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| evrardjp | o/ | 15:01 |
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| srwilkers | o/ | 15:01 |
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| portdirect | sry im late ;) | 15:01 |
| portdirect | #startmeeting openstack-helm | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 29 15:01:53 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is portdirect. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| mattmceuen | o/ | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm' | 15:01 |
| portdirect | Agenda is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-helm-meeting-2019-01-29 | 15:02 |
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| portdirect | i'll give it until 5 past for the stragglers (ie even later than me ;) ) and any other burning topics to be added | 15:03 |
| howell | o/ | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | there is one topic I wanted to talk about but it's already on the agenda (image pushing), thanks portdirect! | 15:03 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: :D | 15:04 |
| portdirect | ok - lets go: | 15:05 |
| portdirect | #topic Docs repo | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Docs repo (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:05 | |
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| portdirect | last week we had a discussion about the work in getting the docs repo up and running | 15:05 |
| portdirect | i hope it was helpful, it definitely helped me, so thanks jayahn and evrardjp :) | 15:06 |
| portdirect | though we've not managed to get pen to paper (pen to git?) on this | 15:06 |
| portdirect | im wondering if anyone would like to volunteer to get a ps up with an draft outline/toc? | 15:07 |
| portdirect | i could make some time to do it this week, though as you all probably know by now, my grasp on the english language is tenuous at best | 15:07 |
| evrardjp | haha | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | ok I didn't really follow what's going on there in the docs repo, I am sorry | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | it's been a hectic two weeks for me. | 15:08 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: how do you do a vote on here? I'll try and make is simple ;) | 15:08 |
| evrardjp | oh you mean with the bot? | 15:09 |
| portdirect | yeah | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | startvote | 15:09 |
| evrardjp | you should probably explain the options first, then proceed to vote? | 15:10 |
| portdirect | #startvote should portdirect attempt to write a toc for the docs repo, and accept his fate to be in review purgatory (+1, 0, -1) | 15:10 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 15:10 |
| portdirect | well that failed - but you get the point ;) | 15:10 |
| mattmceuen | +1 WFM | 15:11 |
| mattmceuen | farbeit for me to ask someone not to do work! | 15:12 |
| roman_g | +1 | 15:12 |
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| portdirect | ok - with that resounding backing I'll have a stab at it - dont say i didnt warn you guys ;) | 15:13 |
| mattmceuen | lol | 15:13 |
| portdirect | lets move on | 15:13 |
| portdirect | #topic NoQA charts | 15:13 |
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| evrardjp | +1 | 15:14 |
| portdirect | so our gate coverage has reduced a bit in openstack-helm-infra - where we previously had 100% coverage | 15:14 |
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| portdirect | by no means was this coverage good, but we did at least attempt to deploy every chart in the repo | 15:14 |
| portdirect | and this has decreased a bit in the last few weeks with some of our new additions | 15:15 |
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| portdirect | as this repo holds (what ee subjectively decree) critical infra for running a cloud using osh | 15:15 |
| portdirect | its not the best look | 15:16 |
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| srwilkers | ++ | 15:16 |
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| portdirect | can we try and clean that up this week, and next week we can review - possibly moving things to osh-addons? | 15:16 |
| evrardjp | that lgtm | 15:17 |
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| mattmceuen | for my chart: as discussed last week, planning to add. Doing it this week is a good plan, will try. :). | 15:17 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen: thanks dude, though i dont think you are the only one ;) | 15:18 |
| portdirect | ok to move on? | 15:18 |
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| portdirect | #topic Image Pushing | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Image Pushing (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:19 | |
| portdirect | evrardjp: i saw some comments in irc - and noticed that image pushes do not seem to be happening atm | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | yes | 15:19 |
| portdirect | you ok to describe the current state of the art here? | 15:19 |
| evrardjp | well two things | 15:20 |
| evrardjp | 1) the current code 2) the state of the art | 15:20 |
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| evrardjp | So, for the current code (1), we are relying on a post pipeline to automatically push things | 15:20 |
