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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 15:01:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
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| mattmceuen | GM/GE everyone! | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
| alraddarla | o/ | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | here's the agenda -- please take a moment to update w/ anything you'd like to discuss today https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-10-24 | 15:01 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic rollcal | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcal (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| portdirect | o/ | 15:02 |
| alraddarla | o/ | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:03 |
| mateuszb | o/ | 15:03 |
| jayahn | o/ | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | #topic update to official project status | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "update to official project status (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:04 | |
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| mattmceuen | The update to the status is that the project is official :) | 15:04 |
| jayahn | great!!! | 15:04 |
| mattmceuen | Congrats everyone - this is going to be a great opportunity to get more folks using and contributing to our project | 15:05 |
| raymaika | \o/ | 15:05 |
| mateuszb | :) | 15:05 |
| mattmceuen | on the coattails fo that: | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | #topic who is going to sydney | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "who is going to sydney (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:06 | |
| mattmceuen | Sydney will be a good opportunity to make folks aware of OSH as well | 15:06 |
| * portdirect tries to set topic to "whos coming back from sydney" | 15:07 | |
| mattmceuen | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jXdjNFjI/ | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn who is the +3? | 15:07 |
| jayahn | seungkyu ahn, robert (our ci guy), and one network guy | 15:08 |
| mattmceuen | awesome | 15:08 |
| portdirect | staceyf is going as well | 15:08 |
| portdirect | and bomman from juniper | 15:09 |
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| lrensing | o/ | 15:09 |
| jayahn | this would be great at sydney | 15:09 |
| mattmceuen | Madhukar from Juniper will be there too | 15:09 |
| * jayahn who wants to do sky diving with us? | 15:09 | |
| portdirect | jayahn: when? | 15:10 |
| jayahn | we are targeting sunday | 15:10 |
| portdirect | jayahn: before? | 15:10 |
| jayahn | portdirect: good point | 15:10 |
| portdirect | if so I'll need to check when my flight gets in :D | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | #topics summit talks of note | 15:11 |
| jayahn | it will be good discussion with staceyf since we are trying to do basic HA test automated in ci pipeline | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | I won't paste them here -- if anyone has any talks they think would be relevant to OSH folks, please add them into the etherpad! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-10-24 | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn: yes definitely | 15:12 |
| jayahn | at&t keynote in the morning will mention osh? | 15:12 |
| mattmceuen | We'll see :) | 15:12 |
| jayahn | pls put a work "skt" in your keynote.. :) | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | Just run up on stage jayahn | 15:13 |
| jayahn | i can do that :) | 15:13 |
| * srwilkers imagines jayahn pulling a kanye west | 15:13 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic Log-based metrics | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Log-based metrics (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:14 | |
| jayahn | okay, community meeting. need to be a bit more serious | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | The floor is yours mateuszb! | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | log-based metrics is a serious topic | 15:15 |
| mateuszb | Ok thanks | 15:15 |
| mateuszb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514655/ | 15:15 |
| mateuszb | I prepared a PS with the demonstration of fluent-prometheus plugin for log-based metrics purposes. @srwilkers - may I ask you to please take look at it to see if it's heading toward a good direction? There's a detailed description in PS's comment. | 15:15 |
| srwilkers | mateuszb: definitely | 15:16 |
| jayahn | i really would like to suggest to separate our logging effort into several steps | 15:16 |
| jayahn | it seems like we are thining too much in one shot | 15:16 |
| v1k0d3n | o/ sorry late this morning. | 15:17 |
| mateuszb | @srwilers thank you. @jayahn for example? | 15:17 |
| mateuszb | IMO the scope is minimal - I may only separate a Docker image from the PS. Apart from that I don't even touch integration with nagios and alarms. It just presents the simplest use case of prometheus-fluent plugin | 15:17 |
| jayahn | there will be more discussion and several ways of implementing alerts. we can totally do that after we first get "fluentbit-fluentd" gathering pipeline done | 15:18 |
| mateuszb | Sure, I don't want to push the change together with fluentbit-fluentd | 15:19 |
| mateuszb | My PS is done on top of fluentbit-fluentd and I assume it will be merged only after fluentbit work is done | 15:20 |
| jayahn | i know. i was happy to see your ps. | 15:20 |
| mateuszb | Cool. I also wanted to make sure @jayahn you accept the usage of fluent-prometheus plugin. Last time you talked about writing our own plugin for fluent-bit but I don't know anyone willing to do that :) | 15:21 |
| jayahn | i was not suggesting we must develop our own plugin, i was presenting that idea just to back-up my reasoning of doing alert on either on edge or on log store. | 15:22 |
| jayahn | :) | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | ah gotcha. | 15:23 |
| mateuszb | Ok. btw @jayahn how about alarms definitions? | 15:23 |
| jayahn | i am preparing that right now. i can probably upload the first ps at the beginning of next week | 15:24 |
| mateuszb | awesome | 15:24 |
| mateuszb | I have seen you asked @srwilers about a reference implementation for alerting system. Is anything established in this matter? | 15:25 |
| jayahn | btw, we all agree on this >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507023 moving fluent-logging from openstack-helm addons to openstack-helm repo | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | great | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | Anything else we can hash through on that one, mateuszb? | 15:25 |
