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| gnuoy | \o | 09:58 |
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| gnuoy | I think we may be low on numbers today | 09:59 |
| icey | o/ | 09:59 |
| icey | agreed | 09:59 |
| gnuoy | I don't want to have a meeting for the sake of it. So, please give a wave if you're here for the meeting. | 09:59 |
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| gnuoy | icey, do you have anything pressing you'd like to discuss? | 10:01 |
| icey | not really gnuoy , thanks anyway! | 10:02 |
| gnuoy | ok, I'm going to cancel this weeks then. (I'll keep hold of the chair for next time). | 10:02 |
| gnuoy | thanks for coming along icey | 10:02 |
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| gnuoy | tinwood, I've updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630232/ if you get a moment. | 10:16 |
| tinwood | hi, sorry, late | 10:16 |
| tinwood | I'll take a look. | 10:16 |
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| dmellado | #startmeeting kuryr | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 14 14:00:13 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dmellado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kuryr' | 14:00 |
| dmellado | Hi kuryrs, who's here today for the meeting? ;) | 14:00 |
| dulek | o/ | 14:00 |
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| dmellado | #chair dulek | 14:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmellado dulek | 14:01 |
| ltomasbo | o/ | 14:02 |
| dmellado | #chair ltomasbo | 14:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dmellado dulek ltomasbo | 14:03 |
| dmellado | so, not a really big quorum but anyway | 14:04 |
| dmellado | #topic kuryr-kubernetes | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kuryr-kubernetes (Meeting topic: kuryr)" | 14:04 | |
| dulek | I can share something about CI. | 14:04 |
| dmellado | First of all, thanks for all your efforts | 14:04 |
| dulek | dmellado: Okay, sorry, go on. ;) | 14:05 |
| dmellado | I just want to notice that on Fri we cut a new version | 14:05 |
| dmellado | from kuryr, kuryr-kubernetes and kuryr-tempest-plugin | 14:05 |
| dmellado | to align with upstream M2 as well as ocp | 14:05 |
| dmellado | kudos all \o/ | 14:05 |
| dmellado | secondly, let's go to the CI, I have some findings as well but I'll let you go first, dulek | 14:05 |
| dulek | I've talked again with OVH guys. They are pretty sure that they've did everything possible to increase storage performance. | 14:06 |
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| dulek | I've also tried running etcd with higher io priority and with all data in ramdisk. | 14:07 |
| dmellado | dulek: hmmm I was going to ask you about the ramdisk, but if it's already there... | 14:07 |
| dmellado | failures seem to be the same as we had before holidays... | 14:07 |
| dulek | Neither of those helped much so it seems to me like etcd issues that randomly blow gate runs may be due to different contention. | 14:08 |
| dulek | Natural next idea would be to increase CPU priority for etcd process. | 14:08 |
| dulek | I'll try sending a patch today. | 14:08 |
| dmellado | dulek: just niceness on the devstack plugin? | 14:08 |
| dulek | dmellado: Yeah, actually on devstack itself - etcd is part of core devstack. | 14:09 |
| dmellado | Another thing I was thinking about would be to just install etcd on a different node | 14:09 |
| dmellado | but that would imply that *all* jobs would have to be multinode | 14:09 |
| dulek | dmellado: I've looked into that. It's pretty hard to do. | 14:10 |
| dulek | dmellado: Because you don't have subnode's IP in the master. | 14:10 |
| dulek | dmellado: Only the other way around. | 14:10 |
| dmellado | dulek: hmmm I see | 14:10 |
| dulek | dmellado: So it's hard to configure stuff with etcd IP on subnode. | 14:11 |
| dulek | And the other way around with all the other servcies. | 14:11 |
| dmellado | I'd like to spend some resources on this as it's getting really hard as of now to get a proper CI run :\ | 14:11 |
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| dmellado | dulek: if you send the patch please add me there as reviewer | 14:12 |
| dmellado | I'm also trying some hacks from my side, as well as mayse | 14:12 |
| dmellado | maysa | 14:12 |
| dulek | dmellado: Sure. | 14:13 |
| dmellado | another thing we thought about doing is to increase the timeout | 14:13 |
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| dmellado | as some of the jobs were just running out of time, but that wouldn't be the main issue | 14:13 |
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| dmellado | ltomasbo: any idea on this from your side? | 14:14 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, I was not checking the CI in the last week, so I'm not sure | 14:15 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, we found other problems though, such as the ones related to neutron being slow and randomly breaking pool/namespace gates | 14:15 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: you mean (more) slow? xD | 14:15 |
