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| ayoung | Who's here for Keystone? | 17:59 |
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| zns | ayoung: I'm around. | 18:00 |
| rafaduran | ayoung: me too | 18:00 |
| zns | … but frankly, I've not been very involved lately. | 18:01 |
| heckj | 0/ | 18:01 |
| heckj | Sorry -was distracted for a moment. | 18:01 |
| ayoung | heckj, termie Weekly Keystone? | 18:02 |
| heckj | #startmeeting | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 18:02:18 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 18:02 |
| heckj | morning morning! (morning for me, anyway) | 18:02 |
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| heckj | agenda for today: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:02 |
| ayoung | O/ | 18:02 |
| termie | o/ | 18:03 |
| heckj | so let's jump in. Status for the E4 drop today! | 18:03 |
| heckj | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-4 | 18:03 |
| termie | heckj: i think we could probably do it, all our big stuff landed | 18:03 |
| termie | heckj: i'd like to get the config stuff in | 18:04 |
| termie | heckj: even though i don't like it | 18:04 |
| heckj | When does Theirry normally cut those branches? | 18:04 |
| heckj | (can't spell, already...) | 18:04 |
| termie | i heard "early" so i assume we're already past that | 18:04 |
| termie | zns: how has it worked in the past? | 18:04 |
| heckj | presumably we can cherry pick back? Or are those branches closed? | 18:05 |
| zns | heckj: he's done it evening European time which has translated to around 10AM Central. | 18:06 |
| zns | Is today the day to cut? | 18:06 |
| heckj | yep | 18:06 |
| zns | termie: ^ | 18:06 |
| heckj | so probably happened a couple of hours ago | 18:06 |
| zns | Should have been done already then... | 18:07 |
| zns | * going to see if there are tags in the repo * | 18:07 |
| ayoung | Only ticket not tagged complete is 942247 | 18:07 |
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| heckj | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/942247 - under review right now https://review.openstack.org/#change,4634 | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942247 in keystone "auth_token middleware should properly handle KeyError" [Critical,In progress] | 18:08 |
| heckj | So we'll likely have a few pieces to cherry pick back - I'll assume we can and check with ttx later today | 18:08 |
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| zns | I don't see anything after E3. | 18:08 |
| heckj | maybe's sleeping in then - or waiting for the openstack meeting to check before he cuts | 18:09 |
| heckj | termie: eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#change,4634 would be appreciated. I'd like to see logging, but am in general consensus that long term we'll likely want to shift this into openstack-common. What do you think for the middleware pieces? | 18:10 |
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| heckj | Anyone else have reviews pending that need immediate attention for the E4 cut? | 18:11 |
| heckj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+keystone,n,z | 18:11 |
| termie | heckj: no strong opinion on them, they are old code | 18:11 |
| termie | heckj: ayoung has a small bugfix for the ldap branch that he is about to propose | 18:12 |
| heckj | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/4639? | 18:12 |
| termie | heckj: but i assume from the way that the releases work, people file bugs and then we fix them and propose again | 18:12 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#change,4639 | 18:12 |
| ayoung | heckj, youyr faster than I am | 18:12 |
| heckj | ayoung: copy/paste from the email that just appeared :-) | 18:12 |
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| heckj | termie: I think that's the process to. Guess we'll learn as we go. | 18:13 |
| ayoung | so without this fix, in order to get the default schema to work, you need to set the config file option. I'd rather avoid posting a work-around | 18:13 |
| heckj | Okay - for now, let's assume features are frozen with respect to Keystone for Essex, and we'll focus on bug fixes and starting to set up a release candidate. Any disagreements there? | 18:13 |
| termie | heckj: nope, though definitions of feature and bug are still vague in my mind | 18:14 |
| termie | i am used to loopholing | 18:14 |
| heckj | #topic high priority bugs or issues? | 18:16 |
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| heckj | One popped in last night related to the legacy code in auth_token, dprince seems to be all over it right now. | 18:16 |
| termie | i'd say config, and possibly nova policy.js copying are high on my mind | 18:16 |
| zns | Agree with termie. There are many bugs in there that really are feature requests. I think that wil be a topic at the meeting today as we discuss post-E4 work. | 18:16 |
| termie | *policy.py | 18:16 |
| heckj | the config doesn't seem to be changing any features per se, although the policy stuff is (to me) | 18:17 |
| heckj | termie: I know you wanted to have some additional discussion around that - still your idea to work with a branch out there and discuss from there? | 18:18 |
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| termie | heckj: yeah generally, i mostly stabilized on not changing anythign right now just implementing the same admin checks with a better backend | 18:18 |
| termie | heckj: rather than trying to improve anything there | 18:19 |
| heckj | termie: agreed. How would you like to proceed to move that forward in the next couple of weeks? | 18:19 |
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| termie | heckj: i'll probably just do the work and have it sit around and then try to convince people they should merge it | 18:20 |
| termie | i think it is only a day of work, i've just been review/emailing continuously | 18:20 |
| heckj | termie: sounds good - definitely been busy | 18:20 |
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| heckj | anything else for high priority issues or bugs? | 18:22 |
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| heckj | Okay - switching over to organizational stuff for a second... | 18:23 |
| heckj | #topic blueprints and bugs | 18:23 |
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| heckj | I'm behind on catagorizing bugs, although i did get all the older ones marked with legacy. This week I'll be going through and setting some initial priorities on the bugs outstanding that are listed as "undecided" | 18:23 |
| termie | sounds awesomesauce | 18:24 |
| heckj | Same plan as before, if you disagree with a prioritization, just holler and we'll work it out | 18:24 |
| heckj | RIght now, we have intentionally overloaded "to do" items into bugs (which if I get the whole LP thing should be "blueprints")... | 18:24 |
| heckj | I've been going through the existing blueprints, and I'm about at the decision that almost nothing should be saved there - wipe them out, and start from scratch. I'd like to get something in place to discuss Domains with the HP folks and the need they're expressing. | 18:25 |
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| heckj | Is there any other blueprints that folks are really attached to? | 18:25 |
| heckj | (sorry, "are there") | 18:25 |
| heckj | grammar is going to shit too | 18:25 |
| termie | quiet meeting | 18:26 |
| ayoung | gyee is here. He owns domains | 18:26 |
| termie | we've been having a lot of domains discussion | 18:26 |
| termie | i think we're progressing on that solidly | 18:26 |
| heckj | yeah - going to represent it in a blueprint and continue that, it's going well | 18:26 |
| ayoung | So maybe keep that one for now, but it needs to be updated? | 18:26 |
| heckj | ^^ what termie said | 18:26 |
| uvirtbot` | heckj: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 18:26 |
| gyee | what's domains? | 18:27 |
| heckj | I hate you virtbot | 18:27 |
| gyee | :) | 18:27 |
| ayoung | gyee, its an Active Directory thing afaict | 18:27 |
| heckj | Okay - assume all the other blueprints are going to die in a fire shortly. | 18:27 |
| gyee | two BPs HP can help | 18:27 |
| gyee | domains and tempURL | 18:27 |
| heckj | I'll then transfer some of the bugs that are obviously "we need to do…" and shift those into blueprints and link the bugs. | 18:27 |
| heckj | (or should I just close the bugs?) | 18:28 |
| termie | i'd leave the bugs open | 18:28 |
| gyee | heckj, what about the serviceId filtering? | 18:28 |
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| termie | i don't like the domain system so much | 18:28 |
| ayoung | rbac is going away, or the Blueprint needs to be rewritten? | 18:28 |
| termie | gyee: we discussed that withyou, i think jesse talked a bunch about it | 18:28 |
| gyee | so we'll do it as core? | 18:28 |
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| heckj | gyee: I think more that we want to accomodate that need in a rewrite of the API | 18:29 |
| termie | gyee: not exactly, it isn't necessary right now because permissions are more restrictive | 18:29 |
| termie | gyee: for domains that is something we think should get into core | 18:29 |
| gyee | rbac better stays, chris kemp mentioned it RSA yesterday :) | 18:29 |
| joesavak | \o | 18:29 |
| heckj | gyee: I happen to know that guy… :-) | 18:29 |
| termie | ayoung: rbac stuff as proposed should be scrapped, but we have good stuff already in the works via nova and glance | 18:29 |
| heckj | termie: ++ | 18:30 |
| heckj | gyee: plus it matches what was described at the essex design summit | 18:30 |
| heckj | Hey joesavak - question, or just jump in? | 18:30 |
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| joesavak | jumping in - i heard "rbac is going away" and API is being re-written. | 18:31 |
| termie | lulz | 18:31 |
| gyee | what about tempURL support? | 18:31 |
| termie | gyee: i don't know what that is, i don't recall it ever being brought up before | 18:31 |
| gyee | to support swift | 18:31 |
| heckj | joesavak: the blueprint is going away, and it's being done as the policy service. We're resetting for moving into the folsom design summit discussions | 18:31 |
| termie | gyee: my guess is either it is still applicable for folsom or it is going away, but not happening for essex | 18:32 |
| gyee | yeah, for folsom | 18:32 |
| heckj | it's definitely not happening in essex, but we can absolutely discuss it for the folsom timeframe | 18:32 |
| joesavak | the nova and glance handling of RBAC is middleware only, right? No API calls support RBAC that I know of (at least not capability or fine-grained access control) | 18:32 |
| gyee | but serviceId is a must since it address a security vulnerability | 18:32 |
| heckj | gyee: which of the blueprints on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone is the tempURL thing? | 18:32 |
| termie | joesavak: yes, we're just syaing the existing blueprint should be scrapped, we have a different api we should write | 18:33 |
| heckj | gyee: I won't burn downt he "service-endpoint-location" - that's the associated blueprint for serviceID, right? | 18:33 |
| termie | gyee: the security vuln does not exist since we have less options for what you can do | 18:33 |
| joesavak | @heckj: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-timed-access | 18:33 |
| termie | gyee: so when we increase the scope of what somebody can do something like serviceId will need to happen | 18:34 |
| termie | gyee: but we aren't having the problem it tries to solve right now | 18:34 |
| gyee | heckj, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-timed-access | 18:34 |
| heckj | joesavak, gyee: thank you | 18:34 |
| gyee | service-endpoint-location is different from serviceId | 18:35 |
| termie | gyee: haven't you been in discussions and emails with jesse about this? | 18:35 |
