Wednesday, 2017-02-15

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topol#startmeeting interop_challenge14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 14:00:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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topolPing dmellado tongli gema zhipengh markvoelker daniela_ebert skazi luzC14:00
tonglio/14:00
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markvoelker_o/14:00
topolHi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today?14:00
skazio/14:00
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gcbhi everyone14:01
hogepodgeo/14:01
gcbThis is my first time, I'm ChangBo Guo14:01
zhipengo/14:01
topolHi ChanBo Guo, welcome!14:01
tongli@gcb, welcome.14:01
topolgcb skazi hodgepodge14:01
topolgcb skazi hodgepodge14:02
* topol Adding thse folks to my ping list14:02
skazitopol: I was there already :)14:02
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topolskazi you are there twice cuz I like you best :-)14:03
topolskazi its fixed :-014:03
topolThe agenda for today can be found at:14:03
topol# https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-02-1514:03
topolWe can use this same etherpad to take notes14:03
topolAgenda:14:03
topol    #topic Review last meeting action items14:03
topol     #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-02-08-14.01.html14:03
topol    all please review patches #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/interop-workloads,n,z14:04
tongliWe have now 4 open including the kubernetes workload (draft).14:04
topolwowsers! We have lots of patches to review! thats awesome14:04
tongliI am guilty of tox version one. did not have time to try various versions.14:05
tonglineed to do that.14:05
topolK, I have been guilty too. I will start reviewing14:05
topolany concerns about the patches we need to discuss here or do folks just need to find time to review?14:06
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topollet us know14:06
tonglialso need to try various ansible version against kubernetes workload as well.14:06
topolnext action item:  dmellado to push a new patch for #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409180/14:07
tongliI will really appreciate it if someone else can take that action, I mean setup env with different ansible versions and try to run the workload to see what ansible versions we can support.14:07
tonglishould be fairly easy if you do in a VM.14:08
tongliother patches are fairly small, please run and review.14:08
topoltongli, so hopefully someone can take the different ansible version action item. if not could you help someone to do this at PTG if they dont know how to do this? With some pair rogramming?14:09
tongli@topol, yes, absolutely.14:09
tongliwanted to get the kubernetes workload out for people to see where we are going.14:10
topolso folks even if you are not sure how to do this perhaps we can look at this at PTG14:10
topoltongli, worst case put it on our PTG agenda :-)14:10
tonglistill need a bit more work on the workload such as dns if people think it is needed, load balancer maybe.14:10
tongliI think I already have it there.14:11
topol#action all, please look at the new kubernetes workload patch.   I can see us running this at the Boston Summit :-)14:11
topolback to the action items14:11
topoldemellado we are still waiting on an updated patch from you correct?14:12
topolI think so.  tongll can you follow up with dmellado?14:13
tongliI think we will definitely need to add Kubernetes UI addon to the workload, so that there will be stuff showing on screen, other than the command line.14:13
tongli@topol, I thought that one was merged.14:13
tongliwe can do specs/blueprint now.14:14
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tonglieveryone can register blueprint.14:14
tonglihttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/interop-workloads14:15
topoltongli looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409180/ has not been merged yet14:15
tonglinotice the blue link in the middle of the page, you can click on that to register blueprint.14:15
tongliand I already have one patch for the NFV blueprint posted last night I think.14:15
tonglineed to start reviewing that.14:15
topoltongli, can we hold the bp discussion til later. I cant multitask like that14:16
tonglino, I did not do the nfv blueprint, I mean we have one NFV blueprint.14:16
tonglihaha. ok.14:16
topolso on my gerrit review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409180/ still has not merged. Am I wrong14:16
tongliPTG agenda is here. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-1114:16
tongli@topol, you are not wrong, that is the ansible version one we just talked about above.14:17
