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heckjmorning! (for me)18:00
heckjAnyone here for the keystone meeting?18:00
ayoungheckj, I am18:01
dolphmo/18:01
ayoung\O/18:01
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heckjrock on, let's get started then18:01
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heckj#startmeeting18:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  6 18:01:29 2012 UTC.  The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.18:01
heckj(gimme a sec to get this together)18:01
heckjAgenda for today:18:02
heckj* status and progress (bugs, blueprints)18:02
heckj* any high pri stuff?18:02
heckj* open discussion18:02
heckjSo...18:02
heckj#topic status and progress18:02
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heckjI'll start off with some updates from last meeting.18:02
heckjI didn't get all the bugs triaged (although I made some headway this morning), and while I've burned down the old blueprints, not many new ones have yet popped up.18:03
heckjI'm going to make a run through all the bugs and tag them with "blueprint" if I think they're likely more "work to do" rather than issues, to get things back aligned with how LP seems to want to work18:03
heckjOpening new blueprints is totally fair game - I'm going to stick with "please assign them to yourself" to present yourself as advocate for the work. Without an advocate for the work or design, a blueprint won't stand a chance of getting approved, etc.18:04
heckjI also took a run through the open questions and answered some of those.18:04
heckjayoung: could use your help on one: #link https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/18930818:05
ayounglooking...18:05
heckjIt's about how to set up LDAP, and none of our docs have any detail about how to set that up based on your code submissions.18:05
heckjAny answers there would make a good starting point for docs, which we really should have for the backends.18:05
ayoungsqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine...18:05
ayoungum  looks like a misconfiguration18:05
heckjyeah18:06
heckjBut I think his core question was how to set up LDAP, which I didn't have any detail on...18:06
ayoungheckj, http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/02/openstack-keystone-ldap-redux/18:06
ayoungBut I will come up with a distilled version for the Docs18:07
heckj#link http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/02/openstack-keystone-ldap-redux/18:07
heckjayoung: ah, cool.18:07
heckjayoung: would you be interested in writing that into a restructured text doc for our keystone.openstack.org site?18:07
ayoungsure...I've learned a bit since I wrote that, too, so I think I can make it clearer18:07
heckjsweet! That would be great!18:07
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ayoung#action ayoung to write up LDAP config for  keystone.openstack.org18:08
heckjLooking back, I'm not seeing a whole lot else from the prior meeting.18:08
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heckjAside from docs & bug fixing, my focus on the bugs, blueprints, and questions is to gather up as much detail and coordination around setting up the Folsom design summit as possible - coming up here in a just a month or so.18:09
heckj(damn, that's speeding down on us).18:09
ayoungheckj, would it make sense to put LDAP support into the keystone-manage toolchain?18:09
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ayoungis that the right approach?18:09
heckjIf you guys have a second, I'd love you to read through #link http://wiki.openstack.org/KeystoneFolsomSummitTopics (if you haven't already) and add in anything you think it missing18:10
dolphmWill do18:10
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heckjayoung: damn, just erased what I meant to write.18:10
joesavak\o hi all18:11
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heckjayoung: any bootstrapping/init is relevant to keystone-manage18:11
dolphmjoesavak: http://wiki.openstack.org/KeystoneFolsomSummitTopics18:11
heckjayoung: any initialization of data beyond that we're running through the keystoneclient18:12
joesavakhi dolph18:12
ayoungheckj, OK,  I think that probably needs to be a blueprint.  If there is time at the end of this meeting, can we hack it together on an Etherpad?18:12
heckjjoesavak -morning!18:12
heckjayoung: yeah, no problem!18:12
znsHi - I just got here too.18:12
heckjmorning Ziad!18:12
znsmorning!18:12
joesavakafternoonish!18:12
heckjOkay - so administravia updates are pretty much complete at this point - I'll let you guys read the backlog for those details.18:13
heckjAny high pri bugs or current "oh shit" issues that need immediate attention?18:13
ayoungheckj, there is the general; set of tickets around the config stuff18:14
ayoungmarkmc did a decent amount of effort to try and clean up the keystone impl.  We should, at a minimum, understand what he is trying to do,  and either active embrace or reject it.18:15
heckjyeah - that whole design point is pending some continued discussion between termie and mark. Neither here, so I don't know that we can move that along right now, but it's definitely outstanding.18:15
heckjthere's some quesitons outstanding in #link https://review.openstack.org/#change,454718:15
heckjAnd that moved to the openstack list at #link https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg08329.html18:16
heckj(I hope I'm using this # link thing correctly)18:16
heckjThe general idea of moving in line with openstack-common I think we're all for - there's just some pending "how do we" design choices that need to be made around configuration options and testing.18:17
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heckjAny other big issues?18:17
znswe did the cfg implementation on master and had some tricky things to work through. Mostly around dashes vs. underscores. There may be some lessons learnt that could be helpful. Ed Leafe worked on it..18:17
heckjzns: "on master" meaning master in keystone? openstack-common?18:18
znsheckj: master in Keystone pre-KSL18:18
heckjzns: thanks, coolie18:18
