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| mattmceuen | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 4 15:00:30 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattmceuen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
| mattmceuen | GM / GE all! | 15:00 |
| mattmceuen | Let's give it a few minutes for folks to join | 15:01 |
| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
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| jsuchome | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
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| * mattmceuen virtual coffee for jayahn and srwilkers | 15:01 | |
| itxaka | \o | 15:01 |
| georgk | hello | 15:01 |
| itxaka | on extra over here pls mattmceuen | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for joining all | 15:02 |
| itxaka | s/on/one/ | 15:02 |
| howell | o/ | 15:02 |
| * mattmceuen coffee -> itxaka posthaste | 15:02 | |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:02 |
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| mattmceuen | Our fearless leader is tied up, so I'll try to cover! | 15:02 |
| mattmceuen | However, I don't have an agenda prepped, so we'll be doing this a bit ad hoc | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-06-04 | 15:03 |
| mattmceuen | please add any topics you'd like to discuss into there | 15:03 |
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| jayahn | o/ | 15:05 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic Feedback on hugepage support in HTK resource handling | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Feedback on hugepage support in HTK resource handling (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662603/ | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | Feedback welcome ^ | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | georgk anything else to discuss here or just offline in the patchset? | 15:06 |
| georgk | both is fine | 15:06 |
| mattmceuen | cool - to parrot you :) in the agenda notes: Question: adding checks for hugepage resources or removing checks, as in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662603/1 | 15:07 |
| mattmceuen | can you give us a quick overview georgk | 15:07 |
| georgk | I'd like to add hugepage resoruce handling to HTK | 15:07 |
| georgk | and there is a debate if the corresponding resource snippet should check input or not | 15:08 |
| itxaka | what are the cons of extra checking? | 15:08 |
| itxaka | complexity in the snippet? | 15:08 |
| georgk | the check sanitize the input. in case of a type, for instance hugepages-2M instead of hugepages-2Mi, this would be removed | 15:09 |
| georgk | from the resource definition. | 15:10 |
| georgk | as a result, the pod gets spawned without hugepage config, resulting in an application error | 15:10 |
| georgk | if the check was not there, K8s would have not spawned the pod due to the typo | 15:10 |
| georgk | catching the problem earlier | 15:10 |
| georgk | funny, thing, in this case fewer checks chatch the problem earlier. | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | for me this raises a bigger concern in my head | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | where is the limitation of what we implement in HTK | 15:11 |
| evrardjp | for me the goal of HTK is to provide convenience, and for example, in this case, I would not use htk, but pass the data verbatim to k8s | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | htk can provide validation | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | so where is the boundary? | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | I like the fact we provide validation in htk, I find it less useful if we just retemplate yaml | 15:12 |
| evrardjp | did I generalize the concern correctly georgk? | 15:13 |
| mbuil | actually, when using hugepages-2M, k8s does not complain saying "I don't understand this resource". I don't remember the exact error but it was something like "I can't get hugepages-2M" which made things very confusing because there were enough free hugepages-2M | 15:13 |
| srwilkers | helm-toolkits meant to give us a consistence interface with interacting with charts -- in this case specifically, it gives us a clean interface to inject the yaml instead of having to modify the chart templates directly each time we want to modify these things | 15:13 |
| georgk | evrardjp: yes, thanks | 15:13 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: oh so in this case it's not about validation but DRY approach | 15:14 |
| georgk | srwilkers: I do this benefit | 15:14 |
| mattmceuen | For cases where we render an override chunk directly into a k8s manifest 1:1, I would lean toward not getting in the business of validating k8s schema for k8s | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | did I get that correctly? | 15:14 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: in that case the function doesn't need to exist in htk | 15:15 |
| evrardjp | at all | 15:15 |
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| georgk | evrardjp: the function does a bit more as it also checks if resource handling is enabled or not | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | because consistency is naturally implied by convention (we respect k8s data structure) | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | georgk: so I guess there are multiple problems at hand here. | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | let's not go into the generalization to make the problem simpler to apprehend. Sorry if I went for a different path :) | 15:16 |
