I think common already has it | 18:27 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Yeah, I didn't make that session but I can track down folks and get mor einfo | 18:27 |
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| rnirmal | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-common/blob/master/openstack/common/extensions.py ... we'll have to figure out what else is needed here. | 18:28 |
| vladimir3p | ok, so the main comment on your branch - great stuff!!! If we could use openstack-common modules instead of what is there in common it will be even better | 18:28 |
| rnirmal | I'll be able to help setup the extensions part.. we just did that for reddwarf | 18:28 |
| rnirmal | using openstack-common | 18:28 |
| vladimir3p | great! | 18:28 |
| rnirmal | vladimir3p: part of it will also be actually getting stuff into common | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: excellent | 18:29 |
| vladimir3p | how about volume types? | 18:29 |
| vladimir3p | if we are talking about volume separation - cut is pretty clear. | 18:29 |
| jgriffith | #action rnirmal look at setting up extension framework in new codebase | 18:29 |
| vladimir3p | nova knows only about volume uuid | 18:29 |
| vladimir3p | but with volume types it is different ... | 18:29 |
| rnirmal | wouldn't just cinder need to know about volume types? | 18:30 |
| vladimir3p | for sure management of all volume types (+extra specs for types) should be within cinder | 18:30 |
| vladimir3p | nova should also somehow be aware of them ... | 18:30 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: Yes there's going to be work in both nova and cinder to get all of this coordinated | 18:30 |
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| jgriffith | It seems to me that maybe getting things somewhat structured in cinder then patching nova is the way to go about it | 18:31 |
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| vladimir3p | agree | 18:31 |
| jgriffith | Anybody have any concerns/disagreements? | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | Well, I'm sure we all have a few concerns :) | 18:32 |
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| vladimir3p | no concerns, only working items :-) | 18:32 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: So that brings me to the next point.... | 18:33 |
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| jgriffith | Sounds like rnirmal is interested in looking at the extensions piece since he's already done a good bit of work there | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | Anybody have interests in starting to dig in on any other specific pieces? | 18:33 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: if the api is not done... I'll pickup all the api pieces | 18:33 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Excellet! | 18:33 |
| rnirmal | moving over the existing stuff etc | 18:34 |
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| jgriffith | #action rnirmal start working on api pieces | 18:34 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: Perfect, yeah hopefully there can be alot of copy and paste at this stage | 18:34 |
| vladimir3p | I can take scheduler, but nothing will be done in the next week or so.. | 18:34 |
| vladimir3p | it would be great if we could start with better separation between common and cinder part | 18:35 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: Should be fine, we'll probably need a mox or something basic to test as we go but that should work | 18:35 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: What do you mean exactly? | 18:35 |
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| rnirmal | there's still a lot of the pieces that are not in common | 18:35 |
| rnirmal | rpc for example | 18:36 |
| vladimir3p | to have clear dependency of openstack-common and remove all the code that is "common" from cinder | 18:36 |
| vladimir3p | btw, why rpc will be different? | 18:36 |
| rnirmal | it won't be.. just that it's not in openstack-common yet | 18:36 |
| rnirmal | so we'll have to do copy pasta until it moves to common... or we take the effort to move it to common.. may be we don't need rpc at all? | 18:37 |
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| jgriffith | So I'm hoping that as we write code and put it in we are careful enough to not dup what's in common. That should go without saying | 18:37 |
| jgriffith | WRT rpc, that's a whole different topic. Can we get by with just rest endpoints? | 18:37 |
| vladimir3p | yeah, instead of copying to cinder it will be better to copy to common | 18:38 |
| vladimir3p | hmm... how? | 18:38 |
| vladimir3p | we have API --> scheduler --> manager | 18:38 |
| vladimir3p | somehow they must communicate | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: If we can contribute to common we surely should | 18:38 |
| jgriffith | vladimir3p: Ahh, see what you're saying | 18:39 |
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| vladimir3p | if endpoint APIs will communicate directly with manager - it is s different story, but IMHO they must be different | 18:39 |
| vladimir3p | and cinder must be a scalable solution | 18:40 |
| rnirmal | yeah looks like we'll need it to start out. and I don't think we've had any proposals or ideas to do it differently | 18:40 |
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| rnirmal | do we have anything else for this week? I think there's enough work set out for this week | 18:43 |
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| jgriffith | I'm also trying to figure out if there's a clever way to have a somewhat "isolated" service | 18:44 |
| jgriffith | Regardless, I'd like to tackle some of the lower hanging fruit first (api's, db etc) | 18:44 |
| jgriffith | agreement? | 18:44 |
| jgriffith | Anybody here still? | 18:44 |
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| vladimir3p | so, any volunteer to strip common code from john's repo? | 18:44 |
| vladimir3p | by irc behaves weird | 18:44 |
| vladimir3p | *my | 18:45 |
| rnirmal | +1 on low hanging fruit first | 18:45 |
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| vladimir3p | ok, need to go now | 18:46 |
| vladimir3p | +2 with everything what we've discussed | 18:46 |
| vladimir3p | ;-) | 18:46 |
| rnirmal | ok looks like jgriffith's network is down | 18:46 |
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| vladimir3p | yep | 18:47 |
| vladimir3p | rnirmal: you mentioned that you already done the separation of common for reddwarf? | 18:47 |
