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| dendrobates | o/ | 20:59 |
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| jaypipes | dendrobates: yo. | 21:00 |
| dendrobates | Welcome everyone | 21:00 |
| dendrobates | I'll wait a few minutes for everyone to arrive. | 21:00 |
| ttx | o__ | 21:00 |
| zul | gday | 21:01 |
| dendrobates | welcome canonafolk | 21:01 |
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| dendrobates | #startmeeting | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 21 21:02:14 2010 UTC. The chair is dendrobates. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 21:02 |
| dendrobates | The agenda is here: | 21:02 |
| dendrobates | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 21:02 |
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| dendrobates | sirp1: just in time. | 21:02 |
| dendrobates | #topic Glance Status | 21:02 |
| sirp1 | so, ill start by giving a quick background in case you guys aren't familar | 21:03 |
| sirp1 | glance is the overarching project for two components: the a) caching image proxy (nicknamed Teller) and b) the image registry (nicknamed Parallax) | 21:04 |
| soren | o/ | 21:04 |
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| sirp1 | right now not much exists for either; a minimal framework to get started was just merged in (still needs gundlach's recomendations taken into account) | 21:05 |
| sirp1 | and _0x44 is working on the Swift Backend | 21:05 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: is it reasonable to expect Glance for Austin? Could additional resources be useful to you? | 21:06 |
| sirp1 | no work started yet on parallax, but for the austin release that should be pretty trivial, we just need to expose a registry (possibly backed using the ORM merge from nova) and exposed through a wsgi we service | 21:06 |
| dendrobates | FF == 9 days | 21:07 |
| dendrobates | for the record. | 21:07 |
| sirp1 | jaypipes: additional resources would be much appreciated as im pretty swamped on RS internal stuff right now (and for the forseesable future) | 21:07 |
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| jaypipes | sirp1: I'm about 70% complete on the NoSQL driver for the new datastore backend. Should be finished tomorrow. I can help. | 21:08 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: awesome. | 21:09 |
| sirp1 | jaypipes: excellent | 21:09 |
| dendrobates | I know that chmouel was looking for something as well. | 21:09 |
| dendrobates | maybe he can help. | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: I'll work with you offline on some reasonable blueprints to get done by Austin for Glance. | 21:09 |
| sirp1 | the goals of glance for austin were pretty modest, so i think we could still get it in, but more resources will be needed | 21:09 |
| jaypipes | k | 21:09 |
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| sirp1 | jaypipes: good deal | 21:09 |
| sirp1 | #done glance update | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | ok, I think that covers that | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | #topic Blueprint status | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | I would like each person who is assigned a blueprint to give us a quick update. | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | We will be doing this in every future release meeting. | 21:10 |
| dendrobates | The object is to know status, not put you on the spot. | 21:10 |
| gundlach | link to blueprint list? | 21:11 |
| dendrobates | If the status has not changed since the last meeting feel free just to say, "no change" | 21:11 |
| pvo | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova ? | 21:11 |
| dendrobates | Here is the list: | 21:11 |
| dendrobates | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/austin | 21:11 |
| pvo | ah, that one is better | 21:11 |
| creiht | dendrobates: it is likely that we will have to drop large file support for the austin release in swift | 21:11 |
| dendrobates | In the future I will make sure to include swift. | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | #info jaypipes 70% complete on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/austin-nosql-datastore-adapter | 21:11 |
| soren | Hm... It seems completed blueprints vanish off that list. | 21:11 |
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| gundlach | i can go next, since openstack-api is second. it's assigned to todd but i think i kind of took it over | 21:12 |
| dendrobates | creiht: ok, good to know. | 21:12 |
| creiht | dendrobates: otherwise everything else on swift is on track | 21:12 |
| gundlach | #info getting worried about api. getting EC2 off of Tornado took way longer than expected, mostly due to merge headaches. | 21:12 |
| gundlach | it's off now, but all of Servers remains to be done, and cerberus has been too swamped w/ RS stuff to attack that yet | 21:13 |
| gundlach | if anybody (eday?) would like to split Servers up w/ me & cerberus it would be great | 21:13 |
| dendrobates | eday: how about it? | 21:13 |
| _cerberus_ | There is *some* progress on the servers API, but not as much as I'd like. | 21:13 |
| * gundlach wasn't clear: "all of Servers remains" means that the RS API /servers endpoint doesn't exist yet | 21:13 | |
| eday | dendrobates, gundlach: Yeah, I'm helping with some API cleanup right now, and can help with those other bits | 21:13 |
| soren | I may be able to grab some of it. I've never done REST API's before, though. | 21:14 |
| dendrobates | gundlach: with the extra help, is API at risk? | 21:14 |
| gundlach | soren, the frontend can be taken care of -- it's the mapping of e.g. reboot() function to whatever the backned bits of Nova are required to actually reboot -- that kind of thing | 21:14 |
