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salv | dolphm: We took out Keystone integration from Quantum's diablo release. So I don't think we need it in stable/diablo. Essex-1 should be fine. | 00:07 |
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westmaas | hmm | 16:05 |
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bcwaldon | anybody here? | 16:07 |
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jaypipes | heya | 16:08 |
jaypipes | sorry, damn daylight savings... | 16:08 |
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* ttx wonders if putting the gCal iframe on the meetings page would help. | 16:09 | |
westmaas | speaking of the meeting page, how can we get logs from previous meetings to show up here? http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/QATeamMeeting | 16:09 |
ttx | westmaas: by copying the link MeetBot gives you at the end of the meeting -- into some wiki page | 16:10 |
westmaas | ttx got it | 16:10 |
ttx | Like on http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/TeamMeetingLogs | 16:10 |
westmaas | lol | 16:10 |
westmaas | nati2: here? | 16:12 |
westmaas | rohitk: ? | 16:12 |
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jaypipes | looks like a number of folks aren't around... daryll, gigi, nati, nayna, ravi | 16:12 |
jaypipes | westmaas: want to try in 1 hour? | 16:13 |
jaypipes | westmaas: I think daylight savings has messed with people a bit. | 16:13 |
bcwaldon | at least one | 16:13 |
westmaas | sure, that's fine | 16:13 |
jaypipes | bcwaldon: :P | 16:13 |
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rohitk | here! | 16:15 |
rohitk | sorry | 16:15 |
rohitk | no DST for me :) | 16:15 |
ttx | rohitk: yay! | 16:15 |
westmaas | rohitk: think we are just gonna start in 40 | 16:17 |
rohitk | westmaas: sure | 16:17 |
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jaypipes | Hey all QAers, are we ready for the weekly meeting? | 17:00 |
jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: is Nayna available? | 17:00 |
jaypipes | dwalleck: is Gigi around? | 17:01 |
Ravikumar_hp | jaypipes: Nayna is in offsite | 17:01 |
jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: ok, no worries | 17:01 |
Ravikumar_hp | Next week she will join | 17:01 |
dwalleck | jaypipes: I haven't seen her this morning. I'm not sure where she is | 17:01 |
jaypipes | cool | 17:01 |
jaypipes | dwalleck: ok. no probs, just curious | 17:01 |
jaypipes | westmaas: ready? | 17:01 |
jaypipes | pvo or jkoelker: is Aaron around? please let him know QA meeting is now. | 17:02 |
nati2 | Hi folks | 17:02 |
nati2 | Sorry! I'm late | 17:03 |
jaypipes | no probs | 17:03 |
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jaypipes | waiting a short time longer for gabe and/or Aaron | 17:03 |
jaypipes | wwkeyboard: aha :) | 17:03 |
nati2 | gotcha :) | 17:03 |
jaypipes | welcome | 17:03 |
wwkeyboard | hello! | 17:03 |
* annegentle lurks :) | 17:03 | |
dwalleck | I also have a few of my team members here as well | 17:03 |
jaypipes | annegentle: :) | 17:04 |
jaypipes | dwalleck: awesome. | 17:04 |
jaypipes | OK, let's get started. Gabe will join shortly I'm sure | 17:04 |
jaypipes | #startmeeting | 17:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 9 17:04:17 2011 UTC. The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 17:04 |
jaypipes | #topic Bug fixes and unit tests going into stable/diablo | 17:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Bug fixes and unit tests going into stable/diablo" | 17:04 | |
nati2 | Yes, we are almost finished to write unit test. | 17:04 |
jaypipes | nati2: OK, we need to discuss how the bug fixes/new tests are being proposed into stable/diablo | 17:05 |
jaypipes | nati2: so... | 17:05 |
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nati2 | Yes.. I got the point. Essex first , Diablo second | 17:05 |
jaypipes | nati2: Fixes/patches should FIRST be proposed to Essex trunk. | 17:05 |
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jaypipes | nati2: Ah, OK, good | 17:05 |
nati2 | jaypipes: yes. I got it | 17:05 |
jaypipes | nati2: sounds like someone got to you already :)\ | 17:05 |
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nati2 | jaypipes: problem is man power. X( | 17:05 |
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jaypipes | nati2: understood. | 17:05 |
jaypipes | nati2: what can this team do to assist you? | 17:06 |
nati2 | jaypipes: we have very strict milestone on December | 17:06 |
jaypipes | nati2: is the problem that it's just you doing the translation from Japanese? | 17:06 |
nati2 | jaypipes: It is very helpfull who helps merge cherrypick our commit to Essex | 17:06 |
nati2 | jaypipes: Because we write test based on dialblo/stable | 17:06 |