| vladimir3p | where can I take a look at repo? | 18:48 |
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| rnirmal | well not a complete separation | 18:48 |
| rnirmal | https://github.com/hub-cap/reddwarf_lite | 18:48 |
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| rnirmal | but we atleast hit a few points where stuff needed to be in openstack-common but not there right now | 18:48 |
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| vladimir3p | yes, thanks | 18:49 |
| vladimir3p | I suppose it will be way better to put as much as possible common code into openstack=common | 18:49 |
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| vladimir3p | and to avoid code replication | 18:49 |
| rnirmal | yes totally agree and we can concentrate on the pieces that matter | 18:49 |
| vladimir3p | great | 18:50 |
| rnirmal | cool is there anything else? looks like jgriffith won't be able to make it back.. | 18:50 |
| vladimir3p | nope | 18:51 |
| rnirmal | if that's all we can end the meeting. not sure if I can do that | 18:51 |
| vladimir3p | any idea how to end the meeting? | 18:51 |
| rnirmal | but going to give it a try | 18:51 |
| rnirmal | #endmeeting | 18:51 |
| vladimir3p | :_( | 18:51 |
| rnirmal | nope looks like I don't have the permissions to do that... that should have ended the meeting with meeting notes etc | 18:51 |
| vladimir3p | yeah, seems like only john can do it ... | 18:52 |
| vladimir3p | but I might be wrong | 18:52 |
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| rnirmal | yeah I think it's configured.. I'll ask ttx if we can do it | 18:52 |
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| vladimir3p | #endmeeting | 18:54 |
| vladimir3p | :-) | 18:54 |
| rnirmal | ttx or vishy can one of you'll end this meeting? the moderator jgriffith got cut off. | 18:54 |
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| rnirmal | well looks like it's going to be dangling till someone else can come and end the meeting :) | 18:55 |
| vladimir3p | ok | 18:55 |
| rnirmal | anyways I gotta go. will meet up next week and hopefully have code in the official repo :) | 18:55 |
| vladimir3p | great | 18:55 |
| vladimir3p | bye | 18:55 |
| rnirmal | bye | 18:56 |
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| vishy | #endmeeting | 19:11 |
| vishy | nope :) | 19:11 |
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| maoy | n0ano: greetings | 20:01 |
| n0ano | maoy, you survived the summit I see | 20:02 |
| n0ano | #startmeeting | 20:02 |
| openstack | n0ano: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. | 20:02 |
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| maoy | n0ano, yeah. | 20:03 |
| maoy | n0ano: how are you? | 20:03 |
| n0ano | did someone hijack our meeting, I can't start it another one is in progess | 20:03 |
| maoy | n0ano: i don't have much to say.. | 20:03 |
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| n0ano | maoy, major jet lagged, I got home at 2AM last night :-) | 20:03 |
| vishy | the last meeting was never ended | 20:03 |
| maoy | n0ano: a lot of catching up after a week of absence | 20:03 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 20:04 |
| n0ano | hmm, I can't seem to end the last meeting, do we need an admin to do something? | 20:04 |
| n0ano | maoy, I don't have anything either, I just got back to the office this morning | 20:05 |
| n0ano | if sriram joins we can see if he has anything otherwise just meet up again next wee. | 20:05 |
| n0ano | s/wee/seek | 20:05 |
| maoy | sure. | 20:05 |
| n0ano | s/seek/week | 20:05 |
| * n0ano needs to get his coordination back | 20:05 | |
| maoy | SandyWalsh told me how to send in a work-in-progress branch | 20:06 |
| maoy | but i'm still unclear how to do feature branch | 20:06 |
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| n0ano | I don't know about those, are they maybe just the same thing by a different name? | 20:06 |
| maoy | no idea.. | 20:07 |
| n0ano | sounds like you need to talk to sandy again | 20:07 |
| maoy | vishy: is feature branch the same as work-in-progress branch in gerrit? | 20:07 |
| vishy | there is no support for feature branches yet | 20:07 |
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| notmyname | jgriffith: needs to #endmeeting | 20:07 |
| vishy | so WIP is the current method | 20:07 |
| maoy | got it | 20:08 |
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| sriramhere | any nova-orchestration guys here? | 20:09 |
| sriramhere | sorry i am late | 20:09 |
| n0ano | sriramhere, yep, maoy & I are here but we don't have anything for today, do you? | 20:09 |
| sriramhere | nope, just wanted to check for updates if any. | 20:11 |
| sriramhere | and generally say HI and good job on the presentation last week entire team! | 20:11 |
| n0ano | Indeed, tnx to both of you, you did the heavy lifting | 20:12 |
| sriramhere | n0ano - to pick a bone with you that you didnt rig the raffle so that I can win :-) | 20:12 |
| n0ano | well, it's only one SSD drive so you couldn't split it with, not point in my rigging things :-) | 20:12 |
| sriramhere | :) | 20:12 |
| maoy | lol | 20:13 |
| sriramhere | thanks again guys, cya next week then... | 20:13 |
| maoy | what's you guys launchpad accounts? | 20:13 |
| maoy | before you go.. | 20:13 |
| n0ano | I think we're good then (fortunately since we can't start the meeting) so we'll talk again next week (hopefully with something to say then). | 20:13 |
| n0ano | mines the same, n0ano | 20:13 |
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| maoy | noted | 20:14 |
| sriramhere | sriramhere or sriram-x | 20:14 |
| sriramhere | sriram-x | 20:14 |
| maoy | ok | 20:16 |
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| maoy | c ya next week | 20:16 |
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| jgriffith | vishy: Did you manage to end the meeting? | 20:29 |
| jgriffith | Or shall I try it now? | 20:29 |
| vishy | go | 20:29 |
| vishy | no one else can do it | 20:29 |
| jgriffith | #endmeeting | 20:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 26 20:30:09 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-18.02.html | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-18.02.txt | 20:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-04-26-18.02.log.html | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | Sorry everyone... send complaints directly to comcast | 20:30 |
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