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| georgk | so, I wanted to tap into the experience of the folks here to decide which way to go best. | 15:18 |
| georgk | feel free to take some more time to look at the patchset | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | For the updated version of of _kubernetes_resources, I think I agree evrardjp -- it's mostly one like of "toYaml" and 50 lines of boilerplate. Maybe better to put "toYaml" directly in the calling manifest in that case. However, if we do want to enforce a schema (as opposed to toYaml) then I see the value of retaining the snippet for the sake of driving consistency across charts. | 15:18 |
| mattmceuen | pros/cons both ways | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: agreed there | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | Sounds good georgk -- I think we all understand the problemspace well enough to mull over it now :) | 15:19 |
| mattmceuen | thanks for bringing it up | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | then we "just" have to decide which function deserves validation | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | which input* | 15:20 |
| mattmceuen | yeah | 15:20 |
| cheng1__ | if we enhance the htk function, which case do we handle | 15:20 |
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| evrardjp | if you want validation (so deep knowledge of the app) and what you are doing is across multiple charts, then htk need to be adapted for enforcing convenience | 15:21 |
| cheng1__ | limit user input? | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: did I summarize this well? | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | take a look at the final comment in that patchset as well cheng1__ -- it has a pretty good example | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | enforcing conformity* | 15:21 |
| mattmceuen | the good thing about a "toYaml" approach is that it's very flexible, so you can add in new inputs as the native k8s api object is enhanced over time for example. The bad thing is that is's very flexible, so you can get your input wrong, and sometimes k8s can give you cryptic error messages back :) | 15:22 |
| mattmceuen | there's a place for both | 15:23 |
| georgk | so, given that there will likely be nasty cornercases which cannot be handled well, I lean towards the toYaml approach | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | in this case specifically | 15:23 |
| srwilkers | actually, nevermind me | 15:24 |
| mattmceuen | So then the question is | 15:24 |
| itxaka | damn you had me hanging there for one full minute srwilkers | 15:25 |
| itxaka | now I want to know what you were gonna said :/ | 15:25 |
| srwilkers | itxaka: :) | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | it's not the first time he does that in a meeting :p | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | If we just want toYaml, and we think "direct toyaml is better than wrapped toyaml" -- is it still a good idea to make the htk function a pass-through for the sake of consumers of the function | 15:25 |
| mattmceuen | that would give some time to update osh proper, airship, anything else before yanking the function out | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | I believe if the function is just reoutputting same yaml, then the function needs to be deprecated | 15:26 |
| mattmceuen | deprecated: agree. time-delayed removal | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | (same or similar, with indention) | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | indentation* | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | Any objections? | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | indentation shouldn't be a valid reason to keep tech debt | 15:27 |
| itxaka | agreed ^^ | 15:27 |
| jayahn | agreed.. | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | boom. look at us, we decided something, portdirect will be so happy | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | unless he disagrees, in which case too bad :p | 15:27 |
| georgk | :-) | 15:27 |
| mattmceuen | Ok, moving on: | 15:28 |
| georgk | awesome | 15:28 |
| georgk | thanks | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | #topic Technical debt | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Technical debt (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:28 | |
| itxaka | thats me! | 15:28 |
| mattmceuen | take it away! | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | we just talked about one, more tech debt reduction? | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | awesome! | 15:28 |
| itxaka | so it was mentioned last week on the channel that some of the comments and views on some patches were ignored and there was a feeling that there is not enough done to reduce tech debt | 15:28 |
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| itxaka | so Im wondering, how can we tackle that? how can we start reducing tech debt for a nicer maintenance of osh? | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | best code to maintain is no code :) | 15:29 |
| jayahn | i am not following | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | I was told rm -rf is not a solution though | 15:29 |
