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| ifat_afek | #startmeeting vitrage | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 5 08:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ifat_afek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'vitrage' | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | Hi :-) | 08:00 |
| idan_hefetz | Nice day :) | 08:00 |
| eyalb | \o/ | 08:00 |
| ifat_afek | #topic Status and updates | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status and updates (Meeting topic: vitrage)" | 08:03 | |
| ifat_afek | There are new guidelines regarding the cycle-with-intermediary release mode | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | In order to use this model, we must release at least twice each cycle, and more specifically we must release before the second milestone on January 7th | 08:03 |
| ifat_afek | An alternative is to switch to cycle-with-rc release mode, where we need to publish one or more release candidates at the end of the cycle | 08:04 |
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| ifat_afek | I think we should stay with our current release mode of cycle-with-intermediary, and decide on the best time to publish a release | 08:04 |
| mnajjar | Hi | 08:04 |
| ifat_afek | What do you say? | 08:04 |
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| e0ne | hi | 08:06 |
| idan_hefetz | I think it is better to release sooner then later if possible | 08:07 |
| idan_hefetz | to include latest improvemnts | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: Hi. I was talking about the change of the release mode policy. we should either release before Jan 7th, or switch to cycle-with-rc release mode. Any prefernce? | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | idan_hefetz: I agree | 08:07 |
| ifat_afek | And I feel that it’s a good time to release. We should just wait for the Prometheus configuration fix that mnajjar is working on | 08:08 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: hi. I don't have strong opinion on this yet | 08:08 |
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| mnajjar | what is the real difference ? | 08:08 |
| ifat_afek | BTW, we should also release Rocky once we have the Prometheus fix | 08:08 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: +1 | 08:09 |
| mnajjar | how each option will affect us ? | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | If we stay with the current mode, we must release at least twice. First time until Jan 7th. If we switch, we just need to tag a release candidate at the end of the cycle | 08:09 |
| ifat_afek | I’m not so sure what is better, but I tend to release soon and remain in our current release mode | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | Which is cycle-with-intermediary | 08:10 |
| mnajjar | ok, i got same feeling like you ifat_afek | 08:10 |
| ifat_afek | I have no other updates. I was sick part of the week, so didn’t finish the Nova versioned notifications yet | 08:11 |
| ifat_afek | Anyone else? | 08:11 |
| idan_hefetz | yea | 08:11 |
| idan_hefetz | I have a new commit regarding optimization of runtime and memory use for API calls. | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | In topology i rewrote some of the code that creates the graph, so to avoid calling unnecessary copy() on the graph. | 08:12 |
| e0ne | nothing from me this week. I worked on other projects:( | 08:12 |
| e0ne | idan_hefetz: I'm sorry, I didn't have a time to test your patch :( | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | And in vitragea-pi i added garbage collector configuration to collect more often | 08:12 |
| idan_hefetz | e0ne: no worries, i'll try to share my results :) | 08:13 |
| e0ne | idan_hefetz: great | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | This change is almost ready, just have a few comments from eyal and ifat | 08:13 |
| idan_hefetz | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619623/ | 08:14 |
| idan_hefetz | After that i have some more cool improvements :) | 08:14 |
| idan_hefetz | So stay tuned... | 08:15 |
| e0ne | :) | 08:15 |
| eyalb | I will update | 08:16 |
| eyalb | I want to force the use of networkxx 2.0 | 08:16 |
| e0ne | eyalb: +1 | 08:16 |
| eyalb | but I am not sure other projects are ready | 08:16 |
| eyalb | there is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1718576 | 08:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1718576 in Vitrage "Handle networkx 2.0 update" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Anna Reznikov (annarez) | 08:17 |
| eyalb | to handle networkx | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: I think it’s good for us, but not sure how it might affect other projects that might be installed together with Vitrage | 08:17 |
| eyalb | some project are still in progress | 08:17 |
| eyalb | but I am not sure it is updated | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | eyalb: Are they all still using launchpad? maybe we should check StoryBoard | 08:17 |
| e0ne | eyalb: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L81 contains 2.2, so it's the version which is used on gates | 08:17 |
| eyalb | vitrage for example is ready but it says in progress | 08:17 |
| ifat_afek | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/1718576 | 08:18 |
| ifat_afek | Vitrage status is updated here, but no other projects | 08:18 |
