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| * ttx waves | 20:59 | |
| dendrobates | o/ | 20:59 |
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| soren | o/ | 20:59 |
| glenc | holá | 20:59 |
| spectorclan_ | 0/ | 20:59 |
| pvo | \o | 21:00 |
| westmaas_ | /o/ | 21:00 |
| ttx | oook, let's get started ! | 21:00 |
| ttx | #startmeeting | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 8 21:00:47 2011 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:00 |
| ttx | Welcome everyone to our weekly team meeting... | 21:01 |
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| ttx | Today's agenda is at: | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:01 |
| * ttx checks for late additions | 21:01 | |
| sirp_ | howdy | 21:01 |
| jaypipes | yo. | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting" | 21:01 | |
| ttx | * pvo to readjust prios for xs-resize and xs-migration: DONE | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic Current release stage: Development | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current release stage: Development" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | We are 9 days from BranchMergeProposalFreeze (March 17). | 21:02 |
| ttx | Your branches should be proposed by then, so that we have the time to properly review and merge them before FeatureFreeze (March 24). | 21:02 |
| ttx | That only affects "feature" branches, not bugfix branches. | 21:02 |
| ttx | Any questions on that stage ? | 21:03 |
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| jaypipes | not from me. | 21:04 |
| ttx | ok, moving on. | 21:04 |
| ttx | #topic Cactus Release status | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cactus Release status" | 21:04 | |
| ttx | Please check: | 21:04 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/ | 21:04 |
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| ttx | Note that we have a few significant Nova BMPs (branch merge proposals) coming up that are not reflected in the plan: | 21:04 |
| ttx | openstack-api-volumes, authn_and_authz, constraint-scheduler... | 21:04 |
| ttx | I guess that brings up a question. | 21:05 |
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| ttx | We have lots of planned features that won't get delivered due to lack of resources... | 21:05 |
| ttx | And ~100 open bugs in a release focused on stability... and yet we have unplanned features proposed for landing. | 21:05 |
| ttx | Are we (as a project) doing something wrong ? | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | and lots of branches proposed for things that *aren't* in the proposed release... | 21:05 |
| ttx | Is it difficult to predict every three months the features we'll want to land during the short feature merge window we have ? | 21:06 |
| ttx | Is it a consequence of not having a design summit at the start of the cycle, so we miss a catalyst ? | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | ttx: no, frankly, I think people are just working on whatever they want to regardless of whether it's in the release plan for Cactus or not. Sorry if I'm being blunt here. | 21:06 |
| ttx | Or is it that we are lazy to wait/defer them to the next cycle ? | 21:06 |
| justinsb | I think you're addressing the #1 problem, which is not having a decision maker on each project | 21:06 |
| dendrobates | I think we are suffering from different groups having different priorities | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | yes | 21:06 |
| jaypipes | on both dendrobates and justinsb | 21:07 |
| pvo | dendrobates: ++ | 21:07 |
| soren | Yeah. There's a clear disconnect between the priorities set on the blueprints and the actual priorities of the various development teams. | 21:07 |
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| dendrobates | I don't mean on blueprints | 21:07 |
| soren | Well, that's relevant, too. | 21:07 |
| soren | Since that's what is publically "known". | 21:07 |
| ttx | dendrobates: how do you see us fixing this ? Having a plan is quite essential to communicating what we are doing outside the project | 21:07 |
| soren | Where "known" really means "thought". | 21:08 |
| jaypipes | ttx: there *is* a plan. it's been a plan since the summit. it's that a number of folks aren't particularly interested in that plan. | 21:08 |
| soren | I suppose it's a question whether the priorities of blueprints should be definitive or descriptive. | 21:08 |
| dendrobates | we need to enforce it | 21:08 |
| ttx | otherwise our Nova releases look like a collection of loosely-coupled merges that happened to land during that month | 21:08 |
| jaypipes | ttx: yep. | 21:08 |
| dendrobates | we need the will and the power to enforce it plan | 21:09 |