topolK.14:17
topolmoving on14:17
topoltongli to follow up to make sure commit message gets updated in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430631/14:17
topolthis looks done14:18
tongliyeah. both me and mark oked it.14:18
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topoltongli excellent! its merged!14:20
topolHelenYao, zhipengh_,tongli to work together to get a blueprint submitted14:20
topoltongli you may now talk about blueprints14:20
topol:-)14:20
yaohelanI am using this id as I switched the client. Hi, everyone14:21
tonglithe patch for NFV blueprint has been submitted last night, we need all parties from all companies to start reviewing it14:21
yaohelanthe bp is submitted14:21
topoltongli, what the link?14:21
zhipengit is on the etherpad14:22
tonglihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/434042/14:22
topol#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434042/14:22
topolK great, #action all please review the blueprint #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434042/14:23
tongliHelen, does that require something special?14:23
topolLots of stuff happening right before we meet for PTG. This is great!14:23
zhipengplease feedback what do you think is missing from the BP14:23
tonglisince at the end it says a person can make a call.14:23
zhipengtongli we just need a sip client to be installed14:24
zhipengit should be rather easy14:24
yaohelantongli: just a calling client is needed, x-lite can be a candidate14:24
tonglican we add that to the blueprint as requirement or something?14:24
yaohelansure14:24
topoltongli +++ yes good to mentiont that14:24
tonglior dependency.14:25
yaohelanI will submit a patch with it14:25
yaohelanamend14:25
tongliplease thanks.14:25
topolthanks yaohelan14:25
tongliyeah amend patch.14:25
topolOk, great14:25
topolNow to todays agenda which I think we magically already covered most of it:14:26
yaohelanyour feedback is really appreciated14:26
topol   #topic  Kubernetes workload is now submitted. status: WIP review here: #ink https://review.openstack.org/#/c/433874/14:26
topolwe covered that :-)14:26
topol#topic Discuss the NFV blueprint14:26
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topolwe covered that14:26
topol    #topic Update from China Chapter Meeting14:27
tongliThey had a meeting last week. the meeting will be bi-weekly for now.14:27
topolK, anything interesting to report back?14:27
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tonglithe meeting has specified a person also to work on NFV use case, I have not hear back from.14:28
tonglihttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-02-08-01.30.html14:28
tonglithat is the meeting summary.14:28
tonglithey are running existing workloads and have moved onto dockerswarm.14:29
topoltongli, how did we get an english meeting summary?14:29
tonglibecause of that, they have found some issues and provided two patches, I think.14:29
topoldid you translate?14:29
tonglithe language used were mixed,14:29
tonglispecially for actions I think people just used English.14:29
tongliyou noticed that the some of the action lines are blank.14:30
topoltongli, that is a huge help, please ask them to keep doing that14:30
tongliI bet these lines were in Chinese.14:30
topoltongli I trust your judgement on this topic14:30
tongliI guess we just found the bug on the bot.14:30
topolK, might want to tell fungi14:31
tonglibut this is mixed in both lang14:31
tonglihttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2017/interop_challenge.2017-02-08-01.30.log.html14:31
topoltongli, any other updates from that team. Looks like they are making good progress catching up14:31
tonglithey spend quite a lot of time talking about the April summit.14:32
topolK14:32
tonglilooks like it will be a big meeting.14:32
tonglithe on stage demo is their focal point now. you know that task will take a lot of effort.14:32
topoltongli, yes I've been there :-)14:33
topol#topic open discussion14:33
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topolanything  folks want to discuss. Last meeting before we meet at PTG...14:33
tongliany other requirement on kubernetes workload, I am thinking adding UI addon.14:33
tongliprobably load balancer, but if you have other ideas, please let me know.14:33
topolUI is always good14:34
tongliyes. I think I can add next couple of days. and also address few review comments.14:34
topolpretty quiet crowd today14:34
topolhow many folks are going to the PTG?14:35
hogepodgeI'll be there14:35
* markvoelker_ wonders if everyone is just in a sugar coma from Valentine's day14:35
hogepodge(At 6 am I'm very quiet)14:35
markvoelker_I'll be there through Wednesday evening14:35
tongli    Brad Topol14:35