| gyee | endpoint location is meta data | 18:35 |
| gyee | termie, without the serviceId filter, users may get leaked permission | 18:36 |
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| termie | gyee: users have no permissions | 18:36 |
| joesavak | heckj: regarding API re-write: we are still supporting core and existing extension APIs, right? It's just proposed APIs that will be rewritten in new bps (like RBAC)? | 18:36 |
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| ayoung | zns1, did https://review.openstack.org/#change,2889 survive the Keystone Light Merge? That is the only approved Blueprint in the list | 18:37 |
| gyee | termie, not sure if I understand what you mean | 18:37 |
| heckj | joesavak: we're supporting the core through the functional tests, that's how this was born. Or are you asking something else? | 18:37 |
| gyee | roles won't be returning as part of token validation? | 18:37 |
| dolphm | ayoung: no | 18:37 |
| termie | joesavak: we're just saying the api described in the blueprint for rbac is not the one we want | 18:37 |
| joesavak | termie: ok cool | 18:37 |
| joesavak | termie: any doc on the api you do want? | 18:38 |
| gyee | we need RBAC! don't make chris kemp look bad now :) | 18:38 |
| termie | gyee: they do, but there are no longer any ways for anybody but the system admin to change them | 18:38 |
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| termie | gyee: there are no permissions to leak since nobody is allowed to do anything | 18:39 |
| termie | gyee: except for the admin | 18:39 |
| termie | gyee: re rbac, we will have rbac, we are just talking about the proposed api | 18:39 |
| zns | heckj: I don't think it was ported over. AFAIK only OS-KSCATALOG and OS-KSADMIN were worked on? | 18:39 |
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| zns | heckj: The middleware had support for it too. Not sure that was moved into KSL. | 18:40 |
| termie | zns: was not moved into ksl | 18:41 |
| zns | ayoung, heckj: I intended those last two comments in response to ayoung. | 18:41 |
| gyee | termie, have you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/890411? | 18:42 |
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| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 890411 in keystone "Tenant role conflicts/overlaps can be a security issue" [Medium,Fix released] | 18:42 |
| gyee | you mean the stuff describe there are no longer applicable in KSL? | 18:42 |
| heckj | Okay - so the two blueprints that I will keep in the list are: "keystone-timed-access" and "keystone-domains". I'm assing gyee to be the drafter, with the idea that gyee will take the lead on explaining what's desired by those items. Are there any others that someone wants to raise a hand and protect from the flames? | 18:42 |
| ayoung | zns, looks like the answer is no, but the blueprint is tagged for Folsom. That blueprint should stay around. | 18:42 |
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| termie | gyee: this is what we've been discussing | 18:43 |
| gyee | keckj, these are for folsom correct? | 18:43 |
| heckj | ayoung: which one? | 18:43 |
| joesavak | heckj: when does the flame thrower ignite? Can we have until end-of-day? | 18:43 |
| gyee | s/keckj/heckj/ | 18:43 |
| termie | gyee: please take this offline if you have further questions, we've already gone over this multiple times from what i am aware of | 18:43 |
| heckj | gyee: correct - for discussion for folsom | 18:43 |
| ayoung | heckj, IDs in the Tokens | 18:43 |
| heckj | ayoung - which blueprint? | 18:43 |
| gyee | we can also do endpoint locations | 18:43 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/stop-ids-in-uris | 18:43 |
| heckj | "stop-ids-in-uris"? | 18:44 |
| heckj | sorry, I don't know what many of these mean - hence the flames. Trying to reset a bit and get it straight | 18:44 |
| heckj | ayoung: got it. It's safe, and now assigned ot you as drafter | 18:44 |
| termie | i don't think this is the proper way to talk about these blueprints, too many people trying to talk at once | 18:44 |
| heckj | It is immensely confusing. | 18:45 |
| termie | if only blueprints had some way to comment on them... | 18:45 |
| * termie hates launchpad | 18:45 | |
| heckj | I don't want to discuss them in detail, but just get a quick list of what we need to save… (yeah, agreed) | 18:45 |
| joesavak | whiteboard? | 18:45 |
| termie | whiteboards are terrible, that is not a discussion | 18:46 |
| termie | commenting is a discussion | 18:46 |
| mtaylor | I think the theory is that the meat of the thing and discussion would be on a wiki or someother thing that isn't the blueprint | 18:46 |
| mtaylor | and the blueprint is just a pointer to that | 18:46 |
| termie | mtaylor: fanboy | 18:46 |
| * mtaylor thinks it's crap too | 18:46 | |
| heckj | How about we plan to discuss them on IRC (or as a pull request in gerrit)? | 18:47 |
| termie | next week we can queue up a few and discuss one at a time | 18:47 |
| termie | </idea> | 18:47 |
| heckj | We can schedule them up and knock them down - keystone meeting is (I think) a reasonable time - | 18:47 |
| termie | aye | 18:47 |
| heckj | #action - heckj to schedule up blueprints for discussion next week | 18:47 |
| joesavak | Unassign everyone. provide a date for the flamethrower & communicate to mailing list - any that don't have an assignee on that date gets burned | 18:48 |
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| heckj | #action - heckj to bring the purifying flames to existing blueprints | 18:48 |
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| heckj | joesavak: yep, will do | 18:48 |
| termie | joesavak: i still think they need discussion, people seem to treat them as if they are all good ideas | 18:48 |
| termie | joesavak: (because they are their ideas) | 18:49 |
| joesavak | termie: at least we'll know by the assignee who wants to be the advocate | 18:49 |
| termie | sure | 18:49 |
| termie | (that makes sense) | 18:49 |
| termie | http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36cvj6/ | 18:49 |
| joesavak | it'll clear out the ones that have no adovate or owner anymore | 18:49 |
| heckj | Okay - that's good for now | 18:50 |
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| joesavak | lol | 18:50 |
| heckj | heh | 18:50 |
| heckj | #topic: Open Discussion | 18:50 |
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| joesavak | heckj for president | 18:50 |
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| heckj | oh dear god | 18:50 |
| termie | i was thinking if we get him on teh ppb then our project has two votes | 18:51 |
| termie | fighting above our weight, etc | 18:51 |
| mtaylor | you should get me on too ... my vote can be bought ;) | 18:51 |
| heckj | what's your price mtaylor? Are you a scotch man? Tequila? | 18:51 |
| mtaylor | yes | 18:52 |
| mtaylor | vodka, cachaça, tequila, scotch - you know, whatever | 18:52 |
| gyee | heckj, so the service endpoint location BP is still on the radar? | 18:52 |
| heckj | anyone seen chmouel around? | 18:52 |
| termie | mtaylor: http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/4aa1341661b211e19e4a12313813ffc0_7.jpg | 18:52 |
| termie | mtaylor: think we've got you covered | 18:52 |
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| chmouel | heckj: i'm here | 18:53 |
| termie | mtaylor: (i went shopping yesterday) | 18:53 |
| heckj | gyee: anything *can* be on the radar - all you need to do is step up to advocate for the work and explain/defend why its needed | 18:53 |
| mtaylor | termie: nice | 18:53 |
| Kiall | mtaylor: Poitín it is so.. really shouldnt have said "whatever" ;) | 18:53 |
| * mtaylor does not accept finnish black vodka... | 18:53 | |
| Kiall | Poitín is an Irish drink ;) | 18:53 |
| heckj | chmouel: you've got three blueprints in keystone - I'm going to remove you as assignee for right now. If you want them to stay and advocate those that functionality, please just reassign yourself. | 18:53 |
| termie | salmiakki | 18:53 |
| Kiall | 60-95% alcohol ;) | 18:54 |
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| heckj | chmouel: I'm trying to clear out the dead wood, so anything unassigned in a day or two is going to get nuked from the list | 18:54 |
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| chmouel | heckj: cool, i'll do that does are for folsom | 18:54 |
| chmouel | s/does/those/ | 18:54 |
| heckj | chmouel: thanks man! | 18:54 |
| gyee | heckj, I'll tell the lobbyist to get busy then :) | 18:55 |
| heckj | gyee: you're already listed as a lobbyist on two right now | 18:55 |
| heckj | :-) | 18:55 |
| ayoung | We've got 3 minutes until the next meeting barges in.... | 18:56 |
| heckj | termie: what a set! | 18:56 |
| heckj | (re: link above) | 18:56 |
| heckj | Okay - anything else? | 18:56 |
| heckj | thanks all! | 18:56 |
| termie | KEEP IT REAL | 18:56 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 18:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 18:56:51 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-18.02.html | 18:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-18.02.txt | 18:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-18.02.log.html | 18:56 |
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| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 19:01:02 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 19:01 |
| mtaylor | #topic CI Discussion | 19:01 |
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| mtaylor | hey everybody. anybody around? | 19:01 |
| LinuxJedi|cell | Me, sort of | 19:01 |
| jeblair | o/ | 19:01 |
| heckj | o/ - but I might have to run off... | 19:01 |
| heckj | Oh crap, I do have to run off. Nevermind | 19:02 |
| mtaylor | heckj: anything you need/want from us before you go? | 19:02 |
| mtaylor | guess not | 19:04 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: you had a couple of things you thought we should bring up today, yeah? | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | yeah, people keep asking about stackforge | 19:04 |
| mtaylor | good call. | 19:05 |
| LinuxJedi|cell | ++ | 19:05 |
| mtaylor | #topic stackforge | 19:05 |
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| mtaylor | if anybody has been lurking, we've (and by we, I mean LinuxJedi|cell) been working on spinning up a second copy of the OpenStack Infrastructure | 19:05 |
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| mtaylor | the intent is for it to be a place for satellite projects or other things openstack related but which have no intent or hope of become core to go should they wish | 19:06 |
| soren | Is the intent to let people run it themselves or will "we" run it? | 19:08 |
| soren | For whatever value of "we" makes sense. | 19:08 |
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| mtaylor | well, both | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | we're also working on getting more and more stuff in to puppet | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | so that, other than having root on the machine to diagnose odd failures, most of "running it" should be doable through code reviews | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | (same will apply to the official openstack one as well) | 19:10 |
| mtaylor | and actually - the goal is for both systems to work from the same set of puppet modules, so that work done on one applies to both | 19:11 |
| soren | Ok, cool. | 19:11 |
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| mtaylor | we've been batting around ideas as well for how to manage the actual jenkins job content via puppet too, so that we can get out of the business of manually editing jobs in web forms and then forgetting some of them | 19:11 |
| mtaylor | that'll be WAY easier to do sensibly if we can get folks to buy in to http://wiki.openstack.org/ProjectTestingInterface | 19:12 |
