Thursday, 2016-02-25

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cdent#help14:59
cdent#startmeeting service-catalog-tng15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 15:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cdent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: service-catalog-tng)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'service_catalog_tng'15:00
bknudsonhi15:00
cdenthowdy, no sdague today, he's got daddy daycare15:01
cdentanybody here besides bknudson ?15:01
cdent#link agenda (from last week): https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ServiceCatalogTNG15:01
bknudsoncross-project initiatives aren't going to go far if nobody's involved.15:01
cdent#link last weeks notes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_catalog_tng/2016/service_catalog_tng.2016-02-18-15.01.html15:01
cdent#topic JSON Schema15:02
*** openstack changes topic to "JSON Schema (Meeting topic: service-catalog-tng)"15:02
cdentbknudson: you had any time to do any updates with that. both sdague and I have been swamped in nova stuff15:02
bknudsonI updated https://github.com/brantlk/service-catalog-schema/blob/master/schemas/ng.yaml with the schema we discussed last week15:03
bknudsonso it's deeply-nested, starting at the region and ending at the interfaces15:03
bknudsonhere's a simple example: https://github.com/brantlk/service-catalog-schema/blob/master/samples/ng/simple.json15:03
cdentthat seems pretty good. Do you agree that the deep-nesting is the way to go, now that you've played with it a bit?15:05
bknudsonno reason this shouldn't work15:05
cdentI think we should invite people to have a gander?15:07
bknudsonmaybe there's some hidden requirement for the service catalog that I don't know about15:07
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bknudsony, might as well get comments from the peanut gallery15:07
cdentwe are the blind leading the blind :)15:07
bknudsonpick the color on this bikeshed15:08
cdentmailing list or openstack-specs?15:08
bretonwho might have this requirement?15:08
bknudsonbreton: deployers might have some odd requirements... there are a lot of different service catalogs out there for some reason15:08
bretonmost of them are not for a specific reason I think15:09
bretonjust because of history15:09
bknudsony, we're trying to break from history here15:09
cdentlet's pick a place to get feedback and move on15:10
cdentml or spec?15:10
cdentI tend to think ml is more likely to feedback from the corners, but might be noisy15:11
bknudsonI agree, spec discussions tend to get more specific feedback15:11
bknudsonupdate the existing spec?15:11
cdentsure, you want that action?15:12
bknudsonor is this in keystone's court now?15:12
bknudsonwe're going to need a way to serve this up15:12
cdentI think we're probably still some distance from that15:13
bknudsonlet's try to get feedback from sdague and annegentle since they own the spec15:13
cdentyeah that makes sense, let's action them instead :)15:13
cdent#action sdague and annegentle to review latest schema and decide best how to get feedback, probably via the existing spec15:14
bknudsonif they want it updated I can go ahead and try to make the changes, just would like to know what's the best way to go about this.15:14
cdentmakes sense15:14
bknudsonand maybe the mailing list is better after all15:14
cdentwe'll see what they say, I'll direct them to the meeting log next time I bump into them...15:14
cdentmove on?15:14
bknudsony, let's just try to catch them later.15:15
cdent#topic service registry15:15
*** openstack changes topic to "service registry (Meeting topic: service-catalog-tng)"15:15
bknudson#moveon15:15
cdentThe repo has been created, and the TC bits have been mostly approved, but that's as far as it has gotten15:15
cdentIt will probably come up in the api-wg meeting which follows this one, to discuss the mechanics of how things will go from here.15:15
bknudsonI think sdague had the action to propose something to it15:15
cdentBut as is the usual case...this period of just before freeze is way busy15:16
cdentyeah, the repo exists, but empty for now15:16
cdentso existing actions remain15:16
bknudsonwe're not going to get this done before mitaka15:17
cdentnope15:17
cdent#topic open15:17
*** openstack changes topic to "open (Meeting topic: service-catalog-tng)"15:17
cdentanything else?15:17
bknudsonnothing else for me.15:17
cdentcool, thanks for keeping things rolling on the schema stuff, the friction on this stuff is frustrating, but ...15:18
* cdent shrugs15:18
bknudsonhopefully we can make this happen15:19
cdentbknudson: feel free to come to the api-wg if you're inclined, I'm not sure how much of the service registry stuff we'll get to as there are a few other weird things on the agenda, but we might hit some points worth knowing15:19
cdentit has to happen, eventually15:19
cdentdone?15:19
bknudsonI'm sure you can handle listing services without me.15:19
bknudsonhe he15:20
bknudsonI subscribed to the registry repo so I'll get notified15:21
cdentthe listing is the easy part15:21
cdentthe politics is the part that is going to get weird15:21
cdentah well15:21
cdent#endmeeting15:21
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"15:21
openstackMeeting ended Thu Feb 25 15:21:46 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:21
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_catalog_tng/2016/service_catalog_tng.2016-02-25-15.00.html15:21
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_catalog_tng/2016/service_catalog_tng.2016-02-25-15.00.txt15:21
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/service_catalog_tng/2016/service_catalog_tng.2016-02-25-15.00.log.html15:21
bknudsonI'm not good at politics15:21
* bknudson shrugs and votes for trump15:22
cdentha15:23
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