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| portdirect | o/ | 15:00 |
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| StaceyF | o/ | 15:00 |
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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 28 15:00:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | y'all are fast this morning! | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | I've never seen a group of folks so eager for a meeting ;-) | 15:00 |
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| * srwilkers blinks | 15:01 | |
| korzen | hello | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | hi korzen! | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | Agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-11-28 | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | We'll give folks a couple minutes to filter in and add anything to the agenda | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | We'll be doing something slightly different today | 15:02 |
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| mattmceuen | This will be the first of a monthly meeting focused on CICD and gating-related topics, since those are so critical to QA and require quite a bit of coordination across folks | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | o/ | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | And also to understand different CICD use cases, and help share ideas and best practices | 15:03 |
| * jayahn yeah~ | 15:03 | |
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| mattmceuen | #topic Round table, overview of CI in OSH | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Round table, overview of CI in OSH (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| MarkBaker | o/ first timer - be gentle.... | 15:05 |
| lamt | o/ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | Welcome MarkBaker :) | 15:05 |
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| portdirect | MarkBaker: o/ | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect, want to kick this off with a status / overview of the new zuul3 gate work? | 15:06 |
| robertchoi80 | hi | 15:06 |
| portdirect | sorry, got distracted | 15:07 |
| portdirect | s the zuulv3 work has been taking two prongs | 15:07 |
| portdirect | 1) splitting of the charts into diff repos | 15:07 |
| portdirect | 2) converting to ansible (and voting!) gates | 15:07 |
| portdirect | this has allowed us to treat-osh infra a bit more roughly than we would have the main repo | 15:08 |
| portdirect | and I hope its in quite a good place now | 15:08 |
| portdirect | we have some people working on the docs for it now | 15:08 |
| portdirect | but it should be a lot more robust than the old kubeadm-aio hack | 15:08 |
| portdirect | we have used this as the basis for setting up k8s for osh | 15:09 |
| portdirect | and then moved the legacy scripts to run under this cluster | 15:09 |
| portdirect | with the next step/stage being importing the 'chart-runner' from osh-infra to allow us to launch all services via ainsible | 15:10 |
| portdirect | and check upgrades function as expected | 15:10 |
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| portdirect | once this is done - I think the biggest item remaining will be to test cluster restarts in the gate | 15:10 |
| portdirect | as currently this is the biggest weakness of osh | 15:10 |
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| mattmceuen | upgrade gates are going to be a great thing. | 15:11 |
| jayahn | agreed | 15:11 |
| MarkBaker | portdirect, docs referred to are at https://docs.openstack.org/openstack-helm/latest/ ? | 15:11 |
| portdirect | jayahn: have you peeps been testing node/cluster restarts in your pipelines? | 15:11 |
| jayahn | "test cluster restart" means restarting everything? | 15:11 |
| portdirect | MarkBaker: these are the current docs | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | so to summarize a little of that -- the openstack-helm-infra gates set up k8s platform, and today the openstack-helm gates call the legacy scripts to deploy the osh charts | 15:11 |
| portdirect | MarkBaker: this is the *very early* wip on the new docs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523173/ | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | but in the near future the openstack-helm gates will be continue to be enhanced | 15:12 |
| MarkBaker | portdirect, thx | 15:12 |
| jayahn | portdirect: not in pipeline, but definitly testing it manually to see what problems are there, how to solve it. | 15:12 |
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| mattmceuen | before we move on to some other CI topics -- any questions on the existing state of CI in the OSH projects themselves? | 15:14 |
| jayahn | just need to learn new CI. | 15:14 |
| jayahn | :) | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | "make dev-deploy" is a neat new feature to learn in osh-infra ;-) | 15:15 |
| mattmceuen | #topic container images | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "container images (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:15 | |
| portdirect | jayahn: i'd really appreate you guys having a look through these: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/tree/master/tools/gate/playbooks/deploy-helm-packages/tasks , https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/blob/master/tools/gate/chart-deploys/default.yaml | 15:16 |
| portdirect | as they are what I'd like to bring into osh itself for launching/managing charts | 15:16 |
| portdirect | SamYaple: you about? | 15:16 |
| jayahn | robertchoi80: need to check things portdirect throw us. :) | 15:16 |
| SamYaple | portdirect: yes | 15:16 |
| portdirect | So on images, we now have a new option :) LOCI | 15:17 |
| robertchoi80 | okay | 15:17 |
| StaceyF | Kaspars has started the Jenkinsfile for loci builds - https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/388686/ | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | For some of the newer folks to the team -- one of the design goals of OSH is to be able to support multiple container image sets | 15:17 |
| mattmceuen | E.g. Kolla and now LOCI. OSH aims to be largely agnostic. | 15:17 |
