Wednesday, 2017-09-20

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ricolin#startmeeting heat15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 15:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
ricolin#topic roll call15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'15:00
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kiennthi o/15:00
ricolino/15:01
kazsho/15:01
zanebhello everyone15:01
ramishrahi15:01
ricolinzaneb, how's your little girl doing:)15:01
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zanebricolin: she's doing great, thank you!15:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda15:02
*** openstack changes topic to "adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)"15:02
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ricolinzaneb, cool!15:02
ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-09-20_1500_UTC.2915:02
gabormhello15:03
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ricolingaborm, hi!15:03
ricolin#topic PTG recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG recap https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg (Meeting topic: heat)"15:03
ricolinSo we have some discussion cross PTG including try to make some goal for Queens15:04
ricolinWith in each topics, we set up some goal/actions to do15:05
ricolinAnd put targets in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg-conti-for-topics15:06
ramishraDid the separate repo for tempest plugin still in the final list of goals for queens?15:06
ricolinyes, at least for me and therve15:06
ricolinBut please help on put more inputs in etherpads:)15:07
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ramishraricolin: I mean I wanted to avoid it till we're forced to do it;)15:09
ricolinramishra, why?:)15:09
ramishraricolon: I'm pesonally not convinced with the benefits vs effort15:10
ramishrait's agreed as a community goal now, so we probably have to do it anyway15:13
ricolinramishra, I guess we can try to make it easier as we can, like not separate functional tests out?15:14
ricolinWe can separate common lib in integration test and scenario to now plugin15:15
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ramishraricolin: I've not thought about it in detail, but yeah keeping the tests in heat repo would be simpler I suppose15:16
ramishrabecause the plugin repo would be branchless I suppose15:17
ricolinand more light weight for others who try to use it15:18
ramishraanyway, we can move to the next item15:19
ricolinramishra, cool, anyway please help to put inputs in as that's just few people15:19
ricolin's discussion, and we need more:)15:20
ricolin#topic Move Meeting schedule15:20
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ramishraricolin: I had added a topic about cloudwatch15:20
ricolinramishra, okay15:21
ramishramay be we can discuss that after this15:21
ricolinso this one is about suggest we reschedule our meeting time15:21
ricolinramishra, NP!:)15:21
ricolinMaybe like two hour earlier?15:22
ramishrayeah if that works for people in the US:)15:22
zanebtwo hours earlier would be 9am for me, so that's no problem from my perspective15:22
zanebalthough daylight savings will end on Nov 5th, and after that it will be 8am15:22
zanebwhich is earlier than I prefer but at least this isn't a video meeting ;)15:23
zanebdo we have any other US-based regular contributors?15:24
ricolinzaneb, or maybe one hour?15:24
ricolinnope:)15:24
zanebit seems that the center of gravity has shifted East again :)15:24
ricolinzaneb, you're alone:)LoL15:24
zaneb1 hr is great, 2hrs is OK15:24
kiennt+1 one or two hours earlier, both is great with me15:25
kazsh1 hr should be fine, much better than the current time.15:25
kazsh+1, from 0am Thu to 11pm Wed :)15:25
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ricolinramishra, any idea?:)15:25
zanebkazsh: I admire your commitment :)15:26
ramishra2 hrs is better for me, but 1 is still better than now15:26
* zaneb did a lot of 10pm meetings while living in Europe15:26
kazshzaneb: ;)15:27
ricolinzaneb, will 1 and half better for you?:)15:27
zanebricolin: let's go 2hrs earlier15:27
ricolinAlso as it's allowed right now, shall we move to use #heat for meeting?15:28
zanebmost contributors are in asia, we should organise around y'all15:28
ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485117/15:28
zanebwe are getting zero benefit from being in the meeting channel as long as it's #openstack-meeting-515:29
ricolinzaneb, let's try -2hrs and see if that works for all15:29
ricolinzaneb, yeah, still same group of people from #heat15:30
