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portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 5 15:00:19 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:00 |
portdirect | hey - lets give it untill 5 past for people to arrive | 15:00 |
portdirect | the Agenda for this week is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-03-05 | 15:01 |
portdirect | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
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evrardjp | o/ | 15:01 |
hogepodge | hi | 15:01 |
howell | o/ | 15:01 |
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srwilkers | o/ | 15:02 |
roman_g | o/ | 15:02 |
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itxaka | o/ | 15:03 |
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dwalt | o/ | 15:03 |
cheng1 | o/ | 15:04 |
georgk | hi | 15:04 |
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portdirect | ok - lets go :) | 15:04 |
mattmceuen | o/ | 15:04 |
portdirect | #topic Multiple distro support for images | 15:04 |
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evrardjp | for images or for helm charts too? ;) | 15:05 |
evrardjp | I know someone who will hate me soon | 15:05 |
portdirect | i think they are one and the same no? we are not an image building project (as much as possible anyway!) | 15:05 |
evrardjp | I am just toying with you portdirect :) | 15:06 |
portdirect | theres been some really good input on this this morning in the etherpad - thanks evrardjp | 15:06 |
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portdirect | but i think we probably need more time here | 15:06 |
evrardjp | don't mention it, it's my job | 15:06 |
portdirect | as until today theres only been myself contibuting to this | 15:06 |
hogepodge | portdirect: if only there was an image building project person here... | 15:06 |
evrardjp | hogepodge: :D | 15:06 |
portdirect | or three :D | 15:07 |
srwilkers | ^ | 15:07 |
evrardjp | anyway -- what deadline do we set portdirect for input, before going to spec? | 15:07 |
portdirect | we had tried for today | 15:08 |
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portdirect | but that was depenent on things being hashed out | 15:08 |
evrardjp | sorry, what deadline do we set, portdirect, for receiving inputs of everyone* | 15:08 |
portdirect | next week i think | 15:08 |
portdirect | so we can review at the next metting and then go to spec | 15:08 |
portdirect | work for you? | 15:08 |
srwilkers | another week seems sane to me | 15:08 |
evrardjp | that's long :p but it doesn't prevent us to implement stuff in charts already | 15:08 |
portdirect | not that long - hopefully the we can work on the etherpad in the meantime | 15:09 |
evrardjp | I think I would like to expedite this, so I might even start on a draft spec in the same etherpad -- so I can gather more feedback | 15:09 |
portdirect | i know everyones been busy - buts is a shame no one had time to work on it for 6.5 days ;) | 15:09 |
portdirect | evrardjp: feel free to start a deft in the pad | 15:10 |
evrardjp | portdirect: that's how life works sadly | 15:10 |
evrardjp | will do tomorrow -- so that everyone gets still today to have a first view of my etherpads' comments | 15:10 |
portdirect | anyway - we ok to come back to this next week? | 15:10 |
evrardjp | sure thing | 15:10 |
portdirect | thanks - lets move on then | 15:10 |
portdirect | #topic Zuul credentials and next step for image publishing/consumption | 15:11 |
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portdirect | evrardjp: you're up :) | 15:11 |
evrardjp | oh yeah, so I worked with the infra team, and refactored the jobs last week or so | 15:11 |
evrardjp | we should be ready with the latest patch of portdirect | 15:11 |
portdirect | nice - thats great evrardjp | 15:12 |
evrardjp | it means we'll have to do a first PR on the relative images to build | 15:12 |
evrardjp | and then they will be published for consumption in dockerhub in openstackhelm namespace | 15:12 |
evrardjp | I will not delve into the technical details here | 15:12 |
evrardjp | so I will continue with the plan: the next step would be consuming them | 15:12 |
evrardjp | For the images that are published, that will be easy, just use the right path if it's not the right one already | 15:13 |
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evrardjp | But the interesting part is the depends-on | 15:13 |
