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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 29 14:00:35 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | 0/ | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | I think we have quorum here so lets get started | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
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| jokke_ | First of all I have change up in project config to get Review Priority vote for Glance similar what Designate is doing | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620904/ | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | you can see example here: | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616238/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | the gate has gotten really slow, that's been sitting for an hour | 14:04 |
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| jokke_ | yeah, I know | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | it's probably my fault ... i have a one-line cinder change that i've had to recheck 4 or 5 times | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | :P | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i like the review priority idea | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | So the reason for this column is twofolded ... first it should help us to get our priority reviews communicated over the TZs bit easier | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | specially for Brian and Sean who are not doing this for full time | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | second benefit is that we do not need to use code review -2 anymore during any of the freezes ... so now we have freeze merge block separate from our code review | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | nice | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | which brings us to the next important topic of today | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | Spec Freeze | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | I think we have gone through pretty much everything in flight and where we have been onboard through the core team should be merged. If that's not the case, please let us know asap | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | As usual, spec lites can be accepted still on case by case basis, but today marks the deadline for us to know what API/major changes are potentially coming this cycle | 14:09 |
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| jokke_ | any questions/comments? | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | what's the status of the edge spec? are we trying to get that approved for Stein? | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | (i haven't had time to look at it yet) | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: you mean the caching one? | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | it is very vast | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619638/ | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | I am not sure it will be completed during Stein | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | yes, it's the caching enhancements spec | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | greg updated it yesterday afternoon | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | I need to have a look, Greg uploaded new version of it, but I have to agree with Abhishek, I'm not convinced we have time to review it throughly and give meaningful feedback. If the team as whole thinks this is something super important and we're all behind the proposal I'm willing to consider exception for it but I don't want to rush it through today | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | sounds good to me, we can always approve a spec freeze exception | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i don't want to reject something if there's someone available to work on it | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | but on the other hand, don't want to rush through anything to bite us later | 14:14 |
| LiangFang | I have one spec open for specifying image size during uploading, solution1 is spec, solution 2 may spec-lite. But need to discuss more on this. May cannot catch the time now | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | I'm specially worried about the security aspects of the proposed spit brain and after we've fought years to plug the bad behavior from our API I really don't want to introduce new Pandora's box without even latch on it | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | can we ask for PoC? | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: ++ | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | it would be good to get our policies situation fixed before proceeding | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | those could help | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | agree | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | that said, please take the time to review the spec and lets keep the discussion going | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: ok, so that has slipped from the last pass | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | could you link that again for the record | 14:16 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609997/ | 14:17 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609994/ | 14:17 |
| LiangFang | this is solution 2 | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609997/ | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | ok ... so please lets get eyes on that | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/608400/ | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | moving on | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | this is solution 1 | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | LiangFang, specs is in merged conflict | 14:18 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | #topic Release/Periodic jobs | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release/Periodic jobs (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:18 | |
| abhishekk | We are in R-19 week, Stein milestone 2 is in the week between 7-11 January, which is mostly a month away | 14:18 |
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| abhishekk | spec freeze is today, so if you want an exception please send FFE mail and get a approval from reviewers | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs all green, except one of the job fails due to timeout issue | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | Not much help from the logs, but I will continue to monitor | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | that's it from me | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | Iss that the same job that has been sporadically failing for quite some time? | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | glance-tox-functional-py35-glance_store-tips | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | ok ... so it's definitely persistent condition then | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | http://zuul.openstack.org/builds?project=openstack%2Fglance&pipeline=periodic | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | If anyone has free cycles to look into it and perhaps get in touch with QA/Infra to get some insight that would be great | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | moving on | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | #topic running glance in devstack | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: your go | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "running glance in devstack (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:23 | |
| jokke_ | Just want to highlight the creeping urgency on this. It's coming up more and more weekly | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2018-November/047195.html | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | yeah, people want to test out import and can't do it | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i promised in that email to follow up on this | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | at some point we had a path forward, anyone remember what it was? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | probably all new PTLs at this point | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I think you have patch up for it. And I've been talking with gmann about this. | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | right, my patch is still working | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | one of the CI is failing on that | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | So we need to change it back to be deployed on it's own and work around the grenade to accept the fact | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | i think it's the grenade part that needs work | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | I think we've been hanging on this for long enough by now that we should be able to just force the change to grenade and we can get through it on one pass (grenade would not be going back and forth anymore) | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | makes sense | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will try to find some time to see what i need to do to grenade and report back next week | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | as that was one issue to get it going through without grenade seeing two endpoint changes within one run over (I think 3) branches | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, if you were busy, pass it to me | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: ty, if needed lets find time to meet with gmann and get his insight for it | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: if i can't get answers by next meeting, i will pass it off to you | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | based on our conversation he has pretty good idea what needs to happen to get it through | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ack | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: maybe we can set something up for monday or tuesday next week? | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | he would also know if there has something changed and we should take another approach to it | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | yes, that would save time | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I'll try to get in touch with him and see what we can plan | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | ok, great. it would be good to have this fixed by S-2 | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | I would like you to be there as you have best idea about that patch and what your thought was with it | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | yes | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | sooner the better | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | moving on | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | #topic deprecated config options | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "deprecated config options (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:31 | |
| rosmaita | that's me again | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: you can keep going ;) | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-stein-deprecations | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | as promised a few meetings back, here's the list of deprecated options | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | a bunch of them will disappear when the registry is removed | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | not sure what our timeline is on that | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | IIRC based on the deprecation policy we can get rid of it at the beginning of Train | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | I think we slipped too late with the v2 registry deprecation to remove it this cycle | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | please do correct me if I'm wrong and I'm more than happy to make the time to do it | 14:34 |
