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| lbragstad | #startmeeting poicy | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 26 16:01:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: poicy)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'poicy' | 16:01 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 26 16:02:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poicy/2017/poicy.2017-04-26-16.01.html | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | #startmeeting policy | 16:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poicy/2017/poicy.2017-04-26-16.01.txt | 16:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/poicy/2017/poicy.2017-04-26-16.01.log.html | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 26 16:02:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: policy)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'policy' | 16:02 |
| dstanek | o/ | 16:02 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 16:02 |
| samueldmq | hey o/ | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | we don't have anything on the agenda, but dstanek was talking to ayoung yesterday about the url based approach | 16:02 |
| lbragstad | i haven't had the chance to go back and parse that conversation yet, though | 16:03 |
| lbragstad | is johnthetubaguy around? | 16:03 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: so I do have a topic, that is agreement in the roadmap :-) | 16:04 |
| dstanek | lbragstad: this gist was that i think it enforces bad behavior of everyone knowing and baking URLs into things | 16:04 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq yeah - that's what we've been trying to work towards fora while :) | 16:05 |
| samueldmq | I have not been participating of all meetings, so I am sorry if I say things that are very well defined already | 16:05 |
| lbragstad | dstanek sorry to duplicate things, did you two reach consensus? | 16:05 |
| dstanek | not really :-) | 16:05 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: perfect, my concerns aren't specifically about the URL part or any particular bits, just the overview | 16:05 |
| edmondsw | dstanek and I thought you said you were coming around to his approach :) | 16:06 |
| lbragstad | since there is only a few of us, i suppose we could take this to a hangout | 16:06 |
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| dstanek | edmondsw: rbac in middleware....not the implementation that is proposed | 16:06 |
| edmondsw | gotcha | 16:06 |
| samueldmq | sorry for long text, but this is what I think: | 16:07 |
| edmondsw | dstanek did you have an alternative idea using middleware? | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | I am not against it at all, my issue is with the direction, because: | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | we need to make sure rbac in middleware and ongoing cross-project efforts go to the same direction | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | and if they're going, we will want to have role checks in the middleware and scope checks only in the code (service) | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | otherwise there will be duplication in the RBAC (both in code and middleware) and it does'nt make sense to me | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | ok, so, IF there is that agreement that role checks will only happen in the middleware and scope in the services | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | people MUST be aware that some complex rules that mix role+scope won't be possible anymore, because we're decoupling them into 2 separate stages. | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | that's all from me | 16:07 |
| samueldmq | otherwise we'll end up putting effort in something that won't be used | 16:07 |
| dstanek | i would have liked to see some cohesion between what we protect via rback, policy and what users need to know. to me 'service:operation' was it | 16:07 |
| lbragstad | is anyone opposed to using a hangout? | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | figured it would be easier to talk about this stuff than have to type it | 16:08 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: not sure my mic is working fine, but we can have a try. | 16:08 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad I'm fine with hangouts | 16:08 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: worst case my thoughts are just above ^ | 16:08 |
| lbragstad | #link https://hangouts.google.com/call/2tk2yazh7zgydmbhxidwf2u35yu | 16:09 |
| edmondsw | samueldmq's mic is working... join the hangout | 16:10 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:13 |
| lamt | o/ | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo lamt we are in the hangout | 16:13 |
| lbragstad | feel free to join :) | 16:13 |
| gagehugo | sure | 16:14 |
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| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 17:09 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 26 17:09:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-04-26-16.02.html | 17:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-04-26-16.02.txt | 17:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/policy/2017/policy.2017-04-26-16.02.log.html | 17:09 |
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