evrardjp | I have a spec that explains all of that, which could have some eyes. mattmceuen had a +1 but I manually rebased and lost it. | 15:14 |
portdirect | do you have a link to that? | 15:14 |
evrardjp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615623/ | 15:14 |
evrardjp | sorry | 15:14 |
evrardjp | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615623/ | 15:14 |
portdirect | roger - lets get some eyes on this | 15:15 |
portdirect | is it some variation on the themes of maintaining a equiv of this: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/tools/overrides/releases/pike/loci.yaml, that we then source in the gates? | 15:15 |
srwilkers | that would be my preference i think | 15:16 |
evrardjp | it is exactly that | 15:17 |
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evrardjp | it's just that pike is a rolling target (latest pike) | 15:17 |
evrardjp | the spec goes a little beyond by having pike-myownthing and pike-0.1.0 for example | 15:18 |
alanmeadows | o/ sorry I'm late | 15:18 |
portdirect | awesome - that sounds good evrardjp | 15:18 |
evrardjp | it would mean ofc different overrides files based on context, default keeping it rolling. | 15:18 |
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evrardjp | that's all I have. | 15:19 |
portdirect | ok - thanks evrardjp for all your work here | 15:21 |
portdirect | its really helping move us forward | 15:21 |
portdirect | #topic Helm sync meeting | 15:21 |
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portdirect | hogepodge: the floor is yours | 15:21 |
hogepodge | I spoke with Lachlan at KubeCon Seattle | 15:22 |
hogepodge | He's open to having periodic meetings with the team to help out with 3.0 development | 15:22 |
portdirect | hogepodge: this would be great | 15:23 |
hogepodge | I don't necessarily need more meetings, but it's something I can facilitate if the team would find it useful (as it did a few years ago) | 15:23 |
portdirect | the ones we had for helm 2 were incredibly useful | 15:23 |
alanmeadows | Would this be a sep set of calls from the recurring Helm 3 Dev calls Chris? | 15:23 |
alanmeadows | or just sort of a slot on there | 15:23 |
hogepodge | there are helm 3 dev calls? | 15:23 |
portdirect | yes | 15:24 |
hogepodge | I think that the best approach would be to try and invite Lachlan or an appropriate Helm rep to those meetings and not add another spot to the calendar | 15:24 |
portdirect | hogepodge: that would work | 15:24 |
portdirect | howell has been going to them a bit i think | 15:25 |
howell | yes | 15:25 |
howell | i've been attempting to get them to add new issues for the community to work on | 15:25 |
hogepodge | ah, so the whole thing may be solved already? :-) | 15:25 |
evrardjp | hogepodge: impressive efficiency there | 15:26 |
hogepodge | (I'm assuming you work on helm, howell? ) | 15:26 |
alanmeadows | well, its rather divorced from the underlying workload | 15:26 |
howell | i've been working on it, yes | 15:26 |
howell | (though i wouldn't call myself a rep) | 15:26 |
alanmeadows | if we're looking for more of what we were doing | 15:27 |
alanmeadows | "application needs forum" | 15:27 |
alanmeadows | thats not exactly the helm 3 call | 15:27 |
portdirect | i think alanmeadows makes a good point here | 15:27 |
alanmeadows | as it is | 15:27 |
hogepodge | Ok, well I'll take the meeting time back to the Helm team in general and see if we can carve out some specific feedback time | 15:27 |
hogepodge | alanmeadows: to the point I just made, could we slot in helm 3 specific agenda during that meeting time? | 15:27 |
evrardjp | alanmeadows: I would like to distill what you just said into knowledge for others, can you come back to this conversation after the meeting in the #openstack-helm channel? | 15:28 |
alanmeadows | My only point was I think -- even though it may mean more meetings - you're likely going to what something separate from the helm 3 recurring dev call that exists, or get their permission to tack on an item for application owners to voice | 15:29 |
alanmeadows | evrardjp: sure | 15:29 |
evrardjp | thanks | 15:31 |
hogepodge | portdirect: alanmeadows: I should get some more information from you on the helm 3 call and see what the best solution is, and also coordinate with the helm team. It sounds like the interest is there, and we should pursue it regardless of the forum. | 15:31 |
alanmeadows | Those meetings were always very useful | 15:31 |
alanmeadows | For all involved | 15:32 |