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| rosmaita | that's a good sean question | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | looks like it was deprecated in Queens | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | I guess it will be better if we do it early in T | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | so we left it in for Rocky | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | so yeah, 2 cycles would mean we can do it in T | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | i think it would be good to get rid of owner_is_tenant before someone actually uses it in non-default setting | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | so ... how bad our deprecation debt is beyond registry? | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | But still we have some options which are deprecated before queens | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | i think mainly glance_store | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | those were deprecated in Rocky 'though? | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: we have few that we have deprecated ages ago, but won't be removed | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | around the locations | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | update capabilities says removal in Stein | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | oh yeah that one! | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | woppee ... | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | and the swift ones can all go | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | #action jokke to get rid of "update capabilities" | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | ++ | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | if someone is happy to have a look on the swift ones, feel free to take that on | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | anything else? | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | show_multiple_locations showed up on the ML today | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | i think we need to update our statement about it | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | oh? | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-November/000335.html | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | are we still stating it's deprecated for removal or was it just flagged as deprecated? | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: abhishekk: please read over my reply | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | (to make sure it's accurate) | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | says pike or later since ocata | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | had originally been sooner | 14:42 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, ack | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | but we are way past pike at this point | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | we really can't remove it until the locations policies are refactored | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | yes, it's reporting deprecated for removal, I think we just need to reword that to indicate that it will definitely be around until the policies are refactored to the shape we actually can remove it | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | best workaround at the moment | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | i will put up a patch for that | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | ty | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | (updating the deprecation, not actually removing!) | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: Big hand for taking the time to go through these, thanks a lot | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | np | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | can we move on? we have bit of a time check here. | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | all done | 14:45 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | #topic ForeignKey constraint violation | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ForeignKey constraint violation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:46 | |
| LiangFang | ok | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: thanks for taking the time on this. | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617889/ | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | np | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | the issue is: | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | when doing glance-manage db purge, trying to delete record in table task | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: abhishekk: we had pretty well covering discussion about this on the last weeks meeting. | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, I went through the logs | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: I'd like to refer everyone to the meeting logs on this and review your changes | 14:47 |
| LiangFang | but there're some record in table task_info | 14:47 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:48 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | that way you don't need to explain it all again ;D | 14:48 |
| LiangFang | yes, :) | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will have to read through | 14:48 |
| LiangFang | thanks rosmaita | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | don't thank me yet, i actually have to do it! | 14:49 |
| LiangFang | I describe in the bug also:https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1803643 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803643 in Glance "task_info FK error when running "glance-manage db purge"" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Liang Fang (liangfang) | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | #action everyone lets get this fixed as while it's "only" breaking the purge it's pretty nasty issue which has quite straight forward fix what I can tell | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | it's weird that we haven't seen it before | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | might be we haven't used tasks | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | and me not being the DB guy I didn't want to take rush decision on this | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | lets move on last 10 minutes | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | yeah | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #topic precent encoding | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "precent encoding (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:50 | |
| jokke_ | so this is carried over from last week as well | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | imacdonn is not around, he has a request for backport approval | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | request to backport to rocky | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | what abhishekk said | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | did we have some concerns, need for better solution on this or did we agree that this should be good as is for now? | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | i used to hope for a better solution, but i think we should do this small fix now | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | I remember us discussing this rosmaita but can't recall what we came up with | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | ok ... lets get it fixed and released then! | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i am supposed to look into what it will take for a good solution | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | haven't done that yet | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | kk | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | #topic multiple back-ends default store on locations api | 14:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "multiple back-ends default store on locations api (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:53 | |
| rosmaita | i thihk the request is also for a release? | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | this is from imacdonn as well | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | like expected the locations API is biting us again | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, last time you have suggested we should test nova snapshot as well | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | I have a setup with glance using multiple ceph, I have tested snapshot and it is working, | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | should I also need to configure ceph for nova? | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: yeah I think we have to a) get the default working on the locations b) work with nova to actually provide the store id for us | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | the problem will definitely be if glance and nova are using non-default ceph store | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | so this needs documentation and long term fix | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | I am still confused here :( | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | so the situation is that to use the ceph fast snapshotting, the snapshot must be in the same ceph ? | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: lets take this offline and I'll walk you through it | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, sure | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | we get couple of minutes for open discussion | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:56 | |
| rosmaita | jokke_: it would be good for you to communicate with iain about this | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | forgot from updates ... the default visibility survey is up and linked to the mailing list | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | otherwise, i wind up talking to him because of the TZ, and i don't have your ceph knowledge | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | great! | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | #action anyone please fill the default visibility survey | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | vote yes!!! | 14:58 |
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| LiangFang | sorry, where is the survey | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: there is link sent to the mailing list ... it's google forms | 14:58 |
| LiangFang | ok | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: which ml did you send it to? | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | #link https://goo.gl/forms/gLDHArolvyoYX1LI2 | 14:59 |
| abhishekk | I haven't received it (not sure) | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: openstack-discussion | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | ok, time, Thanks all! | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 29 15:00:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-29-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-29-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-29-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 15:00 |
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