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| rosmaita | Courtesy reminder: Cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 at 1400 UTC | 13:59 |
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| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney walshh_ jbernard ^^ | 13:59 |
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| rosmaita | also: lseki sfernand rajinir ^^ | 14:00 |
| lseki | o/ | 14:00 |
| walshh_ | hi | 14:00 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 19 14:00:32 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:00 |
| eharney | hi | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 14:01 |
| eharney | hi | 14:01 |
| jungleboyj | O/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | looking like a good turnout | 14:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's get started | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
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| rosmaita | a bunch of business items today | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements - Vancouver PTG head count | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements - Vancouver PTG head count (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:02 | |
| rosmaita | reminder - need a head count for the Vancouver 2020 PTG (8-11 June) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | please add yourself to the etherpad | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-victoria-ptg-planning | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | also, feel free to start adding topics | 14:03 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements - virtual mid-cycle part 2 | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements - virtual mid-cycle part 2 (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | as discussed last week, will be the week of 16 March | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | watch the ML for a poll - hopefully in the next day or two | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i need to figure out what went wrong with the time zones in doodle for the volume-local-cache meeting poll before sending it out | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements - possible data loss situation (bug 1852106) | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements - possible data loss situation (bug 1852106) (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | bug 1852106 in Glance "Possible data loss from createImage action" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1852106 | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i think i mentioned this at the end of last week's meeting | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | kind of an unlikely scenario, i think | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | details and a quick workaround were sent out on the ML yesterday | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012641.html | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | it only applies to train (or if someone is running a cloud out of master) | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | btw, the main nova patch addressing this merged last night | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707738/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | if you have a ussuri devstack around set up to do encrypted volumes | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | it would be worth giving that change a workout | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i'm not worried about it preventing direct boot of an image of an encrypted volume | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | but i'm a little worried about it working *too* well, that is, preventing a legitimate use case | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | all the obvious stuff seems to work | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i think i should probably spend some time working on some tempest tests | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | #topic releases | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:06 | |
| rosmaita | cinder 16.0.0.0b1 has been released for milestone-2 | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | thanks to smcginnis for fixing some bugs around config and docs and the kilo branch (!) that were blocking the release | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | cinderclient and brick cinderclient extension also had their first py3-only releases | 14:06 |
| smcginnis | Right place, wrong time? | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | 6.0.0 for client, 1.0.0 for the extension | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | these aren't the final ussuri releases, we just wanted the py3-only versions available so that they can get a workout in the gate | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #topic releases - os-brick | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases - os-brick (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:07 | |
| rosmaita | would like to get a py3-only release out there | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | again, this won't be the final ussuri release | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | let's take a quick look at whether there's anything that would be good to get in | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/os-brick+status:open+branch:master | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | i think 697564 was being held by zuul because its parent hadn't merged | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | i just did a recheck, it should be ok now | 14:08 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | my main question here is: is there anything we should wait for, keeping in mind that this is *not* the actual ussuri release | 14:09 |
| eharney | nothing jumps out at me as crucial | 14:10 |
| e0ne | looks like os-brick is in a good shape to be released | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | looks like 699861 may be ready | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/699861/ | 14:11 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, given that this isn't the final release it looks pretty good. | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ok, great | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | #topic releases - final rocky release | 14:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "releases - final rocky release (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:12 | |
| rosmaita | this is supposed to happen soon | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | looks like we've got 3 unmerged patches | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | Support Incremental Backup Completion In RBD | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/705703 | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | Fix: Create new cache entry when xtremio reaches snap limit | 14:12 |
| jungleboyj | 699861 is on its way. | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/707341 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: thanks, that was sitting for a long time | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | Tell reno to ignore the kilo branch | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/707498 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | (that last one is a no-brainer, we can't cut a release without it) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | (but we need the cherry-pick to stein merged first:) | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707497/1 | 14:13 |
