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| LiangFang | hi rosmaita | 14:00 |
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| rosmaita | hello! | 14:00 |
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| LiangFang | hi Sean.. | 14:01 |
| smcginnis | Hi LiangFang | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | guess we should get started | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #startmeeting glance | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 1 14:02:42 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:02 |
| smcginnis | .o. | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | #topic roll call | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:03 |
| mhen | o/ | 14:03 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:04 |
| openstack | jokke_: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | #chair jokke_ | 14:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jokke_ rosmaita | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | oh, hello o/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | jokke_: you have the floor | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | sorry had ident issue with freenode | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | those spammers have made everyone's life miserable | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ikr | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | well the good news is that their activity has reduced significantly | 14:05 |
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| jokke_ | ok, lets get on | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
| jokke_ | Indeed no meeting on the summit week, or at least I won't be chairing it | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | is there any reason why we shouldn't have one next week? | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | I have holiday here | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | (next week) | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | we can declare a glance holiday in abhishekk's honor | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | lol | 14:09 |
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| jokke_ | k, I will keep the next week in calendar in case there is something coming up, it might be very short one but at least we won't be unavailable for 2 weeks in a row | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | if we don't have any urgent thing on agenda then we can skip next meeting | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, smcginnis ^^ | 14:09 |
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| rosmaita | ok | 14:10 |
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| jokke_ | like said, I'll keep it there in case something comes up. So next weeks meeting start will be at the same time and we'll see how long we go with it. This means, abhishekk, you have your holiday and don't worry about it ;) | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, thank you for honoring me :D | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | We can always catch up in channel if something comes up. | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yey | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | happy to do it ... well deserved! | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: there is no reason for you to break out from your holidays for these meetings, just saying | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | <3 | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | gotta honour those holidays | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | ok, next | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | #topic periodic test jobs | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "periodic test jobs (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:13 | |
| rosmaita | all green!!! | 14:13 |
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| rosmaita | also, the stable/rocky jobs have stopped | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | Woot | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i feel OK with handing this over to abhishekk now | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | so these jobs are now running as intended and we can move from tinkering with them every week to just monitoring them? | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | yes, we should be good | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | unless some new libraries are added | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | nice, well done rosmaita ... it was quite a bit more than what we expected | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | which is unlikely | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | well, maybe for the encrypted images | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | right | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | yeah, we'll see. Everything is in place now so it should be quite trivial to add new lib into the list, right? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | yes | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | cool, thanks again and lets move on | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:18 | |
| abhishekk | so we have python-glanceclient release 2.13.0 from stable/rocky and 2.14.0 for Stein milestone 1 | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | iiuc glanceclient should be good to go from both stable and master. Do we have them release patches up already? | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | Also glance-store 0.27.0 for Stein milestone 1 is out | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, those were merged as well | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | excellent | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | looks like glanceclient has been released | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | 2.13.0 and 1.14.0 | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i mean 2.14.0 | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | goodgood | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | yep | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | and just for record, we did/do not tag the S-1 from glance itself | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | ok, next topic | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | reminder: abhishekk is the release CPL now | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | yup | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | #topic image encryption | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "image encryption (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:23 | |
| abhishekk | yes, I will ping you if need any help | 14:23 |
| mhen | o/ | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | mhen: how is it going for you on this? | 14:24 |
| mhen | so a topic I'd like to bring up regarding the image encryption is about the properties we propose | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609667/ | 14:24 |
| mhen | like "os_encrypt_key_id" etc. | 14:25 |
| mhen | currently, they are meant to be included in the "properties" field of an image which holds arbitrary content | 14:25 |
| mhen | question here is, do you think we should/can have separate fields for this? maybe even database model extensions? | 14:26 |
| mhen | they also need to be immutable - what is the best approach for this? | 14:26 |
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| jokke_ | I think we should add them to the list of base properties like we did with the multihash | 14:28 |
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| jokke_ | they would be always with the same keys and write only | 14:29 |
| mhen | write-only? | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | yes so once they are set once they become immutable, you cannot remove nor update them | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | but not mandatory so you can leave them blank | 14:30 |
| mhen | so you mean read-only? | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | yes sorry ... WORM to be exact | 14:30 |
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| jokke_ | write once read many | 14:31 |
| mhen | that's good | 14:31 |
| mhen | so do new base properties require DB/model change? | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | yes that would be the case, rosmaita can correct me if I'm wrong | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | yes, that is the case | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | it would need the db expansion, no migrate etc. | 14:32 |