| portdirect | I am running these internally, and our CI/CD team lead by StaceyF is building out infra for internal builds | 15:17 |
| jayahn | okay. gerrithub. | 15:18 |
| portdirect | It would be great if we could start cross gating with LOCI | 15:18 |
| portdirect | SamYaple: how does that sound? :D | 15:18 |
| SamYaple | sounds good for sure | 15:18 |
| jayahn | portdirect: StaceyF: does gerrithub needs any permission to see logs from ci? | 15:18 |
| StaceyF | Just a github account | 15:18 |
| SamYaple | with zuulv3 LOCI can just reconsume OSH jobs | 15:18 |
| jayahn | when it fails, it throw us http://10.24.20.18:30085...... which i cannot see | 15:19 |
| portdirect | Once we have that in place, I'd like to consider changing the default image to LOCI, and provide over-rides/gates for kolla as well | 15:19 |
| StaceyF | The Jenkinsfile will be something that you would use in your internal Jenkins and you will just need to update variables to publish them wherever needed. | 15:20 |
| robertchoi80 | staceyF: that sounds good. | 15:21 |
| StaceyF | We will be allowing access to our LOCI images via Artifactory | 15:21 |
| StaceyF | Should happen this week | 15:21 |
| StaceyF | Jayahn we'll update the 30085 to our nexus server | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | Team - I'm going to go out of order on the Agenda -- we have a lot to get through and there a few things I want to make sure we get to today | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Cookiemonster from skt | 15:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cookiemonster from skt (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:25 | |
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| mattmceuen | (but hopefully we'll be able to get to everything today) | 15:25 |
| jayahn | we got promoted. :) | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn, want to give us an overview of cookiemonster? | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | :-D | 15:25 |
| jayahn | robertchoi80 will do | 15:25 |
| jayahn | robertchoi80: is our ci guy | 15:26 |
| robertchoi80 | all right. I'll briefly explain that | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | robertchoi80 is StaceyF's new best friend | 15:26 |
| jayahn | yes! | 15:26 |
| StaceyF | yes we met in Sydney :) | 15:26 |
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| robertchoi80 | it's ha test tool that terminates varios k8s resources (such as deployment or daemonset) on regular interval and duration. | 15:28 |
| robertchoi80 | it's similar to chaosmonkey from netflix. | 15:28 |
| robertchoi80 | for eg, | 15:28 |
| robertchoi80 | it tries to pick randomly one pod from the deployed resources, and if the number of replica is more than 1, it kills one of them. | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | can you give us a link to cookiemonster -- it's not the first hit on google :) | 15:30 |
| robertchoi80 | https://github.com/sktelecom-oslab/cookiemonster | 15:30 |
| jayahn | we just uploaded our source code, documentation and more example will come | 15:30 |
| portdirect | robertchoi80: what are the primary differences between it and https://github.com/asobti/kube-monkey, https://github.com/linki/chaoskube ? | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | awesome | 15:30 |
| StaceyF | very cool | 15:31 |
| robertchoi80 | portdirect: sorry, I am not the one who wrote that tool, so I can't answer that right now. I'll give you the answer later by email | 15:32 |
| robertchoi80 | that tool = cookiemonster | 15:32 |
| jayahn | portdirect: we probably need to do a quick comparison to answer your question. several month ago when we decide to write our own code, these tools were not perfect, so we decided to quickly make our own. | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | def interested in that comparison. We'd been wanting to use kubemonkey or chaoskube, but haven't gotten too far with that yet | 15:33 |
| jayahn | and had master plan to break anything via cookiemonster. :) | 15:33 |
| jayahn | okay. we will update with some comparison. | 15:34 |
| portdirect | jayahn: sounds good - I think i remember you mentioning being able to target specific applications at the PTG but a simple table would be a really great addition to the readme | 15:34 |
| jayahn | we don't have a cookiemonster chart yet, but will definitly make one soon and put on openstack-helm-addons for anyone to use | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks robertchoi80 & jayahn -- looks very promising from the readme, and would love to learn more | 15:35 |
| portdirect | jayahn: that would be awesome! | 15:35 |
| * portdirect is lazy and likes cookies | 15:35 | |
| mattmceuen | moving on: | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Where do we want to go next, how much can we share? | 15:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Where do we want to go next, how much can we share? (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:35 | |
| mattmceuen | "where do we go next" -- always a good question. | 15:35 |
| * jayahn i got a biggest difference. cookiemonster is way cooler name than others | 15:36 | |
| * mattmceuen agrees 100% | 15:36 | |
| srwilkers | jayahn: +++++ | 15:36 |
| srwilkers | however, kube-monkey wont eat my cat | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | First, from an AT&T perspective, like StaceyF showed with our CI - we want to share everything but the configuration, or anything that's irrelevant outside of AT&T | 15:37 |
| StaceyF | We will share our Jenkins configurations of any plugins, just no passwords :) | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | so everyone please feel free to either contribute, or take whatever looks applicable and adapt for your use! | 15:38 |
| portdirect | So - I covered where i'd like to see our community gates go a bit above, but I think we also need to work out a set of critera for plugins/alternative backends | 15:38 |
| portdirect | eg OpenContrail and friends | 15:38 |
| portdirect | anyone from Juniper here? | 15:38 |