| dendrobates | 'the' plan | 21:09 |
| ttx | we need the will to act as a united project, that takes strong leadership, and meritocracy should help | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: as an example, I'd like to see some of your branches go through, but I'm having a tough time seeing how any of them fit into the declared release plan for Cactus. | 21:09 |
| justinsb | jaypipes: Well, they bring testing of the APIs | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: yes, the one does. | 21:10 |
| ttx | soren: so far priorities on the blueprints mean how much nagging I apply to get updated status | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: but it's not clear how many of the others fit. | 21:10 |
| justinsb | jaypipes: Let's discuss the details off each branch offline | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: and I'm not just picking on you, please don't back away. the same can be said of the authn/authz brnach proposed. | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | we should focus in the future | 21:11 |
| dendrobates | what do we need to do to not have these problems | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: well, is the root cause bad planning or bad execution? | 21:11 |
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| justinsb | I think all we need is someone who is responsible for delivering the project's goals. That's the project technical lead, in my book. We need them yesterday, (or 9 months ago) IMHO | 21:11 |
| ttx | ok, I guess the next summit will be essential for that. With the new PTLs and all that | 21:11 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I'd say both | 21:12 |
| ttx | with the same root cause | 21:12 |
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| soren | justinsb: I just don't see how that will work. It's not like they can actually manage the people working on stuff. | 21:12 |
| dendrobates | without the authority to enforce the goals the ptl's will be ineffective | 21:12 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: we've had that, however, there have been a number of political issues that have prevented that person from actually pushing forward a direction for Nova. | 21:12 |
| justinsb | jaypipes: Who has it been, and what were the issues? | 21:13 |
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| jaypipes | justinsb: dendrobates was the chief architect. | 21:13 |
| dendrobates | justinsb: it was me. | 21:13 |
| dendrobates | butg I have not been acting in that role for some time | 21:13 |
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| justinsb | Are there lessons to be learned from this experience for the PTL role? | 21:13 |
| dendrobates | probably not | 21:14 |
| pvo | should we figure these out at a summit? | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | justinsb: at this point, we have a number of teams (internal Rackers, OpenStack Rackers, Anso, NTT, etc) that are all basically doing their own thing. There isn't any technical lead that is pushing a concerted agenda, and I'm not sure that if there was one, that the teams would really care to follow a direction. | 21:14 |
| dendrobates | but I am extremely worried about the 6 month term for ptl | 21:14 |
| devcamcar | you know, i think something as simple as a weekly report to mailing list about current priorities, progress of blueprints, etc. would go a long way | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: that would be great. | 21:15 |
| devcamcar | just to keep everyone focused | 21:15 |
| sirp_ | devcamcar: ++ | 21:15 |
| alekibango | devcamcar: ++ | 21:15 |
| pvo | devcamcar: spectorclan_ was doing something like this for a short time | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: but sorry, that's really what blueprints and bug statuses are for. | 21:15 |
| dendrobates | pvo: yes, I think we should have a long discussion at the summit | 21:15 |
| ttx | devcamcar: I can certainly do that. That duplicates a bit the info I'm giving at the meeting | 21:16 |
| ttx | anyway, we won't solve it now. For cactus we'll have to rely on nova-core to filter the proposals | 21:16 |
| spectorclan_ | I can do something more project specific to what I have been doing | 21:16 |
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| devcamcar | pvo: yea spectorclan_ was doing the higher level number of commits and stuff, and that is good info. i think something a bit more specific to developers within the project, just something to push priorities in front of eyeballs | 21:16 |
| ttx | food for thought. definitely something to raise while we can pay people beers. | 21:16 |
| spectorclan_ | OK, will look into it with ttx | 21:16 |