tongli    Tong Li14:35
tongli    Daniel Mellado14:35
tongli    Luz Cazares (depends on time and other groups commitments)14:35
tongli    Howard Huang14:35
tongli    Chris Hoge14:35
tongli    Mark T. Voelker14:35
tongli    Rocky Grober14:35
tongli    Jason shi14:35
tongli    Yumeng Bao14:35
tongliThat is the list on the etherpad at present. not sure how much it will be changed.14:35
topoldid you add your name to the participant list and do you know when we are meeting?  Hint its tuesday afternoon in the refstack room :-)14:35
topolSee #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2017-01-11 for details14:36
tonglimy number is 919-521-0306 and wechat is email4tong just incase you need to contact for our meeting.14:36
topoltongli good idea. my number is 919-656-1478 and @bradtopol on twitter14:37
tongliI know some of the folks from China may not be able to make phone calls while in US. please contact me by wechat.14:37
topolso between tongli and I hopefully folks have contacts if they have questions14:38
topolanything else for today or folks can go back to eating Valentines day candy :-)14:38
tonglihaha.14:39
tonglinot from me. I think we are good.14:39
topolK. safe travels evryone. looking forward to seeing folks in person at the PTG next week!14:39
topol#endmeeting14:40
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dmelladooh, missed the meeting14:51
* dmellado got messed up with the UTC stuff14:51
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ricolin#startmeeting heat15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Feb 15 15:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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ricolin#topic roll call15:00
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therveo/15:01
zanebhowdy o/15:01
ramishrahi15:01
fengxia41103hi everyone15:01
cwolferhhello15:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda15:02
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-02-08_1500_UTC.2915:02
thervericolin, Adding something...15:03
ricolintherve: :)15:03
therveSo that you reload the page15:04
therve(We should switch to an etherpad btw)15:04
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zanebtherve: heh, that's what I was going to add :)15:04
ricolinmanila cephs one15:04
ricolin#topic taging heat-translate15:05
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ricolinis spzala around?15:05
zanebhaven't seen him today or yesterday15:05
ricolinamoralej is asking the tag plan for heat-translate project after release15:06
ricolinWonder who is the right person to make that plan?:)15:06
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zanebricolin: maybe email spzala, I think he is the right person to make that plan15:07
therveYeah, he's rarely on IRC AFAICT15:07
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ricolinsorry, connection break15:08
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zanebricolin: maybe email spzala, I think he is the right person to make that plan15:09
ricolinOkey15:09
ricolinI think so too15:09
ramishraHow is it released/tagged? I don't see it in the releases repo.15:09
shardyhey all15:09
ricolinramishra: by git push i think?15:10
ricolinshardy: hi!:)15:10
zanebtherve: he is usually on irc, he pinged me on Monday but I was out & then he hasn't been around for a couple of days15:10
therveHum ok15:10
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thervezaneb, Oh I didn't know his nick :)15:11
ricolinWill find him!15:12
ricolin#topic Logo announcement15:12
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ricolin#link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kon1k7707ob2mq2/AAAsGHWtln4y8uY9a5YiVMbaa?dl=015:12
ricolinWe officially have a new logo15:13
ricolinThey said there will be stickers in PTG15:13
ricolinfeel free to use it!!15:13
zanebI guess we're gonna be stuck with the ALL CAPS crowd forever now :/15:14
zaneb<3 the logo though15:14
fengxia41103cool15:14
ricolinzaneb: so true!15:14
ricolin#topic https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434030/ ocata backport15:15
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therveSo yeah a small change to the manila resource15:15
zanebramishra: what is the status of the Ocata release?15:15
zanebare we still in RC?15:16
ramishrazaneb: it's done15:16
therveWe're in rc115:16
ramishraWe are not doing rc215:16
ramishraso it's final15:16
zanebcan we change our mind?15:17
therveOK so I guess this patch is out?15:17
zanebI tend to agree with tiantian that this should not go in after the release15:17
therveramishra, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430056/ what about that one?15:17