| mtaylor | since then we can have a set of vetted job description templates that apply to $PROJECT ... and then a list of projects - you know - modularization and code reuse! | 19:13 |
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| mtaylor | ok. I think that's the gist of that... | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | jeblair: you wanna say anything about gerrit trigger? | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | ya | 19:14 |
| mtaylor | #topic gerrit trigger plugin | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | so i upgraded jenkins and all the modules on jenkins.o.o last night | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | and when i went to install the new version of the gerrit trigger plugin, jenkins wasn't happy with it and wouldn't load it | 19:15 |
| jeblair | so i rolled that part back, the rest of the upgrade is still in place | 19:15 |
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| mtaylor | k | 19:16 |
| jeblair | today i'm setting up jenkins-dev.openstack.org so we can have a machine that's much closer to production to test out upgrades on | 19:16 |
| mtaylor | any idea what wasn't happy? or do you need the new jenkins dev server to fully figure that out? | 19:16 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 19:16 |
| jeblair | (side effect: better puppet modules) | 19:16 |
| jeblair | yep. because of course i ran this module on a simple jenkins test server many times without seeing that error | 19:16 |
| jeblair | so it could be something triggered by a different version of jenkins or another plugin | 19:17 |
| jeblair | or something about upgrading the module | 19:17 |
| jeblair | so i'll work on replicating and fixing that | 19:17 |
| jeblair | but once that's done, we should have a gerrit trigger plugin that behaves a little more correctly | 19:17 |
| mtaylor | w00t! | 19:18 |
| jeblair | i've been working on upstreaming our changes | 19:18 |
| jeblair | and that code review process has pointed out some things we could be doing better | 19:18 |
| jeblair | so the new version should avoid some race conditions we have now | 19:18 |
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| jeblair | and i'm also adding a ref-updated trigger, so that we can run post-merge jobs triggered directly from gerrit | 19:19 |
| jeblair | and finally, we have a job in jenkins that builds the plugin .hpi file we're going to use | 19:19 |
| jeblair | (looking for link) | 19:19 |
| jeblair | #link https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/gerrit-trigger-plugin-package/ | 19:20 |
| jeblair | so once we get this working, we can point people right at the build we're using | 19:20 |
| jeblair | i think that's about it | 19:20 |
| mtaylor | awesome | 19:20 |
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| mtaylor | mildly related thought to the two previous things - but LinuxJedi|cell has installed gerrit 2.2.2 on stackforge, which lets us run innodb | 19:21 |
| mtaylor | once that's been tested there, we can roll that out to openstack, and then have a similar job with artifacts for gerrit as well | 19:21 |
| * mtaylor is happy about the idea of that | 19:22 | |
| LinuxJedi|cell | Me too :) | 19:22 |
| jeblair | yeah, we should also remember to move gerrit to a new server | 19:22 |
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| mtaylor | ++ | 19:24 |
| LinuxJedi|cell | I'll work on improving the puppet gerrit modules for that at some point | 19:25 |
| mtaylor | sweet | 19:26 |
| mtaylor | #topic open discussion | 19:26 |
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| mtaylor | anybody else? | 19:26 |
| * soren has nothing useful to say | 19:27 | |
| LinuxJedi | meetbot is nearly done but on hold | 19:27 |
| mtaylor | awesome | 19:27 |
| * LinuxJedi (back home now) | 19:27 | |
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| anotherjesse | bcwaldon: hello | 19:31 |
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| mtaylor | hey! it's anotherjesse! | 19:32 |
| anotherjesse | hi mr taylor | 19:32 |
| LinuxJedi | is there a first jesse? | 19:32 |
| anotherjesse | LinuxJedi: yes, but he is a bit of punk | 19:33 |
| LinuxJedi | lol :) | 19:33 |
| mtaylor | unless anotherjesse has anything for us, I think we're done with this meeting | 19:33 |
| mtaylor | (anybody have any food? I'm hungry!) | 19:33 |
| * LinuxJedi has birthday cake | 19:33 | |
| LinuxJedi | lots of little ones with edible lego bricks on | 19:33 |
| * LinuxJedi give mtaylor a cake | 19:34 | |
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| mtaylor | mmm. tasty | 19:34 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 19:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 19:34:27 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-19.01.html | 19:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-19.01.txt | 19:34 |
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| pvo | o/ | 19:58 |
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| notmyname | hi | 20:01 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 20:01 |
| anotherjesse | o\ | 20:01 |
| devcamcar_ | howdy | 20:01 |
| jmckenty | yo yo | 20:02 |
| jmckenty | we doin this? | 20:03 |
| pvo | was there an agenda? | 20:03 |
| pvo | yea, a few people wanted to talk | 20:04 |
| mtaylor | o/' | 20:04 |
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| zns | ziad here. | 20:05 |
| vijayendra | Vijay here | 20:05 |
| ttx | o/ | 20:05 |
| jmckenty | No jbryce, ttx do you want to chair? | 20:06 |
| ttx | jmckenty: not really. One meeting per night is plenty enough :) | 20:06 |
| ttx | go for it | 20:06 |
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| vishy | o/ | 20:07 |
| jmckenty | I count jaypipes and notmyname and devcamcar so I think we've got quorum | 20:07 |
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| jmckenty | #startmeeting | 20:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 20:07:23 2012 UTC. The chair is jmckenty. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 20:07 |
| devcamcar_ | yep | 20:07 |
| jmckenty | #topic GlobalBugSquash Day | 20:07 |
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| jmckenty | That was the topic, right? | 20:08 |
| vijayendra | yes | 20:08 |
| notmyname | from ewan "Is this something that the PPB could / should co-ordinate? " | 20:08 |
| jmckenty | Is lauren ever on IRC? | 20:09 |
| pvo | I feel this is almost project specific | 20:09 |
| devcamcar_ | yea not sure what ppb has to do with it? | 20:09 |
| ttx | The people organizing it should coordinate it. Not sure what we can bring in | 20:09 |
| jmckenty | Fair enough. | 20:09 |
| ttx | except saying "You shalt use a wiki page" | 20:09 |
| jmckenty | I'll make sure Lloyd updates things on that wiki page | 20:10 |
| jmckenty | Anyone else on that topic? | 20:10 |
| ttx | We can definitely spread the word, personally. | 20:10 |
| notmyname | is it a "pre-inherited" function of the ppb since the foundation says it's going to be responsible for promoting projects? | 20:10 |
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| jmckenty | Well, the best promotion mechanisms we have are | 20:11 |
| jmckenty | the meetup sites, the openstack blog | 20:11 |
| jmckenty | and maybe the planet? | 20:11 |
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| jmckenty | who's got the knobs on the @openstack account - stefano? | 20:11 |
| ttx | is there a link to the event somewhere we could tweet about ? | 20:11 |
| jmckenty | Just tweet the meetup link | 20:12 |
| jmckenty | http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/52682572/ | 20:12 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: ++ | 20:12 |
| jmckenty | or http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/52682022/ | 20:12 |
| jmckenty | notmyname: okay, so the PPB can direct Stefano to write something on the blog and tweet it? | 20:13 |
| * jmckenty thinks that notmyname just volunteered to write something | 20:13 | |
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| jk0 | sorry I'm late, out sick today | 20:13 |
| jmckenty | #link http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/52682022/ | 20:13 |
| ttx | notmyname: the foundation says the PPB/TC will be responsible for promoting projects and promoting events ? | 20:13 |
| jmckenty | #link http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/52682572/ | 20:13 |
| notmyname | I'm just asking :-) we could do anything from announcing it to actually corrdinating it | 20:13 |
| * mtaylor likes voting to make Stefano do things - likes voting to make notmyname do things even more | 20:13 | |
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| ttx | My understanding is taht the foundation will be, not the PPB2/TC | 20:14 |
| jmckenty | #idea notmyname to direct Stefano to blog and tweet about GlobalHackDay | 20:14 |
| ttx | reed: ^ | 20:14 |
| ttx | reed==Stefano | 20:14 |
| jmckenty | ah, thanks | 20:14 |
| reed | jmckenty, Lloyd has an account there too | 20:15 |
| jmckenty | Handy | 20:15 |
| notmyname | reed: can you write something about a global hack day? if you have questions, ask jmckenty | 20:15 |
| notmyname | jmckenty: done :-) | 20:15 |
| jmckenty | :) | 20:15 |
| jmckenty | next topic? | 20:15 |
| vijayendra | #link http://www.meetup.com/openstack/events/52682572/ | 20:15 |
| jmckenty | ProjectTestingInterface | 20:15 |
| jmckenty | #topic http://wiki.openstack.org/ProjectTestingInterface | 20:15 |
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| jmckenty | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ProjectTestingInterface | 20:15 |
| reed | #info anybody can request an account on the blog and post there | 20:16 |
| jmckenty | mtaylor: you want to walk us through this? | 20:16 |
| mtaylor | main thing here is, I've been doing things to get our explosive number of projects aligned on some basic things so that we can template all of that in jenkins better | 20:16 |
| mtaylor | and mainly just wanted to put the overall plan in front of folks so that they could hit it with sticks | 20:16 |
| mtaylor | it breaks down like this: | 20:17 |
| mtaylor | we want to, on every project, do a set of things: run tests, check pep8, generate testing coverage, generate source tarballs, generate docs and import translation strings | 20:17 |
| mtaylor | we don't do all of those things on all of the projects yet, translations being the big one where infrastructure was way behind | 20:18 |
| mtaylor | the patches I've been pushing have been making sure that for each of those things we want done, the command line interface for it in a clean repo is the same | 20:18 |
| jmckenty | mtaylor: would this be a decent place to also deal with .mailmap ? | 20:19 |
| mtaylor | yes. I think so | 20:19 |
| jmckenty | e.g., since we're testing for Authors file validity, I'd like to be able to resolve multiple email addresses | 20:19 |
| mtaylor | I've got some text down further on the page which talks about Authors and Changelog files ... I should highlight that a bit more I think | 20:19 |
| jmckenty | yeah | 20:19 |
| zns | mtaylor: Do you have a template project that can be used as a reference for existing projects or starting point for new projects? | 20:19 |
| jmckenty | Does babel have lazy consensus? | 20:20 |
| jmckenty | e.g., is that in use across a few of these projects already? | 20:20 |
| jmckenty | or just nova | 20:20 |
| mtaylor | zns: almost | 20:20 |
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| mtaylor | jmckenty: swift also had babel support in tree | 20:20 |
| jmckenty | ah, cool | 20:20 |
| mtaylor | and I just sent glance a patch to start using it | 20:20 |
| * notmyname would like to change some of the overloaded uses for the authors file, but that's probably not a discussion for this meeting | 20:21 | |