| eday | also, we may need to rethink our methods. obviously a 6 month summit + 3 month blueprint proposal/approves are not able to encapsulate what people are doing. before trying to enforce the current system, we may need to rethink the system | 21:16 |
| devcamcar | sweet | 21:16 |
| dendrobates | eday: +1 | 21:17 |
| dragondm | true | 21:17 |
| eday | also, afaik, swift/glance seem to be fine, it's really just nova | 21:17 |
| ttx | #action ttx and spectorclan_ to look at providing weekly focus ML post | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | eday: there's 10 times as many people working on Nova... to be fair. | 21:17 |
| alekibango | eday: +1 | 21:17 |
| devcamcar | jaypipes: i'm not saying we create a bunch of overhead, just basically a report of current status of the blueprints, just the text thats already there in a prioritized list | 21:17 |
| devcamcar | that goes to the list | 21:17 |
| dragondm | probably because nova has such a wide scope | 21:17 |
| eday | jaypipes: yup, which is part of the thing we need to address :) | 21:17 |
| ttx | eday: also glance and swift do not suffer from the "multiple groups" syndrome | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: you mean http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/? | 21:18 |
| eday | jaypipes: in other words, out system doesn't scale to a project of nova's size | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: my point being is that if people are just working on whatever, completely outside of blueprints and bug reports, it's almost impossible to tell what's going on. | 21:18 |
| devcamcar | jaypipes: it could be as simple as that, if it were pushed to the list once a week | 21:18 |
| dendrobates | we need to discuss all of this at the summit | 21:18 |
| devcamcar | jaypipes: true, but at least this way we can reinforce the priorities so people are more aware that they're outside scope | 21:19 |
| eday | dendrobates: ++, nothing will be solved in IRC | 21:19 |
| ttx | ok, let's close it for now | 21:19 |
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| justinsb | It's an open source project: people will scratch their own itch | 21:19 |
| justinsb | You don't have to merge it | 21:19 |
| alekibango | scalable development of scalable cloud system :) .... thats endless fight against ever increasing entropy! | 21:19 |
| ttx | Like I said, we'll rely on nova-core to DTRT | 21:19 |
| justinsb | But anyone can fork if they don't like the direction you're taking the project in | 21:19 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: sure, at the summit, but in the meantime we've now got a backlog of reviews for branches that aren't in the release plan and don't have any blueprints tied to them. Specifically what are reviewers to do? | 21:20 |
| alekibango | justinsb: people would love to have common standard. forking is bad | 21:20 |
| justinsb | Forking is bad, which is why it's important to get the direction right and have a good leader that aligns everyone | 21:20 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: so we need criteria for rejecting merges? | 21:20 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I would prioritize reviews of planned stuff over unplanned stuff | 21:20 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: no, we need someone to say "sorry this is not in Cactus. Deferred to Diablo." Period. | 21:20 |
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| dragondm | IMHO, all merges need a bp or bug associated. | 21:21 |
| dendrobates | the first step is to reject the merge | 21:21 |
| glenc | +1 | 21:21 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I can enforce that once we hit the freezes... before that, must be nova-core | 21:21 |
| devcamcar | i think it would be helpful for the core teams to meet on irc once a week for discussing branches and whether they meet criteria | 21:21 |
| devcamcar | something more granular | 21:21 |
| jaypipes | and I'm not talking about justinsb's branches alone here... there's lots of stuff. and some of justinsb branches ARE in plan... | 21:21 |
| justinsb | jaypipes: I'm fine for the constraint scheduler to target diablo | 21:22 |
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| eday | or perhaps we just need to break on of justinsb's hands to slow his hacking/mps down :) | 21:22 |
| justinsb | eday: :-) | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | we need to figure out where the decision can and should be made | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | as a practical example of what has happened because of the chaos: we now are in a situation where masumotok_'s team's live migration patches have received less attention that they deserve, and it looks like we are heading down the same path we hit in January... | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | at review time is not ideal | 21:23 |
