Thursday, 2017-04-06

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ildikov#startmeeting cinder-nova-api-changes16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  6 16:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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ildikovDuncanT ameade cFouts johnthetubaguy jaypipes takashin alaski e0ne jgriffith tbarron andrearosa hemna erlon mriedem gouthamr ebalduf patrickeast smcginnis diablo_rojo gsilvis  xyang1 raj_singh lyarwood breitz jungleboyj16:00
* johnthetubaguy lurks with intent16:00
jgriffitho/16:00
mriedemo/16:00
ildikovwe have a few folks on vacation this week, so we might not get more people16:01
ildikovwe have the detach refactor patch merged now and have the detach PoC up for review using the new detach flow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438750/16:02
ildikovlyarwood has one more refactor patch up to centralize the terminate and detach calls: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452181/16:03
ildikovmy first question here would be whether that's the direction we want or not?16:03
mriedemno16:05
mriedemwell,16:05
mriedemnova.compute.api has never called nova.virt.block_device before16:05
mriedemthat's a layer violation16:05
mriedemnova.virt has always been tied more to nova.compute.!api16:05
mriedemeven though i see we have nova.virt.hardware in nova.compute.api, gros16:05
mriedem*gross16:05
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mriedemidk, at this point i wouldn't hold up the new detach patch for the refactor16:06
jgriffithmriedem that's what I needed to hear ;)16:07
mriedemideally long term it's all centralized16:07
mriedembecause the copy/paste is not fun16:07
ildikovmriedem: fine with me too, at least we don't have to co-maintain a patch chain again which makes me happy at this point :)16:07
ildikovmriedem: +116:07
mriedemi feel like we're missing some things in the unit tests on the detach patch16:08
jgriffithmriedem in all honesty there's a bunch of things I'll need to add to that16:09
mriedemheh, yeah, because the tests are all changed to set attachment_id=None16:09
jgriffithunit tests included16:09
jgriffithI've just been out of the loop the past couple weeks16:09
mriedemthat's fine16:10
ildikovmriedem: yeah, as a first step we tried to keep the test suite clean and get a general ok to the direction and then finish16:10
mriedemi'll comment when i do a full review16:10
ildikovmriedem: cool, tnx!16:10
ildikovI think we're fine with detach for now unless there's something that seems to be problematic and should be discussed here16:11
mriedemyeah i think that's the goal right now, the detach patch,16:12
mriedemanything else we need to talk about?16:12
mriedemthere is something that came up in the spec review,16:12
mriedemif you're not tracking it,16:12
mriedemwhich is changes to grenade16:12
mriedemto make a volume attachment on the old side and preserve that through to the new side and then detach16:13
mriedemthat doesn't exist today16:13
mriedemso that's up for anyone to pick up if they want16:13
ildikovI don't think we went this deep so far on the meetings16:14
mriedemi'm happy to end the meeting :)16:14
ildikovsorry, I'm just thinking about the grenade case16:14
mriedemwe're nowhere near needing that yet16:14
mriedemit's just something that could be done in parallel16:15
ildikovok, then we're on the same page :)16:15
ildikovas until we kind of keep the old attachments and detach them with the old flow we should be ok16:15
ildikovanother thing around detach is the remove check_detach patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446671/16:16
ildikovjohnthetubaguy has concerns with that one16:17
johnthetubaguyhas he16:17
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: you don't have anymore after finding the BDM checks?16:17
johnthetubaguyI am less worried16:18
johnthetubaguyjust want to make sure we don't change the API behaviour16:18
ildikovbut you're still worried :)16:18
johnthetubaguyaround error handling16:18
ildikovI have some extra raise InvalidVolume lines in the patch for that one16:19
ildikovlike how we needed those for removing check_attach due to the error translations16:20
ildikovbut I can extend the commit message with info if that helps16:21
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: ^ ?16:23
johnthetubaguysorry, distracted16:26
johnthetubaguyI think more context in the commit message would be good16:26
ildikovok, I will add more info there16:27
ildikovanother one that just hangs is the Cinder v2 API deprecation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444253/16:28
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: mriedem: ^16:28
ildikovmarginal, but at least small and trivial16:29
johnthetubaguyis that all in the etherpad now?16:29
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: I think I added them, but will check16:29
mriedemhmm, i thought we had some plan around when we would deprecate cinder v2 usage16:29
mriedembut i'd have to check my notes16:29
mriedemhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/113063.html16:30
mriedem"Outside of  the session, Sean Dague suggested that Nova actually deprecate it's  usage of Cinder v2 starting in Pike too, and make Cinder v3 required for  Nova in Queens."16:30
mriedemhowever,16:30
mriedemthat side steps the issue of upgrades16:30
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: added the deprecation patch to the etherpad now, check_detach was there already16:30
mriedemand old attachments16:30
mriedemso if we deprecate cinder v2 usage in pike,16:31
mriedemand drop it in queens,16:31
mriedemthat means we have to have an upgrade plan to migrate old v2-created attachments to the v3 style16:31
mriedemwhich we punted on at the ptg16:31
mriedemand said we'd tackle that in queens16:31
ildikovmriedem: but v3 is the same as v2, dropping v2 does not mean we go up to 3.27 immediately16:31
ildikovor I'm missing something16:32
mriedemthat's true i guess16:32
mriedemwe can still call detach/terminate_connection with v316:32
mriedemon the v3.0 microversion yes?16:32
ildikovso until we don't add the microversion detection Nova just uses base v3, which is basically v216:32
ildikovmriedem: yes16:32
mriedemalright i feel better about that then16:32
ildikovmriedem: Nova is already configured to use v316:32
mriedemi know16:32
mriedemi just worry16:32
mriedemalways16:33
mriedemworried16:33
ildikovthe catalog_info patch merged and it's the old flow everywhere the old way16:33
ildikovmriedem: you can be relaxed about this one, piece of cake really16:33
mriedemok i'll take a look16:34
ildikovso don't make me worry about you're worrying too much :)16:34
ildikovmriedem: cool, tnx16:34
ildikovthis is mainly it from my side for today16:35
mriedemlet's end it16:36
ildikovok :)16:36
ildikovthanks everyone, let's look into the detach PoC until the next meeting and try to get that done16:37
ildikovI will be in Korea next week, no idea what time the meeting is there, but will try my best16:37
ildikovthank you all!16:38
ildikovhave a good day!16:38
ildikov#endmeeting16:39
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robcresswell#startmeeting keystone_horizon20:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  6 20:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is robcresswell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
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robcresswello/20:02
robcresswellAnyone about for meeting?20:02
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david-lyleo/20:12
robcresswell\o/20:13
robcresswelldavid-lyle: Think it might be worth postponing :)20:14
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david-lyleyeah, seems that way20:24
david-lylerobcresswell, close the meeting20:24
robcresswell#endmeeting20:25
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