| mtaylor | also, even more exciting, I think with the new babel code we might actually start installing and consuming our translated messages (this was not actually happening before) | 20:21 |
| jmckenty | So is there any explicit relationship between this proposal and devstack? | 20:21 |
| mtaylor | not really - although once we get it in, it might make some of the devstack tasks easier? not sure | 20:22 |
| jmckenty | I'd also like to see a fix to capitalization of Authors files | 20:22 |
| jmckenty | AUTHORS vs authors vs Authors | 20:22 |
| anotherjesse | mtaylor: ya, devstack replicates some stuff in projects because each one was doing stuff different | 20:22 |
| jk0 | jmckenty: +1 | 20:22 |
| mtaylor | if there are ways in which project consistency like this would help devstack, I'd be happy to put those on my todo list | 20:22 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: +1 | 20:23 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 20:23 |
| mtaylor | shall we do Authors ? | 20:23 |
| jaypipes | low priority, but yes IMHO | 20:23 |
| devcamcar_ | AUTHORS | 20:23 |
| notmyname | AUTHORS | 20:23 |
| jmckenty | devcamcar: ++ | 20:23 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 20:23 |
| devcamcar_ | match readme and other supplemental files | 20:23 |
| pvo | ++ | 20:23 |
| jmckenty | LICENSE as well, yes? | 20:24 |
| notmyname | but my concerns are bigger than what it's called :-) | 20:24 |
| devcamcar_ | yep | 20:24 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: well yes. but capitalizing it is a start :) | 20:24 |
| devcamcar_ | yea needs housekeeping | 20:24 |
| jmckenty | So any strong objections to mtaylor 's proposal? | 20:25 |
| jmckenty | vishy: did you have a look around for babel alternatives? I just don't want to have to argue it later | 20:25 |
| anotherjesse | we've had a lot of progress with common config with people just proposing stuff | 20:25 |
| anotherjesse | as in merge proposals | 20:25 |
| zns | I love how the tools folder just automagically gets updated in sync with other projects. I wouldn't mind more scaffolding like that to meet this goal... | 20:25 |
| anotherjesse | so - mtaylor I proposing the projects things like authors will actually get things done :) | 20:26 |
| mtaylor | yup. it's on my todo list now | 20:26 |
| jmckenty | Does this need a vote? I think it rocks. | 20:26 |
| heckj | mtaylor: do you have a link for babel? Not familiar with it... | 20:26 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: the only other thing I found for babel that had setuptools integration was distutilsextra, which broke other things | 20:27 |
| mtaylor | heckj: http://babel.edgewall.org/ | 20:27 |
| mtaylor | #link http://babel.edgewall.org/ | 20:27 |
| jmckenty | anyone for voting?... | 20:27 |
| mtaylor | lemme say q quick word about babel ... | 20:27 |
| heckj | mtaylor: thanks! | 20:27 |
| mtaylor | just so there isn't confusion | 20:27 |
| mtaylor | it's essentially just for manageing the translation strings and merging - it's still built on top of gettext | 20:27 |
| ttx | (and LP Translations) | 20:28 |
| mtaylor | and the translations themselves are still sent to launchpad and imported from (although I do have jenkins jobs now to do that bit) | 20:28 |
| mtaylor | so, for the most part, almost no-one should really ever have to know much about it, unless something goes horribly wrong :) | 20:28 |
| jmckenty | So there's no additional steps for localizers? | 20:28 |
| mtaylor | I'm also copying the way we're using it from Sphinx, who use it for their in-code translations | 20:28 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: shouldn't be | 20:29 |
| jmckenty | cool. | 20:29 |
| jmckenty | Last call for additional comments about ProjectTestingInterface? | 20:29 |
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| jmckenty | ... | 20:29 |
| jmckenty | #topic Satellite CI Environment | 20:29 |
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| mtaylor | I'm verbose today | 20:30 |
| jmckenty | rock it | 20:30 |
| jaypipes | $> monty-talk -vvv | 20:30 |
| mtaylor | quick story here is - we're spinning up a second copy of the OpenStack CI infrastructure that we'd like to offer to satellite projects should they wish to use it | 20:30 |
| devcamcar_ | awesome | 20:31 |
| jmckenty | Define a satellite project? | 20:31 |
| mtaylor | essentially a place for folks to stick anything openstack related should they wish to follow a similar process to openstack | 20:31 |
| jmckenty | clients? | 20:31 |
| jmckenty | PaaS projects? | 20:31 |
| ttx | mtaylor: would anything half-official move from the current Ci setup to that satellite setup ? | 20:31 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: anything that wouldn't be a core or incubation candidate | 20:31 |
| jaypipes | Toaster as a Service. | 20:31 |
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| mtaylor | ttx: I think once it's baked, we should probably consider that, yes | 20:31 |
| jmckenty | mtaylor: that seems like the main reason to do it | 20:31 |
| jmckenty | How much gear do you have? | 20:31 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: I've got a whole free cloud :) | 20:32 |
| jmckenty | Will we need a merit-based application process? | 20:32 |
| jmckenty | nice! | 20:32 |
| jmckenty | Seems like a darn good idea. | 20:32 |
| mtaylor | actually- one of the goals is that adding a project to the system can be done via submitting a merge request to gerrit | 20:32 |
| jmckenty | Timeline? | 20:32 |
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| mtaylor | system should be up and going in the next couple of days | 20:32 |
| mtaylor | gerrit-based new projects may take a few more weeks (we'll have to write some more puppet magic) | 20:33 |
| jmckenty | awesome | 20:33 |
| jmckenty | notmyname: can get reed to write up something | 20:33 |
| mtaylor | and I think reddwarf is going to hop on board | 20:33 |
| ttx | mtaylor: did anyone work on a project directory / forge setup like was discussed at the Essex design summit ? | 20:33 |
| mtaylor | ttx: not to my knowledge | 20:33 |
| reed | ttx, it's a long story | 20:33 |
| jmckenty | I've gotta drop offline (arg) | 20:33 |
| jmckenty | mtaylor: this rocks, anything to decide? | 20:34 |
| ttx | jmckenty: don't forget to #endmeeting at some point | 20:34 |
| ttx | (only you can) | 20:34 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: basically, I've got some legal folks who would like the ppb to say they think its neat | 20:34 |
| mrmartin | ttx: i plan to work on a project dir | 20:34 |
| mtaylor | jmckenty: so if people don't mind voting to let me donate some stuff, that would be swell | 20:34 |
| reed | ttx, I did, jay did too and Chris Bohannon too... no visible results though | 20:34 |
| reed | mrmartin, great, please keep me in the loop | 20:35 |
| ttx | I think we need to nail the reputation / catalog thing before we open the satellite gerrit too wide | 20:35 |
| mtaylor | mrmartin, reed, ttx: I'll also ask and see if I can get some resources allocated to that | 20:35 |
| mtaylor | ttx: the catalog part | 20:35 |
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| ttx | jmckenty: still around ? | 20:37 |
| jmckenty | yup | 20:37 |
| pvo | gotta end the meeting, if we're done | 20:38 |
| notmyname | do we need to "officiall" help mtaylor? | 20:38 |
| jmckenty | #endmeeting | 20:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 20:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 20:38:30 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.07.html | 20:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.07.txt | 20:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.07.log.html | 20:38 |
| notmyname | or not | 20:38 |
| mtaylor | I think that was jmckenty needing to split | 20:39 |
| ttx | mtaylor: restart it if you want more | 20:39 |
| mtaylor | #startmeeting | 20:39 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 20:39:24 2012 UTC. The chair is mtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:39 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 20:39 |
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| mtaylor | quick vote of confidence for providing stackforge.org as a place to shove satellite projects? | 20:39 |
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| anotherjesse | mtaylor: just to clarify - there will be a catalog/directory (with comments/rating/...) eventually — and a set of tools (like gerrit/jenkins/...) | 20:40 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: I like the concept a lot, also wondered if we should offer a similar sandbox/trial for doc tools. We sort of do. | 20:41 |
| anotherjesse | mtaylor: satellite projects will be able to use one *OR* the other | 20:41 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: right now I'm just focused on the set of tools - but I do think that a catalog/ratings would be a great next step | 20:41 |
| mtaylor | anotherjesse: and yes - one or the other | 20:41 |
| anotherjesse | mtaylor: the reason I'm asking is that I don't want people to think they *HAVE* to use the tools in order to be "satellite" | 20:41 |
| mtaylor | I don't want to make gerrit/jenkins/project conformance a prereq | 20:41 |
| anotherjesse | right | 20:41 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 20:41 |
| anotherjesse | k | 20:41 |
| anotherjesse | having it available is ++ | 20:42 |
| anotherjesse | and having a catalog of things to put on your openstack iaas cluster is ++ | 20:42 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: ++ | 20:42 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: we should chat about that and about what it would look like | 20:42 |
| zns | mtaylor: sounds like running CI on that could end up being more complex than CI for core/incubated projects; more of them. Are you not concerned that would be a distraction? | 20:42 |
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| ttx | +0, hoping it doesn't divert too much attention from core CI | 20:42 |
| mtaylor | zns: I'm going to be more restrictive with what is allowed as far as that goes | 20:42 |
| mtaylor | zns: essentially - if you want to be there, you HAVE to conform 100% to the interface, and you will get no customized jobs special for your project | 20:43 |
| zns | mtaylor: what will that mean for satellite projects? What kind of restrictions? | 20:43 |
| notmyname | so is there an implied limitation to how big the ecosystem can be? mtaylor and team can only handle so much | 20:43 |
| mtaylor | you'll get the set of standard tests that everything else gets | 20:43 |
| zns | No gates then across projects? Just gates with core? | 20:43 |
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| mtaylor | zns: no special gates intra-project, correct - only gate with themselves and with them and latest core | 20:44 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: my goal is that we use this as a way to force ourselves to make core CI more repeatable, and that we can loop more contributors in to working on stuff (wikipedia did a great job with that) | 20:45 |
| mtaylor | notmyname: but I'm also hiring more folks ... :) | 20:45 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: yes, but wikipedia want to encourage contributions to the core. we do too, but I'd like to see more ecosystem contributions than core contributions | 20:45 |
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| mtaylor | notmyname: indeed- but I meant they did a good job of getting the admin of their systems done enough via puppet that more random folks could help out with running the services (without giving out root access willy-nilly) | 20:47 |
| mtaylor | I'd like to see that more with us, so that jeblair and I are less special | 20:47 |
| ttx | mtaylor: you will always be special. | 20:47 |
| * mtaylor blushes | 20:47 | |