| dmellado | I wasn't tracking those, would you mind ellaborating that ltomasbo? | 14:16 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, tempest test that gcheresh_ was doing about the pool was hitting random results on the number of ports created | 14:16 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, and it was just because neutron was too slow creating 10 ports in a bulk request, therefore, kuryr was triggering a second one | 14:17 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: like neutron not being able to cope up with the amount of requests? | 14:17 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, this is fixing the issue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/628160/ | 14:17 |
| ltomasbo | well, not fixing, avoiding it | 14:17 |
| dmellado | oh, now I do recall it | 14:17 |
| dulek | dmellado, ltomasbo: Hey, most of the timeouts are due to lost notifications from K8s API due to etcd timeouts! | 14:17 |
| dmellado | yeah, mitigating it at least | 14:17 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, it is able, but it took more time than the waiting time kuryr has to not trigger another repopulation | 14:17 |
| dulek | So it probably won't help | 14:17 |
| dmellado | so in the end we got a bottleneck on the etcd stuff | 14:18 |
| ltomasbo | dulek, this one actually is not related to that, as it is kuryr-controller -> neutron, without etcd | 14:18 |
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| ltomasbo | dmellado, btw, maysa and I found a few issues with the PS merged last week about NetworkPolicies | 14:19 |
| dulek | ltomasbo: Okay. | 14:19 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: saw your comments, I'll be keeping up with the patches and the bugs and review them | 14:20 |
| ltomasbo | and we are seeing a weird behaviour where svc rules are note being properly created | 14:20 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: please also do track them | 14:20 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, I actually -W this one (as it got not already merged): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629856/3 | 14:21 |
| ltomasbo | and it missing some part | 14:21 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: we'll mark these as bugs and once that they're fixed we'll do a minor release with bugfixes | 14:21 |
| ltomasbo | that is already mark as a bug | 14:21 |
| dmellado | yep, saw it | 14:21 |
| dmellado | I'm speaking in a general way | 14:21 |
| dmellado | should there be any new findings | 14:21 |
| dmellado | thanks for finding it, anyway | 14:22 |
| dmellado | in any case let's prioritize the CI debugging as it'd be blocking patches to get merged anyway | 14:23 |
| dmellado | anything else around, fellas? | 14:23 |
| ltomasbo | I have another thing to bring | 14:24 |
| dmellado | shoot | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, why don't we move the kuryr meeting to not being UTC, but CET or whatever... then changing in time makes collisions... | 14:24 |
| ltomasbo | dmellado, we discussed about moving it 1 hour later, but then it never happened | 14:25 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: oh, I thought I already did it, not a problem from my side | 14:25 |
| celebdor | not a problem for me either | 14:25 |
| dmellado | #TODO(dmellado) move kuyr meeting to 1 hour later and CET to avoid time zone collisions | 14:25 |
| dmellado | ltomasbo: I'll send a patch for this + an email to the ML upstream | 14:25 |
| dmellado | so it wouldn't collide with any another meetings next week | 14:25 |
| celebdor | dmellado: if you move it to CET | 14:26 |
| celebdor | what happens when Europe moves to CEST | 14:26 |
| dmellado | it would change like 1 hour | 14:26 |
| celebdor | if that ends up happening (not sure which coutnries will cancel DST) | 14:26 |
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| celebdor | (I'm not trolling, I swear) | 14:27 |
| dulek | Isn't UTC the only way of specifying upstream meetings times? | 14:27 |
| dmellado | well, I'll change it afterwards for CEST | 14:27 |
| celebdor | dmellado: did you and maysams finally figure out the test flakiness | 14:27 |
| dmellado | xD | 14:27 |
| dmellado | celebdor: we were discussing that on the first part of the meeting | 14:27 |
| dmellado | just scroll | 14:27 |
| dmellado | xd | 14:27 |
| celebdor | I saw you spam "recheck" like there was no tomorrow | 14:28 |
| celebdor | during the weekend | 14:28 |
| celebdor | it kept me entertained I must say | 14:28 |
| celebdor | like watching a lottery | 14:28 |
| dmellado | celebdor: it was even a script xD | 14:28 |
| dmellado | which I checked and so xD | 14:28 |
| dmellado | so, anywas | 14:29 |
| dmellado | dulek: yep, only UTC on upstream, I'll change it again when the DST comes | 14:29 |
| dulek | dmellado: That works. So next meeting is going to be at the same time or not? | 14:29 |
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| dmellado | dulek: 1 hour later now | 14:29 |
| dmellado | 15:00 UTC | 14:29 |
| celebdor | okey dokey | 14:29 |
| dulek | dmellado: Okay! | 14:29 |
| celebdor | thanks dmellado! | 14:29 |
| celebdor | next order of business | 14:30 |
| celebdor | is our participation or lack-of-it to the PTG official, dmellado? | 14:30 |
| dmellado | celebdor: yep, for the PTG I added ourselves as tentatives | 14:31 |
| dmellado | as I got a good-to-go in terms of budget | 14:31 |