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| evrardjp | do you have an example itxaka? | 15:29 |
| mattmceuen | that's a broad topic itxaka! Can you point us to an example or an embryonic thought or something | 15:29 |
| itxaka | no ideas here other than having "reduce tech debt" day once per month/15 days | 15:29 |
| jsuchome | (how is rm -rf not the solution?) | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | rm -rf everything except the tests, and work your way back from there jsuchome | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | itxaka: how you want to have a periodic checking of what we all achieved to reduce tech debt? | 15:30 |
| itxaka | evrardjp: it was you the one to mention it, so hopefully you will have an example ;) | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | damn I can't remember now | 15:30 |
| itxaka | Im just a vessel of thougths and feeelings | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | lol | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | oh yes! | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | I remember | 15:30 |
| mattmceuen | my feelings agree with your feelings | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | cool ... so! | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | yes we are adding new images in osh-images, with no explanation whatsoever how they gonna fit in the OSH vision (for example, how they will be used in helm charts) | 15:31 |
| evrardjp | if future me wants to rm -rf all the things, he will check for the reason why image x exists in the first place | 15:31 |
| jsuchome | yep, let's test drive it all, if only someone would give us few years of uninterrupted development... | 15:31 |
| jsuchome | (sorry JP I did not want to interrupt your thoughts) | 15:32 |
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| evrardjp | haha | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | my point is that we all need to be aware that the code we are adding has downsides, and we should drive to periodically reduce old remnants | 15:33 |
| srwilkers | with regards to images, i can speak to a few that i've added/proposed | 15:33 |
| itxaka | hence "reduce tech debt" day :P | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | for example, we discussed at the PTG to remove the newton building of images. This was a good idea. | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | I just want to make sure we are not forgetting things | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | all together | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | srwilkers: it's not targetted against a single individual | 15:34 |
| evrardjp | it's we need to take ownership _together_ ;) | 15:34 |
| srwilkers | well right, but i feel the context helps that collective ownership | 15:34 |
| georgk | evrardjp: you have a good point here and I see this specifically be true in case of the dpdk images | 15:35 |
| georgk | blaming myself here | 15:35 |
| evrardjp | awesome, I am all ears srwilkers :D I love a good narrative | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | Is you guys' feeling that we're adding things we shouldn't (unneeded tech debt) or that we're not sufficiently explaining/documenting/discussing the widgets that are added | 15:35 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: I guess without the latter we can't evaluate the former | 15:36 |
| jayahn | latter | 15:36 |
| evrardjp | we can only trust your insights in that case. | 15:36 |
| mattmceuen | one easy thing that we've done inconsistently / ad-hoc -- maybe every time we add an X we then do a quick show-and-tell in this team meeting; where X is something we can define that is bigger than a line of code | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | the former might have happened too, but let's not go into the specifics right now I would say | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: alternatively, provide a release note ? | 15:37 |
| itxaka | release notes +1 | 15:37 |
| itxaka | I would forget stuff otherwise for sure | 15:37 |
| evrardjp | let's have a "what's in it for the community" | 15:37 |
| mattmceuen | agree 100%, only caveat is that we currently have a team meeting and we currently don't have a release notes :) | 15:38 |
| evrardjp | release notes would be the target reading for all deployers | 15:38 |
| evrardjp | don't we? | 15:38 |
| evrardjp | I think I wrote things for that? | 15:38 |
| jayahn | we have | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | oh I may have missed it | 15:38 |
| itxaka | I guess we can agree that for any change that is relatively "costly" a release note should be provided so everyone is awere of how, why, when | 15:38 |
| mattmceuen | my bad | 15:38 |
| jayahn | not forced or recommend in the process yet | 15:38 |
| evrardjp | proves I need to communicate better :D | 15:38 |
| * mattmceuen is the worst at communicating :D | 15:38 | |
| itxaka | should have provided a release note for that evrardjp ;) | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | I think it's two things itxaka: commit messages for the WHY is good, renos are a plus for deployers | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | evrardjp you probably just need to add a release note letting folks know there are release notes | 15:39 |
| evrardjp | I probably did, but we don't release yet, so we don't publish them yet :p | 15:39 |
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| evrardjp | different topic there | 15:39 |