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| notmyname | I think providing tools for an ecosystem to use is great | 20:47 |
| notmyname | I hope it doesn't imply some sort of requirements to be part of the ecosystem, but we can address that when/if it happens | 20:48 |
| ttx | I'm all for it, but with the provision that core projects have priority when hell freezes | 20:48 |
| zns | ++ | 20:48 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 20:48 |
| notmyname | ttx: actually, wouldn't that be up to HP since they are providing the people and computers? | 20:48 |
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| ttx | notmyname: it's up to the CI team, which is cross-company | 20:49 |
| mtaylor | well, they'd have to figure out how to force me to pick one set of priorities over another :) | 20:49 |
| ttx | the fact that HP actively invests in it doesn't mean it's "Hp property" | 20:49 |
| mtaylor | agree | 20:49 |
| ttx | so at least at the CI team level, it should be clear that core is their priority | 20:50 |
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| ttx | even if the mileage may vary when it comes to direct orders to people | 20:51 |
| ttx | i.e. HP could provide CI resources that would only work on Satellite. | 20:51 |
| mtaylor | HP _is_ going to provide CI resources that would only work on Satallite, actually | 20:52 |
| mtaylor | although I'm going to try to arrange things so that we can make use of them for core as well :) | 20:52 |
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| ttx | mtaylor: you need a formal vote or you're happy with that ? | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | I'm happy with that - although I may need to come back next week and ask for a formal vote | 20:54 |
| mtaylor | so if people don't _mind_ voting, that would be neat | 20:54 |
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| ttx | next week, or now ? | 20:55 |
| mtaylor | either one. | 20:55 |
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| * ttx is confused :) | 20:55 | |
| ttx | +1 if it's clear that it's CI team prio 2 | 20:55 |
| mtaylor | I think we may be at the end of the hour though ... let's let this be good for this week | 20:55 |
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| mtaylor | thanks everybody! | 20:56 |
| mtaylor | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 20:56:34 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.39.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.39.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-20.39.log.html | 20:56 |
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| ttx | zns, notmyname, jaypipes, vishy, devcamcar: still around ? | 21:00 |
| notmyname | still here | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | ttx: o/ | 21:01 |
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| ttx | waiting a bit | 21:01 |
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| ohnoimdead | <- standing in for devcamcar | 21:02 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | heckj: around ? | 21:02 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | ok then | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 21:02:55 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:02 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:03 |
| ttx | #info Today is the last day before we cut the milestone-proposed branches for E4 | 21:03 |
| ttx | So the last day for E4 late features. | 21:03 |
| zns | ziad here | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #info Targeted bugfixes can still go in once the branch has been cut (until Thursday) | 21:03 |
| ttx | Just land them in master and backport them to milestone-proposed | 21:03 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:03 | |
| ttx | * heckj to create BPs corresponding to major feature gaps | 21:03 |
| ttx | I saw generate-ec2-access-secret (completed) | 21:04 |
| ttx | Was that the only known feature gap ? Are we done ? | 21:04 |
| ttx | zns/heckj: ^ | 21:04 |
| heckj | ttx: I've just sent out an email to the openstack list re: resetting blueprints for keystone | 21:04 |
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| ttx | not received yet. Business Summary ? | 21:05 |
| ttx | heckj: ? | 21:06 |
| ttx | Hmm, let's go back to that when he's back | 21:07 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:07 | |
| ttx | zns: o/ | 21:07 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:07 |
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| ttx | We just mentioned the blueprints, they look all completed | 21:07 |
| ttx | zns: any last minute thing expected ? | 21:07 |
| ttx | Or are we all set to cut the E4 milestone-proposed branch early tomorrow ? | 21:08 |
| ttx | did we lose all the keystone crew ? | 21:09 |
| dolphm | everything that needed to go in, is in; there are several more in merge prop that are like-to-haves | 21:09 |
| dolphm | ... which should also go in | 21:09 |
| anotherjesse | ttx/dolphm: we've been working on an issue jay brought up, but I think it is a simple bug and configuration in devstack | 21:09 |
| ttx | in all cases we should be good to cut at the end of the day... please yell if that's not ok | 21:10 |
| ttx | No more targeted bugs... | 21:10 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: I know we will need a few RCs | 21:10 |
| anotherjesse | given that people are just now really pushing the deploys | 21:10 |
| ttx | Does that accurately represent what needs to be fixed before E4 can get out ? | 21:10 |
| ttx | I guess I should switch to another project until zns or heckj rejoins | 21:11 |
| anotherjesse | a few HIGHs are like to haves - like https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/928065 | 21:11 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 928065 in keystone "implement SQL+LDAP backend for Identity" [High,Confirmed] | 21:11 |
| anotherjesse | that never existed in keystone legacy | 21:11 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: that's definitely a feature... so it would be good to not do it post-E4 | 21:12 |
| ttx | which means... in the next hours | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: yeppes | 21:12 |
| anotherjesse | ttx: delayed to folsom | 21:12 |
| * ttx goes to Swift and will be back on Keystone | 21:12 | |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:12 |
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| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:12 |
| notmyname | howdy | 21:12 |
| ttx | notmyname: 1.4.7 was tentatively scheduled to March 22 -- keep me posted when/if we need to adjust | 21:13 |
| notmyname | will do | 21:13 |
| ttx | notmyname: Anything on your mind ? Looks like you're the next Swift PTL :) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | we've got some merge proposals to get done | 21:13 |
| notmyname | several are waiting for a for a final approval | 21:13 |
| notmyname | pontificating on PTL stuff, the biggest challenge to swift right now is getting more contributors and building the ecosystem | 21:14 |
| ttx | Indeed. Questions on Swift ? | 21:15 |
| anotherjesse | same as last week - notmyname can you get someone to review the cli auth review? | 21:15 |
| anotherjesse | we have lots of hack in place to special case testing of swift until that lands | 21:15 |
| notmyname | anotherjesse: ya, that's one that needs a final approval | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | we've been fighting some fires around here and havent' had as much time for new code reviews | 21:16 |
| ttx | Ouch. | 21:16 |
| notmyname | anotherjesse: do you need it before essex? or is that your deadline? | 21:16 |
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| anotherjesse | notmyname: given that we are testing trunk every day, it costs us time each day to special case swift | 21:17 |
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| anotherjesse | you've already +2'd - if gholt or someone else could spend 20 minutes to review it would save us so much time | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I'll do what I can to get it landed sooner | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | anotherjesse: I think one of the concerns is the difficulty testing it since none of use use keystone very often | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | so we can look at the code, but can't actually run it | 21:18 |
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| soren | ttx: Welcome back. | 21:18 |
| jpipes | herro? | 21:18 |
| soren | Or? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | without a lot more than 20 minutes of work | 21:18 |
| ttx | soren: I never left. | 21:18 |
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| anotherjesse | notmyname: it is compatible with rax global auth | 21:18 |
| ttx | and the bot was on my side of the split :) | 21:18 |
| heckj | YEAH! back | 21:19 |
| ayoung | notmyname, we just had massive IRC failure and missed the start of your statement | 21:19 |
| soren | ttx: I have a bunch of people here who'd say otherwise. | 21:19 |
| anotherjesse | notmyname: and you can have a complete working setup with devstack | 21:19 |
| anotherjesse | netsplit | 21:19 |
| ohnoimdead | hooray! | 21:19 |
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| ttx | ok, let's get back to our regular program | 21:19 |
| zns | ttx: a bunch of us were zapped into an alternate IRC universe. We're back now. | 21:19 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:19 |
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| heckj | we're in feature freeze, focusing on bugs, docs, and making integration seamless | 21:20 |
| notmyname | anotherjesse: I'll bug them about it again, though | 21:20 |
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| ttx | zns/heckj: blueprints -- all completed, does that mean the feature gap is covered ? | 21:20 |
| heckj | I've set "assigned" to empty on all existing keystone blueprints - sent a note to maillist asking if you want to advocate for something in keystone, "assign it" to yourself... | 21:20 |
| zns | Copying heckj's response to ttx on blueprints for keystone: | 21:21 |
| zns | Gist is - I've cleared "assigned" from all blueprints in keystone. If you want to advocate for a BP, assign it to yourself. Anything unassigned by end of day wednesday will be nuked and we'll start clean. Once that's done, I'll take bugs that should have been blueprints and move them in. | 21:21 |
| heckj | Anything unassigned end of wednesday will be burned in purifying flames. | 21:21 |
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| heckj | zns: thank you | 21:21 |
| ttx | zns/heckj: bugs -- no more targeted bugs, Does that accurately represent what needs to be fixed before E4 can get out ? | 21:21 |
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| ttx | Are we all set to cut the E4 milestone-proposed branch early tomorrow ? | 21:21 |
| heckj | ttx: we've one we're still working with jaypipes, dprince, anotherjesse - but we think it's covered. We think we're in good shape | 21:21 |
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| ttx | heckj: ok, don't forget to target to E4 all bugs that need to be fixed before i'm allowed to release E4 | 21:22 |
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| heckj | ttx: ack | 21:22 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:22 |
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| jpipes | wheee | 21:22 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:22 |
| ttx | All set featurewise -- can we cut milestone-proposed early tomorrow morning ? | 21:22 |
| jpipes | ttx: I'd really like to get this one in: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4350 | 21:23 |
| jpipes | ttx: but we're having some odd issues with the devstack-vm builder when glance triggers it... | 21:23 |