| mhen | any objections going that route for the "os_encrypt_*" properties? | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | we could handle immutability with property protections | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | so quite straight forward with our alembic tooling in place | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | rosmaita: I really don't want to do that as that would mean that the deployer would need to configure them properly and I do not see literally any reason why these should be ever for example mutable | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | true | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | I prefer the approach "You upgrade and it just works" :D | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | and someday that will be true | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | hey, we have had couple of such things in past ... not everything needs to be 200 extra lines in config | 14:37 |
| jokke_ | ok, anything else about this or should we move on? | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | quick question | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | mhen: do you have the link to the etherpad about the library/osc situation? | 14:38 |
| mhen | sure | 14:38 |
| mhen | sec | 14:38 |
| mhen | #link image encryption outsourcing discussion etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/library-for-image-encryption-and-decryption | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:39 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: did you have something specific about that or did you just wanted to include the link? | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | no, i just want to follow up with monty about what he's thinking | 14:40 |
| mhen | I guess we'll incorporate the base property extension into the spec and our code for now as it doesn't seem to be a no-go for you | 14:40 |
| jokke_ | I think it's much cleaner approach and just keep the column nullable so we don't consume space on db when they are not set | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | ok moving on | 14:42 |
| mhen | ok, thanks for your input | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | #topic show store id in image-list | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "show store id in image-list (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:42 | |
| LiangFang | o/ | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | LiangFang: you're up | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | hi jokke | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | sorry to bother you again | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612236/ | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | want to get your approval on this spec-lite | 14:43 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/612236/ | 14:43 |
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| jokke_ | yeah, seems that we have full quorum there, I will read it through once more and cast my vote on it. Anything specific you wanted to highlight/ask? | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | no , thanks | 14:45 |
| LiangFang | the code implementation is also ready | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605014/ | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | cool, thnx | 14:46 |
| LiangFang | thanks jokke | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | #topic glance FIPS compliance | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "glance FIPS compliance (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:46 | |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-stein-FIPS-compliance | 14:46 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: you're up | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | well, the info is on the etherpad | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | key point is that eventually we'll have to do somehting | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | i will investigate and try to get a timeline for when FIPS will hit upstream | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | the problem is that md5 will not be available in particular environments | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | so, yeah, i don't have as much to say as i thought i did when i put it on the agenda | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | that's all | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | I think this is good to bring up, specially related to the heated discussion about the validation_data discussion | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | -one discussion | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | I wonder if we can get a gate image with FIPS enabled. It would be interesting to see what all breaks. | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | so I guess we need to revisit our expectation of also glance always populating the checksum if we're expected to follow the FIPS standards | 14:51 |
| smcginnis | I'm sure Glance would not be the only area of interest with those results. | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: that would indeed be interesting experiment. | 14:52 |
| * smcginnis makes note to raise the topic on the ML | 14:52 | |
| jokke_ | I'd be also interested to see who is going to make the audits if the proposal of allowing non-certified hashes to be used for non-security purposes and what would be the definition of non-security purposes | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: _if_ you have time and interest to dig into the timeline and expectations ofif/ when we're supposed to be compliant, that would be amazing | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | ok, last 5min so lets open the discussion | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | #open discussion | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i will do that, it impacts cinder too so will be in my range of duties | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | anyting else? | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:55 | |
| jokke_ | anyting else? | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | bug squad | 14:55 |
| abhishekk | I am sorry, I completely forgot about bug squad meeting, will start it a week from after summit | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | don't know if anyone has noticed htat i haven't actaully been holding meetings since rocky | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | was wondering if abhishekk wants to take it over | 14:56 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, I will take it over | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | thanks! | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | yes, also we did not have our bug squash day at Monday | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | which I totally forgot/ignored as not tagging milestone got my checklist kind of thrown out of the window | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | i will probably stop attending bug squad because the time will be really bad for me after we go off daylight savings here | 14:58 |
| rosmaita | but you don't need me for that anyway | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | understandable | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: you're still working tomorrow? | 14:58 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yes | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | cool, lets go through our launchpads tomorrow and make sure we haven't missed anything critical? | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | and we're out of time. Thanks all! | 15:00 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, yes | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 15:00 |
| LiangFang | bye | 15:00 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| abhishekk | Thank you all | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 1 15:00:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-01-14.02.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-01-14.02.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-11-01-14.02.log.html | 15:00 |
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