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| srwilkers | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 18 15:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is srwilkers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| srwilkers | good morning o/ | 15:00 |
| dulek | o/ | 15:01 |
| lrensing | o/ | 15:01 |
| portdirect | oh hai \o | 15:01 |
| xek | hi o/ | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | heres the link for today's agenda -- it's fairly light, probably in part to me not getting it out in a timely manner | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2017-07-18 | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | that'll be different for next week | 15:02 |
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| srwilkers | lets take a few minutes and see if we can add some more points to it | 15:02 |
| v1k0d3n | o/ | 15:02 |
| srwilkers | hey v1k0d3n o/ | 15:02 |
| raymaika | hey guys o/ | 15:02 |
| v1k0d3n | on phone though so very limited. Still transitioning...moving this week. | 15:03 |
| alraddarla | o/ | 15:03 |
| srwilkers | alright, we can get started and just open for discussion and see what else comes up after what's in the agenda | 15:05 |
| srwilkers | #topic LMA spec | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "LMA spec (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| srwilkers | i drafted a spec for an LMA approach for openstack-helm, and can be found here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482687/ | 15:05 |
| srwilkers | id really like some additional operations-focused feedback on what's there so far | 15:06 |
| dulek | While I cannot provide much ops feedback on that, I sign up for reviews and testing of the implementation. | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | awesome dulek. :) | 15:07 |
| srwilkers | once we get some more feedback on the spec and can identify some solid operational requirements for configuration, it'll make tying up some of the services that are in flight much easier | 15:09 |
| srwilkers | and also welcome those interested in helping get them to the finish line if anyones interested in contributing on that front | 15:10 |
| alraddarla | \o/ | 15:10 |
| srwilkers | thats all ive got for this topic, unless there are other points someone would like to raise :) | 15:11 |
| srwilkers | #topic Memcached resiliency | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Memcached resiliency (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:12 | |
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| srwilkers | floors yours xek | 15:12 |
| xek | alanmeadows pointed me to an issue with memcached which I would like to work on | 15:13 |
| xek | the issue is that memcached is not clustered in any way right now | 15:13 |
| xek | I wanted to bring the blueprint to your attontion so that there is a consensus in the right solution | 15:13 |
| xek | in short, I want to introduce mcrouter into the mix and change the defaults so that all services point to mcrouter | 15:14 |
| xek | it can then be configured to talk to more then one memcached instance in any way which is desired by the operator | 15:14 |
| xek | to meet distribution and ha requirements | 15:14 |
| portdirect | sounds sane | 15:15 |
| portdirect | reading bp now | 15:15 |
| dulek | I can see that "official" chart uses just a service for load balancing: https://github.com/kubernetes/charts/tree/master/stable/memcached | 15:15 |
| dulek | xek: Is what you're proposing a better idea? | 15:15 |
| v1k0d3n | too bad we're not just using upstream for some things like this. | 15:16 |
| portdirect | I would have thought so - a service really has limitations here | 15:16 |
| v1k0d3n | but control can be an issue too. i see both sides. | 15:16 |
| portdirect | and does not really do what we need | 15:16 |
| dulek | Okay, I see no replication in this upstream chart, so it's rather poor | 15:17 |
| xek | dulek, with default round-robin balancing you can wind up in a situation where you only use one memcached server or save in one instance and try to read from another | 15:17 |
| portdirect | it replicates but relys on a 'headless service' | 15:17 |
| portdirect | which doesnt allow reconfig/scaling etc after a pod that consumes it has started | 15:18 |
| dulek | Also a funny thing is that Kolla has single replica hardcoded: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/helm/microservice/memcached-deployment/templates/memcached-deployment.yaml#L33 | 15:18 |
| xek | memcached itself doesn't replicate key-values | 15:19 |
| portdirect | xek: I'd be happy to approve this, but obviously would want consensus | 15:19 |