znsIs KSL using the same config files? If not, might nort be relevant...18:19
ayoungzns, yes,  same files18:19
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anotherjesseheckj: working on landing the memcache support to auth_token18:19
heckj(same problems too)18:19
heckjanotherjesse: anything blocking that or making it difficult?18:19
znsanotherjesse: is that a rewrite of the pre-KSL memcache code or a port?18:20
anotherjesseheckj: nope, just thinking through how to simplify it.. it has a lot of logic right now, trying to simplify to "cache this, if it expires, validate again and only cache what keystone says"18:20
heckjThe other code base that needs some commentary attention is #link https://review.openstack.org/#change,4659 - I think most of you have already looked, but in case you hadn't seen it - it's enabling policy (like Nova) just within keystone for now.18:20
anotherjessezns: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/middleware/auth_token.py18:20
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anotherjessezns: the token middleware was rewritten last week due to bugs that folks found18:21
heckjzns: auth_token got a 22-patch-set extensive rewrite in the past week.18:21
heckjOkay - moving on18:22
anotherjesseheckj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/943722 will need addressed before RC18:22
heckj#topic open discussion18:22
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 943722 in keystone "token auth needs unit tests" [Critical,Confirmed]18:22
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heckjanotherjesse: lookin'18:22
znsheckj, anotherjesse: yes, I see it looks very different. OK.18:22
heckjanotherjesse: agreed and tagged to RC1, so we've got it locked in for attention18:23
gyeeyou guys still preserve the same interface as the old auth_token middleware right?18:23
anotherjessegyee: yep18:23
gyeeI love you guys!18:23
anotherjessegyee: and documented it in the file18:23
anotherjessehttps://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/middleware/auth_token.py#L5918:23
heckjIf anyone else sees a bug they think it critical and we haven't marked it as such, yell at me (irc, email, etc) with a bug # to get my attention.18:23
heckjgyee: it definitely got a LOT of attention. The most patchsets on a single change that I've seen so far, and some of the horizon ones have really gone on...18:24
gyeeI'll spend sometime reading the code18:25
heckjI noticed some of the module docs are flowing through to our keystone.openstack.org - I'm going to bug that and dig in it. Anyone else seen this?18:25
heckj(http://keystone.openstack.org/py-modindex.html)18:25
znsHave you guys seen the gource videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRDRNuFfYGo for keystone and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD80PDDn6gw for all of openstack. CHeck'em out...18:25
gyeezns, yeah, awesome video18:26
heckj#link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRDRNuFfYGo18:26
heckj#link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD80PDDn6gw18:26
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anotherjessenot a permanent link but jakedahn is working on revising the sphinx html format to be similar to openstack.org (as part of docday)18:27
anotherjessehttp://jakedahn.com/os-example/identity.html18:27
rafaduranI would like to ask: How tokens can be added to keystone?Neither keystoneclient support it nor keystone-manage, do they?18:27
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anotherjesserafaduran: what does adding a token mean?18:28
heckjOkay - docs and bugs right now - please take a look at #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical and #link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=High for things that need pretty immediate attention18:28
rafadurancreate a new toke, e.g. the service token18:28
heckjanotherjesse: Oooh! Nice!18:28
anotherjesseyou usually create a token by posting to /v2.0/token with the auth creds for the user/tenant you want a token for18:28
anotherjesserafaduran: the preferred way to do service tokens is to create a service tenant & users for each service and then put the user/pass in the auth_token config18:29
heckjrafaduran: keystone doesn't have a means of accepting tokens created from extenal mechanisms and storing/using them.18:29
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heckjanotherjesse: I missed some of that early auth_token conversation - did the other project folks prefer a service based user/passwd in their configs to a "special token/shared secret"?18:30
anotherjesseheckj: ya - the preference seemed to be going towards service based user/pass18:31
rafaduranok, that's fine for users, but what about the service token? If I'm no wrong, other services need it to be created, do I?18:31
anotherjesserafaduran: a service is a special case of a user - https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack-dev/devstack.git;a=blob;f=files/keystone_data.sh;h=958d2af4f2f19d392e993d4bf60a4d7c6734f9f7;hb=b7d1fbbe20ce8ef60607d937c22293dfff90e96418:31
anotherjesseheckj: the idea being that we could improve the recommendation to certs instead of passwords for service users in folsom (or something more secure)18:32
heckjrafaduran: The sysadmin setting up openstack creates service accounts for all the services. Right now we have a single tenant that acts as the owner for these services.18:32
heckjanotherjesse: makes sense, will probably make any federation concepts a bit easier as well.18:32
znsanotherjesse, heckj: do you need to create a tenant for the service users or owners? I had removed that dependency a while back and returned global endpoints for unscoped admin tokens.18:34
ayoungheckj, so all of this falls under the PKI discussion we will have in Folsom18:34
heckjzns: the concept of scoping has been pitched out the window - all tokens are scoped. So we've added back in a tenant to collect the services. In devstack, it's named "service" by default.18:34
rafaduranI think I'm probabling using old configuration files where the token is needed, I will review, thanks all for your answer18:34
