Wednesday, 2017-07-26

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ricolin#startmeeting heat15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 15:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
ricolin#topic roll call15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'15:00
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ramishrahi15:01
ricolino/15:01
kazshHi team15:01
kiennto/15:01
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zanebo/15:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda15:02
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-07-26_1500_UTC.2915:02
ricolin#topic Feature freeze week15:03
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ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-3-feature-freeze-review-list15:03
ricolinSo I make a list for BP relative patch that hope to get landed this week15:04
ricolinSo we can make feature freeze before this Friday15:04
ricolinAny BP relative patch missing?:)15:05
ricolinPS stack definition incloud all 11 remaining patch:)15:06
ramishrawhy are the heat-templates patches in that list?;)15:06
ricolinramishra, good question, so heat-template not limit by feature freeze?15:06
zanebif we can get the first 8 of stack-definition then I'll be happy15:07
zanebthe last 3 are just refactoring15:07
ricolinzaneb, I think we can even make those FFE if that's required:)15:07
zanebok15:08
zanebthe first one is approved already15:08
ramishrazaneb: we've 2 more days, we are merging on an average 4 patches of that series everyday;)15:08
zanebthe BIG one is next15:08
zanebbut it's not as scary as it looks15:08
ricolinAlso we might need some stable branch approve on heat-template and other repos15:10
zanebthere's a stable branch for heat-templates?15:10
ricolinI notice a global requirement for ocata in heat-template stay in list for long15:10
ricolinor another project!?15:10
ricolinchecking15:10
ricolindid I said heat-template? I mean python heatclient:)15:11
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/443877/15:11
ricolinand it's going to land:)15:12
ricolinso nevermind!15:12
* zaneb did a bunch of heatclient reviews yesterday15:12
ricolinAnd final ask is there any other BPs that we should land this week?15:13
ricolinor is there any BPs in list that we should not land this cycle?15:14
ricolinOkay! move on:)15:15
ricolin#topic UI for Heat Template Creation (from kazsh)15:15
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ricolinkazsh, I think it's yours:)15:15
kazshyep, thanks ricolin :)15:15
kazshUI for Heat Template Creation, I guess some people were thinking to implement15:15
kazshlike..15:16
kazshhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/hot-generator-visualizer15:16
kazshAlso found similar in horizon, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/heat-template-creator15:16
kazshDoes any one work for this subject ?15:16
zanebsomebody did this at one point but it was abandoned afaik15:17
kazshok, recently I and my team are keen to make it easier for user to create hot15:17
zanebkazsh: https://github.com/rackerlabs/hotbuilder15:17
zanebkazsh: last commit is 2 years ago, but would be easier than starting from scratch15:18
kazshAnd developed drag & drop hot generator in Horizon, now this function is working in our cloud services.15:18
kazshthanks for your advice zaneb :)15:18
kazshFYI https://youtu.be/RrsXOR521uQ15:19
ramishrakazsh: Is it a horizon plugin?15:19
kazshthis is demo which our hot generator working in Horizon15:19
kazshnot yet15:19
kazshramishra15:19
kazshI'm planning to propose this to horizon15:20
ricolinkazsh, yeah, that will be a very helpful feature, so you guys implement this on both heat and horizon, or just horizon will do?15:20
kazshbut before that, would like to know is there any same activity happening or not15:20
kazshat this moment, only horizon15:20
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kazshbut I guess we need heat team's help, advices on this15:21
ricolinkazsh, no one working on this AFAIK15:21
kazshok, well there is no conflict15:21
kazshDoes any one help me to reach out horizon team, do you know someone best whom I should consult this ?15:22
ramishraI think it can be seprate repo like https://github.com/openstack/ironic-ui15:23
ramishraIf we want:)15:23
ricolinramishra, +115:23
kazshthat looks a plugin, nice +115:24
kazshhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/Heat-UI15:24
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kazshfound Template Creator in the bottom15:25
kazshhopefully horizon team also will accept this suggestion15:25
ramishraI think we need to pull out existing heat stuff from horizon first and then start adding the generator thing to it.15:25
ricolinkazsh, If they don't accept you can help to create a heat-ui repo first and we can do it our self:)15:26
ramishraI suggested it a few cycles back but there were no takers and not many to work on it15:26
ricolinkazsh, like ramishra said:)15:26