| gundlach | dendrobates: lemme pass that to cerberus, since he has a better feeling for the scope of servers. cerberus? | 21:15 |
| dendrobates | pvo: any chance of freeing up RS resources to push toward FF? | 21:15 |
| gundlach | you had mentioned changes-since maybe needing to drop? | 21:15 |
| soren | gundlach: That part I feel pretty confident about. | 21:15 |
| pvo | dendrobates: I'm working on that right now | 21:15 |
| gundlach | soren: great, then potentially let's add you to the 4-way meeting where cerberus eday you and i split up tasks :) | 21:15 |
| eday | gundlach, soren, _cerberus_: I'm guessing between the four of us we can crank it out pretty quickly | 21:15 |
| dendrobates | cererus isn't here | 21:15 |
| dendrobates | there he is | 21:16 |
| _cerberus_ | eday: Most likely | 21:16 |
| gundlach | _cerberus_: with the extra help, is the API at risk in your opinion? anything you think will still need to be dropped? | 21:16 |
| dendrobates | soren: what is the status of your 25 other blueprints, do you have time? | 21:16 |
| _cerberus_ | I don't believe anything is necessarily at risk, no | 21:16 |
| soren | dendrobates: Done. | 21:16 |
| soren | dendrobates: So yes. | 21:16 |
| soren | :) | 21:16 |
| _cerberus_ | We've made good progress so far | 21:16 |
| _cerberus_ | Extra help is always appreciated | 21:17 |
| gundlach | cool. i'll email you/soren/eday to start talking about splitting up tasks | 21:17 |
| soren | dendrobates: Well, the last three are still awaiting review, but otherwise done. | 21:17 |
| dendrobates | are any of the anso guys here? | 21:17 |
| soren | dendrobates: Last three branches, that is. Not blueprints, obviously. | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | OK, so some action items out of this? grr, that sounds so very Deloitte and Touche. | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: no, I pinged vishy to join us on the main chan. | 21:18 |
| dendrobates | #action soren to be added to gundlach's 4way | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | hmm, that doesn't sounds quite right ;) | 21:18 |
| soren | It doesn't, no. | 21:18 |
| * gundlach pointedly ignores the innuendo | 21:18 | |
| soren | And now it's recorded for eternity. | 21:18 |
| jaypipes | #action jaypipes, sirp1 tackle blueprints for Austin's Glance. Split up between 2. | 21:19 |
| soren | Oh, well. I'm sure there's worse stuff out there about me. | 21:19 |
| gundlach | #action gundlach to FU w/ cerberus eday soren to get tasks split up | 21:19 |
| dendrobates | the anso guys sent some update privately that I have not had time to summarize | 21:19 |
| dendrobates | due to an extended debate with swardley on twitter :( | 21:20 |
| dendrobates | I will send, or get them to send updates to the list. | 21:20 |
| dendrobates | in the future, if you cannot attend, please send me a quick status by email | 21:20 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: be a lover, not a fighter. ;) | 21:20 |
| dendrobates | Also, it would be very helpful if you would go into launchpad and update the status, before each meeting, if necessary | 21:21 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: it is very difficult to argue in 140 char | 21:21 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: :) | 21:21 |
| dendrobates | #topic Bexar Design Summit prep | 21:21 |
| dendrobates | At the upcoming design summit we will be discussing and specing out work for two 3 month releases. | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: I sent out a reminder to update blueprints/bugs to the ML. Would be best if you did that on Mondays I think. | 21:22 |
| dendrobates | I need everyone to be thinking of what they want in openstack in ~April 2011. | 21:22 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: I know. It's on my list | 21:22 |
| dendrobates | We need blueprints created for each feature so we can schedule sessions to discuss them. | 21:22 |
| jaypipes | sparkycollier, spectorclan: any update on summit stuff? | 21:22 |
| dendrobates | We are trying to document the process. | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Process | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: ther will be soon | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: I'm happy to put blueprints together. | 21:23 |
| spectorclan | jaypipes: i am meeting with folks on Thursday to finalize much of plan external to agenda | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | We will be doing this summit differently than the first one. The sessions will be smaller and more technical. | 21:23 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: ++ cool. | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | We will have multiple sessions running simultaneously. | 21:23 |
| dendrobates | So you will need to pick the ones that interest you. Launchpad will let you register interest in a blueprint or make yourself mandatory. | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | #agreed | 21:24 |
| spectorclan | jaypipes: party just for developers Thursday night is a go! | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: :) | 21:24 |
| soren | :( | 21:24 |
| * soren leaves Thursday morning | 21:24 | |
| dendrobates | It will be very helpful if you make use of this, it will help us schedule the sessions. | 21:24 |
| spectorclan | soren: we do have a party first night for everyone | 21:24 |
| jaypipes | soren: then just get drunk on the plane. :P | 21:24 |
| dendrobates | soren: has too many weddings to attend | 21:24 |
| soren | I'll get drunk Wednesday night. You can all watch. | 21:24 |
| dendrobates | We need to have a basic idea of what we will be producing over the next six months. | 21:25 |