| Krishna | yes, this is Krishna from Juniper | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | Welcome Krishna! | 15:39 |
| portdirect | Krishna: o/ | 15:39 |
| Krishna | Hello Matt | 15:39 |
| portdirect | have you peeps worked out what infra will be needed to test opencontrail? can we do it with simplegateway, to provide parity with the current gate tests? | 15:40 |
| portdirect | and would this be able to run in the community provided infra? or would a third party gate be required? | 15:41 |
| portdirect | i think youve had a few people (andrey?) looking into this | 15:41 |
| Krishna | We have done work with the simple GW to provide some parity and should be available to run in the community infra as stated. | 15:42 |
| Krishna | Andrey Pavlov has done some tests and there are some pending items which we need to hash out with Andrey. | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | that is great to hear. do you have that work somewhere for us to have a look at? Is it ready for that? | 15:43 |
| portdirect | Krishna: sounds good - could we make documentation a priority, which will help us help you guys get there | 15:43 |
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| jayahn | from skt perspective, we can share jenkins configuraiton, jenkinsfiles, along with some whitepaper on how we do it. | 15:44 |
| jayahn | However, I personally think we (skt) need to learn osh-gate more seriously. | 15:44 |
| Krishna | Matt: yes, we will send an emails with the compeleted work | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | Awesome, thanks Krishna. | 15:44 |
| portdirect | Krishna: a PS is always good too ;) | 15:45 |
| Krishna | PortDirect: we will make the documentation a priority and post it soon. | 15:45 |
| jayahn | to figure out (in long-run), how close/similar we would like to do with osh community gate. | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | Our goal w.r.t. OpenContrail gating is 1) to make it a first class citizen of OSH QA gates | 15:45 |
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| Krishna | portdirect: regarding the engaging the PS, we are in discussions for that. | 15:45 |
| mattmceuen | 2) to move toward OpenContrail installation on OSH being a first class installation mechanism for k8s that is well-documented and simple to use | 15:46 |
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| mattmceuen | Thanks, Krishna. I'm also planning to come to the OpenContrail meeting @ KubeCon, and would like to discuss OSH there too | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn -- yeah, please let us know your feedback on the new OSH gating | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn -- do you have gating for sona yet? Is that open, nd something we could learn from as well? May be good reusable principles | 15:49 |
| robertchoi80 | matt: that's still in our to-do list. | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | ok cool | 15:50 |
| robertchoi80 | should be done in next 2 weeks | 15:50 |
| jayahn | just did not have time. :( | 15:50 |
| jayahn | we have a release cut this week. super busy. :) | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | nice! 2 weeks ain't bad | 15:50 |
| jayahn | fyi, it will be provided as 3rd party gating. | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | fanstastic | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | alrighty -- catching up on topics I skipped :D | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Heat Templates | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Heat Templates (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:52 | |
| mattmceuen | StaceyF take it away | 15:52 |
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| portdirect | jayahn: thats great - I'd really like to have SONA up there as a 1st class citizen as well - bizarrely it (via CORD) was one of the projects that got me into this.... | 15:52 |
| StaceyF | I had already mentioned it earlier, we'll be putting up a patchset with all of the heat templates that are used in our Jenkinsfile. | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | awesome, thanks, I missed that in the flurry | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | superseed though - I don't think I missed that | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | #topic SuperSeed | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SuperSeed (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:54 | |
| StaceyF | The superseed job is triggered via a change to a Jenkinsfile or seed.groovy file. It updates any pipeline that has a change. We use this in our Development environment for Jenkins to verify that the seed and Jenkinsfile work before putting it into our Prod Jenkins | 15:55 |
| StaceyF | https://github.com/att-comdev/cicd/tree/master/cicd/SuperSeed | 15:55 |
| StaceyF | This is the job that will be updated to allow logs accessible by everyone | 15:56 |
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| mattmceuen | Thanks StaceyF. Any q's on this topic? | 15:58 |
| StaceyF | The goal will be to have this one job be in a Jenkins chart that you can kick it off and it builds all of your pipelines for osh | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | We're about out of time, all -- clearly this focused meeting was a good idea. Do you all want to 1) save the remaining few topics for next meeting, or 2) till the next CI meeting in a month? | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | I'm leaning toward next meeting | 15:59 |
| jayahn | can use some of next meeting time. | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | cool beans - I'll copy them over | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks, everyone! see you in the OSH chat! | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:00 | |
| portdirect | nice one mattmceuen, and thanks for suggesting/driving this jayahn | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 28 16:00:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-28-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-28-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-11-28-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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