Wednesday, 2017-08-23

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ricolin#startmeeting heat15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 23 15:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'15:00
ricolin#topic roll call15:00
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kazsho/15:00
ricolino/15:00
ramishrahi15:01
kiennthi15:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda15:02
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ramishraricolin: I have to leave in 10 mins15:02
ricolinramishra, NP, this meeting won't be long:)15:02
ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-08-23_1500_UTC.2915:02
ricolin#topic PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-queens-ptg15:03
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ramishraMay be we rescehdule it it little earlier in the day15:03
ramishraI don't see many US guys joining now a days15:03
kazsh:) sounds nice for me15:04
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ricolinramishra, yup, we can do that, depends on zaneb's schedule15:04
ricolinlet me recheck team schedule and see if we can make it eailer15:05
ricolinmaybe we can settle a new time schedule in PTG15:06
ricolinwe still didn't got many feedback in PTG etherpad now :/15:06
ricolinI will send a ML out later for request for propose15:07
ricolinAny idea/target for next cycle works?:)15:07
kazsha part from hot drag&drop, I'm planning to propose a couple of functions15:07
kazshwill write bps in a week & hopefully we will have discussion in PTG :)15:08
ricolincool:)15:08
kazshShould I add the topics to the etherpad ?  ricolin15:09
ricolinkazsh, yes, right now we're under propose period15:09
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kazshsure ok will do :)15:09
ricolinwe should decide schedule in next week meeting15:09
ricolinIt will be better for us to find/collect some key feature, for teams to works on15:10
ramishramay be wait till therve is back from PTO as he would be there.. I'm not travelling, hence it's in the back burner for me;)15:11
ricolinBut I guess we have to collect idea/works on heat in PTG15:11
ricolinramishra, so when will therve?:)15:11
ricolinbe back?:)15:12
ramishrasure, I mean we can take some time to finalize it. What's the deadline for it.15:12
ramishrahe would be back next week I think15:12
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ricolincool then maybe we should finalize it at 9/06's meeting15:13
ricolinAnyway, please send your feedback to etherpad:)15:14
ricolin#topic Project Update15:15
ramishraI think we should find a way to use trusts or something else for deferred_auth with keystone federation15:15
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ramishramay be have a discussion with keystone guys like last time15:15
ramishraI don't think there is any progress from keystone side on it yet15:16
ricolinramishra, +115:16
ramishraI'll add it to the etherpad15:16
ricolinI will help to connect with Keystone team15:16
ricolinthe only patch for this fix was stuck in keystone review for long...15:17
ramishraI'm not sure if it's a priority for keystone team, we probably have to find some alternative15:18
ramishrathough I don't know if there is one;)15:18
ricolinramishra, you know better then I do:)15:18
ricolinI have discuss this with hardy as well, and he think no alternative too;/15:19
ricolinramishra, let's push keystone team to discuss on this15:20
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ramishrayeah, we probably need to find something or push keystone team for some solution for trusts issue15:21
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ricolin+115:22
ricolinFor project update, we will cut RC2 this week15:23
ricolinWho ever try to do thing to queens-1 feel free to go for it:)15:23
ricolinAlso we will have a session in Summit for Project update15:24
ricolinThe default is 20mins15:24
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ricolinbut team can request for 40mins if needs15:25
ricolinThe question is do we need 40mins:)15:25
kazshsounds good, I will attend it15:25
ramishra20 mins should be good enough;)15:26
kazshI guess so15:26
kazsh;)15:26
ricolinI'm thinking about we should also give some time for heat-translator project, but 20 sounds enough to me too:)15:26
ricolinshort video also got more viewer:)15:26
kazshhaha +115:27
ricolincool15:27
ricolin#topic Open discussion15:27
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ricolinAnything needs discuss?:)15:28
kazshnot discussion but I'm going to have a presentation in Sydney, https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/19599/how-to-make-openstack-heat-better-based-on-our-one-year-production-journey?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dkazunori%23eventid%3D1959915:28
