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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 3 15:01:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| mattmceuen | o/ all! | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | Agenda - please add, we have a light agenda today so far: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2018-04-03 | 15:02 |
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| mattmceuen | And the one thing we carried over from last week may need to get pushed again because key folks are travelling today :) | 15:02 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic Multiline LMA functionality -- we are tabling till next week | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Multiline LMA functionality -- we are tabling till next week (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic Team meeting time | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Team meeting time (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
| mattmceuen | It has been a very busy week folks (plus holiday) - I apologize but have not been able to get a survey type thing out to you all to determine a more optimal meeting time. I will plan to do that this week. | 15:05 |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Values-driven config files | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Values-driven config files (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| mattmceuen | portdirect has been doing some great work on this on a chart by chart basis, so I just wanted to make sure folks on the team were looped in on these changes | 15:06 |
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| mattmceuen | the idea being that going forward, we want to make all config files injectable through values overrides, rather than statically defined in the chart | 15:07 |
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| mattmceuen | doing this consistently will make it really easy to configure the charts in ways that were unforseen at the time of chart creation -- no code changes needed | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | So one takeaway is - as we add more config files, let's please add them via the values file-based approach that we're moving to! | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | Any questions / comments on this topic? | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Ceph split | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ceph split (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:09 | |
| mattmceuen | As we discussed last week (or was it two weeks ago) -- we are moving to split up ceph into a chart for the mons, one for osds, and one (or more) for other ceph services | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | Renis and Randeep are working on this -- there's a PS in progress, so feedback is welcome! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558326/ | 15:10 |
| rwellum | Matt sorry slow here - one qn about the values-driven overrides? | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | hey rwellum sure thing | 15:10 |
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| rwellum | Just I think this is a great idea, will it help with upgrading to newer OS version? Because with the correct logic the same charts can be used? | 15:11 |
| portdirect | yes | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | We're actually planning to use the same charts, no matter what :) | 15:13 |
| portdirect | a great example of this is rootwrap changes between os versions | 15:13 |
| portdirect | and this change really faciliates that | 15:13 |
| portdirect | eg things like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545743/ | 15:13 |
| portdirect | can be soly driven via values now :) | 15:13 |
| portdirect | without having to edit the charts :) | 15:13 |
| portdirect | *solely | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | I didn't mention this, but there is support for templating in the config files as embedded in the overrides. So very flexible. | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | example: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557882/3/ironic/values.yaml | 15:14 |
| rwellum | I actually thought you guys had this functionality a long time back. | 15:14 |
| rwellum | Ah right maybe this is what I am remembering. | 15:14 |
| portdirect | we have had some varitions on this in the past | 15:15 |
| portdirect | but this much simpler, and more powerful than we had previously | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | thanks portdirect. Anything else on either config or ceph front guys? | 15:17 |
| gmmaha | on ceph front, as renis and randeep are taking the lead, i will be the soundboard on this and test the patches out as they flow. | 15:17 |
| gmmaha | synced with renis yesterday on this. | 15:17 |
| gmmaha | thanks mattmceuen | 15:17 |
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| rwellum | Why the ceph split? Charts too complicated? | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | the ceph split is to facilitate upgrades | 15:18 |
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| mattmceuen | to guarantee an ordering so that the mons can be upgraded first, then the osds, then anything else, per ceph upgrade best practices | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks gmmaha!! | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | Testing the upgrade process IRL will be incredibly valuable to validating this work | 15:19 |
| gmmaha | ++ | 15:19 |
| rwellum | So this is more of a micro-architecture break down then? | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | I would call it a right-sizing micro-architecture break down, yes :) | 15:20 |
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| mattmceuen | It doesn't imply we want to split up every chart or anything - just when needed to do what we need to do | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | #topic PS needing review | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PS needing review (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:22 | |
| rwellum | Ok ty | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | What do we need eyeballs on, folks -- I already mentioned the first (of multiple) ceph split PS: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558326/ | 15:22 |
| portdirect | rwellum: its to model the same deployment as ceph-deploy | 15:22 |
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| portdirect | as ceph is like openstack, a collection of applications | 15:23 |
| portdirect | mons, osds, clients etc | 15:23 |
| portdirect | so here a single chart is somewhat analogous to having a dev-stack chart | 15:23 |
| rwellum | portdirect: but you can't do ceph with no mons or no osd's etc? Which is why I was curious. | 15:23 |
| portdirect | yup | 15:24 |
| portdirect | this is also part of the shift towards us moving ceph out of osh | 15:24 |
| portdirect | and into ceph-helm | 15:24 |
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| rwellum | Oh yeah that actually makes complete sense. | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SSrJtyZS/ | 15:28 |
| * mattmceuen needs to look before he clicks on buttons in irccloud | 15:28 | |
| mattmceuen | Other PS that anyone is waiting on? I wanted to get this on our radars as well, since it's important that we provide quick reviews to new contributors to our project: | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557586/ | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Roundtable Discussion | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roundtable Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:30 | |
| mattmceuen | Open forum folks - what would you like to discuss, learn, or vent? :) | 15:30 |
| rwellum | Qn: you guys doing official releases yet? | 15:31 |
| rwellum | As kolla-k8s enters it's terminal state - I will have time to get involved, so I'll try not to be too annoying :) | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | We had a lot of good disucssion on this at the PTG! | 15:32 |
| portdirect | not yet - though mattmceuen has a spec up for the critieria we are aiming for | 15:32 |
| portdirect | and I'm working on one for the release versioning strat | 15:32 |
| portdirect | this is the major focus we have atm | 15:33 |
| portdirect | with a goal of our 1st official release in the next 6-8 weeks | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | agree, we will get release strategy well defined and communicated soon | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | also rwellum - welcome! :) | 15:34 |
| rwellum | That's great news. yeah I missed the PTG (changing jobs). | 15:35 |
| rwellum | Thanks Matt. | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | Here are our notes - the rough sketch of release strategy can be found there, although it of course would require some squinting if you weren't present: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-ptg-rocky | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | Ok guys - I know a lot of team member are very heads down or travelling this week, so I won't keep y'all longer than needed. Have a great week, thanks for all your hard work, and see you in the team chat | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 3 15:36:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-04-03-15.01.html | 15:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-04-03-15.01.txt | 15:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2018/openstack_helm.2018-04-03-15.01.log.html | 15:37 |
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