| eyalb | also I couldn't find an rpm with this version for redhat or centos | 08:18 |
| eyalb | so we need to talk to rdo guys | 08:19 |
| eyalb | I found for fedora | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | You mean an rpm with networkx 2.0? | 08:19 |
| eyalb | yes | 08:19 |
| ifat_afek | And your motivation is to simplify our code? | 08:19 |
| e0ne | eyalb: ubuntu bionic contains 1.11 | 08:19 |
| eyalb | so if I fix the rpm spec it will probably fail | 08:19 |
| eyalb | the latest ubuntu has networkx 2 | 08:20 |
| eyalb | so i dont know what is the procedure here | 08:20 |
| e0ne | eyalb: http://paste.openstack.org/show/736690/ | 08:21 |
| ifat_afek | Maybe we can ask the requirements team | 08:21 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: if there is 2.2 in the upper-constraints, we can use that version | 08:21 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: unfortunately, we can't always use versions form rpm/deb packages | 08:22 |
| eyalb | the only problem is with the packaging | 08:22 |
| e0ne | eyalb: I agree | 08:22 |
| e0ne | eyalb: usually, vendors make packages based on global requirements and upper-constraints | 08:22 |
| eyalb | for ubuntu 18.10 there is networkx 2.1.1 | 08:24 |
| eyalb | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python-networkx | 08:24 |
| e0ne | in our clouds we use only LTS versions | 08:24 |
| eyalb | so we need to wait with this patch ? | 08:25 |
| e0ne | and we build packages if they are not presented in ubuntu repos | 08:25 |
| e0ne | eyalb: I already +1'ed on it. we can't wait for distros in this case. we have to force vendors/distros to get new packages | 08:26 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622293/ | 08:27 |
| eyalb | ok | 08:28 |
| ifat_afek | +1 | 08:28 |
| eyalb | so for now we will just force the use of networkx 2 but leave the code comptible with networkx 1 | 08:28 |
| eyalb | once all the vendors have the networkx 2 packages we will remove the code for networkx 1 | 08:29 |
| e0ne | eyalb: it doesn't make sence, because we won't test with 1.x once your patch will be landed | 08:29 |
| eyalb | we dont test it now in the gate | 08:31 |
| e0ne | if something is not tested, sooner or later it will be broken for sure | 08:31 |
| eyalb | eOne: so what is your suggestion ? | 08:32 |
| e0ne | drop 1.x support | 08:32 |
| eyalb | but then it will break all the vendors | 08:32 |
| e0ne | it should not | 08:33 |
| eyalb | until they have a 2.0 package | 08:33 |
| e0ne | vendors will create 2.x package once they will build packages for Stein | 08:33 |
| e0ne | older versions must not be affected | 08:34 |
| e0ne | and I do understand all the vendors pain with packaging | 08:34 |
| eyalb | ok | 08:35 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: but when will vendors build the Stein packages? now or in April? what if we release Vitrage now? | 08:35 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: it depends on vendors, I can't answer you | 08:36 |
| ifat_afek | So maybe it is safer to make the change near the end of the Stein cycle? | 08:36 |
| e0ne | in our case, we build packages after the release | 08:36 |
| e0ne | but RedHat and Ubuntu could do it much faster | 08:36 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: IMO, it's safer to get such changed earlier to get more time for testing and packaging | 08:37 |
| ifat_afek | I’m just not sure that I understand the effect of having a Vitrage release now without packaging support | 08:38 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: there could be some issues with Vitrage Stein and networkx 1.x | 08:38 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: we've got 2.2 in global-requirements | 08:38 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: so it's good to get the version from global requirements | 08:39 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: so all openstack components will use the same library | 08:39 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: it's extremely important if you install services from packages on the same node | 08:39 |
| e0ne | ifat_afek: unfortunately, everybody doesn't use containers now :( | 08:40 |
| e0ne | #link https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/dependency-management.html#why-do-we-have-a-global-requirements-list | 08:40 |
| ifat_afek | e0ne: ok, I guess I’m convinced | 08:41 |
| e0ne | :) | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Any other issue for today’s meeting? | 08:42 |
| ifat_afek | Have a nice day :-) | 08:44 |
| eyalb | bye | 08:44 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 08:44 |
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| mnajjar | bye | 08:44 |
| ifat_afek | #endmeeting | 08:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 08:44:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-12-05-08.00.html | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-12-05-08.00.txt | 08:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/vitrage/2018/vitrage.2018-12-05-08.00.log.html | 08:44 |
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| egonzalez | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 5 15:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is egonzalez. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | #topic agenda | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| egonzalez | * Roll-call | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | * Announcements | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | * CI state https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ci-status | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | * open discussion | 15:00 |