kazshfortunately accepted :)15:28
kazshwill refer about drag & drop ui at there15:28
ramishrabtw I fixed the amqp1 job failures with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496244/15:29
ramishrathat was taking long time and timing out15:29
ricolinramishra, I'm not notice that!!:)15:30
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ramishraricolin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477745/15:30
ramishrajob is green there15:31
ricolinramishra, cool!15:32
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ramishraHowever, it's a workaround for the nova issue with cells, this needs to be fixed in either nova or devstack amqp1 plugin in the fuure15:33
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ramishrabut it was delaying the patches, timing out after 2hrs15:33
ricolinIIRC cell is not that stable15:35
ramishrait works fine I think. the issue is with nova superconductor and amqp115:36
ricolinmaybe we should raise a bug in nova, can't find any for that in a quick search15:38
ramishraprobably https://review.openstack.org/#/c/488610/ would fix that, but not sure15:39
ramishrabut the author has blocked it for last 3 weeks, so no choice for us15:40
ramishraanyway, it's a non-voting job, not too worried about using a deprecated config15:40
ricolininteresting fix to override rabbit calls15:42
ricolinramishra, yep, maybe we can list this in one of project goals for next cycle15:43
ricolinkazsh, thanks for sending that topic in summit:)15:45
kazsh:) ricolin15:45
ricolinAnything for discuss or notes?15:46
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kazshfor drag & drop ui, I will talk with Horizon team also15:46
kazshbecause we need some helps15:46
kazshfrom them, how should we follow their convention etc.15:47
kazshespecially any requirement for the Horizon plugin15:47
ricolinyes, I will also touch with horizon team for schedule in PTG too:)15:47
kazshthanks ricolin, let's join Horizon team PTG together15:48
ramishrakazsh: do you've mistralin your openstack environmeny, if yes, you can possibly use https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/mistral/external_resource.py15:48
kazshin advance to that, I and my colleague will join today's Horizon IRC meeting, as heads-up ;)15:48
ricolinsure, I do thinking to put it in Heat as well, but anyway we will figure out the schedule15:49
ramishrafor the custom resource thing15:49
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ricolinramishra, you mean that bug?15:49
ramishraI mean in the summit talk abstract kazsh talks about custom resource missing in heat15:50
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kazshramishra: thanks will touch that also15:50
ramishraso if there is mistral, external_resource can be used for that15:51
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kazshoriginally I'm planning to talk about resource plugin class :)15:51
kazshbut yea the external resource also looks useful.15:51
ramishrakazsh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/implement-custom-resource15:52
ricolinkazsh, I think that can help if you have mistral in your env.15:52
ramishraI proposed that long time back, but was blocked15:52
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ramishrathere would be a ML discussion for it around that time15:54
kazshramishra, ricolin: unfortunately my env does not have mistral yet, but I will try to figure out15:54
kazshthat's why I made plugins according to https://docs.openstack.org/heat/latest/developing_guides/pluginguide.html15:55
ramishraIf you can have custom resource plugins and maintain them yourself, well and good15:56
kazshprob..ramishra your suggested one does not need to have any own code like as the plugin, correct ?15:57
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ramishrakazsh: if you're talking about the mistal external resource, then you would need some mistral actions for your resource, if they don't exist15:59
ricolinkazsh, it might:) it's powerful to let mistral to control the workflow15:59
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ricolinwe run out of time, anything to raise for last few mins:)16:00
kazshramishra, ricolin, ok, I need to learn mistral more first, happy to know there is another way to make it in custom resource class :)16:00
ramishrathe one in the blueprint can run any code that you've as long as it can write and read from the zaqar queue16:01
ramishraricolin: I'm done16:01
ricolinokay, than I think we better move this back to heat, thanks all for join and please give your idea in PTG etherpad:)16:02
ricolin#endmeeting16:02
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