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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Aug 14 15:00:00 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Hello everybody | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | Welcome to ye olde osh team meeting | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Our agenda may be found here -- I'll give a couple minutes for folks to add additional topics if they'd like | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-08-14 | 15:00 |
| srwilkers | hello | 15:00 |
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| portdirect | o/ | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Alright let's get started | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Congrats to our new PTL | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Congrats to our new PTL (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| mattmceuen | Congratulations to portdirect -- he has been voted in as our next leader! | 15:05 |
| john_W | Whoo Hoo!! | 15:05 |
| portdirect | not so fast mattmceuen - you're still ptl atm | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say I'm looking forward to working with you as PTL | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect and I will be working closely to ensure a smooth transition | 15:06 |
| * mattmceuen throws PTL hat at portdirect and runs | 15:06 | |
| * mattmceuen juuuuuust kidding | 15:06 | |
| * portdirect as his 1st act declares tuesday helm day, everyone gets a day off work. | 15:07 | |
| mattmceuen | Happy helm day everybody. | 15:07 |
| jamesgu | congrats, portdirect! | 15:07 |
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| portdirect | thx guys, honestly following in mattmceuen 's footsteps will be a hard act to follow | 15:08 |
| portdirect | and I'm really looking forward to leaning on his experience | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | I could go on and on about how qualified portdirect is for this, but since I sit next to him it would just get awkward | 15:08 |
| portdirect | sometimes literally, if i can find him | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | TY portdirect, and it's been a pleasure and an honor serving as PTL this cycle | 15:08 |
| srwilkers | cue the bromance music | 15:09 |
| * srwilkers plays a pennywhistle solo | 15:09 | |
| * mattmceuen queasy | 15:09 | |
| portdirect | i think the only major change i'd like to see - is moar stickers | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | #denver | 15:09 |
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| john_W | like lethal weapon - all over again | 15:09 |
| portdirect | and also lets try and get the 1.0 release done this cycle | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | ++ | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:09 |
| portdirect | ^ how many times will we say this | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | this time it's for real | 15:10 |
| portdirect | hey evrardjp o/ | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | Ok | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Galera - where we at | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Galera - where we at (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:10 | |
| mattmceuen | Take it away srwilkers | 15:10 |
| portdirect | thats me i think? | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | yeah thats portdirect | 15:10 |
| portdirect | (etherpad is being funny today) | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | i hijacked his color somehow | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | good work srwilkers | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect all you | 15:11 |
| portdirect | so - I've been working away on galera for some time | 15:11 |
| portdirect | trying to use upstream mariadb image | 15:11 |
| portdirect | and to be honest, it not working out | 15:11 |
| portdirect | we can do it - but its a super ugly system of bind mounts and gaffer tape | 15:11 |
| portdirect | (duct tape to you yanks) | 15:11 |
| portdirect | as a result, I'd like to build an image with python and the k8s client in it | 15:12 |
| portdirect | as this is honestly the only sane way to do it | 15:12 |
| portdirect | ironicly, we started with a similar approach back in 2016 | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | would you base it off the upstream mariadb image, or from scratch? | 15:13 |
| portdirect | are people ok with using an 'osh' mariadb image? | 15:13 |
| portdirect | would be based off upstream i think | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: that's more thing to carry | 15:13 |
| portdirect | and then i'd try and push those changes up there | 15:13 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: i know :( | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: I am curious if kolla or loci could help out there? | 15:13 |
| portdirect | this is where loci would actually be great - but I think that convo belongs in the loci channel evrardjp | 15:13 |
| portdirect | ++ lol | 15:13 |
| portdirect | mariadb in bindep, kebernetes in python packages | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | I think loci should be restricted to openstack building, but I meant both those tools must have the same issues. | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | sorry for the interruption, go ahead | 15:14 |
| srwilkers | i think rolling a sane image would be a better approach than what we had explored before (something like proxysql) | 15:14 |
| portdirect | well we have been looking at building infra images with loci | 15:14 |
| portdirect | SamYaple has done most of the groundwork there | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | id rather maintain an image than have something like an extra chart helping out | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | I suppose it's technical debt either way | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | it is | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | So better to do it "right" | 15:15 |
| portdirect | yeah - I feel the overhead of managing an image, and sane chart is less than managing an insane chart... | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | can confirm: did proxysql chart, was insane | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | agreed there | 15:15 |
| portdirect | ok - I'll get a poc up this week - and we can hash it out in gerrit? | 15:16 |
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| srwilkers | portdirect: yep | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | I am fine with that -- please ping for reviews if need be | 15:17 |
| portdirect | will do | 15:17 |
| portdirect | would be great to get your eyes on it evrardjp | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks portdirect, evrardjp | 15:17 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: I will probably eventually need to build images for it, so better know it the earlier, that's not really free : p | 15:18 |
