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| rosmaita | Courtesy reminder: Cinder meeting in #openstack-meeting-4 at 1400 UTC | 13:59 |
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| rosmaita | jungleboyj rosmaita smcginnis tosky whoami-rajat m5z e0ne geguileo eharney walshh_ jbernard | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting cinder | 14:00 |
| m5z | hi :) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 8 14:00:12 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:00 | |
| tosky | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:00 |
| enriquetaso | hi! | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 14:00 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:00 |
| eharney | hi | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | looking like a good turnout! | 14:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 14:00 |
| walshh_ | hi | 14:00 |
| jungleboyj | Happy New Year! | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | here's the agenda: | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-meetings | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | jungleboyj: same to you | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | #topic announcements - stable releases | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements - stable releases (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:01 | |
| lseki | hi | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat__ | Hi | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | all i have to say is that we had a bunch of releases yesterday from the stable branches | 14:01 |
| kaisers | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | wow, people keep rolling in! | 14:02 |
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| geguileo | and cinderlib v1.0.1 was also released :-) | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | i should have begun with, welcome to the first Cinder meeting of 2020 | 14:02 |
| jungleboyj | New Year's Resolutions. ;-) | 14:02 |
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| rosmaita | i also guess i should say, if you are interested in what was released, consult the handy etherpad | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-releases-tracking | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | #topic updates - virtual midcycle | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates - virtual midcycle (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | yep, the cycle is moving right along! | 14:04 |
| smcginnis | https://releases.openstack.org/teams/cinder.html is also a handy place to see all of our deliverables and release information. | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: ty | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | at the virtual PTG, we decided to hold two virtual midcycles of 2 hours each | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | timing would be around spec freeze (31 Jan 2020 (23:59 UTC) | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | and around "Cinder New Feature Status Checkpoint" (week of 16 March, which is 3 weeks before the final release of client libraries) | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | so time for the first one is almost here | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | question is, do we want to meet the week of 20 January (which is the week after next) or do it the following week, the week of spec freeze? | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i guess a key piece of data is how many proposed specs are unmerged | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/cinder-specs+status:open | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | looks like not too many | 14:06 |
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| rosmaita | so i think we could have the virtual midcycle the last week of january | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | to be clear | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | the point of mentioning the specs was in case we needed to give people feedback | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | but it looks like few enough specs that we can communicate via gerrit | 14:07 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | so, core reviewers, please push to take a look at open specs | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | i will send out a poll via some appropriate medium to set a time | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | i think bluejeans worked ok for the virtual PTG? | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | if anyone has a strong feeling about that, please let me know | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | and i guess we should begin collecting topics | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ussuri-mid-cycle-planning | 14:09 |
| jungleboyj | BlueJeans has worked fine. | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | great | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | We can see in the poll, but last week of January is also FOSDEM. There will be a few OpenStack folks there, but maybe not a lot from this team. | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | Just pointing out as something to be aware of. | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: thanks | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | anyone here planning to be at FOSDEM? | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | guess that's why it's on your mind! | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:11 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | So I guess it won't be a big issue for scheduling then. | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | well, i'm not opposed to the week before | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | if people are motivated enough to get some topics together | 14:12 |
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| rosmaita | my thought is that since it's only 2 hours, we can review the action items from PTG, there are a few things there that need some followup | 14:13 |
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| jungleboyj | Makes sense to me. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Good plan. | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | can we get a sense here right now of which week? | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | options are: | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | 1 - week of 20 january | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | 2 - week after that | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | i'm assuming smcginnis is in favor of 1 | 14:15 |
| LiangFang | option 1 ++ | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat__ | both are fine with me | 14:16 |
| enriquetaso | 1 ++ | 14:16 |
| enriquetaso | both are fine with me too haha | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | the week after that is New year for some asia countries | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | 1 works for me, 2 does not. | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | Oh, great point LiangFang | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: thanks for that info | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | ok, let's go for option 1 | 14:16 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Want to do a poll? | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | If I'm the only one with a conflict, I can catch up later. | 14:17 |
| e0ne | both options are OK for me | 14:17 |
| lseki | both works for me | 14:17 |