ayoungtokens can be done cryptographically,  and thus remove the need for a network call18:34
ayoungto verify a token18:34
ayoungbut that is def beyond the Essex scope18:35
heckjayoung: ya - lots we could do much better there (folsom timeframe)18:35
gyeeis that the scalability BP we are talking about?18:35
ayounggyee, possibly18:35
znsheckj: How does one call GET /tenants to get a list of all tenants?18:35
gyeeI think I commented on etherpad on that one18:35
ayounggyee, it will certainly increase the Keystone scalability.   It also has the potential to make the system more secure.18:36
ayoungzns, needs the admin role...18:37
heckjzns: by authorizing as the service (which we set up to have an "admin" role), or as a user with administrative privs18:37
znsayoung: is there a blueprint out for that?18:37
gyeeayoung, I am also concern about the size of the token18:37
ayoungzns, for PKI?18:37
heckjzns: take a look at the link that anotherjesse listed earlier for how it's created in devstack18:37
gyeetokens are passed via http headers18:37
znsayoung: yes, BP for PKI.18:37
gyeeso if the size gets too big, it may not be http friendly18:37
ayoungzns, not yet,  we just started the discussion18:37
ayounggyee, well,  HTTP handles client certs and server certs just fine....18:38
gyeePKI's fine18:38
ayoungso we just have to keep it that size or smaller18:38
heckjgyee: valid concern, there's ways and things to watch out for in implementation.18:38
heckjgyee, ayoung - you guys are coming to the folsom design summit, yeah?18:38
gyeethat scalability PB is talking about encoding all kinds of stuff into the token itself18:38
gyeewith RBAC, that token can only get bigger18:38
ayoungheckj, I have to convince my Boss.  I'd like to,  but if not, I'll all in18:38
ayoungcall in18:38
znsheckj: I see it. Thanks. joesavak: is this still compatible with Rackspace auth?18:39
ayoungWe will certainly have someone there.18:39
gyeekeckj, yes, I've registered already18:39
gyeeheckj18:39
heckjayoung: Stefano asserted they were going to have live streaming/dial-in links for this one (like the Ubuntu summit). That's some serious networking, but I'm hoping we'll get that nailed well.18:39
joesavakzns: i'll need to review18:39
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znsjoesavak: let me know. I think I did a lot of testing with novaclient and keystone client against Rackspace Auth, but I'm not sure someone has picked that up from me (as I'm not doing that right now).18:41
heckjanything else for the meeting proper?18:41
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heckjOkay - thanks all. If you have anything you want to add to the agenda for next week, let me know.18:43
heckj#endmeeting18:43
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znsheckj: thank you!18:44
ayoungheckj, can we chat about the keystone-manage and keystone-client stuff  now that the official meeting is over?18:47
heckjayoung: totally18:48
heckjWe've got 10 minutes yet before anyone else comes charging in18:49
ayoungheckj, OK,  so the keystone-maange application is used to set up the SQL back end, right?18:49
ayoungIdeally we would want feature parity.18:50
heckjayoung: so the gist is, anything that's bootstraping to get the very basics of keystone up and running should go into keystone-manage. Right now that's db_sync (schema setup, migration), and import/export of data for other data migrations.18:50
ayoungheckj, right18:50
heckjayoung: I'd think with an LDAP backend, there'd be something similiar for setting up LDAP? Or whatever the right thing to do there to bootstrap the schema into place is...18:51
ayoungso the LDAP equivalent would be to ldapadd the subtress for users and tenants18:51
heckjayoung: yeah, makes sense.18:51
ayoungand perhaps to inject the admi user18:51
ayoungheckj, and it writes the config file values, right?18:51
heckjIf we can add the admin user in through the keystoneclient, that would be preferable - I'm viewing that as data initialization, but otherwise right on18:51
heckjayoung: yeah, and config file values is fair game too18:52
ayoungheckj, so  1.  set [identity]18:52
ayoungdriver = keystone.identity.backends.ldap.Identity18:52
ayoungall the user to enter the URL18:52
ayoungfor18:52
ayoung[ldap]18:53
ayoungurl = ldap://localhost18:53
ayoungor whatnot18:53
ayounguser = dc=Manager,dc=younglogic,dc=com18:53
ayoungpassword = freeipa4all18:53
heckjayoung: just to make sure I'm on the same page - this is something done manually prior to running any keystone-manage commands, right?18:53
ayoungheckj, no18:53
ayoungthat was what I was asking18:53
ayoungshould keystone-manage perform that18:53
heckjayoung: got it.18:54
ayoungshould it?18:54
heckjayoung: we've got sort of a chicken and egg problem there - keystone-manage *uses* the configuration it finds, so it rather needs that set up to be able to do any work18:54
ayoungheckj, OK18:54
heckjWe're expecting that config to be in place prior to keystone-manage commands being invoked18:54
ayoungso,  once it is in place,  where does it migrate the data *from*?18:55
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ayoungall of the connection information for the legacy is passed on the command line?18:55
heckjayoung: In the case of the import, it's provided as a config file. Otherwise it's responsible for setting up basic "schema" (in SQL terms - not sure the relevant LDAP terms) and then the data is added using the "keystone" command through the API18:56
ayoungheckj, does keystone-manage set up the admin user?18:56
heckjayoung: no, not at all.18:56
ayoungso isn't there a bootstrap problem?18:56
ayoungif you have a default database, but no admin user,  you can't create other users18:57
heckjayoung: with keystoneclient -> keystone, it's using a shared secret (admin-token) to authorize and do what it needs to through the API, so the API is used to create admin users, etc.18:57
ayoungheckj, ok,  so admin-token....18:57
ayoungthose are not going to get stored in LDAP...18:57
ayoungtokens in general are going to go into some other store KVS or SQL18:58