| jayahn | mateuszb: not really. we might need to setup some separate meeting (probably web-conference) for that topic | 15:26 |
| mateuszb | @jayahn yes, once it's moved I'll also move my PS | 15:26 |
| mateuszb | ok | 15:26 |
| mateuszb | that's all from my side :) | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | (please disregard me, was having some connectivity issues and missed your messages :) ) | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | ok cool | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | thanks mateuszb | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Nova placement service | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova placement service (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:27 | |
| jayahn | pls review it. | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | This PS was getting some discussion in the etherpad, thought I'd bring it here | 15:27 |
| jayahn | my quesiton would be not limited to nova placement | 15:28 |
| jayahn | as portdirect wrote on etherpad, i have listed things we need to do for ocata. | 15:28 |
| jayahn | getting these done would be not difficult, however, then gating should have a separate ocata build | 15:29 |
| portdirect | jayahn: +2 to that | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | agree | 15:29 |
| jayahn | what is our plan on completely switching to ocata | 15:29 |
| portdirect | can you have a look at the gate work ive been doing in osh-infra | 15:29 |
| jayahn | portdirct: i can ask our ci guy to look at the gate work | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | Re: when is our plan to completely switch to ocata -- once we get Newton done :) | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | And we're getting close | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | But still more work to be done | 15:31 |
| mattmceuen | I'd like to work to "catch up" to master over time | 15:31 |
| jayahn | then, i would like to have "the list" stating what means done. (we probably had similar discussion on ptg, but i think we just need to have more concrete "task list" for this) | 15:32 |
| mattmceuen | Good idea. | 15:32 |
| portdirect | Would we not want to move to master? | 15:33 |
| mattmceuen | #action Matt will work on a consolidated task list for OSH Newton | 15:33 |
| portdirect | and have a gate for each of the releases leading from netwon to that? | 15:33 |
| jayahn | i am sure we definitely want to move to master. | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | portdirect: that would be ideal | 15:34 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Review Needed | 15:35 |
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| mattmceuen | Jay already brought up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493422/ | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | Anyone patiently waiting for reviews that could use a nudge? | 15:36 |
| jayahn | okay, then we need to have a stair to heaven - steps we would like to take from current state (newton) to ideal state (catching up master) | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | Agree. Along with an understanding of which releases our users are most interested in | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | (and when-ish) | 15:39 |
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| mattmceuen | And again - hopefully we'll be getting a lot more users, and hence a lot more input soon :) | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Open Discussion | 15:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:41 | |
| jayahn | since we just started seeing EOL on newton discussion on mailing-list, probably we need to move up to more recent release soon | 15:41 |
| alanmeadows | I have no doubt we can fast follow a 1.0 newton release with the next | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:42 |
| alanmeadows | in really short order given the latest handling of config templates | 15:42 |
| alanmeadows | I think the only thing we are waiting for is an official cut of newton | 15:42 |
| portdirect | and that mostly releys on moving things to the correct repos | 15:43 |
| portdirect | *relies | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect: is your thought that we'd branch OSH repo per-release, but have OSH-Infra for example usable by multiple OSH versions? Or am I reading in too much? | 15:45 |
| * jayahn i think i am doing really good after four pints of beer and three Tequila shots | 15:46 | |
| portdirect | def +2 to the latter | 15:46 |
| portdirect | I hope we could do the former via overrrides, which would not require a branch | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | jayahn the next OS Summit needs to be in South Korea, that's all I know :-D | 15:46 |
| portdirect | so a version of osh, could work with multiple versions of OS | 15:47 |
| portdirect | but I need to think about this more | 15:47 |
| mattmceuen | ahh | 15:47 |
| jayahn | hm.. multiple versions of openstack can be done only via overrides. that would be ideal. | 15:47 |
| jayahn | but, as portdirect said, we probably need to think a bit more. | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | Any other topics you all would like to discuss? | 15:49 |
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| mattmceuen | Hey @renmak__ :) | 15:50 |
| renmak__ | Hey Matt | 15:50 |
| renmak__ | Just joined in | 15:50 |
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| mattmceuen | Just in time - unless you have any roundtable, I think we're ready to call it a meeting! | 15:50 |
| renmak__ | Yeah one thing. | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | go for it | 15:51 |
| renmak__ | Looking for more feedback on this PS | 15:51 |
| renmak__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457754/ | 15:51 |
| renmak__ | This is for Ceph OSD per POD | 15:51 |
| renmak__ | It needs to be reviewed and merge. Few other US are depending on this change. | 15:51 |
| renmak__ | So it would be great if folks take some time and provide feedback on this PS | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | Agree - let's try to round this out this week if possible | 15:52 |
| renmak__ | That's all | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | Ok, thanks team - good meeting. Have a great day (and go lay down jayahn :) ) | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 15:54:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-10-24-15.01.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-10-24-15.01.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-10-24-15.01.log.html | 15:54 |
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