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| ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
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| glenc | \o | 21:00 |
| termie | \m/ | 21:00 |
| * Vek waves | 21:00 | |
| dabo | o/ | 21:00 |
| * medberry waves and wonders | 21:00 | |
| kpepple | o/ | 21:00 |
| * Vek is amused by the variations on a theme. | 21:00 | |
| dabo | Vek is easily amused, apparently | 21:01 |
| vishy | hehe | 21:01 |
| sandywalsh_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| ttx | OK, let's get started | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| Vek | dabo: depends on the level of amusement, but in essence...yes. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 12 21:01:22 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:01 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone to our weekly OpenStack team meeting... | 21:01 |
| ttx | Today's agenda: | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:01 |
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| ttx | #topic Current release stage: Release | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current release stage: Release" | 21:01 | |
| ttx | At the end of the day we are supposed to set RCFreeze and cut a release candidate tarball... | 21:02 |
| ttx | See http://wiki.openstack.org/RCFreeze | 21:02 |
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| ttx | With no more merges allowed, we use the last day before release to test the release candidate for blatant regressions. | 21:02 |
| ttx | Let's move directly to the next topic to discuss if a short delay would buy us a better release... | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic Cactus Release Go/no-go | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cactus Release Go/no-go" | 21:03 | |
| ttx | So there were far too many fixes landing in this post-Gamma timeframe, most of them warranted by their impact... | 21:03 |
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| ttx | I think we could use one more day of testing and rc-bugfixing. | 21:03 |
| soren | Easily. | 21:03 |
| ttx | So my proposal would be to delay the release by one day. | 21:03 |
| jk0 | +1 | 21:04 |
| ttx | RCFreeze EOD Wed, RC cut Thursday, Release push Friday | 21:04 |
| ttx | I think if we delay by more than a day, we'll start introducing large bugfixes again, with their potential for regression. We'll also open Diablo one week later... | 21:04 |
| blamar | Would the delay be for fixing regressions only? | 21:04 |
| ttx | blamar: the delay would be to fix a list we come up with on the next topic of this meeting. | 21:04 |
| kpepple | ttx: do we really want to push a release on Friday ... there will be very little support on IRC during the weekend if we get a show stopper | 21:04 |
| vishy | are there any unfixed bugs still remaining? | 21:05 |
| ttx | vishy: yes, see next topic | 21:05 |
| ttx | kpepple: in fact you cut a release candidate on the Thursday. | 21:05 |
| ttx | kpepple: on Friday it's just about pushing that RC through as the gold release | 21:05 |
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| ttx | kpepple: if the RC is broken, we might need more time to fix and cut a new RC. | 21:06 |
| ttx | kpepple: in which case we might delay to next week, but I'd rather not :) | 21:06 |
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| ttx | I think if we delay by more than a day, we'll start introducing large bugfixes again, with their potential for regression. We'll also open Diablo one week later... | 21:07 |
| ttx | jbryce, sparkycollier, spectorclan: I hope that won't screw up any PR plan ? | 21:07 |
| * jaypipes votes for one day delay only. | 21:07 | |
| vishy | what are we gaining by a day? | 21:07 |
| spectorclan | ttx: we should be fine, imho | 21:07 |
| ttx | vishy: a few extra fixes | 21:07 |
| kpepple | ttx: we won't really find out if RC is broken until the masses get their hands on it ... but i understand your relunctance | 21:07 |
| ttx | vishy: maybe we should discuss the list first | 21:08 |
| ttx | vishy: and then revisit if a one-day delay is useful. | 21:08 |
| vishy | ttx: ok | 21:08 |
| ttx | #topic RC bugs | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC bugs" | 21:08 | |
| jbryce | ttx: it won't be a problem if we know ahead of time | 21:08 |
| ttx | At this point we have the following RC bugs left: | 21:08 |
| ttx | Nova: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/752735 (Volumes aren't zeroed out) | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 752735 in nova "Volumes aren't zeroed out" [High,In progress] | 21:08 |