heckjayoung: that's the secret to get keystone (python-keystoneclient) talking to keystone service.18:58
ayoungheckj, so when keystoneclient talks to keystone service,  it doesn't need a user or tenant to perform admin actions?18:58
heckjayoung: exactly. As long as it has that admin token, it's good to do what it needs18:59
ayoungOK18:59
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ayoungso I don't think I need to modify keystone-manage for  LDAP18:59
ayoungIt might be a nice to have to set up the schema...but not essential18:59
heckjcool18:59
heckjyeah, I could see where having it install the schema would be nice - but not critical19:00
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ayoungheckj, the schema is trivial enough,  and since you have to modify the config file by hand,  and set up the LDAP server, I think we just provide a template for the users to do it themselves.19:00
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heckjayoung: sounds good19:01
heckjayoung: you good? I'm going to need to split for another meeting. I'll be back on IRC later though...19:01
ayoungsounds good to me19:01
ayoungheckj, actually, do I need permissions to modify the wiki?19:03
sorenUh.. CI meeting?19:04
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LinuxJedi_cellMtaylor?19:05
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jeblairhrm, not answering his cell phone19:06
LinuxJedi_cellMaybe he is on a phone meeting19:07
soren*cough* slacker *cough*19:07
soren:)19:07
LinuxJedi_cellLol :)19:07
jeblairI'm guessing the keystone meeting is over though...19:08
jeblair#endmeeting19:08
jeblairdoes the chair have to do that?19:08
LinuxJedi_cellI believe so19:08
jeblairoh, it ended a while before it ended.  :)19:09
jeblairat 43 past.19:09
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jeblairwe may be on our own.  anyone have anything they want to talk or hear about?19:09
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LinuxJedi_cellNot on a 4 inch keypad19:10
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heckjayoung: you should be able to log in to the wiki with your launchpad credentials19:33
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sorenNo PPB meeting?20:01
notmynameno meeting this week20:02
pvocool.20:02
sorenNo inaugural meeting for the new ppb?20:03
sorenOk. *shrug*20:03
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ttxo/21:00
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notmynamehi21:01
ttxheckj/zns, bcwaldon/jaypipes, vishy, devcamcar: around ?21:02
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soreno/21:02
sorenttx: Weird. It's not DST madness time until next week. I wonder where everyone is.21:03
dolphmi'm here21:03
dolphmjust sayin'21:03
ttxwaiting a bit for the Californians21:03
danwentttx: you saying that all californians are lazy?? :)21:04
ttxdanwent: not all. :)21:04
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sorendanwent: Not while they're listening :)21:05
danwent:)21:05
vishyo/21:05
jaypipeso/21:05
ttxstill missing heckj or zns, and devcamcar21:05
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ttxI guess we can start and reorder a bit the topics to wait until they join21:06
ttx#startmeeting21:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  6 21:06:16 2012 UTC.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.21:06
ttxToday's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:06
ttxWe'll look into the RC1 bug lists, and see if we are on track21:06
ttx#info To visualize convergence towards the final objective, I created RC bug charts:21:06
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/rc1.html21:06
ttxThis should help in assessing if we are going in the wall, or are making good progress.21:07
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ttxSkipping keystone until zns or heckj joins21:07
ttx#topic Swift status21:07
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ttxnotmyname: o/21:07
notmynamehi21:07
ttx1.4.7/1.4.8 plans ?21:07
notmynamegreat question, I'm glad you asked :-)21:08
ttxhehe21:08
notmynamewe have a couple of patches that need to be released asap (they affect durability in large clusters), and so we will be releasing 1.4.7 late this week with 1.4.8 to follow in a couple of weeks as the final essex release21:08
znsttx: hi - I'm here… but heckj is already driving keystone and I'm not up to speed.21:09
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notmynamethe important patches are https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/f51c1de52d04aba57d2b5586f65070b79a39ca4b and https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/3c7e983793654899b22e801c7f655fa70b0399af21:09
heckjo/ (sorry I'm late)21:09
notmynamebut all of the patches until now will be going in to 1.4.721:09
ttx1.4.7 release ETA set to Friday, this week ?21:09
notmynamethis will also give a nice head-start on testing for exxex21:09
notmynameyes, 1.4.7 on friday is the goal21:10
notmyname1.4.8 on or around the 22nd21:10
ttx#action ttx to adjust tentative Swift 1.4.7/1.4.8 release dates21:10
ttxnotmyname: Anything else ?21:10
notmynameI think that's all I have about current swift stuff. I encourage everyone to start thinking about what they want to discuss about swift at the summit21:11
notmynamewell, think about everything else too :-)21:11
ttxQuestions on Swift ?21:11
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ttx#topic Keystone status21:11
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ttxzns, heckj: o/21:12
heckjo/21:12
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-rc121:12
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ttxI see 11 open bugs there.21:12
ttxDoes that list accurately represent all the currently-known release blockers ?21:12
ttxOr do you still have to run through the buglist and target more ?21:12
heckjttx: still in progress to get bugs triaged - not complete, btu the ones there represent work against RC121:12
ttxWas thinking about bug 947013, for example21:12
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 947013 in keystone "user-list throws error/traceback when it should provide nice "unauthorized" message" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94701321:12