kazshsounds nice :)15:26
zanebyeah, horizon team is really stretched and they're unlikely to want to take on new stuff in-tree15:27
zanebbut this is certainly a good idea as a plugin15:27
kazshwell, I have some colleagues who can work for this15:27
ricolinsold!15:27
kazshdecouple the heat portion from horizon code, & make it as a plugin15:28
kazshthen..add this new template gen ui15:28
ricolinzaneb, is there any deadline in cycle for create a new project?15:28
zanebI definitely wouldn't try to extract a plugin the week of feature-freeze ;)15:29
kazsh;)15:29
ricolinzaneb, no!:)15:30
zanebI don't know of any specific guidance on that15:30
kazshI got approval to go the coming ptg from my boss, and just planing to attend horizon's room to talk about this..15:33
ramishraI think you can start on a personal repo like https://github.com/mkr1481/os-hot-gen15:33
ricolinkazsh, nice we will have to adopt new feature in Queens, so might be greate to have some prepare and maybe code so we can take more discussion in PTG.15:34
ramishraThough the os-hot-gen bp did not progress;)15:34
kazshyea I know I should have small start15:34
kazshramishra15:34
kazshricolin, yes we are preparing for those15:35
ricolinNice:)15:35
kazshlooks better to make our code a small code as ramishra suggested15:36
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kazshsorry a small plugin15:36
kazshin the separated repo15:36
kazshif you will help us in Denver to start have the new activity/project on this and to talk with horizon team, that would be highly appreciated, ricolin :)15:38
ricolinkazsh, yes15:38
ricolinkazsh, happy to15:38
kazshricolin, thank you very much !!15:38
ricolinkazsh, NP:)15:39
ricolinkazsh, anything else on this topic?:)15:39
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kazshno, let me keep consulting this with you guys going forward, thanks a lot for your kind advices everybody :)15:40
ricolinNP, we're team:)15:40
ricolinMove on15:40
ricolin#topic Rolling upgrade discussion15:41
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ricolinkiennt ^^^15:41
kienntHi, me and rolling upgrade again15:41
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kienntIn couple days ago, ricolin told me about QA's answer and ramishra had a question about the gate job15:42
kienntDo you think we should merge patches about spec/docs first and move patch about gate job to next cycle?15:43
kienntramishra: what's your opinion?15:43
ramishraI don't think that's an issue i.e landing patches, we would not get the tag and can't claim it15:44
ricolinps the Q and A from me to Andrea in this link http://paste.openstack.org/show/616597/15:45
ramishraSo if the objective is to land those patches, then we can land those, but we can't mark the bp complete15:45
ricolin#link http://paste.openstack.org/show/616597/15:46
ramishraricolin:  I don't think QA would have the answer, the fact is we would not test it at the gate does not confirm to the governance requirement15:46
ramishraMay be ask TC about it rather than QA15:47
ricolinActually TC got no fixed answer for this, they think QA got the answer for what we should test on gate15:48
ramishraKeeping aside TC/QA answers, if we think not testing at the gate is fine and we can get the tag without it, we should go for it15:49
ricolinramishra, I think the answer will be, we need test at gate:)15:50
kienntramishra: How about your patch - Run heat api test after upgrade?15:51
kiennt#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460542/15:51
ramishrathat would not test rolling upgrade(mixed versions), it's just after any upgrade15:52
kienntramishra:  I see, but I can't find the way another projects setup gate for rolling upgrade? Do you know about it?15:54
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ramishrakiennt: As I said before I don't know how these projects have the tag. We've to by the governance requirement15:56
ramishras/by/go by15:56
ramishraBut as I said we can land the patches if we want, I would not block them;) but IMO, the bp would not be complete without the gate testing of the feature15:57
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kienntramishra: ok, thank you. So I think the best option is landing the patches, but still marks the bp incomplete until we have a gate job15:59
kienntthe actual gate :)15:59
ricolinkiennt, I can help to ask TC for tag before pike release, but will be reasonable to apply that with our gate test:)15:59
kienntricolin: thank you very much16:00
ricolinwe run out of time, kiennt is there anything more you would like to discuss:)16:01
kienntricolin: no, i think it is enough today16:01
kienntthank you all16:01
ricolinkiennt, :)16:01
ricolin#topic Open discussion16:01
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ricolinAny one need to raise anything?:)16:02
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ricolinokay, thanks all for join:)16:02
ricolin#endmeeting16:02
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