| evrardjp | sadly there seem to be a bug in push pipeline when a file trigger is used, which basically skips the current job of pushing the images | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | I will explain the fixes after talking about the state of the art | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | so... | 15:21 |
| evrardjp | for the state of the art, nowadays there is a new kid in the block. Very new. | 15:22 |
| evrardjp | This is a new pipeline, named "promote". | 15:22 |
| evrardjp | By default, all the commits into osh-images would push a new image with a change id number | 15:23 |
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| evrardjp | then the promote pipeline doesn't have to run an image building once again (compared to the post which basically forces yet another build of an image). Instead it retags an image with what we want, and remove the old reference with a change id | 15:24 |
| portdirect | oh - thats pretty nice | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | the advantages of that pipeline is multiple: Faster (because no need to rebuild in post), scheduled faster (don't need to allocate nodes,as promote happens on the same node | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | and the last advantage: it's already built by other people. | 15:25 |
| portdirect | so the *same* image that was tested is the one that gets pushed | 15:25 |
| portdirect | which was always a bit of a gap before with the post pattern. | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | well that was always the case, because you were rebuilding | 15:25 |
| evrardjp | in post | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | the gap would be time between your code change and post | 15:26 |
| evrardjp | but the code tested would be the same. but that's details, let's skip that for now | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | problem of that: | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | we need to be refactoring jobs, and our code, which I just did. | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | I am not so sure we'll be able to be as granular as what we were. | 15:27 |
| evrardjp | Anyway, I did a few patches to make that work for OSH | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | so we could leverage it. | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | question now is the following: | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | should we fix the current code, and adapt post to be less surgical, OR adapt to latest state of the art | 15:28 |
| evrardjp | I would tend to go to latter, but I need time. I am currently fighting fires, so I will probably require more time before doing htat. | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | opinions? | 15:29 |
| srwilkers | i'd prefer to use promote if possible | 15:29 |
| evrardjp | ok | 15:30 |
| portdirect | how much work is required for each option? | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | if anyone wants to help there, I can point to what needs doing. Else wait that fights are extinguished | 15:30 |
| evrardjp | first option is probably fastest. | 15:30 |
| portdirect | days? weeks? | 15:31 |
| evrardjp | but it means carrying our own code, and slower. | 15:31 |
| portdirect | the reason for asking is that I'd like to help people getting running on healthchecks for non rest based services | 15:31 |
| evrardjp | former is I'd say days, depending on how fast I get core reviews and iterations | 15:31 |
| portdirect | and that requires building images with iptables in | 15:31 |
| evrardjp | you can still build currently and manually upload | 15:32 |
| portdirect | thats true | 15:32 |
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| evrardjp | it's just it's not automatically done | 15:32 |
| portdirect | if no objection there i'll do that in the short term | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | I think that's what was done in the past, and nobody complained | 15:32 |
| portdirect | but like srwilkers lets move forward | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | ok | 15:32 |
| evrardjp | I have prioritized this work, but it's not highest prio. Will keep ppl informed in the chan | 15:33 |
| evrardjp | That's all I have. | 15:33 |
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| portdirect | nice - thanks for all your work on this evrardjp | 15:35 |
| mattmceuen | +1! | 15:35 |
| portdirect | it really helps move the project forward | 15:35 |
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| portdirect | #topic Internal TLS | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Internal TLS (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:36 | |
| portdirect | so im finally getting this moving again | 15:36 |
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| portdirect | ironicly it was how i 1st got interested in OSH :) | 15:36 |
| portdirect | stage one of this has been cleaning up some htk functions: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:hostname_short_endpoint_lookup+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:37 |
| portdirect | and over the next two weeks i hope to finish the work started here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/597611/ | 15:38 |