| ttx | jpipes: hmm | 21:24 |
| ttx | Looks like a bugfix ? So can be backported to milestone-proposed if not completed by eod ? | 21:24 |
| jpipes | sure, yes | 21:24 |
| ttx | Looking at the E4 bugs... | 21:25 |
| ttx | Looks like a large list, including incomplete bugs... | 21:25 |
| ttx | Could you reduce the list to things that should block E4 delivery ? | 21:25 |
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| ttx | jpipes: and we'll move the rest to a RC1 milestone | 21:25 |
| jpipes | ttx: yep, no problem will do as soon as the RC milestone is created. | 21:25 |
| ttx | #action ttx to create RC1 milestones | 21:26 |
| heckj | ttx: when do you expect to have RC1 milestone created? | 21:26 |
| ttx | I'll create them at the end of the meeting | 21:26 |
| ttx | (the placeholders in Launchpad, that is) | 21:26 |
| jpipes | cool, ty | 21:27 |
| ttx | heckj: the idea is to generate the RC when the targeted buglist is empty | 21:27 |
| ttx | jpipes: Anything else ? | 21:27 |
| heckj | ttx: mkay - thanks | 21:27 |
| ttx | heckj: will cc you on the discussion I'm having with E4 PTLs. | 21:27 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 21:28 |
| jpipes | ttx: I'd just like to call out eglynn for some great work over the last couple weeks. well done. Same for Stuart McLaren, but he's never on IRC :) | 21:28 |
| jpipes | also like to thank anotherjesse, termie, heckj, and dprince for their help today and dtroyer for rockin the devstack. :) | 21:28 |
| ttx | cool. Positive vibes | 21:29 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:29 |
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| * jpipes feeling in a thank you mood after Oscars this past Sunday. | 21:29 | |
| ttx | vishy: survived the split ? | 21:29 |
| vishy | yes | 21:29 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:29 |
| ttx | I marked zeromq-rpc-driver deferred, based on last week discussion | 21:29 |
| vishy | yes | 21:29 |
| ttx | Same for netapp-volume-driver, but it was set back to NeedsReview | 21:29 |
| ttx | vishy: What's the situation there ? Both should be deferred and the corresponding reviews blocked ? | 21:29 |
| vishy | i think deferred is the only way to go | 21:29 |
| ttx | I agree too. | 21:30 |
| vishy | I wanted them to get in but I think it is just too late | 21:30 |
| ttx | we need to make sure it's clear on those reviews. | 21:30 |
| vishy | I need help on targetting bugs | 21:30 |
| ttx | vishy: OK to cut E4 milestone-proposed early tomorrow morning ? | 21:30 |
| vishy | ttx: there are a few bugs that are critical | 21:30 |
| ttx | Let's review them now | 21:30 |
| vishy | but they are rc critical, not necessarily e4 critical | 21:30 |
| ttx | There are a number of things that are obviously not worked on... and therefore should be un-E4-targeted | 21:31 |
| ttx | Not worked on: 914484 (feature parity team), 925665 (Aaron Lee) | 21:31 |
| ttx | bug 914484 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 914484 in nova "Boot from ISO is different in XS/KVM" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914484 | 21:31 |
| ttx | bug 925665 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 925665 in nova "virtual_interfaces in nova aren't torn down when under load" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925665 | 21:31 |
| vishy | yes untarget is fine n the first | 21:31 |
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| ttx | Unassigned: bug 897075 (anotherjesse/bcwaldon) bug 814469 (bcwaldon) bug 928521 (bcwaldon) | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 897075 in nova "volume int is id not uuid" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897075 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 814469 in nova "OSAPI reports ACTIVE when server built from bad image" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814469 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 928521 in nova "If no hosts found during resize, scheduler will leave instance stuck in RESIZE" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928521 | 21:32 |
| vishy | i don't know about the second | 21:32 |
| vishy | pvo: ping on https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/925665 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 925665 in nova "virtual_interfaces in nova aren't torn down when under load" [High,Confirmed] | 21:32 |
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| ttx | dunno about bug 936813 and bug 934464 | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 936813 in nova "GET on os-networks/<uuid> fails with quantum" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936813 | 21:32 |
| vishy | the resize one somenone is working on (littleidea) | 21:32 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 934464 in nova "New instance imagecache doesn't work with keystone: get_admin_context() doesn't set a valid token/strategy" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934464 | 21:32 |
| * littleidea waves | 21:33 | |
| vishy | i thought that one was fixed | 21:33 |
| vishy | the uuid one we can untarget | 21:33 |
| vishy | the wishlist we can untarget | 21:33 |
| ttx | I'm doing it | 21:33 |
| vishy | yeah those last two i don't know about | 21:34 |
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| vishy | mikal: bug 934464 ? was that fixed? | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 934464 in nova "New instance imagecache doesn't work with keystone: get_admin_context() doesn't set a valid token/strategy" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934464 | 21:35 |
| ttx | There is also a number of critical issues that might make sense being targeted (or have their importance reset): | 21:35 |
| ttx | Bug 939060 (tr3buchet) | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 939060 in nova "live migrations do not update dnsmasq entries or setup networking on destination node when using multi_host" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939060 | 21:35 |
| ttx | Bug 942156 (0x44) | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942156 in nova "floating-ip-delete disassociates and doesn't de-allocate when ip is associated." [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942156 | 21:35 |
| vishy | danwent: any idea on bug 936813 | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 936813 in nova "GET on os-networks/<uuid> fails with quantum" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936813 | 21:35 |
| danwent | vishy: will look… | 21:35 |
| ttx | vishy: ok to add those 2 to the E4 list ? | 21:36 |
| tr3buchet | ttx: i've got a merge prop for 939060, vishy is managing the testing of it | 21:36 |
| vishy | yeah i added that critical one | 21:36 |
| ttx | ok, both were added | 21:37 |
| vishy | ttx: ahead of you, targetted both of those a few minutes ago | 21:37 |
| vishy | :) | 21:37 |
| ttx | Anything else that should be fixed before E4 hits ? | 21:37 |
| ttx | I suggest the following ones: | 21:37 |
| ttx | Bug 942443 (comstud) | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942443 in nova "raise in API when there's no instance_info_cache entry for an instance" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942443 | 21:37 |
| danwent | vishy: never seen 936813 before, but oddly enough, we are working on a patch that shoudl fix it for another reason. | 21:37 |
| ttx | arh. Fixed. | 21:37 |
| vishy | fix committed! | 21:37 |
| ttx | Bug 939557 (unassigned) | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 939557 in nova "'nova reboot' under KVM always does a hard reboot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939557 | 21:37 |
| danwent | vishy: bug 942896 | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942896 in quantum "QuantumManager should set network['host'] when creating the network entry in the database" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942896 | 21:37 |
| vishy | I think 939557 i s important | 21:37 |
| ttx | Bug 922465 (unassigned) | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 922465 in nova "mismatch between nova project ID and keystone tenant name" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922465 | 21:37 |
| vishy | lets target it | 21:37 |
| ttx | on it | 21:37 |
| vishy | I will try and fix it this afternoon | 21:37 |
| danwent | bhall is working on 942896, should have a pretty small patch to submit soon. | 21:38 |
| * ttx reloads the list to see if it looks good now | 21:38 | |
| vishy | ttx: i don't think 922465 is valid | 21:38 |
| vishy | danwent: can we get it today | 21:39 |
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| ttx | vishy: ok | 21:39 |
| vishy | ttx: i think we use project_id == tenant_id everywhere | 21:39 |
| danwent | vishy: yes, should be proposed for review within the hour | 21:39 |
| ttx | vishy: refreshed https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:39 |
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| ttx | bug 942880 is now unassigned ? | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942880 in nova "Problem specifying device when attaching volumes on XEN" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942880 | 21:39 |
| ttx | same for bug 897075 ? | 21:40 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 897075 in nova "volume int is id not uuid" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/897075 | 21:40 |
| vishy | i untargeted volume id | 21:41 |
| vishy | too big a change at this point | 21:41 |
| vishy | we will have to switch to uuids in folsom | 21:41 |
| vishy | the other fix is very simple | 21:41 |
| vishy | I was just hoping to find renuka to see if there is a reason it isn't supported already | 21:42 |
| jdg | vishy: Should I hold off on working on 897075 then? | 21:42 |
| vishy | i sent her an email | 21:42 |
| vishy | jdg: you can work on it if you want | 21:42 |
| ttx | vishy: I'll assign to you, so that you reassign | 21:42 |
| jdg | thanks | 21:42 |
| ttx | (942880) | 21:42 |
| vishy | jdg: just have to wait for merge until folsom | 21:42 |
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| jdg | NP | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: ok, the list looks better now -- the idea is to keep it as the E4 blockers, so punting things to RC1 where appropriate to avoid blocking E4 forever | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:44 |
| rkukura | does bug 941794 need to be targeted in nova to get in for E4? | 21:44 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 941794 in quantum "VIF and Interface drivers for Quantum Linux Bridge plugin need to be added to linux_net library" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941794 | 21:44 |
| ttx | rkukura: starting tomorrow morning yes | 21:44 |
| vishy | just a general request to nova core to help review | 21:44 |
| vishy | s/review/triage bugs | 21:45 |
| vishy | and mark stuff critical | 21:45 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:45 |
| vishy | There are generally too many to keep up so if anyone sees a bug that looks like it should block release, mark it critical please | 21:45 |
| ttx | vishy: hmm, or target it to RC1 (when I'll have that setup) | 21:46 |
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| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:46 |
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| ttx | devcamcar: o/ | 21:46 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:46 |
| ttx | 5 incomplete blueprints... | 21:47 |
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| ttx | ohnoimdead: What should hit in the next hours, and what should be deferred to Folsom ? | 21:47 |
| pvo | vishy: will peek at that in a sec. | 21:47 |
| ohnoimdead | ttx: i think we will have all blueprints done today except ext-roles which is blocked by keystone | 21:48 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: what's your plan for that one ? | 21:48 |
