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| LiangFang | hi abhishekk | 14:00 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 22 14:00:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:01 |
| Luzi | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | (i am not well, i may quit early) | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: ok :( | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | take care of yourself | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Yes, thank you | 14:02 |
| LiangFang | take care | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | lets get started then, this might be quick one | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Yep, ty | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| jokke_ | Just quick hello from the summit | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | There was lots of active discussions around Edge and different use cases and needs | 14:03 |
| LiangFang | some topic about starlingx, right? | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | image handling is pretty much top of the list in every one of those, so please keep an eye on and provide any feedback you might have | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: there was some discussions with StarlingX as well but I'm more referring to the general edge discussions and OpenStack rather than StarlingX specifically | 14:04 |
| LiangFang | OK | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | just wanted to bring up that it's currently the hot topic and we seem to be pretty much in the center of it :) | 14:05 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:05 |
| LiangFang | starlingx is based on openstack | 14:06 |
| LiangFang | and glance is the important module of it | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | Another thing, now when the Summit is over we have spec freeze approaching next week. If you have any specs still in flight/not submitted ... lets get those worked out | 14:06 |
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| LiangFang | ok | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | this does not affect spec-lites as before but we want to lock down any bigger feature planning/API changes at this point | 14:08 |
| LiangFang | when will open again? | 14:09 |
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| LiangFang | I mean when can we submit spec | 14:10 |
| LiangFang | after next week | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | It will be for the Train cycle. We normally hold off until towards the end of the cycle (somewhere around milestone 3) just to give the time for people to actually work on the stuff agreed for the cycle instead of focusing on future specs | 14:10 |
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| LiangFang | ok | 14:11 |
| LiangFang | end of stein cycle is march 2019, right? | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | so feel free to draft you Train specs already but don't expect too much feedback etc. before towards the end of the cycle | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | 10th of April is currently the expected release date | 14:12 |
| LiangFang | ok | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | ok moving on | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | #topic Combined mailing lists discussion | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Combined mailing lists discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:13 | |
| jokke_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134911.html | 14:13 |
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| jokke_ | So it seems that people are not getting enough spammed by having single dev list yet and there is urge to move everything into a single list | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | reminder the new list went live at 19th | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | so redo your filters and subscribe to the new list | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | Done | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | #topic multi-store adding locations does not default to the default store | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "multi-store adding locations does not default to the default store (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:16 | |
| jokke_ | I saw some discussion about this but it seems that the locations api bit us again. abhishekk you have some light you can shed to this? | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | Yeah, Brian has found this issue while testing locations stuff | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | With multiple backend if we try to add location without backend not specified in location metadata then it fails with unknown scheme error | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | imacdonn has done some poc and submitted a patches for the same | 14:19 |
| LiangFang | I met this issue last week | 14:19 |
| LiangFang | also | 14:19 |
| LiangFang | location metadata must be specified | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | I have added some description on the bug | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: kindly have a look at that | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | It looks good to me and brain also finds it ok | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | So to not break the API again ... I think we should utilize the default backend _if_ the uri scheme is valid for it (and not reguire the backend to be specified for backwards compatibility) any location that is not for the default should require the backend being specified | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | btw this will need at least Nova work as well and we need to coordinate how this is handled | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | any thoughts on that? | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | I need to cheCK from nova prospect | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | Meanwhile could you add your thoughts on the patch? | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | Yeah so the nova side where this will break is snapshotting when ceph is used | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | yeah, I'll comment on the bug as well | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | Thanks, i will check the snapshot case once back to work | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | specially if we have multiple ceph backends nova needs to look where the parent image is stored and use that backend id when creating the location for the snapshot | 14:25 |
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| abhishekk | Ack | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | it's great that we found it now instead of finding it when people have deployed their edge sites with local ceph clusters and all the snapshots are fecked | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | Right | 14:27 |
| jokke_ | _This_ is one of the reasons why rolling new features as experimental is good idea :D | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | Agree | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | #topic Bug squad meeting to resume from 26th of Nov | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug squad meeting to resume from 26th of Nov (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:28 | |
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| abhishekk | This is just announcement | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | cool ty | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | We are resuming this by-weekly meeting since 26 November | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | moving on then | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | Yes | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | #topic FK constrain violation | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FK constrain violation (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:30 | |
| LiangFang | hi | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | this is a bug that when doing db purge, foreign key error will happen | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | because | 14:30 |