| portdirect | the plans not changed here: | 15:38 |
| portdirect | we will support both 'bring your own certs' and 'bring your own ca' | 15:38 |
| portdirect | in the latter case using sprig to create the required certs dynamicly | 15:39 |
| portdirect | thats kinda all i got there - just wanted to raise it | 15:39 |
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| portdirect | and obviously i'll also get a set of gates in that exercise this | 15:39 |
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| portdirect | starting with rest services - then we can move onto mysql and rabbit | 15:40 |
| srwilkers | and then all the LMA goodness -- that'll be fun | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | Woot portdirect - looking forward to this | 15:41 |
| portdirect | yeah - so that makes me think of somthing that will make many people shudder | 15:41 |
| mattmceuen | don't go losing interest in OSH after this is implemented :D | 15:41 |
| portdirect | initially I'm gonna use eventlet to terminate connections internally | 15:42 |
| portdirect | and once we have done what move to nginx to terminate as a sidecar | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | wait what | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | could you clarify this? | 15:43 |
| portdirect | :) | 15:43 |
| portdirect | yeah - in the 1st pass this will make use of eventlet/pecan etc for many services | 15:44 |
| portdirect | and then quickly follow on to move to a more sane approach | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | so you mean for putting some termination on the host for the API services | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | mmm ok | 15:45 |
| portdirect | in the pod | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | yeah | 15:45 |
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| portdirect | thought that would perk your ears up evrardjp ;) | 15:45 |
| portdirect | dont worry - its not the intended end state, just a stepping stone | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | haha | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | I know the "forever temporary" state | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | I am just cautious | 15:46 |
| portdirect | lol - trust me I wont let this be a long term thing | 15:46 |
| * evrardjp is marking those words :) | 15:46 | |
| portdirect | though being cadid - it may end up with things listening on localhost, and doing it 'crudely' | 15:47 |
| portdirect | rather than a more socket etc | 15:47 |
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| portdirect | *more elegant | 15:47 |
| portdirect | ok to move on? | 15:48 |
| portdirect | #topic reviews needed please | 15:48 |
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| evrardjp | ok to move on | 15:49 |
| portdirect | mattmceuen and dwalt could do with some help here: | 15:49 |
| portdirect | Reviews: | 15:49 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/632481 | 15:49 |
| portdirect | https://review.openstack.org/631349 | 15:49 |
| dwalt | much appreciated! | 15:49 |
| evrardjp | About that topic, I am very sorry for the state I left OSH for the last two weeks, didn't review, didn't commit. That will be solved when fires are extinguished. | 15:50 |
| portdirect | the 1st brings support to running minikube based tests behind the proxy - and looks great to me (not that im biased or anything) | 15:50 |
| srwilkers | minikube work looks good to me | 15:50 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: all good man - in the world of openstack the next fire is only a moment away :) | 15:50 |
| evrardjp | haha | 15:50 |
| evrardjp | mmm aptly, it's been a while! | 15:50 |
| portdirect | and the 2nd adds an image for building a local deb repo - which is required for managing airgapped hosts | 15:51 |
| portdirect | i expect airship will be the primary user of the mini-mirror - but they've written it to be a great general purpose tool | 15:51 |
| portdirect | personally i think people should use ostree more, but whatever ;) | 15:52 |
| portdirect | thats all i got this week really, lets open the floor | 15:52 |
| portdirect | #topic parking lot | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "parking lot (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)" | 15:52 | |
| portdirect | anything else people want to discuss? | 15:52 |
| evrardjp | portdirect: general purpose with apt only :p | 15:53 |
| srwilkers | not much -- there's a change i've got opened to move the multinode osh-infra job to periodic, but that's the only thing i could use some opinions on: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632735/ | 15:53 |
| portdirect | evrardjp: the door is open for rpm :) | 15:54 |
| srwilkers | this moves us to a similar spot as openstack-helm, where we run the multinode jobs as periodics/experimentals | 15:54 |
| portdirect | ok folks - lets get 5 mins back :) | 15:55 |
| portdirect | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 29 15:55:51 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-01-29-15.01.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-01-29-15.01.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2019/openstack_helm.2019-01-29-15.01.log.html | 15:55 |
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