| ttx | Glance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/758761 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758761 in glance "logging in Swift backend store does not work" [Medium,In progress] | 21:09 |
| ttx | Glance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/756886 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 756886 in glance "is_public must be "True" - mismatch with docs" [Low,In progress] | 21:09 |
| sparkycollier | jbryce: agreed, if we know new plan today it's fine | 21:09 |
| ttx | Glance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/758762 | 21:09 |
| * vishy got smoketests passing again so I'm happy | 21:09 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758762 in glance "Need for more user-friendly docs" [Wishlist,In progress] | 21:09 |
| ttx | Swift is good to go so far. | 21:09 |
| ttx | Those 4 could go in today. | 21:09 |
| ttx | But I have other candidates on my watchlist: | 21:09 |
| ttx | Bug 759053 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 759053 in nova "Running an instance using an image name returns NotFound" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759053 | 21:09 |
| ttx | vishy: that's a regression, right ? | 21:10 |
| vishy | yes | 21:10 |
| vishy | and it will make a lot of our installation instructions not work if we don't fix it | 21:10 |
| ttx | ok, so I think it's a good RC candidate ? | 21:10 |
| ewindisch | ttx, the volumes being zeroed needs fixing - fyi | 21:10 |
| * ttx add 759053 to the list | 21:11 | |
| ttx | Bug 758404 | 21:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758404 in nova "euca-attach-volume fails when using RBD driver" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758404 | 21:11 |
| ttx | If I read this one correctly, RBD volumes are unusable | 21:11 |
| ttx | the fix is rather small and only affects RBD, which is broken without... | 21:12 |
| ttx | opinions ? | 21:12 |
| ttx | should it make it to "the list" ? | 21:12 |
| vishy | that one seems low impact i'd put it in | 21:12 |
| ttx | agreed | 21:13 |
| ttx | Bug 758810 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758810 in nova "VMwareAPIConnection class should inherit ComputeDriver class" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758810 | 21:13 |
| ttx | I'm a bit unsure of the impact, but I suppose it renders VMWare unusable ? | 21:13 |
| vishy | id really like this one to make it as well: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/has_role_cache/+merge/56449 | 21:13 |
| salvatore-orland | I also suppose so, thought I haven't had a chance to speak with Steesh | 21:14 |
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| ttx | vishy: just a sec | 21:14 |
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| ttx | Looking at the patch, I'd say bug 758810 should be in list | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758810 in nova "VMwareAPIConnection class should inherit ComputeDriver class" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758810 | 21:15 |
| ttx | any +1 / -1 ? | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | ttx: when doing a fix for another bug, I discovered this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/759012. I believe it should also be in the RC for Glance. It's a pain in the butt for users if it isn't... | 21:15 |
| salvatore-orland | +1 | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 759012 in glance "verbose and debug settings no effect on logging" [Critical,In progress] | 21:15 |
| soren | vishy: You want to add a patch that adds a feature, and changes flags? Really? Now? | 21:15 |
| ttx | jaypipes: beh | 21:15 |
| vishy | +1 | 21:15 |
| ttx | please only discuss one at a time | 21:16 |
| vishy | jaypipes: do we have the max image size bug fixed? | 21:16 |
| ttx | I'll come back to vish and Jay's. | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | k | 21:16 |
| ttx | ok, adding the VMWare one | 21:16 |
| vishy | soren: actually I wanted it a couple of weeks ago, but no one was reviewing it :( | 21:16 |
| ttx | bug 742256 | 21:16 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 742256 in nova "nova-compute should logout an iSCSI target on migration failure" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742256 | 21:16 |
| ttx | Not completely convinced by this one | 21:16 |
| ttx | since it's an error case, and we are already struggling with normal cases | 21:17 |