heckjttx: also haven't caught up on bugs -> blueprints for the folsom summit, which is also in progress21:13
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ttxheckj: remember RC1 is supposed to be releasable, unless something new comes up that justifies an RC221:13
heckjttx: if anyone believes a bug is higher importance, i'm requesting they contact me directly to assign to a higher priority or begin the work to complete it.21:13
ttxso it's important to come up with a complete RC buglist21:14
heckjttx: yeah, got it.21:14
heckjttx: again, got it. Like I said - in progress.21:14
ttxBug 943722 needs an assignee.21:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 943722 in keystone "token auth needs unit tests" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94372221:14
ayoungI can take it21:14
ttxayoung: great, assign yourself please21:14
ayoungdone21:14
ttxAny blockers on the other bugs ?21:14
heckjttx: review is still needed before I can reasonably answer that21:15
heckjttx: focus for everyone right now is bugs and docs improvement, leading to solid product and "how to" on all fronts prior to release.21:15
ttxno, I mean... on the bugs already on the list, are there anything blocking the fix that you want to raise a flag about ?21:16
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ttxor do they all look "fixable"21:16
heckjttx: from that list, no - there's some ongoing discussion that just moved to the list about using openstack-common - some needs related to testing and how they work need to get worked out. All the bugs currently listed look fixable - no blocks for the list extant.21:17
ttxheckj: Cool. Anything else ?21:17
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heckjOpen request again for folks to send me use cases around keystone deployment, or otherwise add to the wiki page (link in a sec)21:18
ttxQuestions about Keystone ?21:18
heckj#link http://wiki.openstack.org/KeystoneFolsomSummitTopics, http://wiki.openstack.org/KeystoneUseCases21:18
heckjin prep for keystone discussions at Folsom design summit21:18
ttxheckj: RC1 bug countdown graph available at http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/rc1.html -- in case you missed the link earlier21:19
heckjttx: thanks!21:19
ttx#topic Glance status21:19
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ttxjaypipes/bcwaldon: yo21:19
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-rc121:19
ttx4 open bugs left.21:19
ttxThat list looks complete. Any bug missing from that list ?21:20
jaypipesttx: no status report. there are open reviews needing to occur.21:20
jaypipesttx: at PyCon this week so not going to be a whole lot of time21:20
ttxBug 945173, maybe ?21:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 945173 in glance "Specify image_id with 'glance add'" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94517321:20
ttxOr bug 939257 ?21:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 939257 in glance "container_format is not mandatory in glance add" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93925721:20
jaypipesAFAIK, both have code up for review21:21
ttxRight, so they will be in RC1 but not blocking21:21
ttxBug 934492 needs an assignee21:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 934492 in glance "bin/glance should allow nullable Name to match API spec" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93449221:21
ttx(or be untargeted)21:21
jaypipesttx: when is RC1 again?21:21
ttxjaypipes: whenever the RC1 bug list is empty21:21
jaypipesttx: k21:22
ttxHopefully sometimes in the next 2 weeks.21:22
jaypipesttx: k, I will look for a volunteer for 934492.21:22
ttxand Glance and Keystone being a bit upstream from Nova (or Horizon) the sooner the better.21:22
ttx#action jaypipes to find volunteer for 93449221:23
ttxjaypipes: Anything else ?21:23
jaypipesttx: no21:23
ttxQuestions on Glance ?21:23
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ttx#topic Nova status21:23
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ttxvishy: hey21:23
vishyhi21:23
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-rc121:24
ttx12 bugs open.21:24
ttxhmm...13 actually21:24
ttxvishy: Is it a complete representation of release blockers ?21:24
vishyyeah just targeted another one :)21:24
ttxOr should we still planify some kind of big bug prioritization meeting to make sure we evaluated all the reported issues ?21:24
vishyttx: I can't say that for sure. It is a representation of ones that I know about21:24
vishyprioritization would be great since I'm sure that there are some that are important that I haven't found yet21:25
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ttxvishy: do you think we can come up with something more scientific to process all the data we have, or should we rely on informants to flag the bugs ?21:25
vishyttx: not sure21:25
vishyask nova-core to do a bug triage?21:26
ttxthe problem with asking everyone to go through all the bugs is how much duplication of effort that creates21:26
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vishyttx: we could divide bugs up into chunks21:26
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vishyand give a few to everyone21:26
ttxvishy: let's talk of that offline -- and fix the ones we have already first21:27
vishyttx; sounds good21:27
ttx#action vishy and ttx to discuss how to ctach release-critical bugs21:27
ttxThere are a number of bugs without an assignee on the RC1 list:21:27
ttxBug 92881921:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 928819 in nova "Launching instance fails in Precise A2 - network/manager.py too many values to unpack" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92881921:27
ttxWho wants that one ? Had code proposed but missing a test21:28
vishyso all four of the unassigned ones should be pretty simple21:28
vishyjust need volunteers :)21:28
ttxjkoelker was on it, but review stalled on the need for a test21:28