| jungleboyj | What about the Comment on 705703 from Lucian? | 14:14 |
| enriquetaso | i'm working on it | 14:14 |
| enriquetaso | so far, I wasn't able to reproduce it in stein/master | 14:14 |
| enriquetaso | i'm going to try with rocky | 14:14 |
| eharney | that's probably a latent bug in the object code | 14:15 |
| enriquetaso | if someone would like to reproduce it too, it would be great:) | 14:15 |
| smcginnis | enriquetaso: The reno one? You may need to force updating reno to the latest. | 14:15 |
| eharney | the backup fix could make it more likely to occur, hard to say | 14:15 |
| enriquetaso | smcginnis, about Lucian's comment in 705703 | 14:16 |
| enriquetaso | what do you suggest eharney ? | 14:16 |
| eharney | it would be nice to know where it actually happened -- given that rbd incr backup is totally broken without this patch, if it only happens sometimes when using incr backup, we're still better off just landing 705703 | 14:17 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 14:17 |
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| eharney | it also happened on windows, which, no idea what that tells us | 14:18 |
| enriquetaso | ok | 14:18 |
| enriquetaso | oh.. | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | He he he. | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | so it sounds like it would be ok to merge into stable/rocky as enriquetaso continues to investigate? | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | (which investigation can consist of asking lucien to give us more info) | 14:19 |
| jungleboyj | https://gph.is/1gTrfDd | 14:19 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 14:19 |
| eharney | export_record is in the traceback, i guess we could try testing backup import/export | 14:20 |
| lpetrut | hey, looking at that trace, I think that the parent field should be part of the OPTIONAL_FIELDS list: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/objects/backup.py#L152 | 14:20 |
| lpetrut | someone mentioned Windows so a notification popped up :D | 14:21 |
| enriquetaso | I've tried http://paste.openstack.org/raw/789482/ eharney | 14:21 |
| enriquetaso | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1862635 | 14:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1862635 in Cinder "Cinder backup export broken" [Undecided,New] | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: what's the absolute deadline for final rocky release? | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | for some reason 24 February is in my head, but i don't know if it's that day, or anytime that week | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | Yes, theoretically Feb 24. | 14:24 |
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| rosmaita | ok, well, i think we can merge enriquetaso's patch and hopefully come up with a bugfix before monday | 14:25 |
| jungleboyj | WFM | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so, the above patches are the only things i see for *all* cinder components for stable/rocky | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | but i am not 100% confident in my gerrit query abilities | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | so if anyone here has anything they are watching to get into stable/rocky | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | say something now | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, i think we are looking good for final rocky release | 14:26 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Thanks for keeping such good track of all of that. | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | just trying to do my job :D | 14:26 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's all from me | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | #topic friendly review request | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "friendly review request (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:27 | |
| rosmaita | going out of order here | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | becasue this should be quick | 14:27 |
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| rosmaita | e0ne has a request for people to look at | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/630305 | 14:27 |
| e0ne | rosmaita: thanks | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | last patch required for generic backups feature! | 14:27 |
| e0ne | this patch was waiting for reviews few month | 14:28 |
| e0ne | months | 14:28 |
| e0ne | but now I updated it with unit-tests | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | that makes it much sexier | 14:28 |
| jungleboyj | Ooooh, I like a good unit test. | 14:28 |
| e0ne | I've added unit-tests only for a *new* code, so some old functions are still not covered :( | 14:28 |
| e0ne | anyway, I hope to. get some feedback on it | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | thanks e0ne | 14:29 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. I will take a look. Would be great to get that feature in. | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | any other comments? | 14:29 |
| e0ne | I'll propose few next patches soon with new unit tests and generic backup implementation | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | very cool! | 14:29 |
| e0ne | hope to get it ready for Ussuri | 14:30 |
| jungleboyj | Yay! | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | #topic volume-local-cache | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "volume-local-cache (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:30 | |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: that's you | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | quick question first, though | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | hi team, I have updated the spec based on the cross team meeting with nova | 14:30 |
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| rosmaita | did you send an email for nova spec-freeze exception? | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:31 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I saw that go out. | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | ok, i missed it | 14:31 |
| LiangFang | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-February/012615.html | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | thanks | 14:31 |
| LiangFang | I will attend Nova meeting tomorrow | 14:31 |
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| rosmaita | ok, great | 14:31 |
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| LiangFang | Nova team is giving +1, and wait cinder team to go first | 14:31 |
| jungleboyj | He he. | 14:32 |
| LiangFang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689070/ | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684556/ | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | (that's the cinder one) | 14:33 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will commit to re-reading the cinder spec today | 14:33 |
| jungleboyj | Me too. | 14:34 |
| LiangFang | my thinking is: could it be an experimental feature in Ussuri, so customers can test it | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | eharney: it would be helpful if you have time to verify that the encryption part is OK by you | 14:34 |
| eharney | ok | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | thanks | 14:35 |
| LiangFang | it looks like a big feature, and let's improve it in next release | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: that sounds reasonable | 14:35 |
| tosky | is any scenario tempest test planned for the feature? | 14:35 |