| ttx | jaypipes: right, extraneous BMPs just dilute our focus | 21:23 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I think it's acceptable for nova-core to reject unplanned stuff | 21:24 |
| * jaypipes acknowledges justinsb has a freakish hacking pace indeed. | 21:24 | |
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| ttx | jaypipes: I'll ecrtainly not grant any release exception to unplanned stuff | 21:24 |
| dragondm | we also need more reviewers. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | ttx: it's more the delay/chaos it creates for the planned stuff that has become an issue. | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | it should be rejected and sent to another another queue to decide if it should be included in the release | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | dragondm: or we need all nova-core reviewers to be reviweing ;) | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | soren: whatever happened to that review days thing? | 21:25 |
| ttx | we won't solve it now. I'd raise a thread about review focus for nova-core dudes that tackles that issue | 21:26 |
| dragondm | yes. reviewers == *active* reviewers. | 21:26 |
| soren | jaypipes: It started yesterday. | 21:26 |
| ttx | jaypipes: feeling up to it ? | 21:26 |
| soren | jaypipes: It took a while to get people to respond. | 21:26 |
| jaypipes | ttx: sure | 21:26 |
| soren | jaypipes: I failed to announce it, though. :( | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | ttx: though I hate to keep coming across as the slavedriver... | 21:27 |
| pvo | soren: consider it announced! ;P | 21:27 |
| soren | jaypipes: But that's only because I suck. | 21:27 |
| ttx | #action jaypipes to raise a ML thread about review focus for nova-core | 21:27 |
| ttx | jaypipes: you prefer to leave te stick with me :P | 21:27 |
| devcamcar | soren: what does "it started yesterday" mean? :) | 21:27 |
| ttx | ok, we need to move on | 21:27 |
| alekibango | soren: btw i would rather make quota for weekly reviews for core members. like 4 reviews for week or something like that... | 21:27 |
| ttx | Completion rate, based on the current data: | 21:28 |
| jaypipes | ttx: no, I'll do it. | 21:28 |
| soren | devcamcar: It means that it was my review day yesterday. It's someone else today. | 21:28 |
| ttx | Essential specs: | 21:28 |
| ttx | Glance: 3 completed, 1 proposed | 21:28 |
| soren | devcamcar: http://wiki.openstack.org/Nova/ReviewDays | 21:28 |
| ttx | Nova: 1 in progress | 21:28 |
| ttx | Tushar: how far cactus-flatmanager-ipv6-support is from being proposed ? | 21:28 |
| ttx | High specs: | 21:28 |
| ttx | Glance: 1 proposed, 1 deferred | 21:28 |
| ttx | Nova: 4 implemented, 2 started, 2 in jeopardy, 1 not started and 1 deferred | 21:29 |
| ttx | Other specs: | 21:29 |
| ttx | 12 implemented, 6 proposed, 9 in progress, 10 not started and 1 deferred | 21:29 |
| ttx | Given the number of "not started", I suspect there are a few specs we already know we won't be able to deliver in time... | 21:29 |
| ttx | Does anyone want to raise a flag about a spec not likely to be completed in time ? | 21:29 |
| cynb | yes | 21:29 |
| dendrobates | let's start deferring them, if they are not going to make it | 21:30 |
| ttx | (one that isn't already marked Slow Progress / Deferred on http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/) | 21:30 |
| jaypipes | cynb: which one? | 21:30 |
| ttx | dendrobates: done already | 21:30 |
| cynb | error codes... | 21:30 |
| cynb | system usage records | 21:30 |
| cynb | xs-guest-agent | 21:30 |
| cynb | xs-ovs | 21:30 |
| ttx | cynb: in jeopardy, or already deferred ? | 21:30 |
| cynb | bexar-distributed scheduler (already deferred) | 21:31 |
| cynb | deferred - correct me if i'm wrong | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | dragondm: ^^ | 21:31 |
| ttx | xs-ovs still ahd a chance, according to antonym today | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | dragondm: system usage records to be deferred? ok with that? | 21:31 |
| dragondm | yup. | 21:31 |
| ttx | hence the "slow progress" status | 21:31 |
| jaypipes | ttx: defer on system usage records. | 21:32 |
| ttx | #action ttx to update status on cynb's deferred spec list if nobody beats him to it | 21:32 |
| justinsb | I'll take on the distributed scheduler if you want | 21:33 |
| ttx | #action ttx to sync with Tushar on cactus-flatmanager-ipv6-support status | 21:33 |
| ericrw | I'm preparing to suggest a merge of my execvp patch (bug: 726359). I should have it ready by freeze, but it touches a lot of stuff and I want to make sure it is well tested before it goes into a release. | 21:33 |