ttxBug 94642721:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 946427 in nova "Authorizing ICMP w/o specifying types adds 1-65535/tcp and 1-65536/udp" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94642721:28
ttxbug 94777621:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 947776 in nova "need flag to disable ratelimiting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94777621:28
ttxbug 94828621:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948286 in nova "euca-describe-instances returns ImageNotFound on first run" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94828621:29
ttxWe need volunteers!21:29
vishyttx: maybe we should take them to the ml21:29
jdgI'll look at the Precise bug21:29
mnewbyI'll take 94828621:29
ttxRight, if nobody works on them there is no way we can keep them as release blockers :)21:29
russellbi can take whichever :)21:29
ttxjdg, mnewby, russellb: Thanks! Assign yourself.21:30
ttx#action vishy to take leftover RC1 bugs (if any) to the ML for volunteers21:30
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ttxvishy: Anything else ?21:31
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vishyjust a reminder to core to let me know about potential release blockers so i can target them21:31
vishyI will put that in the email too21:31
ttxvishy: do you want to discuss the Nova subtracks for the design summit now ?21:31
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ttxvishy: or brainstorm a bit more before we do ?21:32
anticwhammertime21:32
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vishybrainstorm for a bit21:32
vishywe can discuss next week21:32
ttxok21:32
anticwthe root-wrapper ... can we talk about how that's supposed to work?21:32
ttxQuestions on Nova ?21:32
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anticwyes21:32
ttxanticw: sure21:32
ttxanticw: maybe talk to me after the meeting21:33
anticwgiven i still need sudo to run it ... and it's python ... and i can setr PYTHON_PATH ... i can pervert what it does21:33
ttxanticw: since I wrote it I should be able to explain it.21:33
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anticwwhat's more, it's not clear if it letsd me run dd ...  and it doesn't (because it can't) check arguments ... then i can use dd to replace /etc/passwd21:33
anticwor tee21:33
anticwso it's not clear how this helps21:33
ttxanticw: sure, we can discuss that off-meeting together21:34
ttx#topic Horizon status21:34
anticwin fact it moves the mess that is /etc/sudoers* to python code ... and uses matching there ... but doesn't change how it works21:34
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anticwwhich is the problem21:34
devcamcaro/21:34
ttxdevcamcar: o/21:34
ttxdevcamcar: Wanted to talk about E4 tarball re-publication21:34
devcamcaryep21:34
devcamcarwe've had the discussions, i think we just need to pick a path and move forward21:34
ttxanticw: will ping you on #openstack-dev when the meeting is over21:35
ttxHorizon E4 published tarball was broken due to missing MANIFEST.in, which is fixed now21:35
ttxThe current pre-rc1 snapshots are OK, is it worth republishing it or should we rather spend our time on RC1 work ?21:35
ttxMy opinion is that what's done is done, we should race towards RC1, and anyone who needs a working tarball before then can use a recent snapshot21:35
devcamcarttx: i agree21:35
devcamcarmost of remaining issues are related to translations or minor bugs21:35
ttxdevcamcar: cool. I also push CI so that we get a test that will avoid such issue in the future21:35
devcamcarand a few upstream packaging issues21:35
ttx#link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-rc121:36
devcamcarthat'd be great21:36
ttxdevcamcar: so the 18 remaining bugs are all translations or minor bugs ?21:36
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devcamcarwe had a situation where we had some project structure changes we wanted to wait until end to introduce so we wouldn't cause everyone with outstanding reviews to have to rebase21:36
devcamcarand ended up breaking the packaging21:36
devcamcardamned if you do etc :)21:36
ttxI know the feeling21:37
ttx3 unassigned bugs on the list21:37
ohnoimdeadttx: we should be down to 12 confirmed and 4 in progress21:37
ttxdevcamcar: Should I assign "nebula" to those until you get someone more specific working on it ?21:37
devcamcarttx: mostly yes - we also have a few minor ux improvements to work in21:37
devcamcarttx: i only see 2 unassigned?21:37
ttxdamn it :)21:37
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devcamcarttx: oh, there's another that is unassigned but that's because it was fixed inadvertently by another patch21:37
devcamcarand is marked fix committed21:38
ttxjust one left unassigned now ;)21:38
devcamcarok :)21:38
devcamcari think we should be able to provide a pretty solid rc in about a week21:38
ttxI checked that 40 minutes ago :)21:38
devcamcar40 minutes? that's forever in openstack time21:38
ttxbug 934064 -> assign to Nebula ?21:38
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 934064 in openstack-dashboard "Installing openstack-dashboard on Precise removes Keystone package" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93406421:38
ttxor do you have someone in mind ?21:39
devcamcarits purely an upstream packaging issue i believe - need to investigate further21:39
devcamcari'll assign to nebula for now and we'll track it21:39
ttxok21:39
ttxdevcamcar: Anything else ?21:39
devcamcarlooks like chuck short is all over it21:39
devcamcarthat is all for now!21:39
ttxNow I need to erase that picture from my mind before going to sleep21:40
ttxQuestions for Horizon ?21:40
devcamcarttx: actually looks like 934064 is already fixed upstream21:40
devcamcarwill wait for confirmation from chuck though21:40
ttxdevcamcar: cool, update it21:40
devcamcarwill at least tag it in progress ;)21:41
ttx#topic Incubated projects and other Team reports21:41
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ttxdanwent, troytoman: yo21:41
danwenthi21:41
danwenthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc121:41
danwentnothing big or scary, just a few things we're looking to fix up for rc121:41