| evrardjp | hahah | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | Any other Galera thoughts before we move on? | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | ok | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Do we want to move the weekly team meeting to #openstack-helm ? | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Do we want to move the weekly team meeting to #openstack-helm ? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:19 | |
| mattmceuen | I believe I've heard this is the direction many projects are going | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | And it would be one less chat room to juggle | 15:20 |
| portdirect | im on the fence here | 15:20 |
| portdirect | but perhaps im just oldskool | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | What's the con, portdirect? | 15:20 |
| evrardjp | if you have no problem with this room and timings, I'd say keep it | 15:20 |
| portdirect | just noise | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | I'm fine with it either way | 15:20 |
| evrardjp | yeah -- the more ppl you'll have, the more noise | 15:20 |
| portdirect | and gerrit etc, whats quite nice is being able to chart to evrardjp in three places on diff topics at the same time | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | ahh, gotcha | 15:21 |
| portdirect | *chat - charts on the brain | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | also different logging | 15:21 |
| srwilkers | yeah. i like having the meetings here, as it prevents off-topic conversations from popping up during the meeting | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | Yeah, we'd have to set up the meeting bot in #openstack-helm -- sounds like "a little bit of work" plus "not a lot of gain" | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | #agreed OSH <3 #openstack-meeting-5 | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: the meetbot setup is not that hard. But I think it's better to keep things here :) | 15:23 |
| evrardjp | just my opinion, and it's already agreed anyway! | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | Do not underestimate my laziness, evradjp | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | :D | 15:24 |
| srwilkers | a fools folly | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | Alright moving on: | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Is there appetite for an ocata based armada gate? | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Is there appetite for an ocata based armada gate? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:25 | |
| srwilkers | oh hey, this is me | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | i was wanting to see if there was appetite for introducing an armada gate for deploying ocata | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | largely because i want a gate that shows us running the oslo log fluentd handler/formatter for the openstack services | 15:26 |
| portdirect | ^^ YES! | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | I am starving for an Ocata armada gate srwilkers | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | this accomplishes two things: shows how we can use the handler/formatter with our LMA stack instead of relying on fluentbit picking up pod logs, and we can also use it to further refine the filters we run in fluentd (ie: tag specific log level events, remove duplicate entries, throw away tagged events we may not care about) | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | I think it pairs well with Ocata default images | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: for the fluentd that's nice :) | 15:27 |
| portdirect | srwilkers: i thinkl this would be great | 15:28 |
| portdirect | it also shows a clear path to how you can use osh in a more production like way | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | cool -- glad the receptions positive. been chewing on it for a few days | 15:28 |
| portdirect | which we are really lacking atm | 15:28 |
| srwilkers | portdirect: yeah, it does | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | more gating is always positive when it doesn't block flows of commits | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:29 |
| srwilkers | i also hope to use this as an opportunity to explore using the logging components to gather the logs from this gate, as expanding the filters in fluentd can potentially make this easier | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | so its a win/win in my mind (ie: here's how to use this in a more production oriented way, and here's what the LMA stack can provide you in the form of tangible output as part of the post-run jobs) | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | anyway, that's all i really had | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | That's awesome | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | The gate scripts are good for learning and testing in isolation, but the armada manifst will be a much more reusable reference | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks srwilkers | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | Alright: | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS needing review | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS needing review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:32 | |
| mattmceuen | Here are a few patchsets that would appreciate some careful scrutiny: | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591730/ - Elasticsearch ingress | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581152/ | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543958/ - Prometheus auth to multinode armada | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | Any others we'd like to add? | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | yeah, one second | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | actually, nevermind | 15:35 |
| srwilkers | will rebase these and call out in the openstack-helm chat | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | Cool - we can add them retroactively to the agenda in case some folks check there | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:36 | |
| mattmceuen | Any additional topics all? | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | OK! | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks everyone - have a great day and see you back in #openstack-helm | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Aug 14 15:38:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-08-14-15.00.html | 15:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-08-14-15.00.txt | 15:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-08-14-15.00.log.html | 15:38 |
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