| soren | vishy: That's a separate (but real!) problem. | 21:17 |
| ttx | bug 750544 | 21:17 |
| sirp_ | vishy: max-image-size issue is fixed | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 750544 in nova "Snapshotting VM instance failing for KVM" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750544 | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | vishy: that image size needs 2 more core reviews. | 21:17 |
| soren | "Fix committed"? | 21:17 |
| ttx | fix commtted ? | 21:17 |
| ttx | wtf | 21:17 |
| ttx | ah, EBADSTATUS | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | sirp_, vishy: https://code.launchpad.net/~johannes.erdfelt/nova/bug723996/+merge/57367 | 21:18 |
| ttx | it's proposed for merging | 21:18 |
| sirp_ | jaypipes: oh i was thinking of the other issue, the 32-bit size column | 21:18 |
| sirp_ | nm | 21:18 |
| johan___ | if there's any other feedback for that fix, let me know | 21:18 |
| ttx | any opinion on the snapshotting one ? I think this is mostly untested | 21:18 |
| vishy | wow I hadn't seen the snapshotting bug | 21:19 |
| blamar | ttx: Very much so, I have a branch linked, but not confident in it for something to put in the last day. I'm sad to not include it though. | 21:19 |
| soren | I'm not super comfortable with it. | 21:19 |
| ttx | I'm ok to set it as a known issue | 21:19 |
| ewindisch | is that doing volume snapshots, too? | 21:19 |
| soren | Its current breakage is well understood: Attempts just utterly fail. | 21:19 |
| vishy | jaypipes: i was referring to the one in glance that put size as 32 bit number | 21:20 |
| blamar | soren: Have you tried the patches? | 21:20 |
| ttx | ok, -1 | 21:20 |
| soren | If we fix the call to qemu-img, I don't know if it works, and if not, how it fails. I say leave it. | 21:20 |
| vishy | soren: but what is the drawback of fixing that call? | 21:20 |
| vishy | soren: it is already failing | 21:20 |
| soren | vishy: I don't know. | 21:20 |
| soren | vishy: And that is precisely the poiint. | 21:21 |
| ttx | vishy: it may work, but you don't document how unsure we are that it does | 21:21 |
| jaypipes | vishy: that is in already, yes. | 21:21 |
| soren | vishy: Maybe it overwrites other snapshots. Or kills your kitten. | 21:21 |
| soren | I don't know. | 21:21 |
| soren | Right now, it jsut doesn't work. I know how to explain that to people. | 21:21 |
| soren | And people understand that. | 21:21 |
| vishy | soren: understood. Just marking off the list of things that we need to fix in our deploy branch :) | 21:21 |
| ttx | next: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/has_role_cache/+merge/56449 | 21:21 |
| ttx | vishy: I'm not comfortable with this at this point. | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | vishy, soren: is 750544 a Glance bug? I can't really tell. Looks like the snapshotting code for libvirt isn't calling glance-upload properly? | 21:22 |
| ewindisch | checking now, I'm seeing that we *are* doing snapshots... in this case, I'm going to have to more strongly oppose to the wipe-on-delete patch. | 21:22 |
| vishy | ttx: ok | 21:22 |
| ttx | bug 759012 | 21:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 759012 in glance "verbose and debug settings no effect on logging" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759012 | 21:22 |
| vishy | jaypipes: no i don't think it is a glance bug | 21:22 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I'm ok with it, if you think you can get all of them in in time... | 21:23 |
| soren | jaypipes: There might be a glance component to the bug, too, but first of all, the call to qemu-img is being passed as a string with spaces and stuff, and not as an argv. | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | ttx: I have the fix for that done. | 21:23 |
| soren | jaypipes: ..and that's my problem with it. I don't know if the breakage stops there. | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | soren: k | 21:23 |
| soren | ...but I think I've made my point by now :) | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | heh | 21:23 |
| ttx | jaypipes: added | 21:23 |
| ttx | any other candidates ? | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | ttx: cheers. Jordan will be happy. | 21:24 |
| ttx | Current lists: | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/cactus-rc | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/cactus-rc | 21:24 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.3-rc (empty) | 21:24 |
| ttx | hrm | 21:24 |
| ttx | I missed the vmware one | 21:24 |
