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| nikhil | anyone around for quota meeting? | 17:04 |
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| nikhil | Courtesy quotas-wg meeting reminder: nikhil, vilobhmm, DuncanT, mc_nair, ninag, amrith, sajeesh, Qijing,tbarron | 17:04 |
| sajeesh | hi nikhil | 17:04 |
| nikhil | hey | 17:04 |
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| nikhil | Let's start | 17:06 |
| nikhil | #startmeeting quotas-wg | 17:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 31 17:06:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nikhil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quotas-wg)" | 17:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quotas_wg' | 17:06 |
| nikhil | #topic agenda | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: quotas-wg)" | 17:06 | |
| nikhil | There's no formal agenda for today | 17:06 |
| nikhil | I will just jot down the plan for 3 weeks proposed by Vilobh earlier. | 17:06 |
| nikhil | and we can have the open discussion | 17:06 |
| nikhil | #topic plan for next 2-3 weeks | 17:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "plan for next 2-3 weeks (Meeting topic: quotas-wg)" | 17:06 | |
| * DuncanT waves | 17:07 | |
| nikhil | ohai DuncanT | 17:07 |
| nikhil | #1. Mysql driver (vilobh working on a prototype) | 17:07 |
| nikhil | #2. Tests (unit, functional) (need volunteers) | 17:07 |
| nikhil | #3.1 Docs (info from spec will go here when approved | 17:08 |
| nikhil | #3.2 generation-id documentation - how consuming projects should use/consume it; what changes the consuming project need to do to use delimiter | 17:08 |
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| nikhil | #4 Design (objects to be added to the lib, like resrouce and usage objects) (those that are missing) | 17:09 |
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| nikhil | itisha may have some cycles and I want here to help with testing. But the rest of the work is open floor if people wanted to pick and contribute. | 17:10 |
| DuncanT | 3.2 would be useful ASAP - without that it's really tricky to get an idea of impact | 17:10 |
| nikhil | ++ | 17:10 |
| sudipto | nikhil, I have an initial doc up on generation id here: https://review.openstack.org/323415 even though it's completely a WIP - that i added today and would have some more material tomorrow. | 17:10 |
| nikhil | Thanks to sudipto, it's now a WIP. | 17:10 |
| nikhil | #info gen_id documentation work in progress: https://review.openstack.org/323415 | 17:11 |
| DuncanT | I've not got any free cycles really, though I've got an experimental tree that cuts reservations out of the current cinder code as prep | 17:11 |
| DuncanT | sudipto: Awesome, thanks! | 17:11 |
| nikhil | DuncanT: that's interesting, any link for us to see? | 17:12 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, nikhil i plan to write 2-3 docs this week - 1. Gen id stuff. 2. about delimiter's data model 3. How other projects could consume it. Would love to hear about comments/reviews - to ensure I have the right idea about it :) | 17:12 |
| DuncanT | nikhil: Not yet, but I'll github it this week and post a link | 17:12 |
| nikhil | ah nice, thanks DuncanT | 17:13 |
| nikhil | any other comments/questions before we move to open discussion? | 17:13 |
| nikhil | sudipto: that's pretty awesome! | 17:13 |
| DuncanT | Time is not my friend at the moment :-( | 17:13 |
| nikhil | :) | 17:13 |
| sajeesh | sudipto:thanks... | 17:13 |
| nikhil | #topic open discussion | 17:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: quotas-wg)" | 17:14 | |
| nikhil | sudipto: do you mind giving us a tl;dr; of what's there for docs? | 17:14 |
| nikhil | (just to get some discussions started) | 17:14 |
| sudipto | you mean the review above or in general? | 17:15 |
| sudipto | nikhil, ^ | 17:15 |
| nikhil | sudipto: I meant in general | 17:15 |
| nikhil | (based on your research so far) | 17:16 |
| sudipto | nikhil, ok - basically - i think the docs should have those 3 citations i mentioned above. and most likely a project specific implementation detail... | 17:16 |
| sudipto | (ofcourse left to open discussions) | 17:17 |