| zul | soren: been there done that | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | It is not necessary to target a specific release yet, we can prioritize the list after the summit discussions. | 21:25 |
| soren | zul: :) | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | Blueprints are not limited to features, we can have tracks to discuss community, governance, documentation, process. | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | Basically anything we need to talk about as a group. | 21:25 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | any questions? | 21:25 |
| dendrobates | ok | 21:26 |
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| dendrobates | this may be our first quick meeting | 21:26 |
| vishy | hey all: sorry i'm late | 21:26 |
| dendrobates | np | 21:26 |
| vishy | we had a mandatory building emergency meeting | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | vishy: no worries. | 21:27 |
| dendrobates | can you give us updates on the anso blueprints? | 21:27 |
| jaypipes | vishy: I thought you guys lived on the international space station? :P | 21:27 |
| dendrobates | #topic Blueprint II | 21:27 |
| dendrobates | or the ones you are working on, at least? | 21:28 |
| dendrobates | are any at risk for not making feature freeze? | 21:28 |
| dendrobates | vishy: ? | 21:29 |
| pvo | reevacuated | 21:29 |
| dendrobates | so vishy is only listed on the orm refactor which is done. | 21:30 |
| dendrobates | We'll move on. | 21:30 |
| dendrobates | #topic Feature freeze | 21:30 |
| pvo | dendrobates: did you see anything about the other anso blueprints? | 21:30 |
| pvo | I only saw rescue, guest agent and ajaxterm | 21:30 |
| vishy | dendrobates: i can update | 21:31 |
| dendrobates | there were some emails today | 21:31 |
| pvo | I didn't know if you saw anything for migrations and snapshots | 21:31 |
| dendrobates | #topic Blueprint II | 21:31 |
| vishy | anotherjesse is nearby | 21:31 |
| vishy | nothing pushed for migrations and snapshotting yet | 21:31 |
| dendrobates | pvo I did, but did not read completely yet. | 21:31 |
| pvo | thannks vishy | 21:32 |
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| dendrobates | vishy: does it look like migrations and snapshotting will make it by FF? | 21:32 |
| vishy | dendrobates: yes that is the plan | 21:32 |
| dendrobates | ok | 21:33 |
| dendrobates | #topic Feature freeze | 21:33 |
| dendrobates | Feature freeze is coming up quick. Just 9 days away and counting. | 21:33 |
| dendrobates | Please don't wait to merge your code until then. The more time we have for review the better. | 21:33 |
| dendrobates | By next Tuesday, if I haven't seen any merge request, do not be surprised to find your blueprint retargeted to the next release. | 21:34 |
| gundlach | could you define feature freeze for me again vs post-freeze-bug-fixing? | 21:34 |
| dendrobates | yes | 21:34 |
| dendrobates | the features have to be merged, but can be buggy | 21:34 |
| gundlach | e.g. if some aspect of servers is stubbed out but not complete, does that get axed? | 21:34 |
| dendrobates | bugs will be fixed and testing will be done | 21:35 |
| dendrobates | after FF | 21:35 |
| dendrobates | we will have a final freeze close to the release | 21:35 |
| gundlach | ok so in good faith we should assume FF represents code that is finished. we may find bugs, but we shouldn't *know* about missing functionality. | 21:35 |
| dendrobates | yes, but soren has experience getting around freezes, so I'd talk to him. | 21:35 |
| gundlach | heh ok | 21:36 |
| gundlach | hopefully we won't need to :) | 21:36 |
| dendrobates | it depends, if a blueprint is marked as essential, we might consider pushing the date if we can;t complete it. | 21:36 |
| soren | Heheh :) | 21:36 |
| * soren whistles innocently | 21:36 | |
| dendrobates | the release date that is | 21:36 |
| dendrobates | , but that would be major. | 21:37 |
| gundlach | kthx | 21:37 |
| dendrobates | If you have any questions or concerns please contact me. | 21:37 |
| dendrobates | any other release questions? | 21:37 |
| dendrobates | #topic Meeting time | 21:38 |
| dendrobates | Anyone want to complain? | 21:38 |
| jaypipes | nope. | 21:38 |
| * zul looks around for ninjas | 21:38 | |
| spectorclan | dendrobates:is this a fixed time every week? | 21:38 |
| dendrobates | yes | 21:38 |
| dendrobates | unless it isn;t | 21:38 |
| soren | I wouldn't mind if it were a bit earlier, but it's ok. | 21:39 |
| adjohn | good over here | 21:39 |
| dendrobates | spectorclan: we will reconsider it as necessary | 21:39 |
| zul | my wife and my kid wouldnt mind if it was a bit earlier as well | 21:39 |
| romain_lenglet | it's a good time for us in Tokyo | 21:39 |
| adjohn | any earlier would be pretty rough | 21:39 |
| dendrobates | #topic any other business? | 21:40 |
| dendrobates | anything anyone wants to talk about? | 21:40 |
| dendrobates | this is the first time we have finished early | 21:40 |
| creiht | lets not make it the last time :) | 21:40 |
| dendrobates | I will always try | 21:40 |
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| dendrobates | 4 | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | 3 | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | 2 | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | 1 | 21:41 |
| dendrobates | #endmeeting | 21:41 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 21 21:41:16 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:41 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-21-21.02.html | 21:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-21-21.02.txt | 21:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2010/openstack-meeting.2010-09-21-21.02.log.html | 21:41 |
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