zanebif we can get #openstack-meeting or #openstack-meeting-alt at that time then maybe worth it, otherwise move to #heat imho15:31
ramishraAlso we don't have much going on in #heat most of the time, so we should be ok there too;)15:31
ricolinzaneb, question for you #openstack-meeting > #heat?15:32
zanebricolin: I don't really care either way15:33
zanebin principle it's nice to be able to ping people who are in the meeting channel, but how often do we actually do that?15:33
ricolinzaneb, like zero:)15:34
ricolinSo15:34
zaneb#heat it is then ;)15:34
ricolinWe will try to move two hour and host in #heat15:34
ricolinstart from Next one15:34
ricolinDone:)15:34
ricolinI mean Two hour earlier15:35
ricolin#topic Removing CloudWatch service completely15:35
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ricolinramishra, ^^^15:35
zanebhow is this thing still allive?15:35
ramishraI was thinking of removing everything about cloudwatch from heat15:35
zaneb*alive15:35
zanebramishra: do it15:36
ramishraDoes anyone see/have any issues with it15:36
ramishra?15:36
therveMaybe remove it from puppet/tripleo first15:36
ramishratherve: yeah I was thinking about deployment tools15:36
ramishraand the impact there15:37
zanebramishra: iiuc it doesn't actually work with multiple heat engines does it? I can't imagine that anybody is still relying on it15:37
ramishrazaneb: yeah no one probably uses it, but I've seen some issues when they tried to remove it from TripleO15:38
ricolinwe should send out a ML first and ask tripleO to remove it if they still using it15:38
ramishraBut those are due to what we do in heat15:38
ramishrayeah, I'll probably start a ML thread to see if any other project see any issues15:39
ricolinramishra, +1 we can give others few milestones and remove it:)15:41
ramishraricolin: it's actually a defunct service, I am worried about deployment tools (probably there would be no impact though) and not the users of it15:42
ramishrabut yeah, we can take the full cycle to do it:)15:43
ricolinsounds great to me:)15:44
ricolinramishra, move on?15:45
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ramishraricolin: yep15:46
ricolin#topic Open discussion15:46
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ricolinAnything else?:)15:46
kazsho/  for heat-dashboard15:46
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kazshricolin: I need your review & + 1 to move forward, pleae check  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504104/15:47
kazshhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/504166/15:47
kazshthere are two change request to make a new project.15:47
kazshand Infra team will not give +2 unless PTL's + 115:48
ricolinso I think there still something short15:49
ricolinkazsh, you need to import from other git repo to create this new one15:50
ricolinkazsh, or maybe I missing something in patch15:50
gabormricolin: regarding that adopt-related bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1700744) I believe I spotted the bug, wish I had time for doing a fix...15:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1700744 in OpenStack Heat "Stack adopt does not work for nested stacks on command line" [Medium,Triaged]15:51
kazshricolin: yea I will keep git logs as we discussed but beforehand just preparing a new repo by following up https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html15:51
kienntricolin: Could you abandon the follow patch for me? Due to some very dumb troubles with config, I'm unable to abandon it now :(15:52
kiennt#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47536415:52
ricolinkazsh, see here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416244/315:53
ricolinkiennt, sure:)15:53
kienntricolin: thank you :)15:53
ricolingaborm, I can help to give it a test15:54
kazshricolin: Thank you, that looks almost same as what I'm doing :)15:54
ricolingaborm, I think it's a bug too15:54
gabormricolin: that would be great, thanks a lot in advance :)15:54
ricolinkazsh, did your patch contain git repo link?15:55
kazshricolin: ah gotcha15:55
kazshyou mean.. upstream: https://github.com/xxxxx ? right ?15:55
ricolinkazsh, yeah:)15:56
ricolinkazsh, it needs to know where it can folk from15:56
kazshricolin: very helpful, thanks a lot mate :)  will update this change tomorrow & get back to you soon!15:56
ricolinkazsh, cool!15:57
ricolin3mins left15:57
ricolinAnything else?15:57
ricolinAnyone would like to give a Forum topic Brainstorming?:)15:58
ricolinOkay thanks all for join meeting today, please provide your inputs to PTG etherpads and notice that we move to 13:00 UTC at #heat next time. I will make ML out16:01
ricolin#endmeeting16:01
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