| soren | Looking forward to it! | 21:33 |
| ttx | ericrw: cool | 21:33 |
| ttx | On the Nova stabilization effort: | 21:33 |
| eday | justinsb: it needs the zone dependencies too, which may not be ready in time | 21:33 |
| ttx | Last week we had 36 bugs opened and 29 fixes committed | 21:33 |
| ttx | This week we had 16 bugs opened and 10 fixes committed | 21:34 |
| ttx | That's a big drop, maybe the proximity of BMPFreeze made people concentrate on feature work... | 21:34 |
| justinsb | eday: Well, I could take that one on as well, but I think zones3 looks good | 21:34 |
| * jaypipes notes last week he had a 3 day jury trial. this week he doesn't. big drop in jury trials. | 21:34 | |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: did they find you guilty? | 21:35 |
| eday | justinsb: sandy and dabo are actively working on them, so might ask them if they need help | 21:35 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: nah, got off by reason of insanity ;) | 21:35 |
| ttx | eday, justinsb: I think the problem is more that other stuff needs to land first | 21:35 |
| eday | ttx: yeah | 21:35 |
| dabo | eday: it's really in flux right now. Much depends on the multi-cluster/zones stuff, and the possible adoption of a central db | 21:36 |
| ttx | eday, justinsb: not really that they need help or resources | 21:36 |
| ewanmellor | ttx: Regarding xs-ovs you said "waiting on OVS support from Citrix". What does that mean? | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | cynb: re: the error codes one, did you know Naveed had a branch proposed for merging? https://code.launchpad.net/~ironcamel/nova/http-error-codes/+merge/52492 | 21:36 |
| westmaas_ | I think those are different error codes. | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | ah. | 21:36 |
| Tushar | ttx:I have almost finished implementation of flatManager for IPV6. Most probably I will propose my branch for merge early next week. | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | westmaas_: wanna ping Naveed on that? ;) | 21:36 |
| ttx | ewanmellor: antonym told me he was in contact with Citrix to get OVS support in XenServer, and that was needed to implement this psec | 21:37 |
| ttx | ewanmellor: I don't really know more than that. | 21:37 |
| antonym | ewanmellor: we ran into some issues with the beta drop from citrix that we're working through, we can start coding the script up but we're trying to get ovs working so we can actually test out functionality | 21:37 |
| westmaas_ | haha I can. I know what Naveed's are, I will check in with cynb right after this :) | 21:37 |
| ttx | Tushar: ok, thanks | 21:37 |
| jaypipes | westmaas_: cheers mate | 21:37 |
| ttx | ok, moving on to the next topic in 15 seconds | 21:38 |
| ttx | #topic Elections coming up | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Elections coming up" | 21:38 | |
| ttx | spectorclan: floor is yours | 21:38 |
| spectorclan_ | Nomination Process at http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/03/openstack-governance-nominations-and-election-process/; open until March 18 at Midnight CST | 21:38 |
| ewanmellor | ttx, antonym: Will follow up on this offline. | 21:38 |
| antonym | ewanmellor: sure thing | 21:39 |
| spectorclan_ | If you want to be nominated or self-nominated, contact me or post yourself at http://etherpad.openstack.org/Spring2011-Elections | 21:39 |
| spectorclan_ | We already have 2 people listed for SWIFT | 21:39 |
| spectorclan_ | I will also be posting the election process later this week as there are rules for who can vote for each of the positions | 21:39 |
| ttx | spectorclan: will we know who owns the 4 RS-nominated seats on the PPB before or after voting ? | 21:40 |
| spectorclan_ | Will find that our for you; as of now I do not know | 21:40 |
| soren | What happens if the PTL elected is already on the PPB? | 21:40 |
| dendrobates | spectorclan: the voting needs to be completely transparent and the results available immediately after the voting ends | 21:40 |
| spectorclan_ | All voting will be done in public via the tool that ttx suggested | 21:41 |
| pvo | spectorclan_: what tool is that? | 21:41 |
| ttx | That's http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html | 21:41 |
| soren | CIVS, probably. | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | spectorclan: there are still options | 21:41 |
| spectorclan_ | yes | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | and it was not done correctly last time | 21:41 |
| * jaypipes hopes he spelled vishy's name right ... | 21:41 | |
| ttx | spectorclan: you just need to pick "results goes to everyone, not a selected group" | 21:41 |