jaypipes | nati2: hmm... | 17:06 |
nati2 | jaypipes: no no japanese translation problem occured | 17:06 |
jaypipes | nati2: so, is there any chance of getting those bug fixes targeted at Essex first? | 17:07 |
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nati2 | jaypipes: hmm, my team have not enough man power now to do that. We wanna fix it following way. stable/diablo internally first -> modify it for Essex. -> review request for Essex -> review request for Diablo | 17:08 |
jaypipes | nati2: but wouldn't it be more efficient to do the fix against Essex and have Mark and his team do the backports to stable/diablo? | 17:09 |
jaypipes | nati2: that way your team doesn't have to do double work | 17:09 |
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nati2 | jaypipes: Ah, however we need all bug fixed internally on this week, and my team already start working. | 17:11 |
nati2 | jaypipes: And I couldn't make it merged on this week. | 17:11 |
jaypipes | nati2: k, understood. | 17:11 |
jaypipes | nati2: OK, so we need a plan for when your team will switch from working on Diablo directly to working on trunk. | 17:11 |
jaypipes | nati2: and then I can work on the "forwardports" of your existing fixes to the essex trunk. | 17:12 |
jaypipes | nati2: but we need a hard date that your team will stop developing against Diablo | 17:12 |
jaypipes | nati2: can we decide on a hard date for that? | 17:12 |
jaypipes | nati2: because I need to coordinate with MarkMc on it | 17:12 |
nati2 | jaypipes: hmm, I couldn't decide hard date now... If QA of diablo/stable succeed, and it is no problem. We can move Essex. | 17:14 |
jaypipes | nati2: unfortunately, that won't work :) We will need a hard date so that we can plan the switch. Because up until that hard date, someone is going to have to responsible for forwardporting all those fixes to Essex | 17:15 |
jaypipes | nati2: doesn't have to be decided right now, but before the end of this week a decision should be made IMO | 17:15 |
jaypipes | nati2: I will take this conversation offline with you and markmc | 17:16 |
nati2 | jaypipes: OK. I got it :) | 17:16 |
jaypipes | nati2: alrighty, want to give us a quick status report on the progress your team has made on bug fixes and unit tests in diablo/stabl? | 17:16 |
nati2 | jaypipes: Thanks for your coordination | 17:16 |
jaypipes | np | 17:16 |
nati2 | our team wrote 1000 bugs , and found 60 bugs on that. Exception handling and input value checking policy applied. | 17:17 |
nati2 | Exception message is more helpful now. | 17:18 |
nati2 | nnnoo I made typo | 17:18 |
nati2 | ur team wrote test case | 17:18 |
Ravikumar_hp | nati2 : 1000 bugs or 1000 unit tests? | 17:18 |
nati2 | 1000 unit tests | 17:18 |
nati2 | I pushed about half of it for review. | 17:18 |
nati2 | Another our branch is under my team review. | 17:19 |
jaypipes | wow, that is a lot :) | 17:19 |
nati2 | Take a look https://github.com/ntt-pf-lab/nova/branches | 17:19 |
nati2 | you can see all branch here | 17:19 |
nati2 | And also it is linked with bug report on openstack-qa team. | 17:19 |
jaypipes | OK, excellent. That will be very helpful in the process of forward-porting | 17:20 |
jaypipes | alright, anybody have question for nati2 before we move on? | 17:21 |
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jaypipes | OK, moving on. | 17:21 |
nati2 | Thanks. There are about 60 branched. And I think 1 branch takes 10-20min at average to forward-port | 17:21 |
nati2 | so 1200 min man power needed. | 17:22 |
jaypipes | #topic dwalleck, bcwaldon and wwkeyboard to give status report on integration tests | 17:22 |
*** openstack changes topic to "dwalleck, bcwaldon and wwkeyboard to give status report on integration tests" | 17:22 | |
jaypipes | and westmaas if he's around ;) | 17:22 |
westmaas | hello :) | 17:22 |
dwalleck | There he is | 17:22 |
mtaylor | o/ btw | 17:22 |
jaypipes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/openstack-integration-tests,n,z | 17:22 |
westmaas | at the moment we are waiting on the one review: https://review.openstack.org/#change,1251 | 17:23 |
westmaas | which we agreed last time would be the basis for future tests to go in | 17:23 |
westmaas | looks like we are close on that one | 17:23 |
jaypipes | yep, I'll add a review on that too, shortly. | 17:23 |
westmaas | dwalleck: I think its waiting on one last comment from you, no more code necessary | 17:23 |
westmaas | just see if you agree with the general path, and then we can push that through | 17:24 |
jaypipes | westmaas: did we finalize a new name for the project? | 17:24 |
westmaas | jaypipes: no :( | 17:24 |
jaypipes | oh, poop. | 17:24 |
westmaas | storm is taken on launchpad, so thats a no go | 17:24 |