| abhishekk | (i will quit now, will go through logs later) | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617889/ | 14:30 |
| LiangFang | ok | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: kk, take care buddy | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | jokke_: ty | 14:31 |
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| LiangFang | the bug is the table task_info has the records but | 14:32 |
| LiangFang | sorry | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: so I really really suck with databases. | 14:32 |
| LiangFang | bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1803643 | 14:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803643 in Glance "task_info FK error when running "glance-manage db purge"" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Liang Fang (liangfang) | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | Mind to explain to like to 5 year old? :P | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | where do we actually break? I was looking at the bug and I can see failure in logic/functionality but no errors in the bug description | 14:33 |
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| LiangFang | when there're "deleted" record in table tasks, when trying to delete the records in table tasks | 14:35 |
| LiangFang | exception will happen: like this: DBError detected when purging from tasks | 14:36 |
| LiangFang | because table task_info still have record and depends on table tasks | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | ok, that makes sense. Does that fail the whole purge or does it just affect the tasks part of it? | 14:36 |
| LiangFang | so we need to purge task_info first | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | and/or does it barf something else as well? | 14:37 |
| LiangFang | it will interrupt the db purge cmd | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | kk | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | so the db cannot be purged as expected | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | :) | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | sorry for my bad english | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | well in that case lets get it fixed. The patch seems to be quite straight forward for it | 14:38 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | thanks for looking into it | 14:39 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:39 |
| LiangFang | that's all for this patch | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | #topic allowing to add location only when location does not exist | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "allowing to add location only when location does not exist (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:40 | |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617891/ | 14:40 |
| LiangFang | yes, rosmaita have gave comments on this patch | 14:40 |
| LiangFang | It seems make sense | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | yes he seems to have -2 there and his reasoning is very valid | 14:41 |
| LiangFang | yes | 14:41 |
| LiangFang | I agree with him, and about to abandon this patch | 14:41 |
| LiangFang | but waiting confirm from co-author | 14:41 |
| LiangFang | I'm working on the patches that need to upstream | 14:42 |
| LiangFang | but the original author is from wind river | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | cool, yeah I definitely share his concerns about that patch and it would break the API quite horribly (in a sense that it makes the API to work very very unpredictably) | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | #topic Don't percent-encode colon in HTTP headers | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Don't percent-encode colon in HTTP headers (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:43 | |
| LiangFang | could you please comment your concern on this patch? thanks | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | So there was some discussion about these before and we seem to be doing some quite horrible stuff when encoding the headers. We basically do encode stuff that doesn't need to be encoded and don't properly decode them on the other end | 14:44 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: yeah, I'll add my comment there | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | thanks | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I think the comma is just another example of the behavior and the fix is likely not fully covering | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | but it would be decent bandaid for the issue seen now | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | I'll check the backport and see it through | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | I have no knowledge on this issue ... | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | basically we started precent quoting request headers to be able to follow the rfc for http headers | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | problem is that the lib we use for that is not exactly meant to be doing that so it quotes certain characters that are <127 ASCII code range which in turn breaks tons of stuff in the receiving end | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | and seems like only way to indicate safe chars to it is providing it a list of them | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | so every now and then we discover new characters it's quoting that happens to break some parts of our api | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | not great but at least we're breaking only those requests instead of majority of our headers as we used to | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618362/ | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:51 | |
| jokke_ | there was pointer here. The Community Goals discussion is going on again | 14:51 |
| LiangFang | ack | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-November/000055.html | 14:52 |
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| jokke_ | please follow up and do provide feedback. | 14:52 |
| LiangFang | ok | 14:52 |
| jokke_ | another thing left on the agenda is something quota related, this was from you LiangFang as well? | 14:53 |
| LiangFang | not from me | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | ok ... who added this? | 14:53 |
| LiangFang | it seems be added when the meeting is opened | 14:53 |
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| jokke_ | well just to answer the question as I understand it: No there is no quotas for sharing images, no we do not want one, this is the exact reason why image sharing/accepting happen via out-of-band communications so that these does not spam anyones image lists | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | so whoever added the question there and hopefully is reading meeting logs, if that did not aswer the question or you have something to add/needs clarification, please get back to us with it | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | Anything else? | 14:57 |
| LiangFang | no from me | 14:57 |
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| jokke_ | ok ... going 1st | 14:58 |
| rambo | hi， all. I have a question about use shared image with each other, Do we have the quota limit for requests to share the image to each other? For example, someone shares the image with me without stop, how do we deal with it? | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | rambo: see my answer 3 lines up ;) | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | might be 5 even | 14:59 |
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| jokke_ | And we're out of time, thanks everyone and #openstack-glance serves if something pops in between | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 22 15:00:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-22-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-22-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-22-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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