| spectorclan_ | My plan is to make sure there are no issues and everyone is pleased with process. That is why I am posting all process stuff ahead of time for comment and changes | 21:42 |
| spectorclan_ | Thanks ttx, will do | 21:42 |
| dendrobates | soren: it is an obvious fail, the ptl needed to be elected first | 21:42 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: appreciated. thx :) | 21:42 |
| ttx | spectorclan: that's the default choice | 21:42 |
| spectorclan_ | I am open to all suggestions on tools and process | 21:42 |
| soren | dendrobates: Yeah. Failing that though, I wonder what the resolution process is. | 21:42 |
| ttx | soren: the case is already described in the governance | 21:43 |
| soren | ttx: orly? | 21:43 |
| ttx | soren: PTL gets on PPB, next PPB winner gets a seat | 21:43 |
| spectorclan_ | I will explain that issue in the Election Process blog post | 21:43 |
| soren | ttx: Ah. Neat. | 21:43 |
| dendrobates | spectorclan: please send it to the mailing list | 21:44 |
| justinsb | Surely the real debate is on who gets a vote, not on the tool we use. The former will determine the outcome, after all... | 21:44 |
| dendrobates | spectorclan: you will find that you miss a large part of the community with blog posts | 21:44 |
| ttx | justinsb: hopefully. | 21:44 |
| spectorclan_ | dendrobates: ok, will do that next time, thanks | 21:44 |
| ttx | spectorclan: anything else you wanted to mention ? | 21:44 |
| pvo | justinsb: it is just as much about the transparency of the elections as the candidates | 21:44 |
| spectorclan_ | Yes,,, | 21:44 |
| spectorclan_ | Design Summit Registration site expected this week; waiting... | 21:45 |
| spectorclan_ | on the Rackspace event team to get all the credit card processing in order | 21:45 |
| spectorclan_ | Developer party is looking like Dave and Buster's but we are still waiting for other places to get back to us | 21:45 |
| justinsb | pvo: Why is one-vote-per-company less valid than one-vote-per-committer ? :-) | 21:45 |
| spectorclan_ | ttx: that's enough from me for the day; I hope | 21:46 |
| pvo | justinsb: ?? not what I was saying at all.... | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:47 |
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| justinsb | pvo: It's just that everything else is a bit of a red herring! But maybe I misunderstood your point! | 21:47 |
| dendrobates | I've got something | 21:47 |
| dendrobates | This is my last meeting as a rackspace employee | 21:47 |
| dendrobates | I resigned rackspace and accepted a position at cisco | 21:48 |
| jaypipes | congrats, dendrobates. well, on the new job part... | 21:48 |
| dendrobates | I will still be working on openstack | 21:48 |
| spectorclan_ | Congrats! | 21:48 |
| dendrobates | even more so | 21:48 |
| dendrobates | I no longer have the conflict of interest of working at rackspace | 21:49 |
| ewanmellor | dendrobates: Congrats! Will you still be chief benevolent dictator? | 21:49 |
| dendrobates | so, if I think we RS is doing something wrong, I am free to speak | 21:49 |
| ttx | ewanmellor: that position no longer exists in the new governance | 21:49 |
| ttx | ewanmellor: a bit dissolved into PTLs. | 21:50 |
| dendrobates | ewanmellor: I'll still be aroundm, you guys will decide my role | 21:50 |
| dendrobates | I'll do my review days though | 21:50 |
| dendrobates | cisco is building an openstack dev team, btw | 21:51 |
| tr3buchet | interesting | 21:51 |
| dendrobates | ha | 21:52 |
| dendrobates | I'm not trolling for rackers. :) | 21:52 |
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| eday | For folks not following the ML, burrow (queue service) is switching to Python (from Erlang). C/C++ will be used when optimizations are needed. See ML thread for details. | 21:53 |
| ttx | anything else, anyone ? | 21:53 |
| dendrobates | eday: woohoo | 21:54 |
| devcamcar | also for folks using openstack-dashboard / django-nova, the django-nova repo has been decommissioned and both projects are rolled up into the openstack-dashboard repo. the components are still separate but this makes administration much easier | 21:54 |
| ttx | devcamcar: +1 | 21:54 |
| ttx | ok, let's close this one | 21:55 |
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| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 8 21:55:25 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-08-21.00.html | 21:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-08-21.00.txt | 21:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-03-08-21.00.log.html | 21:55 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone for attending ! | 21:55 |
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| jaypipes | devcamcar: ++ :) | 21:56 |
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