| mattmceuen | so should we gently start encouraging folks to add release notes, via patchset feedback, in preparation for it becoming part of the formal process? | 15:39 |
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| itxaka | +1 | 15:40 |
| jayahn | but, then where we can check all the release notes? we don't have releases yet. | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: I think that would be one good action item... If commit messages explain well the WHY things are done, and release notes are provided when a user facing feature appears, then we are good | 15:40 |
| jayahn | ah.. evrardjp, mentioned | 15:40 |
| mattmceuen | ++ evrardjp | 15:40 |
| evrardjp | jayahn: in the meantime that would be in-tree | 15:41 |
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| evrardjp | but all the deployer facing features would be there, so you know you have to read them :) | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | sounds like a plan to me. Let's all please keep an eye out for good use cases for release notes and steer the broader team toward creating them in PS, as well as explanatory commit messages | 15:42 |
| mattmceuen | Good to move on itxaka & all? | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | lgtm | 15:43 |
| itxaka | yup yup! | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | cool | 15:43 |
| jayahn | +1 | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | #topic When meeting time poll will happen? | 15:43 |
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| mattmceuen | I'm going to go out on a limb and guess this is yours jayahn? | 15:43 |
| jayahn | i wrote in etherpad | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | The easy thing for me would be to punt this one to portdirect :p | 15:43 |
| mattmceuen | however I made the same commitment on the airship side | 15:44 |
| jayahn | i have been talking about this since ptg. but, honestly, i feel like i am the only one who cares about this | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | #action mattmceuen to sit down with portdirect to do polls this week | 15:44 |
| mattmceuen | sorry for the delay jayahn, been real busy but that's not a good excuse | 15:44 |
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| itxaka | didnt we brougth it up on the last meeting and ti was agreed that a mail was gonna be sent? | 15:45 |
| * itxaka searches for last etherpad agenda... | 15:45 | |
| jayahn | yeap. | 15:45 |
| srwilkers | i raised it to portdirect after last meeting, but it's not happened yet | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | jayahn: you are not the only one | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | sorry if you feel that way | 15:45 |
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| mattmceuen | well the other thing is... many folks who would care probably aren't here | 15:46 |
| jayahn | my additional comment on etherpad is just asking if simple poll is right way. but it is just flow of my thought | 15:46 |
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| itxaka | indeed, that sucks, sorry for the delay jayahn | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | It'll happen by next week | 15:46 |
| mattmceuen | Ok - if there isn't anything else on this one we'll move on | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen is rolling for initiative.... ! | 15:47 |
| itxaka | well, I guess the poll can also help in gauging the interest from other parties in participating and if that interest is big enough something should be discussed on how to approach that | 15:47 |
| mattmceuen | #topic I have an entire hour with portdirect on Friday on our outlook calendars for this >:-) | 15:47 |
| itxaka | this is in regards of your comments in the etherpad jayahn ^^ | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "I have an entire hour with portdirect on Friday on our outlook calendars for this >:-) (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:47 | |
| mattmceuen | lol I didn't mean to make that a topic | 15:47 |
| itxaka | I like this topic | 15:48 |
| jayahn | itxaka: yeap. thanks | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | this will make for the best meeting notes | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | portdirect will never let me lead this meeting again | 15:48 |
| itxaka | whats the outcome of this topic :P | 15:48 |
| * mattmceuen mission accomplished | 15:48 | |
| mattmceuen | #topic Review Requests | 15:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Requests (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:48 | |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653428/ -> Add tempest job and gate to zuul as voting | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662992/ -> htk: provide default domain env and secrets | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | Follow up: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662993/ -> keystone: default domain fix | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662988/ -> tempest: several fixes to tempest config | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662775/ -> Update apparmor job after fluent-logging split (Fixes apparmor job!) | 15:48 |
| mattmceuen | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/622573/7 -> TF plugin review | 15:48 |
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| qwebirc65085 | Hi all | 15:49 |
