Monday, 2016-11-07

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ildikov#startmeeting cinder-nova-api-changes17:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Nov  7 17:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder-nova-api-changes)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder_nova_api_changes'17:00
ildikovscottda ildikov DuncanT ameade cFouts johnthetubaguy jaypipes takashin alaski e0ne jgriffith tbarron andrearosa hemna erlon mriedem gouthamr ebalduf patrickeast smcginnis diablo_rojo gsilvis  xyang1 raj_singh lyarwood17:00
smcginniso/17:00
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ildikovsmcginnis: hi :)17:00
mriedemhangouts today?17:01
ildikovmriedem: that's the plan17:01
ildikovI asked hemna to help out to get it recorded, etc17:01
ildikovjgriffith: johnthetubaguy: are you around?17:01
jgriffitho/17:02
johnthetubaguyo/17:02
johnthetubaguydo we have the hangout link yet?17:03
* ildikov is looking at hemna now :)17:03
mriedemdoes it need to be recorded? ideally yes but if we have the people let's just get started.17:03
mriedemrecap later in the ML if needed17:03
ildikovmriedem: no, we just thought this is the best way of not loosing info and get people on track, who missed it17:04
ildikovhere's a link: https://hangouts.google.com/call/x5nrih3zinbvdbb66cqdvlnn2me17:04
* smcginnis is at a coffee shop and has no headphones so will catch up afterward...17:04
ildikovI'll try to get some notes while our experts talk17:05
smcginnisildikov: thanks!17:05
ildikov#info we are trying to figure out whether to go with v1 or v217:07
jgriffithlink to v2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387712/2/cinder/api/v3/attachments.py17:07
smcginnisDid we get a better understanding in BCN that v1 could work for Nova?17:08
ildikov#info it would be great having a more simpler approach17:09
ildikovsmcginnis: I don't think so17:09
scottdahi. Sorry, forgot about time change17:09
ildikovscottda: no worries17:09
ildikovscottda: we're having a Hangout today: https://hangouts.google.com/call/x5nrih3zinbvdbb66cqdvlnn2me17:10
ildikovv1 approach: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327408/17:11
ildikovsummit session etherpad: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-cinder-session17:12
ildikov#info reserve call remains as is17:13
ildikov#info it helps avoid races with multiple attach calls, etc.17:13
ildikov#info should we have a reserve that creates an attachment_id?17:15
ildikov#info the old or new version of the reserve call will get the instance_uuid as the Nova side has that the earliest17:17
ildikov#info in the new and shiny version of the proposal reserve will create the attachment record in Cinder and return the id17:19
ildikov#info regarding v1 and v2 John Garbutt thinks we need all the v2 calls17:19
mriedemhemna: we're all talking17:20
scottdawe can hear you hemna17:20
scottdaIt is you.17:20
scottdaWe are talking\17:20
smcginnisIt's not me, it's you? :)17:20
scottdaYou are talking at the same time17:20
hemnadangit17:20
hemnasorry!17:20
ildikovhemna: no worries17:20
ildikovhemna: blame Monday! :)17:21
hemnathat it is!17:22
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ildikov#info Nova can store additional info and handle locks to not have an attach, while we're detaching17:24
scottdahemna: We still hear you17:25
ildikov#info we need to shorten the window and have locks to eliminate races17:27
ildikov#info Cinder returns info about either safe to detach or the info about the driver whether it shares connection or not17:28
hemnaI cannot connect to the hangout and get audio17:29
hemna:(17:29
ildikovhemna: :S, I have no clue how to fix that17:29
hemnatrying a reboot :(17:30
hemnasafari works...chrome doesn't.17:37
ildikov#info locking needs to be done on Nova side, Nova gets all the info from Cinder that's needed17:47
ildikov#info if we have create_attachment, update_attachment and remove_attachment, we should not have reserve, let create handle the lock on Cinder side17:49
ildikov#info one attach at a time even in case of multiattach just to be safe17:49
ildikov#info after create, Nova sends the connection info to Cinder17:50
ildikov#info Cinder returns the info about shared or not shared connection, so Nova has the info for disconnect17:51
ildikov#info do not remove attachment from Cinder before disconnect17:51
ildikov#info Nova removes the attachments and calls disconnect when no further attachments remained17:53
ildikov#info live migrate: same instance_uuid but different hosts is enabled in Cinder17:54
ildikov#info we need both connections at the same time for making live migrate work17:54
ildikov#info John Garbutt works on live migrate flow and update the spec18:07
ildikov#info John Griffith updates v2 with the agreements from today's call on create/delete/update attachment18:08
* johnthetubaguy nods18:09
ildikovjohnthetubaguy: :)18:09
ildikov#info Ildiko handles meeting minutes and administration18:10
ildikovthank you! see you all this time next week!18:10
ildikov#endmeeting18:10
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Nov  7 18:10:43 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)18:10
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-11-07-17.00.html18:10
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-11-07-17.00.txt18:10
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder_nova_api_changes/2016/cinder_nova_api_changes.2016-11-07-17.00.log.html18:10
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