| tosky | I'd say it would be almost a requirement | 14:35 |
| LiangFang | I just tests in my Openstack running time environment, so tempest test run yet. | 14:36 |
| LiangFang | no tempest test run yet | 14:36 |
| eharney | i wonder what kind of new tempest test we would want for it | 14:36 |
| eharney | we definitely would want to create a job that runs a lot of existing tests on this config | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | eharney: ++ | 14:37 |
| LiangFang | ++ | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | we'd need a node with open-cas running, and then just use the current tests | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | although i don't know that we have a lot of tests that check data integrity? | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, agreed | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | should I provider such node? | 14:38 |
| eharney | opencas is open source software right? | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: can you run open-cas even without the SSDs | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | just using node memory or something | 14:39 |
| LiangFang | yes, we can use DRAM as cache | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, because we don't need to know about performance | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | just that stuff does not blow up when the cache is being used | 14:40 |
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| LiangFang | yes, we even can /dev/loop1 as cache | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | cool, that would do it | 14:40 |
| eharney | we probably want some devstack support to install it with a basic config, and then we can create a zuul job for it | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | that sounds right | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | so how does this sound | 14:41 |
| LiangFang | inspur seems interest with this feature, not sure what the deploy tool they are using | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | experimental feature -> zuul job -> finish feature | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | that is, don't require the zuul job for this spec | 14:42 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds fair. | 14:42 |
| eharney | makes sense | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok, i'll be sure to mention this on the review | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | tosky: thanks for bringing this up | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | nice to have someone worried about testing in the room! | 14:43 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:43 |
| tosky | a lot of people around are worried about testing too - I'm just noisy | 14:43 |
| tosky | :) | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | rosmaita: should I provide test node? | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | I know a team from Intel is providing CI node | 14:44 |
| LiangFang | oh, may be the same team with RSD | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | well, my main concern for the experimental feature is that having its code there doesn't break normal cinder | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | so our current tests should cover that | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | ok... thanks | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | i guess i'm not so interested in a test node as much as what tosky and eharney suggested | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | make it possible to run open-cas in a devstack with no fancy hardware | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | and run our tempest tests against it | 14:46 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | ++ | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | ok, any general comments from anyone? | 14:46 |
| tosky | rosmaita: I guess that if a 3rd-party CI would like to setup such environment with real hardware, they will be more than welcome | 14:46 |
| tosky | in addition to the open-cas job | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | sure | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | the problem is that those things come and go | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | while devstack is forever | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | but yes, LiangFang if you know of someone who wants to set up a 3rd party CI with SSDs and stuff, please encourage them | 14:48 |
| LiangFang | rosmaita: ok | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | gibi comments in Nova spec | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | saying he want to see +2s in Cinder spec......... | 14:50 |
| LiangFang | :) | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | what time is the nova meeting tomorrow? | 14:50 |
| LiangFang | sorry to say that | 14:50 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:50 |
| LiangFang | seems the same time of today | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i'll review today | 14:51 |
| LiangFang | 14:00 UTC (#openstack-meeting) | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | it looks like you've addressed all the points that came up in the meeting | 14:51 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | so i anticipate a +2 | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | unless someone notices a major problem that we've all missed | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | i think we'd be able to require clarifications in a follow up | 14:52 |
| LiangFang | thanks team | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | no promises, but i am optimistic | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | i know it's late where you are, hopefully you will awaken to good news tomorrow | 14:53 |
| LiangFang | :-Dthanks | 14:53 |
| jungleboyj | Sleep with dreams of caching | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:54 |
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| LiangFang | .......... | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | finally we have time for open discussion, and nobody has anything to say? | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:55 |
| whoami-rajat | :D | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: You are just on top of everything. | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i wish | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | ok, so please look at volume-local-cache spec | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | and e0ne's backup patch | 14:56 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | and stable cores, please look at the 3 reviews for stable/rocky | 14:56 |
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| rosmaita | and enriquetaso is going to investigate lpetrut's bug a bit further | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | anything else? | 14:57 |
| enriquetaso | +1 | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | sounds like we are all done | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | thanks everyone! | 14:58 |
| whoami-rajat | Thanks! | 14:58 |
| enriquetaso | thanks | 14:58 |
| e0ne | see you next week! | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 19 14:59:17 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-19-14.00.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-19-14.00.txt | 14:59 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-02-19-14.00.log.html | 14:59 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 15:00 |
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