| ttx | grant a post-E4 exception ? | 21:49 |
| ttx | defer ? | 21:49 |
| ohnoimdead | ttx: i think we have to punt on that one sadly. | 21:49 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: ok, so I just cut milestone-proposed with what's in at the end of the day ? | 21:50 |
| ttx | or should I wait if anything is not marked Implemented or Deferred ? | 21:50 |
| ohnoimdead | ttx: what is "end of the day"? | 21:51 |
| ttx | 0900 UTC tomorrow. | 21:52 |
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| ttx | 11 hours from now | 21:52 |
| ohnoimdead | we'll mark everything implemented as we go. i think we'll be good. | 21:52 |
| ttx | Looking at the E4-targeted bugs now... | 21:52 |
| ttx | I'd like to know which ones are E4 blockers and which ones can be fixed in the weeks that are left until Essex release. | 21:53 |
| ttx | The latter can be targeted to RC1 instead. | 21:53 |
| ttx | (ince i have that created in a few min) | 21:53 |
| ttx | At one point the E4 list must be empty, to signal me that E4 is ready to go. | 21:53 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: does that make sense ? | 21:53 |
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| ohnoimdead | yeah, makes perfect sense. i don't think anythin on this list is a blocker. just a few nice-to-have cleanups, improvements, etc. | 21:54 |
| ttx | ok, so we'll have to punt a few tomorrow to RC1 | 21:54 |
| ttx | ohnoimdead: Anything else ? | 21:54 |
| ohnoimdead | ttx: sounds good | 21:54 |
| ttx | Questions for Horizon ? | 21:54 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects and other Team reports | 21:55 |
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| ohnoimdead | joe/termie: any comments on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/ext-roles? | 21:55 |
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| anotherjesse | ttx: question on process: we don't do a real release (mark RC as release) until all the RCs are ready - correct? | 21:55 |
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| anotherjesse | ohnoimdead: not going to land in e4 | 21:55 |
| termie | ohnoimdead: looks all like stuff you can do on your own by copying policy.py from nova | 21:55 |
| ttx | anotherjesse: right. Hopefully on April 5. | 21:55 |
| heckj | anotherjesse: ++ | 21:56 |
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| termie | ohnoimdead: but you should probably talk to us more abotu it because you seem to be using global roles | 21:56 |
| anotherjesse | ohnoimdead: are you asking can you add arbitrary roles or if there is an RBAC policy api? | 21:56 |
| * ttx parallelizes | 21:58 | |
| termie | ohnoimdead: (our general consensus on that was to ahve an "admin" tenant that you grant those roles under, and use that tenant when you are going to perform admin tasks" | 21:58 |
| ohnoimdead | termie: cool. you, joe and i can talk offline. | 21:58 |
| ttx | danwent, troytoman: yo | 21:58 |
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| danwent | hi ttx | 21:58 |
| troytoman | hello | 21:58 |
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| danwent | E-4 quantum is looking good: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-4 | 21:58 |
| danwent | freezing big features a week early certainly helped | 21:58 |
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| ttx | danwent: I can cut the milestone-proposed tomorrw morning ? | 21:58 |
| ttx | troytoman: same question | 21:58 |
| danwent | we have one big fix that needs to go into Quantum, one that will likely need to go into Nova, but we should be good for tomorrow morning | 21:59 |
| danwent | both should be easily reviewed today. | 21:59 |
| troytoman | ttx: yes. i think we are good | 21:59 |
| ttx | danwent: send me an email in the case I shouldn't | 21:59 |
| danwent | ttx: ack | 21:59 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 21:59 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 22:00 | |
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| ttx | Note that starting tomorrow, in order to assign the last seats, the design summit should no longer be invite-only | 22:00 |
| ttx | So if you received an invite and want to attend, you should use it today ! | 22:00 |
| ttx | Because when we reach max capacity, it will be closed. | 22:00 |
| ttx | Also, don't forget to vote :) | 22:00 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 22:00 |
| ttx | ok then | 22:01 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and Progress (Meeting topic: keystone-meeting)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 22:01:48 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-21.02.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-21.02.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-21.02.log.html | 22:01 |
| * ttx kinda prefers his pre-milestone meetings without netspits. | 22:02 | |
| ttx | splits | 22:02 |
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| danwent | #startmeeting | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 28 22:02:27 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 22:02 |
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| danwent | ok, who's here from netstack team? | 22:02 |
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| davlap | o/ | 22:02 |
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| mestery | o/ | 22:02 |
| * bhall is here | 22:02 | |
| * rkukura is here | 22:03 | |
| danwent | #link Agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 22:03 |
| cdub | o/ | 22:03 |
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| salv-orlando | HELLO | 22:03 |
| edgarmagana | Hi! | 22:03 |
| danwent | hello all… good crowd :) | 22:03 |
| wwkeyboard | here | 22:03 |
| bhall | salv-orlando: don't need to yell .. | 22:03 |
| edgarmagana | short agenda, I love it! | 22:03 |
| bhall | :) | 22:03 |
| danwent | #info today is the last day to use an invite code to get a seat at the developer summit. Use it or lose it! | 22:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 22:04 |
| danwent | #info after today, will be general registration open to all until it fills up | 22:04 |
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| danwent | Ok, main focus today is E-4: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/essex-4 | 22:04 |
| danwent | please pull up page so we can walk through issues | 22:04 |
| danwent | debo-os here? | 22:04 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-system-functional-tests | 22:05 |
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| danwent | this doesn't have to do into quantum or nova, so its not subject to milestone-proposed, but we'd like to get this merged into devstack soon | 22:05 |
| danwent | will be important to avoid breakage as we get very close to essex release. | 22:05 |
| danwent | all other blueprints are already in and merged…. good work reviewing all. Nice to have a more relaxed release (fingers crossed) | 22:06 |
| danwent | There are a few bugs we need to talk about | 22:06 |
| debo-os | hi | 22:06 |
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| danwent | ah, debo. any update on the exercise.sh script + devstack? | 22:06 |
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| debo-os | my devstack scripts are running into some issues with teh latest pull .... keystone again ... other than that | 22:07 |
| debo-os | I think I should send out the review tonight (crosses fingers) | 22:07 |
| danwent | ok… is this a known issue for keystone? | 22:08 |
| debo-os | htey have the stuff suggested by DaveL | 22:08 |
| danwent | or do we need to contact them? | 22:08 |
| debo-os | I think they changed the cli (and we are using the cli) | 22:08 |
| davlap | debo-os: i ran into the same thing.. | 22:08 |
| davlap | fix wasn't too bad.. | 22:08 |
| danwent | debo-os: me too. I think they actually changed it twice :) | 22:09 |
| anotherjesse | danwent: at least | 22:09 |
| anotherjesse | (we did) | 22:09 |
| danwent | :) | 22:09 |
| debo-os | cool, then we will figure it out by today and do a review | 22:09 |
| anotherjesse | feel free to email any questions though | 22:09 |
| danwent | ok, so debo-os will try to get devstack stuff in tonight. Dave can help work around keystone issue if needed. | 22:09 |
| danwent | anotherjesse: thanks, debo may take you up on that | 22:10 |
| danwent | Ok, next topic is bug 942713 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942713 in quantum "some plugins don't check tenant ownership" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942713 | 22:10 |
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| danwent | two things here | 22:10 |
| danwent | 1) we need reviews on this patch. changes are pretty simple, and covered by unit tests, so I don't expect problems there, we just need eyeballs | 22:11 |
| debo-os | dan,davel:thx for the help | 22:11 |
| debo-os | anotherjesse: here i come to bug | 22:11 |
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| danwent | 2) someone from the cisco team should look into whether changes are needed for the cisco plugin | 22:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: reg cisco, thats a different db | 22:11 |
| danwent | as that uses a different database module, based on a very quick inspection | 22:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah | 22:12 |
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| danwent | Sumit: Ok, just wanted to give you a heads up. | 22:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: were you able to test this end-to-end, i.e. alongwith QuantumManager? | 22:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: thanks | 22:12 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: what about the authorization work? I was expecting that to cover ownership | 22:12 |
| danwent | Sumit: not yet. | 22:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i had problems earlier when I was trying to do something similar | 22:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | while doing the Linux bridge plugin | 22:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | QM was sending some different tenant ids | 22:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | as to what was in the Quantum DB | 22:13 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | may or may not be as issue still (unless it was by design) | 22:14 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: tenant-id is passed into the plugin, so it seems odd that the plugin would not at least check the tenant-id | 22:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thought i did just mention it | 22:14 |
| danwent | Sumit: thanks. | 22:14 |
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| salv-orlando | danwent: I'm fine with that. We just need to keep in mind that we have to document it. | 22:15 |
| danwent | Salv-orlando: can you clarify? | 22:15 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: current bug is that if I create a network using tenant X with UUID Z, and then query using a URL with tenant Y and UUID Z, I get a response | 22:16 |
| danwent | that this network exists. | 22:16 |
| salv-orlando | People that want to write a Quantum plugin need to know that they have to check that the tenant-id invoking the call must own the network for which the call is concerned | 22:16 |
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| salv-orlando | otherwise they will commit code without this check... as it was for the plugins we have now in our repository! :) | 22:17 |
| salv-orlando | that what I meant by 'documenting' | 22:17 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: sure. I also added a unit test, so they won't be able to pass unit tests | 22:17 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: cool, that counts as documentation | 22:17 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: perhaps we should also update the quantum_plugin_base class documentation to make it more clear what the meaning of the "tenant" being passed in is. | 22:17 |