| evrardjp | I have an extra topic | 15:49 |
| mattmceuen | Good mix of interesting patchsets being asked for review - thanks for adding them, and let's please put them on our to do lists | 15:49 |
| qwebirc65085 | This is prabhu | 15:49 |
| mattmceuen | hey prabhu | 15:49 |
| jayahn | hi prabhu | 15:49 |
| qwebirc65085 | Just reminder to review TF plugin changes | 15:49 |
| * mattmceuen evrardjp - noted | 15:49 | |
| qwebirc65085 | I have added 2 links on story board, one for plugin changes and the other one for TF bringup with openstack | 15:50 |
| evrardjp | prabhu you are at the right time :) | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for the reminder prabhu | 15:50 |
| qwebirc65085 | any questions on the writeup, please let me know | 15:50 |
| mattmceuen | is the patchset you linked for the plugin change, and bringing it up with openstack is still TODO? | 15:51 |
| qwebirc65085 | no. latest patchset is working fine with TF | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | ok great | 15:51 |
| mattmceuen | very cool | 15:52 |
| qwebirc65085 | i have fixed some stuff seen during my unit testing. | 15:52 |
| itxaka | qwebirc65085: regarding the doc you sent, maybe you should host it somewhere and link it from the story? (Maybe its already linked, havent had time to look at the stories) | 15:52 |
| srwilkers | we still need to see it exercised as a job that runs in openstack-infra to be able to properly validate it and provide valuable review | 15:52 |
| qwebirc65085 | i didn't find a place to upload complete doc | 15:52 |
| qwebirc65085 | that's why i put it as story | 15:52 |
| mattmceuen | for the story, you can link back to them via the `Story:` and `Task:` tags in the commit message IIRC | 15:53 |
| itxaka | ummm, no attachments in storyboard, that sucks :( | 15:53 |
| qwebirc65085 | @srwilkers: ok | 15:53 |
| mattmceuen | Yeah, I see a lot of scripts in your PS to run TF -- hopefully it'll be a straightforward thing to just add (one or more) gates to run the scripts, similar to what we have now | 15:54 |
| mattmceuen | ok -- evrardjp you had an additional topic! | 15:54 |
| evrardjp | yes | 15:54 |
| evrardjp | so... | 15:54 |
| evrardjp | openstack-helm-images promote pipeline is broken | 15:55 |
| qwebirc65085 | @mattmceune: ok | 15:55 |
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| mattmceuen | #topic openstack-helm-images promote pipeline is broken | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-helm-images promote pipeline is broken (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:55 | |
| mattmceuen | What do we need to do to fix it evrardjp? | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | let me rephrase that | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | that sounds like a big deal, but it's not :) | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | so | 15:55 |
| evrardjp | in a recent patch, I added the fact to build/publish images with -date | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | that doesn't work in promote pipeline right now. | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | I am working with infra to fix that | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | in the meantime we can: | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | remove the publication with dates, and do it again when infra is ready | 15:56 |
| evrardjp | I just wanted to raise awareness of the problem | 15:57 |
| mattmceuen | gotcha - what is the issue w.r.t infra support for the dates? | 15:57 |
| itxaka | do we have an estimation on when would infra be ready? | 15:57 |
| evrardjp | and I will submit a review to revert what I added, to make sure we can still publish images. | 15:57 |
| itxaka | if its too long then +1 to revert + postpone | 15:57 |
| evrardjp | so expect later a revert of the revert | 15:57 |
| mattmceuen | sounds like a plan | 15:57 |
| evrardjp | mattmceuen: for technicalities, ansible_date_time is not part of the facts available on the pipeline | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | ahh | 15:58 |
| evrardjp | it involves zuul executors if you are interested. | 15:58 |
| itxaka | oooh | 15:58 |
| mattmceuen | interesting - I would like to dig more, my zuul integration knowledge is not strong | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | time is of the essence | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | on the channel maybe? | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | +1 | 15:59 |
| evrardjp | thanks mattmceuen for the meeting! | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | and with that we are out of time! | 15:59 |
| itxaka | o/ | 15:59 |
| mattmceuen | Thanks for joining everyone | 16:00 |
| evrardjp | thanks everyone! | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | see y'all in the channel | 16:00 |
| itxaka | thanks y'all | 16:00 |
| mattmceuen | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| jayahn | thanks | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| evrardjp | including those who stay up late for us! | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 4 16:00:08 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-06-04-15.00.html | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-06-04-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-06-04-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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