| jungleboyj | 1 should be fine for me. | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | well, it looks like nobody is opposed to option #1 | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | so i think let's go with that | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | i'll put a poll for the time together today and send it out | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | and if too many people can't attend any of the options, we can reconsider the week | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | ++ Think that is good to avoid the Chinese New Year conflict. | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | but between FOSDEM and asian New Year, i think option 2 is not so good | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | what jay said | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | #action rosmaita get poll out for virtual midcycle time for week of 20 January | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone. that's all from me | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | #topic Should the iet target be deprecated | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Should the iet target be deprecated (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:19 | |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: that's you | 14:19 |
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| smcginnis | Oh right. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | That was so long ago I forgot about it. :) | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | So from what I can tell, IET is long deprecated. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | I'm not sure anyone uses it anymore, and as far as I could tell, no distros have it be default. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | Though I did not investigate that last claim closely. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | Maybe some of the Red Hat and (former) SUSE folks can confirm that. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | But if that is the case, I'm wondering if we should deprecate that target driver and get it removed. | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | Any thoughts? Feedback? | 14:21 |
| eharney | a quick glance around the web makes it look pretty dead | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | That was my impression. | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | So maybe we can deprecate it and see if anyone says anything? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis: do you want to propose a patch deprecating, and then we can send out the the ML for awareness | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | Then remove it in V. | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | (i am slow typing today) | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | Sure, just need to swap that back into my brain, then I can get something up doing that. :) | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i think that sounds good | 14:23 |
| smcginnis | Awesome, thanks! | 14:24 |
| * smcginnis loves removing code | 14:24 | |
| rosmaita | :D | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | #topic Spec: Volume local cache | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Spec: Volume local cache (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:24 | |
| rosmaita | LiangFang: that's you | 14:24 |
| LiangFang | hi | 14:24 |
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| LiangFang | I have finished the spec and code modification when you are in vacation | 14:25 |
| LiangFang | :) | 14:25 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | and hope it can be reviewed when you are free | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | yes, i need to re-review | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i'll put that near the top of my list | 14:26 |
| LiangFang | the write paper is still in internal review | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | the internal review meeting will be in next Friday | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | Jan 17 | 14:27 |
| LiangFang | will let you know when it pass review | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | was there anything particular you wanted to discuss, or did you just want to give us a reminder to take a look at the spec & patches | 14:27 |
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| LiangFang | no more from me | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | ok, thank you ... i know you've been doing a lot of work on this, so thanks for the reminder | 14:28 |
| LiangFang | ty | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | #topic open discussion | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 14:29 | |
| rosmaita | that's all from the agenda ... | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | anyone have any general concerns they'd like to bring up? | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | There's another spec out there that just feels wrong to me for some reason, but making sure others are aware of it until I have time to think about it more. | 14:29 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700977/ | 14:29 |
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| smcginnis | Adding a backup_id to volumes so when a volume uses the convenience API we added to create a volume directly from backup it records the ID. | 14:30 |
| eharney | it would be useful to maybe add it to some metadata field or description... adding a new column to the volumes table is wrong | 14:30 |
| smcginnis | That's my feeling. | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | i agree, i don't like messing with the DB | 14:31 |
| smcginnis | Metadata would be a much better place for it. | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | and if we add it as metadata, doesn't require a new microversion, is that right? | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | would just show up on the volume-show response | 14:32 |
| smcginnis | Yep. | 14:32 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, that looks like metadata to me. | 14:33 |
| e0ne | btw, can I get some reviews for https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:bp/backup-host-selection-algorigthm? the second patch requires some more unit tests but the first one is ready and had got +2 in the past | 14:34 |
| eharney | don't we record what glance image was used to create a volume somewhere? this sounds similar | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, looks like we have some suggestions for the backup_id proposal | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | e0ne: thanks for bringing that to our attention | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | if there's nothing else, we can adjourn early and go look at https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/cinder+branch:master+topic:bp/backup-host-selection-algorigthm? | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:36 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:36 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 14:37 |
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| rosmaita | (waiting in case someone is typing a long sentence or something) | 14:38 |
| jungleboyj | *Jeopardy Music* | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | ok, thanks everyone! | 14:39 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 14:39 |
| LiangFang | thanks, bye | 14:39 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | #endmeeting | 14:39 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 14:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:39 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 8 14:39:53 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-01-08-14.00.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-01-08-14.00.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2020/cinder.2020-01-08-14.00.log.html | 14:39 |
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