jaypipes | ah | 17:24 |
westmaas | will make a new poll today | 17:24 |
dwalleck | westmaas: From bcwaldon? I think I replied to that. But I can reply again and agree :) | 17:24 |
dwalleck | boo | 17:24 |
nati2 | ahh | 17:24 |
westmaas | dwalleck: from blamar | 17:24 |
dwalleck | Ahh, gotcha | 17:24 |
westmaas | will make a new poll today with a new pre-checked list of names | 17:24 |
westmaas | if anyone has any suggestions, email them to me | 17:25 |
bcwaldon | what's your email address | 17:25 |
jaypipes | westmaas: what about the patch from blamar? | 17:25 |
jaypipes | https://review.openstack.org/1296 | 17:25 |
westmaas | bcwaldon: gabe.westmaas@rackspace.com | 17:25 |
westmaas | jaypipes: that can make it in, the test will be migrated over | 17:26 |
jaypipes | k, cool | 17:26 |
jaypipes | mtaylor, jeblair: want to give a quick status update on the state of the CI job that should be kicking off the openstack-integration-tests against the RAX CI ccluster? | 17:26 |
mtaylor | sure. | 17:27 |
westmaas | I think daryl's should make it in with the name storm, and when we get the final name in we can do a quick change, does that seem reasonable? | 17:27 |
bcwaldon | westmaas: ++ | 17:27 |
jaypipes | I know that dean troyer has done some legwork to make it possible to fire openstack-=integration-tests against a devstack | 17:27 |
dwalleck | ++ | 17:27 |
jaypipes | westmaas: ++ | 17:27 |
jaypipes | westmaas: stackstorm? :) | 17:28 |
bcwaldon | jaypipes: yep, I've been talking to him a bit | 17:28 |
westmaas | jaypipes: will add it :) | 17:28 |
dwalleck | And I just called blamar blamer in my comments, so sorry about that :) | 17:28 |
jaypipes | bcwaldon: talking to Dean? | 17:28 |
westmaas | dwalleck: thats what we call him | 17:28 |
bcwaldon | jaypipes: yep | 17:28 |
nati2 | westmaas: openstuck | 17:28 |
jaypipes | k | 17:28 |
blamar | dwalleck: no worries, it's happened a couple times in my life | 17:28 |
jaypipes | nati2: LOL, that | 17:28 |
jaypipes | is awesome | 17:28 |
nati2 | jaypipes: :p | 17:29 |
dwalleck | raid: it kills bugs :) | 17:29 |
jaypipes | :) | 17:29 |
dwalleck | jk | 17:29 |
nati2 | Ah I wanna discuss about CI stuff | 17:29 |
nati2 | I heard jenkins team will use devstack | 17:29 |
jaypipes | nati2: I think mtayloris giving an update... | 17:29 |
nati2 | jaypipes: gotcha mtaylor: please | 17:30 |
jaypipes | or jeblair :) | 17:30 |
mtaylor | yes. we've got devstack successfully running in cloud servers now and running exercise.sh against stable/diablo | 17:30 |
mtaylor | we're working on getting a few things done so that it's possible to safely build a gating job that uses that | 17:31 |
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mtaylor | and then next week jesse and rcb are going to get devstack working on trunk | 17:32 |
westmaas | mtaylor: what's exercise.sh? | 17:32 |
westmaas | is that devstack script? | 17:32 |
nati2 | mtaylor: great. Is that single node configration? | 17:32 |
blamar | s/exercise/jazzercise? | 17:32 |
mtaylor | westmaas: it's a placeholder script for testing in devstack. it's intended to be replaced by stormstack | 17:32 |
westmaas | mtaylor: got it | 17:32 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: is that a single node configuration? | 17:33 |
mtaylor | it is | 17:33 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: what happened to the 10-machine cluster? is that not being used now? :( | 17:33 |
nati2 | mtaylor: Do you have any multinode milestone? | 17:34 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: it's still there and still in service - but getting devstack working on it in that context is a little more work | 17:34 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: I'd like to point out that we *had* puppet-based deploy jobs already working on that... | 17:34 |
mtaylor | no. we did not | 17:35 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: how so? openstack-deploy-rax? | 17:35 |
mtaylor | we had puppet based jobs that installed software. that installation did not actually _work_ | 17:35 |
nati2 | ahh | 17:35 |
mtaylor | and we still have those jobs, and at the moment they deploy using devstack | 17:35 |
jaypipes | OK, so we have a different deploy method now that also doesn't work. | 17:35 |
Ravikumar_hp | mtaylor: jaypipes: o! - we want to try chef and puppet in hp cloud server | 17:36 |
mtaylor | but the openstack that they install can't run the simple exercise.sh test case | 17:36 |
jaypipes | Ravikumar_hp: yes, I know :) | 17:36 |
nati2 | so what's next milestone? extend devstack for multinode? | 17:36 |
mtaylor | Ravikumar_hp: yes. so - we'd love to have a cloud that deploys using chef or puppet as well | 17:36 |