zanebotoh this is a zero-risk change that I have no objection to going in *before* the release, even if it is arguably a feature15:18
shardyIMO it's not a feature, but it is an interface change so probably can't be backported unless we're willing to do an RC2 before the GA15:18
ramishratherve: That's normal backport to stable15:18
zanebshardy++15:18
shardypersonally I'd favor just tagging an RC2, particularly if there's anything else waiting around for backport15:19
therveHum15:19
zanebditto15:19
* shardy would say that though as TripleO needs it ;)15:19
therveramishra, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/431868/ got merged too15:19
therveIt's a bit weird to release ocata with changes in the pipeline. It feels releases are slightly cheaper that time than later on15:19
ramishratherve: none of those changes are critical, I mean we can surely backport those biugs15:20
ramishratherve: if we want rc2 we can do it though15:20
therveramishra, What's the argument against not doing it?15:21
zanebtherve: you mean the argument *for* not doing it?15:21
ramishratherve: I don't have one against, unless we agree that there is one for it15:21
thervezaneb, Yes :)15:21
therveI think it's worth doing, we can merge the 2 pending patches and make rc215:22
zanebthe argument for doing rc2 is that we have this Manila feature which is inaccessible to users, and if we don't do an rc2 then they'll have to wait until Pike to get it15:22
therveThat's very low risk15:22
shardyTo be clear, not backporting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434030 does have a significant user impact if you care about using manila with ceph15:22
ramishrazaneb: I don't see that as a feature though15:23
thervezaneb, I think ramishra says that we can merge it in stable later on15:23
shardyramishra: I think the problem is we shouldn't really change constraints for a stable release15:24
ramishraok, then, if we all agree, I can do an rc215:24
ricolinrc2 sounds like the way to go, do we have any other patches also require to taget beside these two?15:24
zanebyes, we generally try to avoid creating interoperability problems between clouds running the same version of heat15:25
shardyerm.. on an unrelated note, how do folks feel about landing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/434185/ to newton? :)15:26
zanebramishra: just +2'd https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430056/1 - I'll let you approve15:26
shardyIf we can't do that I'll have to block a bugfix backport for TripleO, but it does very slightly relax the map_replace interface15:26
ramishrazaneb: sure, let's land some of the ocata patches and I'll tag rc2 tomorrow15:27
thervericolin, We're good!15:29
ricolin#topic federation and trusts15:29
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lbragstado/15:29
ricolinit's yours15:29
lbragstadhi folks - i'm in the middle of scheduling sessions for the PTG next week15:30
lbragstadcurious if heat is still interested in a session on federation15:30
lbragstadand if so - what times work best for your team?15:30
ramishralbragstad: we are definitely interested. Is this a cross-project session?15:31
lbragstadramishra well - I can schedule it in one of the cross-project rooms15:31
lbragstad#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms15:32
ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-pike-ptg-sessions15:32
lbragstadbut I'll need to know how many contributors will be there from heat15:32
ricolinI do have a draft schedule here15:32
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ramishralbragstad: Tuesday would probably be good, we've heat sessions from Wed-Fri15:33
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ricolinwe can do it in Morning of Wed-Fri15:33
lbragstadramishra we will only have a few contributors in town on Tuesday - most of us will be in transit then :(15:33
ricolinjust not 11-12 of Wed-Thu15:34
lbragstadwould right away at 9am on wednesday work?15:34
lbragstadfor an hour?15:34
therveNope15:34
lbragstadthursday?15:35
lbragstad9:00 - 9:50 on thursday*15:35
therveWe linked our schedule FWIW :)15:35
ricolinWe do can move some inner session to make the room15:36
lbragstadyeah - most of your morning look full, i'm not seeing much on wednesday afternoon?15:37
ricolinwill 9:00 - 9:50 on thursday* works for all?15:37
lbragstadmornings*15:37
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ramishraricolin: so you plan to move py3 support session to a different solt?15:37
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ricolinLet's do it than:)15:37
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EmilienMo/15:38
ricolinyes, if we do trust session15:38
shardyI'd like to be included in the session, so if we can avoid any of the TripleO sessions with my name assigned, that would be good:15:38
shardyhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-pike15:38
therveOK let's do thursday morning15:39
ricolinOk15:40
lbragstadhow many heat/tripleo contributors do you expect to be there for that particular discussion?15:40
shardyIf EmilienM agrees we could possibly use some of the Heat-Mistral-TripleO session, provided we don't need the whole time to discuss Federation15:40
shardylbragstad: well primarily me because I worked on the initial trust integration for Heat, but am now more involved with TripleO15:41
EmilienMthat or create a new shared session15:41
shardylbragstad: but I'm sure other folks will be interested (including the Mistral folks, who also use trusts, or plan to, IIRC)15:41
shardyEmilienM: yeah, that might be best if we can find a convenient time15:41
lbragstadshardy good to know15:41
EmilienMtbh, I'll let you decide what you like15:42
EmilienMour agenda is pretty flexible and I haven't heard about much constraints yet15:42
shardyricolin: I can do the first session on Thursday, I can probably skip the performance profiles session if needed15:43
shardyif that time works for everyone else15:43
EmilienMso feel free to pick a slot on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tripleo-ptg-pike and create a new session with heat folks15:43
ricolinshardy: nice:)15:43
lbragstadI'll schedule a room for 9:00 - 9:50 on thursday in Savannah?15:43
EmilienMshardy, ricolin, please look on Thursday, we have a free slot at 16:10 - 17:0015:43
ricolinlbragstad: could you please kindly reserve the room?:)15:43
shardyEmilienM: could we move the performance profiles one to there?15:44
ricolinlbragstad: also a ML will be great:)15:44
lbragstadWe can use some of that time for federation and trusts, if we end early, heat/mistral/tripleo can use the room for additional discussions15:44
EmilienMshardy: please do it15:44
shardythen we have no conflict with this proposed heat/keystone session15:44
shardyEmilienM: ack, will do, thanks!15:44
EmilienMshardy: feel free to update the etherpad at your convenience15:44
ricolinok:)15:45
ricolin#topic PTG Schedule discuss15:45
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shardyEmilienM: done15:45
shardylbragstad: sounds good, thanks!15:45
ricolinkeep scheduling!15:46
ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-pike-ptg-sessions15:46
ricolinso we have three cross project settle15:46
lbragstadshardy ricolin done - https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Pike-PTG-Discussion-Rooms I'll send a note out a little later today with some more information15:46
ricolinheat feed back, openstack orchestration, and keystone one:)15:47
ricolinlbragstad: thanks!!!15:47
ricolinAny idea on the draft schedule in etherpad?15:48
ricolinbesides 23 morning?:)15:48
ricolinNice :)15:49
ricolinI will update the schedule later15:49
ricolin#topic Open discussion15:49
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ricolinI'm thinking maybe we should block the wait condition test for now till we fix it?15:51
shardythanks ricolin, lbragstad - I'll also pass details to the mistral team, as I think they will be interested15:51
lbragstadshardy awesome15:51
ricolinshardy: thx:)15:51
thervericolin, The signaling one?15:52
ramishraricolin: +1, that test does not do anything other than testing that broken functionality15:52
ricolintherve: yes15:52
therve6% failure rate15:54
therve(http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/job/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-convg-mysql-lbaasv2-ubuntu-xenial)15:54
therveA bit annoying indeed15:54
zanebricolin: maybe just crank down the number of signallers, rather than disabling the whole test?15:54
ricolinzaneb: okey, I can do it15:54
ricolinand if it's not working we can discuss this again in PTG15:55
therve#link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/test/heat_integrationtests.functional.test_os_wait_condition.OSWaitCondition.test_create_stack_with_multi_signal_waitcondition15:55
therveA good URL to check over time15:55
therveIt got much worse the past month15:56
ramishrathe multiple signal 6 is misleading, actually the reason text for signal with id 5 is updated when the duplicate signal is received15:57
ricolinOkey, Time's up. Let's move back to heat. We will definitely discuss this more in PTG...15:59
ramishraI would think we can enable the test when it's fixed rather than changing the test, but if that can help reducing the failures...15:59
ricolinThanks guys for join!!15:59
shardysee you next week everyone15:59
ricolin#endmeeting15:59
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therveThanks!15:59
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