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danwentdoes friday make sense as a target date?21:42
ttxdanwent: if you get to the bottom of the list, why not21:42
ttxdanwent: remember RC1 is supposed to be your Essex release until proven otherwise21:42
danwentk, great.  I think that's definitely achieveable.  Yup.21:42
ttxso you might want to be careful rather than doing too early21:42
ttxSince once RC1 is out you open master for Folsom dev21:43
danwentok, will talk with the team about it, but I don't think we're planning on adding any new features.  may want to check what coverage we have on 12.04 yet, as that packaging just came together (thanks chuck!)21:43
ttxand if a RC2 is needed it's built from milestone-proposed21:43
danwentk21:43
ttxthat said, you're not core so you can do what you want :)21:44
ttx(for Essex)21:44
danwentok, that's all from me.21:44
ttxAny other team lead with a status report ? annegentle, mtaylor ?21:44
annegentleDoc Day in full swing!21:44
ttxJoin #openstack-docday !21:45
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annegentlewe'd welcome feedback on this outline http://etherpad.openstack.org/drs6dPNF4p21:46
ttx#help please provide feedback on outline at http://etherpad.openstack.org/drs6dPNF4p21:46
ttxannegentle: anything else ?21:46
mtaylorttx: things are great21:47
mtaylorttx: also, jeblair is looking in to the current usage cap on cloud servers21:47
ttxmtaylor: so we could use more builders at peak time ? Cloudy.21:47
mtaylorttx: we hit a "we can't spin up more servers" error21:48
mtaylorttx: we may be leaking servers - no final status - but we're looking at it21:48
ttxEFINITECLOUD21:48
ttxmtaylor: ok, thx for the update21:48
mtaylorttx: oh, also - when we say "open dev for folsom"21:48
mtaylorttx: don't we actually mean "branch stable/essex" ?21:49
ttxhmm, actually I meant branch milestone-proposed21:49
ttxbut at some point we need to call that stable/essex21:49
mtaylorokie21:50
ttxyou also need to push a few versioning updates to master to "open folsom"21:50
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mtaylor++21:50
ttx#action ttx and mtaylor to investigate actions around branches when we "open Folsom"21:51
ttx#topic Open discussion21:51
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ttxThe big DST madness will hit us starting next week, with US adopting DST while Europe and others stay outside DST21:51
ttxMeeting times stay the same in UTC21:51
ttxSo for US people our meetings will start one hour later starting next week.21:51
russellbyay time zones21:51
ttxI can't wait until this meeting is back at 11pm. Sigh :)21:52
ttxAnything else, anyone ?21:52
ttxGuess not. Happy RC bug hunting !21:52
ttx#endmeeting21:53
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danwenthello all!22:00
salv-orlandohello...22:00
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Ghe_Riverohi22:00
carlphi!22:00
davlaphello all!22:00
mesteryHi!22:00
markvoelkero/22:00
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danwentmarkvoelker: btw, thanks for the suggestion on low-hanging fruit… wasn't aware of that.  haven't had time to go back and switch all bugs to that yet, but its a good idea22:01
danwent#startmeeting22:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  6 22:01:18 2012 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.22:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.22:01
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danwentshoudl be a quick meeting: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings22:01
SumitNaiksatamHi All!22:01
danwentmain goal is to identify issues we need to have for RC1, and agree on target date for RC1.22:02
danwenthere is the current set of items on the table for RC1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-rc122:02
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danwentif there are any issues you feel are critical for RC1 and aren't on this list, holler now.22:02
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danwentif you find something during the next few weeks of testing that you think is critical for essex, make sure it gets targeted for an rc release22:03
rkukurahi!22:03
danwentif no blocker bugs are found in an rc release, that exact code magically becomes the essex release.22:03
debo-ossure22:03
danwentok, wanted to go through a couple of the key bugs22:03
edgarmaganahi22:04
danwent#94495922:04
danwentbug #94495922:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 944959 in quantum "API 1.1 Spec Update" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94495922:04
danwentsalvatore, do you think you'll be able to update the spec, or should we try and find someone else to tackle this?22:04
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danwentsalv-orlando: around?22:05
salv-orlandoYep. Let me give you a final answer by tomorrow22:05
danwentok.22:05
danwentthanks22:05
danwentbug #94845122:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948451 in quantum "webob deprecated warning/error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94845122:06
danwentthis is someone new and is unassigned.  would be good if someone could grab it and explore.  reported via email by two people.22:06
danwentbug #92235622:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 922356 in quantum "QuantumManager does not invoke unplug on the linux_net driver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92235622:07
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danwentsumit, are you planning on tackling this for essex still?22:07
SumitNaiksatamyes, I am22:07
SumitNaiksatamI was looking at it, and then got distracted22:07
SumitNaiksatamhow much time do I have?22:07
SumitNaiksatammost likely this going to be changes in the nova code22:08
SumitNaiksatamnot quantum22:08
danwentok, great.  you'll need to ping vish to make sure it gets targeted appropriately for nova22:08
danwentyup, agreed22:08
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danwentbug #94846722:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948467 in quantum "agents should not need to run as root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94846722:08