| celebdor | I would dare say I'm not tented[sic] to attend | 14:31 |
| dmellado | and also reached out with some samsung + intel folks who asked to wait | 14:31 |
| dmellado | so I have asked for the smallest room available, just in case | 14:31 |
| celebdor | where's it this time? | 14:31 |
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| celebdor | tell me it's not Denver | 14:31 |
| dmellado | celebdor: you joking, aren't you? | 14:31 |
| dmellado | xD | 14:31 |
| dulek | Not Denver? | 14:31 |
| dmellado | it actually is xd | 14:31 |
| dmellado | so Denver again | 14:32 |
| dmellado | although it seems that it's not on the same hotel but on downtown | 14:32 |
| celebdor | there's no connections from my town to Denver | 14:32 |
| celebdor | there CAN'T be | 14:32 |
| dmellado | so I might have to go there in order for me to get some decent sleep this time | 14:32 |
| dmellado | I have spoken | 14:32 |
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| dmellado | xD | 14:32 |
| celebdor | but if you all wanna come to my town you're all welcome | 14:32 |
| celebdor | anyway | 14:32 |
| celebdor | more interesting things | 14:32 |
| dmellado | celebdor: mainly my concern is on cross-project sessions | 14:33 |
| dmellado | btw, ltomasbo dulek celebdor https://review.openstack.org/630689 | 14:33 |
| dmellado | there you go | 14:33 |
| celebdor | dmellado: like which? | 14:33 |
| dmellado | like Octavia and Infra | 14:33 |
| dmellado | in any case this time I would really love for some qe representative to go there and contribute | 14:34 |
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| celebdor | now that you mention Octavia... | 14:34 |
| dmellado | celebdor more interesting things? | 14:34 |
| celebdor | I would like to explore the two options | 14:34 |
| celebdor | gate with ovn provider | 14:35 |
| celebdor | (for octavia) | 14:35 |
| yboaron | celebdor, we have already gate with octavia + OVN provider | 14:35 |
| celebdor | dmellado: can you remind me if there is any change bigger than "no rain in a month in dmellado's town" of having pod in VM gate? | 14:35 |
| yboaron | celebdor, it's experimental | 14:35 |
| celebdor | yboaron: what would it take for it to not be experimental anymore? | 14:36 |
| dmellado | celebdor: actually there hasn't been rain in a month | 14:36 |
| dmellado | but I wouldn't count on it in a fast path | 14:36 |
| dmellado | celebdor: for it to be stable for some time | 14:36 |
| celebdor | dmellado: any flying pigs as well? | 14:36 |
| dmellado | then we'd move it out of experimental | 14:36 |
| yboaron | celebdor, seems that LB service always fail | 14:36 |
| celebdor | dmellado: gotcha | 14:36 |
| celebdor | somebody should work with the networking-ovn folks then | 14:37 |
| celebdor | :-0 | 14:37 |
| celebdor | :-) | 14:37 |
| dmellado | celebdor: be warned, I was told they have a terrible new manager | 14:37 |
| celebdor | the other thing I want to look is investigation for optional support for kube-proxy on pod-in-VM scenario | 14:37 |
| yboaron | I asked reedip today about FIP support, and he told me that it's merged | 14:37 |
| celebdor | dmellado: upstream projects have no manager | 14:37 |
| celebdor | only lazy PTLs | 14:38 |
| celebdor | yboaron: so what are we missing? | 14:38 |
| yboaron | I just rerun check experimental on this gate .. let wait and see | 14:38 |
| yboaron | in case it fail I'll work with reedip on that | 14:39 |
| celebdor | dmellado: did you consider moving the openstack/release of kuryr to independent or cycle with intermediaries? | 14:39 |
| celebdor | sorry, the latter is what we have now, innit? | 14:40 |
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| dmellado | celebdor: yep, we have the latter | 14:40 |
| celebdor | maybe we should be releasing with K8s releases | 14:41 |
| dmellado | celebdor: that's something I was thinking about as well | 14:41 |
| celebdor | dmellado: and what conclusions did you get to? | 14:41 |
| dmellado | but in any case it should't hurt us to do a release when openstack as well just to align for now with upper reqs | 14:41 |
| dmellado | I would like to check how we would deal with requirements on the upstream gates in such case in non-containerized mode | 14:42 |
| dmellado | I do recall that we had some discussions on that, but I'm open for suggestions | 14:42 |
| dmellado | now that we'll be slightly out of craziness mode I'll send an invite to you and some rdo folks as well | 14:43 |
| dmellado | I'd like to re-sync with jpena and amoralej before changing anything | 14:43 |
| celebdor | the upper constraints can be troublesome indeed | 14:43 |
| dmellado | anyways, I'll update all of you folks on this on next meeting | 14:45 |
| dmellado | any another topic to cover for today anyone? | 14:45 |
| dmellado | All right! Then thanks all for attending, we'll be at #openstack-kuryr if you have any follow-up! | 14:48 |
| dmellado | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 14 14:48:17 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2019/kuryr.2019-01-14-14.00.html | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2019/kuryr.2019-01-14-14.00.txt | 14:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kuryr/2019/kuryr.2019-01-14-14.00.log.html | 14:48 |
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