nati2 | Ravikumar_hp: Both of puppet and chef? | 17:36 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: working with Ravikumar_hp and Nayna on that... we'll discuss offline. | 17:36 |
jaypipes | nati2: chef first, then later puppet... | 17:36 |
mtaylor | cool | 17:36 |
Ravikumar_hp | alternate in CI . one time puppet deploy next time chef | 17:36 |
nati2 | jaypipes: Gotcha. | 17:37 |
mtaylor | I do not want to do that... | 17:37 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: do what? | 17:37 |
mtaylor | I would rather have two sets of machines and deploy them the same way everytime | 17:37 |
nati2 | Ravikumar_hp: ah do you wanna puppet first? | 17:37 |
mtaylor | there isn't really a good way to express "one time use puppet then next time use chef" in jenkins | 17:37 |
Ravikumar_hp | nat2: chef first | 17:37 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: yes, that's fine... I was just saying that HP prefers Chef, so that is what they will be working on firest. | 17:37 |
nati2 | ok let's use chef | 17:37 |
mtaylor | but I'd LOVE to deploy using both every time | 17:37 |
mtaylor | ah. sure. that's fine | 17:38 |
mtaylor | so, from CI perspective, we're just working on getting SOMETHING gating on integration tests, which at the moment is devstack based | 17:38 |
nati2 | So chef based CI will be multinode test | 17:38 |
jaypipes | as I've always said, let us please just get SOMETHING running in a production-similar environment, then iterate for other deployment methods... | 17:38 |
nati2 | And also it can test deployment test and packaging test | 17:38 |
mtaylor | we'd LOVE to get some labs hooked in doing chef or puppet deploys/tests | 17:38 |
mtaylor | yes. I think we all agree there :) | 17:38 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: OK, so final word on this: where are you with the devstack-based multi-node installation? how many more days do you think? | 17:39 |
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mtaylor | jaypipes: the multi-node deploy _works_ ...but it seems there are some config issues with the cloud that is deployed and thusfar we've been unable to get those resolved | 17:40 |
mtaylor | so once that's sorted, we'll be in good shape there - although then we'll still be waiting on devstack to be ported to trunk | 17:40 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: are there bugs logged (or issues on GH)? | 17:40 |
mtaylor | however | 17:40 |
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mtaylor | we chatted with jesse about getting devstack sorted, and we'll have a stable/diablo branch of it for gating stable/diablo and then a trunk branch for trunk | 17:41 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: where can I go to see the progress of devstack and what's coming up in the next few month? | 17:41 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: no bugs yet, because we don't know what's wrong | 17:41 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: right now nowhere that I know of. as soon as we turn on the trunk gating job we'll also be taking over the home of devstack and gating it as well | 17:42 |
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mtaylor | but for now, you just have to look at github.com/cloudbuilders/devstack | 17:42 |
mtaylor | oh - I should mention... | 17:42 |
mtaylor | the client libs decision yesterday is going to allow us to clean up a few install issues... so that will be nice :) | 17:43 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: where are the Jenkins jobs that are attempting to build this multi-node setup with devstack? The only ones I see up there for the old puppet-based stuff are all disabled. | 17:43 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: those are the same jobs. there are no puppet-based jobs | 17:43 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: they are all disabled. | 17:43 |
mtaylor | yes. because they don't do anything useful yet | 17:44 |
mtaylor | they are still under development | 17:44 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: how can we see the output of the jobs so that we can help diagnose the issues with them? | 17:44 |
mtaylor | one sec... lemme give you a link | 17:44 |
mtaylor | https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/All/job/dev-openstack-deploy-rax/50/ | 17:45 |
mtaylor | has syslog output from all three nodes as well as the jenkins console output | 17:45 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: ok, good. | 17:46 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: ty | 17:46 |
mtaylor | sure! | 17:46 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: what is the timeframe for getting this working? | 17:46 |