| DuncanT | We need to add some scale tests to the plan fairly early on I think... what does the performance look like with 1k, 5k, 10k, 100k, 1M entities being tracked for quota | 17:17 |
| DuncanT | Need to find out if the cache-free approach actually scales... the cache was added for scaling reasons though I can't see any benchmarks done at the time | 17:18 |
| sudipto | It's also important for people to know - what the impact of this project will be... | 17:18 |
| sudipto | +1 DuncanT | 17:18 |
| nikhil | DuncanT: good point... I guess we need some dev testing env for this. I think we could so a bit of testing for glance but 1M entries might be a stretch .. | 17:19 |
| DuncanT | Can we write a fake service for testing? Just use delimiter to track widgets | 17:19 |
| DuncanT | I do cinder tests with 1M fake db entries now, it's trivial to just insert things into the DB | 17:20 |
| nikhil | DuncanT: I think a simplistic patch to glance #images in queued status (only DB record) would do exactly that. | 17:20 |
| nikhil | sudipto: ^ what do you think? | 17:20 |
| sudipto | nikhil, yeah that could be achieved. | 17:20 |
| nikhil | (also, we can test it on devstack) | 17:21 |
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| sudipto | nikhil, i would not necessarily commit on doing that this week, since i would like to spend sometime on the docs, but definitely add it to the to-do list. | 17:21 |
| DuncanT | It's just to make the count queries hit some big record counts - we should be testing at least 10x the biggest record count we expect to see in the wild | 17:21 |
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| sudipto | nikhil, DuncanT based on Jay's mail - is that how we would eventually expect delimiter to be consumed? | 17:23 |
| sudipto | referring to this NOVA example. | 17:23 |
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| DuncanT | sudipto: That's the current plan, yes. I'd like some confidence that it fly ASAP, so that we know if we need to think again (and go have a long debate with Jay no doubt) | 17:24 |
| sudipto | referring to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/095035.html | 17:24 |
| nikhil | DuncanT: right on | 17:25 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, sounds good. | 17:25 |
| nikhil | sudipto: no worries, I think the lib mysql support may take this week. but this can be put in our glance bucket and work with itisha too. | 17:25 |
| DuncanT | Having figures and demo code is a good way to deal with any nay-sayers, and to give us confidence before investing too much | 17:26 |
| * sudipto smells DuncanT is referring to a PoC | 17:27 | |
| sajeesh | DuncanT +1 | 17:27 |
| DuncanT | sudipto: A PoC plus an honest attempt to break it / benchmark it | 17:27 |
| DuncanT | sudipto: A friendly PoC is a different thing entirely | 17:27 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, heh gotcha! | 17:28 |
| sudipto | any volunteers for that? | 17:28 |
| DuncanT | I might have cinder in some shape to do it, maybe. Got a lot else on at the moment though :-( | 17:28 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, I will work with you - will that be alright? | 17:28 |
| DuncanT | certainly | 17:29 |
| sudipto | I too have some other commitments, but i will make sure that i keep coming back to you about it. | 17:29 |
| DuncanT | I'll get a github tree up this week with what I've got - I find them easier than gerrit reviews for messing with | 17:29 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, great! That could be our starting point I guess. | 17:30 |
| sudipto | DuncanT, I will try to prototype Nova. | 17:30 |
| DuncanT | Sounds good | 17:31 |
| nikhil | any other topic for open discussion? | 17:31 |
| nikhil | going 1 | 17:32 |
| nikhil | going 2 | 17:32 |
| nikhil | Thanks all! | 17:32 |
| nikhil | Let's reconvene next week. | 17:32 |
| nikhil | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 31 17:32:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-05-31-17.06.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-05-31-17.06.txt | 17:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quotas_wg/2016/quotas_wg.2016-05-31-17.06.log.html | 17:32 |
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