| salv-orlando | make sense | 22:18 |
| danwent | #TODO: #danwent look into updating quantum_plugin_base.py to document that tenant-id should be checked. | 22:18 |
| salv-orlando | are we then going to abort the authorization work assigned to Somik? Or are we still doing it for Folsom? | 22:18 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: still worth doing for Folsom, I believe. | 22:19 |
| salv-orlando | ok | 22:19 |
| danwent | Deepak was actually planning on working on it | 22:19 |
| danwent | Another fairly urgent issue reported on this list is that floating IPs aren't working, at least in some scenarios: 942896 | 22:20 |
| danwent | bug 942896 | 22:20 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 942896 in quantum "QuantumManager should set network['host'] when creating the network entry in the database" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942896 | 22:20 |
| danwent | This will be a nova change, I think brad will propose it today. | 22:20 |
| danwent | sumit, you have: bug 922356 and bug 941794 | 22:21 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 922356 in quantum "QuantumManager does not invoke unplug on the linux_net driver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922356 | 22:21 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 941794 in quantum "VIF and Interface drivers for Quantum Linux Bridge plugin need to be added to linux_net library" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941794 | 22:21 |
| danwent | one is in review, right? | 22:21 |
| danwent | what is status on other? | 22:21 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the former one, I am working on it | 22:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the later one has one review, but I guess need two core reviews on the nova side | 22:22 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. | 22:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | had some discussion with Vish yesterday, and he seems to be in favor of getting it it (i am referring to 941794) | 22:23 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: bug 921743 | 22:23 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 921743 in quantum "Quantum API 1.0 does not conform with spec for creates" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921743 | 22:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | it -> in | 22:24 |
| salv-orlando | Gerrit hates me | 22:24 |
| danwent | I think that was proposed a while back, but never reviewed. Planning on proposing for review again? | 22:24 |
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| salv-orlando | I am trying to resubmit it but everytime gerrit rejects the change. I also ensured another change-id was generated. | 22:24 |
| salv-orlando | If nothing works, I will do a completely new branch with the same changes and see what happens | 22:25 |
| danwent | very strange... | 22:25 |
| danwent | given time constraints, creating a new branch is probably best, but might be good to ping mtaylor or jeblair | 22:26 |
| danwent | as it could be a bug in the infrastructure itself. | 22:26 |
| edgarmagana | Salv: I had an issue with gerrit because of having two IDs | 22:26 |
| salv-orlando | It worked fine with another bug. I must be doing somehting wrong with this but I can't understand what. | 22:26 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: yeah, i'd just generate a patch, create a new branch from master, and apply patch | 22:27 |
| danwent | We also have the lxml requirement change patch: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4235 | 22:28 |
| salv-orlando | you will not believe me, but I did a cherry-pick from that branch to a new branch and it still did not work :) but the patch is something different and might work | 22:28 |
| danwent | that needs some love from two core reviewers | 22:28 |
| salv-orlando | didn't I loved it already :) | 22:28 |
| salv-orlando | ? | 22:28 |
| danwent | perhaps in a former life (i.e., former patch-set) | 22:28 |
| danwent | its a needy lover | 22:28 |
| salv-orlando | I just gave her a kiss | 22:29 |
| danwent | thx. I will review as well, so we should be good there | 22:29 |
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| danwent | also: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4580 | 22:29 |
| danwent | adds support for detail actions to the client-lib and CLI | 22:30 |
| danwent | would be nice to have that… was an oversight that this functionality wasn't there in the first place | 22:30 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#change,3808 - mtaylor's patch to freeze requirements | 22:30 |
| danwent | also in the client repo | 22:30 |
| danwent | i'm not sure about the status of this one, or whether anyone has tested it. | 22:31 |
| danwent | any comments? | 22:31 |
| danwent | seems mainly developer relevant, so there's probably no need to rush it before a release | 22:31 |
| salv-orlando | 4580 also adds run_tests to python-quantumclient, which is good | 22:31 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: ah… I actually thought that we were moving away from that toward tox.. or at least that is what mtaylor said. | 22:32 |
| danwent | (I may be misremembering though) | 22:32 |
| danwent | I agree that the lack of a run_tests.sh is a bit confusing, so I'm ok with adding it unless someone else objects | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: you're right | 22:32 |
| salv-orlando | but is tox integrated with jenkins on gerrit? | 22:33 |
| danwent | right now jenkins doesn't run our unit tests for quantum or python-quantumclient. I already contacted the openstack-ci team to try and get that running, now that we're going to be core | 22:34 |
| danwent | haven't heard back yet. | 22:34 |
| danwent | #TODO: #danwent ping openstack CI team again about gating quantum repos on unit tests | 22:34 |
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| danwent | Ok, any other E-4 items to discuss? | 22:35 |
| salv-orlando | ok, so I think we should probably ash Madhav to split bhis changeset in two: one for the cli improvement, and one for the run_tests bit | 22:35 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: I would agree with that approach (haven't looked at the patch itself yet) | 22:35 |
| danwent | in general, seems like two entirely different changes | 22:36 |
| salv-orlando | they are :) | 22:36 |
| danwent | Ok, open discussion | 22:36 |
| danwent | one topic we wanted to touch on briefly was related to a patch from Isaku Yamahata | 22:36 |
| carlp | Is everyone who is a steakholder in Layer 3 services going to the design summit and/or conference? | 22:37 |
| danwent | he was proposing adding plugin-specific dependencies to the main pip-requires | 22:37 |
| danwent | carlp: one sec please | 22:37 |
| danwent | so far our model has been that pip-requires only include plugin agnostic dependencies | 22:37 |
| salv-orlando | I agree with you r-1 | 22:38 |
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| salv-orlando | your minus 1 | 22:38 |
| danwent | though we violate that a bit for the SamplePlugin, since that is needed to run tests and the dependencies are pretty similar | 22:38 |
| danwent | if anyone disagrees, please speak up, otherwise we'll keep the -1. | 22:38 |
| salv-orlando | I don't see any reason for installing dependencies for plugins that one is not going to use | 22:38 |
| danwent | for a while we had plugin-specific pip-requires files, but I believe someone from the openstack ci team didn't like that? | 22:38 |
| danwent | anyone remember anything more about that? | 22:39 |
| danwent | ok, carlp, please proceed | 22:39 |
| cdub | it's nice to record the dependencies, and esp. if they go into their own repos later, pip-requires makes sense then (obviously ;) | 22:39 |
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| carlp | danwent: didn't mean to talk over you, my typing not so fast today :) | 22:40 |
| danwent | cdub: yes, i'd like a standard way for plugins to describe their dependencies, but in a way that doesn't require everyone to install dependencies for all plugins | 22:40 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the current mechanism of documenting in the README is does not seem to be ideal | 22:40 |
| danwent | carlp: no worries. | 22:40 |
| cdub | danwent: agreed there | 22:40 |
| danwent | Sumit: agreed. something more standardized, like plugin specific pip-requires would be nice | 22:40 |
| carlp | I'd like to have an in-person discussion about Layer 3 stuff at the summit, I was just wondering if everyone who is a current stakeholder is going to be there? | 22:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dan: agreed | 22:41 |
| danwent | #TODO #danwent explore why we got rid of plugin-specific pip-requires files. | 22:41 |
| bhall | danwent: I think plugin pip-requires got removed because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/906636 | 22:41 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 906636 in openstack-ci "quantum virtualenv doesn't build" [Critical,Fix released] | 22:41 |
| danwent | carlp: they should be, and if not, they should contact me today about getting an invite | 22:41 |
| danwent | as design summit is open to general registration tomorrow, meaning it will fil up fast | 22:42 |
| carlp | I won't be there for the summit (overlaps with a planned vacation), but I will be there for the conference and maybe the last day of the conference. | 22:42 |
| danwent | bhall: thanks. need to read in more detail, but doesn't seem like that required the pip-requires files to be removed | 22:43 |
| carlp | I wasn't sure what the schedule would be like, and networking was all on day one last year. I didn't want to rock the boat, just have a BoF on the last day or during one of the conference days. | 22:43 |
| danwent | but perhaps I didn't make it that far down the page | 22:43 |
| danwent | carlp: if you will be at the summit on the last day, we could try and schedule the L3 discussions on that day. | 22:43 |
| danwent | I can have things rescheduled | 22:44 |
| danwent | we can have informal discussions at the conference, but they won't be a replacment for a full design session at the summit. | 22:44 |
| danwent | so please ping me once you know your exact schedule | 22:45 |
| carlp | danwent: I can be there on the last day, no problem | 22:45 |
| mestery | Not sure about other folks, but given travel, I'm planning to take off on Thursday during the conference. | 22:45 |
| carlp | danwent: I will need an invite however :) | 22:45 |
| danwent | calrp: ok, will send you one | 22:45 |
| carlp | danwent: thanks! | 22:45 |
| danwent | mestery: ok, but wed is not a problem for anyone? | 22:45 |
| mestery | wed works for me just fine | 22:46 |
| danwent | ok, sounds good. L3 at least will be discussed on wed. | 22:46 |
| danwent | Ok, any other quantum discussion? | 22:46 |
| danwent | other than keep the good testing, and please help the last few reviews get through | 22:46 |
| danwent | ok, have a good week folks! | 22:47 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 22:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 22:47:17 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-22.02.html | 22:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-22.02.txt | 22:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-02-28-22.02.log.html | 22:47 |
| salv-orlando | bye! | 22:47 |
| carlp | thanks! | 22:47 |
| edgarmagana | adeu | 22:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | later, bye! | 22:47 |
| mestery | Later! | 22:47 |
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