| ttx | That's 4 for Nova, 4 for Glance | 21:25 |
| ttx | warranting one extra day. | 21:25 |
| Vek | *nod* | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | ttx: k. so when is the new proposed tarball cut time? | 21:26 |
| ttx | We'll need someone to convert the fix for bug 758810 into a branch merge proposal | 21:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 758810 in nova "VMwareAPIConnection class should inherit ComputeDriver class" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758810 | 21:26 |
| ttx | (patch is attached to the bug) | 21:26 |
| ttx | We freeze tomorrow EOD, I cut the tarball early Thursday. | 21:26 |
| salvatore-orland | I'll drop an email to Sateesh for the Branch merge proposal. If he can't I'll do it. | 21:27 |
| ttx | then unless we discover it's eating your data and sleeps with your wife, it's released on Friday. | 21:27 |
| Vek | the hard-drinkin' cactus... | 21:27 |
| ttx | Last comments ? | 21:28 |
| ttx | and then we open the diablo floodgates on Friday. | 21:28 |
| alekibango | we could release like this every week or two :) | 21:29 |
| soren | Or every day! | 21:29 |
| ttx | jbryce, spectorclan, sparkycollier: so release is early Friday morning | 21:29 |
| spectorclan | ttx: cool | 21:30 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 21:30 | |
| devcamcar | we need nova-adminclient in the ppas | 21:31 |
| vishy | any one else have doc fixes? | 21:31 |
| ttx | -core teams: At this point please only set to 'accepted' the merge proposals that are on the RC lists | 21:31 |
| vishy | ttx: can we put in doc changes? because if not, I'd like this to go in as well: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/cloudpipe-docs/+merge/57241 | 21:32 |
| * ttx looks | 21:32 | |
| jaypipes | ttx: I think doc fixes are fine, no? | 21:32 |
| jaypipes | pure doc fixes... | 21:32 |
| annegentle | we've done pure rst edits in the past | 21:32 |
| annegentle | I think so | 21:32 |
| ttx | well, they can regress too, like borking the doc generation and not ending in tarball | 21:33 |
| ttx | but we can certainly add them | 21:33 |
| annegentle | ttx: true, that doc gen bug is problematic | 21:33 |
| ttx | vishy: i'll create a "cloud pipes is heavily underdocumented" bug and rc it, so that it appears on the list | 21:33 |
| ttx | (on http://wiki.openstack.org/reviewslist/) | 21:34 |
| vishy | cool thanks | 21:34 |
| ttx | done | 21:35 |
| ttx | Last remark: we'll work on release notes at: | 21:36 |
| ttx | http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Cactus | 21:36 |
| ttx | That includes a small feature list and known bugs | 21:37 |
| ttx | Please feel free to contribute :) | 21:37 |
| * ttx will work on that tomorrow. | 21:37 | |
| tr3buchet | is there a way to make sure we don't overwrite other people's changes when working on the wiki? | 21:37 |
| ttx | tr3buchet: if there was, wikis wouldn't be so fun. | 21:38 |
| * annegentle will also work on release notes tomorrow | 21:38 | |
| tr3buchet | haha, i'm good with that | 21:38 |
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| ttx | anything else ? | 21:39 |
| annegentle | tr3buchet: heh. MoinMoin does warn you when someone else has the page opened for edits. Just edit quickly :) | 21:40 |
| ttx | ok then. | 21:40 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Openstack Meetings: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/" | 21:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 12 21:40:35 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-12-21.01.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-12-21.01.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-04-12-21.01.log.html | 21:40 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone ! | 21:40 |
| tr3buchet | good plan annegentle | 21:40 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: I'll let you set this one to approved: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/lp758810/+merge/57401 | 21:50 |
| vishy | jaypipes: he can't, he's not in core! | 21:52 |
| jaypipes | vishy: :) ah. | 21:52 |
| jaypipes | vishy: I'll do it. | 21:52 |
| jaypipes | vishy: kinda silly ttx isn't able to do that, being the release manage and all ;) | 21:53 |
| vishy | jaypipes: btw you asked if i needed help with blueprints for nova. I think it would definitely be valuable to have someone else who has read all of the blueprints | 21:53 |
| jaypipes | vishy: absolutely. I've read a number of them. I will try to get all of them read by this weekend. | 21:53 |
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