portdirect | ++ | 15:32 |
hogepodge | I have to drop out of the meeting to prep for the next staff meeting, but I can ping portdirect offline to figure stuff out. | 15:32 |
portdirect | hogepodge: sounds great - thanks dude | 15:32 |
portdirect | i think this brings us nicely to the next suprise topic | 15:33 |
portdirect | #topic meeting times and office hours | 15:33 |
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evrardjp | oh great! | 15:34 |
portdirect | whe have reviewed meeting times on a couple of occeasions, and each time come to the conclusion that the earth not being flat is an issue | 15:34 |
portdirect | I tried to flatten it last weekend, though this was largely unsuccessful | 15:34 |
evrardjp | yeah if we could all get the sun at the same time it would be a solution too | 15:34 |
evrardjp | portdirect: did you fall on it enough hard? | 15:34 |
evrardjp | maybe we need to sync there. | 15:35 |
portdirect | should we hold another poll to get feedback on any potential alternat times? | 15:35 |
alanmeadows | Its always good to reassess | 15:35 |
evrardjp | correct | 15:35 |
portdirect | also would it be worth considering having meetings at alternate times? | 15:36 |
evrardjp | I like this meeting time tbh, but I think we lack office hours in different timezones | 15:36 |
portdirect | eg - flip flopping between a westcoast(usa)/asia and eastcoast(usa)/eu focused time? | 15:36 |
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portdirect | or would office hours be better for this? | 15:37 |
srwilkers | I don’t mind the idea of flip flopping | 15:37 |
evrardjp | I like the idea of flip flop with a focus on APAC and West coast | 15:38 |
evrardjp | that would give jayahn more natural times for feedback | 15:38 |
portdirect | exactly ^ | 15:39 |
evrardjp | however I think we should separate the two conversations -- one to set the meeting time (maybe with a poll) | 15:39 |
evrardjp | then another to set the office hours slots | 15:39 |
portdirect | agreed | 15:39 |
srwilkers | That would be nice, but I’d also propose reevaluating that after a period of time to determine whether it’s making a difference | 15:39 |
evrardjp | they have two different purposes | 15:39 |
portdirect | I'll put together an email for the ml and get that out today so we can take this convo there | 15:39 |
evrardjp | portdirect: great | 15:40 |
portdirect | ok - so lets move on | 15:40 |
portdirect | #topic roundtable | 15:40 |
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evrardjp | srwilkers: that's fair. but We need to take a few time, not reassess after 2 weeks | 15:40 |
evrardjp | maybe a cycle or something | 15:40 |
portdirect | i'd say probably half a cycle | 15:40 |
srwilkers | evrardjp: agreed, but I’m also saying it shouldn’t be 8-12 weeks before we do | 15:41 |
evrardjp | due to where we are in the cycle, that's more like it portdirect | 15:41 |
portdirect | ok - sorry i jumped the gun with the context switch | 15:41 |
portdirect | we have anything else we want to discuss this week? | 15:41 |
evrardjp | I have nothing to add | 15:42 |
DavidSull | Hey, figured I'd check here. Could someone review this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/638249/ ? Thanks | 15:42 |
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evrardjp | thanks DavidSull | 15:42 |
portdirect | DavidSull: yes! | 15:43 |
DavidSull | Much appreciated | 15:43 |
portdirect | sorry this dropped of my radar, but looks great to me, I'll just a have a quick check over of the syntax after the meeting but overall lgtm | 15:43 |
cheng1 | evrardjp, portdirect could you help review this patch, I have updated it today https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639087/ | 15:47 |
portdirect | cheng1: will do - the code was fine to me before, so should be pretty straight forward | 15:47 |
cheng1 | portdirect, thanks :) | 15:48 |
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evrardjp | cheng1: will do | 15:49 |
portdirect | ok - lets wrap up and give everyone 10 mins back | 15:50 |
portdirect | thanks everyone! | 15:50 |
portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 5 15:50:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-03-05-15.00.html | 15:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-03-05-15.00.txt | 15:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-03-05-15.00.log.html | 15:50 |
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