| egonzalez | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| egonzalez | hi o/ | 15:00 |
| chason | o/ | 15:01 |
| dougsz | \o | 15:01 |
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| egonzalez | seems not much people in here today | 15:04 |
| pbourke | o/ | 15:04 |
| dougsz | mgoddard is away | 15:04 |
| egonzalez | #topic Announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| egonzalez | I dont have any announcement for today | 15:05 |
| egonzalez | Any news from you? | 15:05 |
| pbourke | none here | 15:05 |
| dougsz | I'm in the process of updating the cells spec, but nothing apart from that. | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | #topic CI state https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ci-status | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI state https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-ci-status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
| egonzalez | gates are currently broken in kolla build | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | few issues | 15:06 |
| egonzalez | Oraclelinux repositories changed versions | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | ona monasca image fails to install golang in centos | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | and collectd role used to gather info during image build fails to start | 15:07 |
| egonzalez | 1 and 3rd are being fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/622122/ | 15:08 |
| egonzalez | i suspect the second is due centos 7.6 was just released and repos has not been mirrored yet | 15:08 |
| dougsz | Hmm, golang is for Grafana I guess? | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | yep, tested locally but build succeed, likely because havent removed cached centos version | 15:09 |
| egonzalez | pbourke was oraclelinux 7.6 released already? | 15:12 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: yes | 15:12 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: I didn't expect it to issues though as we are just plugging in the centos repos in kolla | 15:12 |
| pbourke | *to cause issues | 15:12 |
| egonzalez | yep, maybe the releaseserveror contentdir used in yum.conf causes to look in different repos | 15:13 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: your patch above looks like it does the trick but if OL needs more work in general please let me know | 15:13 |
| egonzalez | pbourke sure, thanks | 15:13 |
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| egonzalez | anything else in this topic? | 15:14 |
| dougsz | egonzalez: ping me if I can help with the Grafana issues | 15:15 |
| egonzalez | hopefully is already fixed with the last recheck, tomorrow is a bank day in spain so will have some time to dig into the error | 15:16 |
| dougsz | thanks egonzalez, not a good day for rock climbing then I guess! | 15:16 |
| egonzalez | #topic kolla-cli status | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kolla-cli status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:17 | |
| egonzalez | while this topic was not in the agenda, i would like to discuss how kolla-cli is and if we should be doing a release soon | 15:17 |
| egonzalez | pbourke any idea about the state? | 15:18 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: good point this has been on my list for a bit | 15:18 |
| pbourke | oracle are still releasing it commercially | 15:19 |
| pbourke | upstream wise it seems quiet, Im still unsure as to the appetite from the community for this in general | 15:20 |
| pbourke | generally if you say to people, "do you want a cli", the answer is of course, yes :) | 15:20 |
| pbourke | however, how useful it is in it's current form, Im unsure | 15:20 |
| pbourke | has anyone here tried it? | 15:21 |
| egonzalez | not me | 15:22 |
| dougsz | nor I | 15:22 |
| pbourke | I think it needs more polish and advocacy to become a fully fledged part of kolla | 15:22 |
| ktibi_ | o/ | 15:23 |
| pbourke | I'll bring it up internally to see if we can get some of that | 15:23 |
| pbourke | otherwise I think its future is uncertain | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | +1 , first thing is to add into kolla-ansible deploy notes pointing to the cli | 15:23 |
| egonzalez | *docs, so poeple may be aware of is existence | 15:23 |
| pbourke | Ideally we'd need to update CI to use it intead of tools/kolla-ansible | 15:24 |
| egonzalez | otherwise is only known by us | 15:24 |
| pbourke | let me get back to you on it | 15:24 |
| egonzalez | sure, thanks pbourke | 15:24 |
| egonzalez | anything else for open discussion? | 15:25 |
| egonzalez | guess not | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | thank you all for coming | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | have nice day | 15:28 |
| pbourke | thanks egonzalez | 15:28 |
| egonzalez | #endmeeting | 15:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 15:28:30 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-12-05-15.00.html | 15:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-12-05-15.00.txt | 15:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2018/kolla.2018-12-05-15.00.log.html | 15:28 |
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