danwentrkukura: you doing this on your own, or will you need help from the respective plugin owners?22:08
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rkukuraeither way works for me. owners?22:09
SumitNaiksatamrkukura: anything special needed?22:09
danwenti think preference would be for you to propose something, and the plugin owners can review.22:09
salv-orlandoon bug 948451: Seems a duplicate/regression of 92537222:09
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 948451 in quantum "webob deprecated warning/error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94845122:09
rkukuraOK22:10
salv-orlandobug 925372. There you go, virtbot :22:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 925372 in quantum "Remove deprecated webob attributes in Quantum API" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92537222:10
danwentbut if you need extra info from plugin owners to make the changes, let us know22:10
rkukurawill do22:10
danwentsalv-orlando: interesting.  checking bug.22:11
danwentlet me check the people who emailed me, see what versions they were using.  hopefully its just a dup.  I will take that issue and assign it to me for now.  thanks.22:12
danwentor looks like maru already took it, which is great :)22:12
danwentmaru, definitely reject if this was already fixed.22:13
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danwentso rkurkura mentioned that fedora has their testing day on thursday22:13
cdubhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-08_OpenStack_Test_Day <-- some details22:13
danwentso we wanted to delay RC1 at least until we'd have a chance to react to any feedback22:14
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rkukuraYes22:14
danwentmy thinking was targeting March 15th, which is next thursday.22:14
danwentdoes anyone know if ubuntu has an equivalent?22:14
danwent#action #danwent to figure out if ubuntu has a testing day that we should consider in terms of RC1 target date.22:15
danwentin general, are people good with 3-15 as an RC1 target?22:15
danwentanyone think they need more time?  None of the existing bugs seem all that deep.22:15
rkukuraThe Fedora test day is for F17, but we will also have a repo with F16 Essex packages.22:15
danwentbut if something big pops up, we can shift … 3-15 is just a target.22:15
danwentrkukura:  can you add a link to the QuantumPackages wiki page?22:16
rkukuraI'll update what's there.22:16
danwenti'm trying to keep info about all of the distributions and versions in one place22:16
danwentthanks.22:17
danwentok, sounds like we'll stick with the 3/15 RC1 target, since I heard no concerns...22:17
danwentanything else to discuss about RC1?22:17
danwent#topic open discussion22:17
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davlapopenstack boston and austin user groups will be having an install/test day this thursday22:17
davlapDetails at: https://github.com/dellcloudedge/crowbar/wiki/Install-Fest-Prep22:17
danwent#info I added a new section to the starter bugs wiki page that outlines "community projects": http://wiki.openstack.org/QuantumStarterBugs22:18
danwentthese are projects that are general and for the good of the community22:18
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danwentwith quantum becoming core we need to be able to focus more cycles on cleaning up some of these items.22:18
danwentif you have ideas of other things, please add them to the page22:19
mnewbyI think it's good to maintain the projects on that page, but would suggest using 'LowHangingFruit' bug classification and link to a query for that instead of individual bugs that may not be available.22:19
danwentif you're looking for something to bite off, feel free to grab a project (put your name on it).22:19
danwentmnewby: yes, completely agree. that was mvoelkers suggestion.  do you want to update the bugs + wiki page for that?22:19
markvoelkerQuick note to everyone about time changes22:19
danwenti've been meaning to, just slipped my mind.22:20
mnewbydanwent: will do22:20
danwentmarkvoelker: yes!22:20
markvoelkerPer @ttx in previous meeting: "The big DST madness will hit us starting next week, with US adopting DST while Europe and others stay outside DST"22:20
danwentthanks for mentioning that.22:20
markvoelker"Meeting times stay the same in UTC...So for US people our meetings will start one hour later starting next week."22:20
danwentat least this time change direction is less bad, as you show up early, rather than showing up late :)22:20
danwentok, anything else for open discussion?22:21
danwentwe have a handfull of reviews we need to close out22:21
danwentplease use the RC1 target to drive what reviews you prioritize22:22
debo-osThx to folks who reviewed the devstack script22:22
danwentso we make sure we get those reviewed with highest priority22:22
danwentdebo-os: thanks for mentioning that.  what is status there?22:22
danwentis it merged, or still in feedback?22:22
debo-osmerging the feedback stuff right now ... almost done22:23
danwentgreat.22:23
danwentok, thanks folks.  keep up the testing!   Just over one week until essex RC1 target date!22:23
danwent#endmeeting22:24
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salv-orlandobye!22:24
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danwentbye22:24
SumitNaiksatambye!22:24
debo-osbye22:24
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danwentsalv-orlando: shoot, did you want to announce your talk?22:24
danwentnot sure how many people from the UK are on the meeting, but might have been useful :)22:24
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danwentyou could also ping the netstack list22:24
salv-orlandoWell, no need for a big fanfare :) Anyway, I'm going to talk about Quantum tomorrow at London QCon. My talk will be at 11.50 AM GMT. I will post videos/prez as soon as possible!22:25
danwentcool, great to hear that there will be a video.  perhaps we could post that video on the quantum site to help provide an intro to quantum.22:26
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