| srwilkers | +1 | 15:20 |
| srwilkers | yeah, this blueprint is great. id also approve moving forward with this approach | 15:22 |
| lrensing | i'm good with you taking it on xek | 15:23 |
| portdirect | so we have consensus? | 15:23 |
| lrensing | i look forward to seeing memcached move forward :) | 15:23 |
| lrensing | yes from me | 15:23 |
| portdirect | nice one xek :) memcached has been a thorn in my oslo side too long :D | 15:24 |
| srwilkers | any other comments or concerns here? | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | #topic PTG planning | 15:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:26 | |
| srwilkers | so the PTG is less than two months away, and i think it'd be a good idea to start drafting up the items we'd like to target for those who will be present that week | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | since we're a hosted project, we won't be allocated reserved space and we won't be included on the schedule | 15:27 |
| srwilkers | but i've been told we're free to use the common spaces to meet, and we're responsible for advertising where we'll be hanging out while we're there | 15:28 |
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| * portdirect votes for by the pool | 15:28 | |
| srwilkers | here's an etherpad we can use to add ideas/topics to between now and then: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-denver-ptg-topics | 15:29 |
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| srwilkers | and i'll make sure to bring it up each weekly meeting as a friendly reminder | 15:29 |
| lrensing | that'll be good srwilkers | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | really looking forward to seeing some of you there :) | 15:30 |
| srwilkers | but that's all i have wrt the PTG | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | since we're out of topics, we've got ~30 minutes for any open discussion items | 15:32 |
| srwilkers | #topic open discussion | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:32 | |
| lrensing | i'll kick this one off since it's been a topic in irc this morning- | 15:32 |
| lrensing | the ceph chart has been going through a few changes this week and some community members have had some issues getting it redeployed | 15:33 |
| raymaika | o/ | 15:33 |
| lrensing | i believe current master is stable again, but if anyone finds any issues with it, bring it up in IRC so we can discuss, and if not much comes from that discussion please file a bug in launchpad so we can address it there | 15:34 |
| portdirect | I've got 2 labs running from master (deployed in last 18 hours) | 15:35 |
| portdirect | both seem stable - though I would not be surprised if there a few gremlins in there - dependant on network config | 15:35 |
| lrensing | ++ | 15:36 |
| portdirect | its worth noting that we use ceph for all gate jobs - so it is tested for both pvc, and glance over 140 times a day :D | 15:36 |
| lrensing | also, configuring ceph to use disks instead of directories is coming soon | 15:36 |
| portdirect | but thats on the same hw config.... | 15:36 |
| lrensing | but anyways - thats all i had on that | 15:37 |
| raymaika | yeah, I'm trying to find the root cause of my problem. I'll let you know if I manage to fix it or find something that points to a more specific problem than the logs I posted this morning. | 15:40 |
| dulek | As the discussion died a bit - I've rebased Keystone fernet tokens patch again if anyone is interested: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463730/ | 15:42 |
| srwilkers | awesome dulek. we'll have a look at that today for sure | 15:44 |
| portdirect | dulek: I 'm gonna enable cronjobs in the k8s api, and update docs accordingly today | 15:45 |
| dulek | portdirect: That would be awesome. | 15:45 |
| portdirect | at that point I'd really like to make this the default and merge | 15:45 |
| portdirect | thanks for all your work on this dude :D | 15:45 |
| srwilkers | agreed. looking forward to getting it to the finish line | 15:46 |
| dulek | :) | 15:46 |
| srwilkers | any other topics? | 15:47 |
| lrensing | none from me - given the long pause i think we can wrap this one up a little early | 15:48 |
| srwilkers | alright. ill go ahead and end the meeting. thanks everyone :) | 15:49 |
| srwilkers | #endmeeting | 15:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 18 15:49:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-07-18-15.00.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-07-18-15.00.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2017/openstack_helm.2017-07-18-15.00.log.html | 15:50 |
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