mtaylor | jeblair has a few additional things he's going to do there to get better logging, but we've been focused on getting the cloud-server gating job up and going because that's a short-term possible win | 17:46 |
mtaylor | jeblair: see jaypipes question above? | 17:46 |
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jaypipes | mtaylor: cloud-server gating job? | 17:47 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: link? | 17:47 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: also still under development :) | 17:47 |
jaypipes | mtaylor: that's fine... but some of us are interested in helping :) link? | 17:48 |
jeblair | hi | 17:48 |
mtaylor | jaypipes: and I believe jim is working on the glue needed to build that job | 17:48 |
jaypipes | k | 17:48 |
mtaylor | yay it's jeblair | 17:48 |
jeblair | https://jenkins.openstack.org/job/dev-openstack-deploy-rax/ | 17:49 |
jeblair | that's the job to deploy devstack on bare metal and run exercise.sh | 17:49 |
jeblair | it does not work | 17:49 |
jaypipes | jeblair: and the cloud-server one? | 17:50 |
jeblair | not checked in yet, i got it working last night | 17:50 |
jeblair | it still needs some things: | 17:51 |
jaypipes | jeblair: k | 17:51 |
jeblair | it needs to be pointed at the thing that's being gated, and it needs to use a stable/diablo branch of devstack to test stable/diablo changes to openstack | 17:52 |
jeblair | and it needs to pull logs back to jenkins | 17:52 |
jeblair | jesse says they'll be ready to move devstack to gerrit for gating early next week | 17:52 |
jeblair | so that's when i plan to set up trunk gating jobs for stable/diablo | 17:53 |
jaypipes | excellent | 17:53 |
jeblair | we've got a pretty cool feature planned too: | 17:54 |
jeblair | if the devstack vm gating job fails, it will install the ssh key of the dev who proposed the change and turn the vm over to them so they can log in, resume screen sessions, and figure out what's wrong. | 17:54 |
jaypipes | very cool. | 17:55 |
jeblair | hope so! :) | 17:56 |
jaypipes | OK, so does anyone have any questions for mtaylor or jeblair on the deployment jobs that openstack-integration-tests will eventually be run against? | 17:58 |
nati2 | I wanna know how to create packages | 17:58 |
nati2 | for chef based test | 17:59 |
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mtaylor | uhm | 17:59 |
mtaylor | zul: ping | 17:59 |
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zul | yep? | 18:00 |
zul | mtaylor: pongish | 18:00 |
mtaylor | nati2: so, we're still working on mechanics of automated trunk packages (although we are currently producing them) | 18:00 |
mtaylor | zul: nati2 was asking about making packages so that he can test chef-based deploys based on pacakges | 18:01 |
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zul | mtaylor: ok | 18:01 |
nati2 | mtaylor: zul: would you share current progress? | 18:01 |
mtaylor | nati2: well, _currently_ we are publishing packages to a PPA on trunk commits | 18:01 |
nati2 | mtaylor: zul: And also if you have any repos, would you please share it | 18:01 |
mtaylor | I believe we've decided to continue doing this | 18:01 |
zul | nati2: sure the packaging branches can be found at lp:~openstack-ubuntu-packagers/xxx/ubuntu which xxx is either nova/swift/glance/keystone/etc | 18:02 |
mtaylor | but those are only built after commits are made to trunk | 18:02 |
nati2 | Do you have stable/diablo version? | 18:02 |
nati2 | zul: Thanks | 18:02 |
mtaylor | so if you want to test packages _before_ a commit lands (for gating) you'll need to make a tarball, then grab the packaging branch, then build packages | 18:03 |
nati2 | I got it. I should learn it. | 18:04 |
mtaylor | yes. I believe that's a good idea | 18:04 |
nati2 | mtaylor: zul: Thanks | 18:05 |
mtaylor | we might just want to have a script at the beginning of your tests which makes packages for the commit you are testing ... let's keep chatting about that | 18:05 |
zul | nati2: n | 18:05 |
zul | er...np | 18:05 |
nati2 | so basically the script branch packageing code. then replace tarball | 18:06 |
nati2 | then run packaging command. right? | 18:06 |
mtaylor | basically | 18:06 |
nati2 | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Packaging/Ubuntu#Release_PPA | 18:07 |
mtaylor | I'll put something on my list to see if we can have a template job in jenkins that will do this so that it's easy to add in to a jenkins job | 18:07 |
nati2 | mtaylor++ | 18:07 |
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nati2 | k is there any topics? | 18:09 |
jaypipes | I think we're good to wrap up :) 9 minutes over.. | 18:09 |
jaypipes | #endmeeting | 18:09 |
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nati2 | Thanks all! bye! | 18:09 |
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