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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 23 14:01:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
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| edmondsw | w/ | 14:01 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 14:01 |
| * rosmaita bbiab, coffee in final draw down stage | 14:01 | |
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| jokke_ | lets wait rosmaita back | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | sorry about that | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | no worries | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| rosmaita | ok, so the key question is: | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | will RC-2 be our final RC? | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | computer says yes ? | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | I guess it is | 14:03 |
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| smcginnis | That's better. o/ | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i haven't seen any bugs | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | though i did not check this morning | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | I haven't seen anything release blocking critical popping up, so I'd say RC2 is our final Rocky | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | no new bugs | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | I checked last today | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis what do we need to do to make RC-2 the actual release? | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | \o/ a toast | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | IIRC we don't need to do anything | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | \o/ congratulations jokke_ | 14:05 |
| jokke_ | ? :o | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ yes, i think it's all automatic from here? | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i will close the RC-3 milestone in launchpad, though | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: so IIRC the release tooling will pick up the last tagged rc for the final | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | ok, great | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | so since the tag is there, we can go ahead and merge test backports to stable/rocky | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | ok, next item is periodic tests | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | looking mostly good | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | details on the agenda | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | which i seem to have lost on my desktop | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | the test stuff doesn't really affect anyways ... I'd wait green light from smcginnis before merging tests stuff ... traditionally the week or two leading to release has been very very limited wat's going in to that branch apart from release blocking bug fixes | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | one thing is that we are still running the periodic jobs on all 3 components on stable/rocky | 14:09 |
| smcginnis | rosmaita: Sorry, got pulled away. Releasing RC2 automatically makes it the final release. | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | the fix for that is to change .zuul.yaml in master in each component | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | and then backport to stable/rocky | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | i have a patch up for glance_store master: | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586334/ | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | smcginnis has kindly +2d it | 14:10 |
| smcginnis | And abhishekk has kindly approved it. :) | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | oh, thanks abhishekk ! | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok, soon as it merges i will propose a backport to stable/rocky | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | and we can see if it actually works | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | I'd assume _store and glanceclient are fine, just dunno how strict smcginnis wants to be with the release branch for now | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | running some extra periodicals is not end of the world anyways | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: As far as backporting those before the RC? | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | well, just the glance_store one | 14:11 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: yeah, doing the testing changes into glance stable/rocky | 14:11 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: Since those are non-functional as far as the delivered product goes, they can go in before or after RC. It really doesn't matter at that point. | 14:11 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: ok, so you don't mind the brnach living a bit as long as they are not functional changes | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | ? | 14:12 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: Yeah. Don't need to hold up an RC2 waiting on those, but also OK if they do end up in there for that. | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | ok, so the periodic test results: it's kind of funny, the thing that was motivating me to make sure we run them only in master is that glance_store stable/rocky were all failing, but now they are all green! | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: we have rc2 and were not planning to tag rc3 for test changes | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | Oh, right. Then yeah, they can be merged to stable/rocky and nothing more needs to be done. | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | to continue, glanceclient tests are all green | 14:15 |
| jokke_ | cool, I think that's our release clear then :D | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | glance is showing some weirdness in the functional-py35 for oslo and keystone | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | but, they never fail together in master and stable/rocky | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | which are pretty much the same code atm | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | anyway, one thing i do want to mention is the large amount of MoxStubout deprecation messages being spit out | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | yeah they have been spat out all over the get for past months | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | we can get rid of them during S? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | just throwing that out there, i personally am not interested in dealing with them right now | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | there was somebody putting up some patches, chuck short maybe? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | but he drew the line at the fixtures we are using, they are a bit complicated | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | we can get rid of them when ever someone finds time and motivation to figure out the changes needed from the current stubout model to what ever needs to be used | 14:18 |
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| abhishekk | ok, I will see if I can find someone to work on that | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | that's fine, i just wanted to mention them as part of the periodic test report | 14:18 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk that would be great! | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | it's all coming somewhere from oslo | 14:18 |
| jokke_ | so there was this community goal to get rid of all mox stuff, and apparently oslo instead of fixing what the fixtures used underneath decided to throw deprecations out of them | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i think abhishekk got rid of all 'import mox' in our code early in the cycle | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | yup | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | yup | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | we haven't been directly using any since like before milestone 1 | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | are we done with updates? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | yes, that's all from em | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | *me | 14:21 |
| jokke_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:21 | |
| rosmaita | edmondsw : you are up | 14:21 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: Do we have a time slot for the PTG group picture? Everyone going to be there? | 14:22 |
| edmondsw | rasmaita thanks | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | Sooo ... I will try to find some time to look into that PTG planning etherpad by monday | 14:22 |
| edmondsw | so I'm trying to write up some help for an internal team where I work that involves setting up devstack | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: no we don't and no we won't be having everyone there :( | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | :( | 14:22 |
| edmondsw | and as I've been trying things, I stumbled over this uwsgi mess | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | i have been waiting for to hear a scream clear across the atlantic ocean for one of the topics i put on there | 14:22 |
| jokke_ | I saw the mail from Kendal now before meeting so I'll drop time for us into the list | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | sorry, edmondsw, you have the floor | 14:23 |
| edmondsw | there are patches to make uwsgi work in glance, but they haven't merged | 14:23 |
| edmondsw | there are patches to make it possible to not use uwsgi in devstack, but they haven't merged | 14:23 |
| edmondsw | so... we're kinda stuck here | 14:23 |
| edmondsw | one of those needs to merge | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | yeah, this has been sitting since the ptg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545483/ | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | i use it personally to run devstack, seems ok | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | but neutron-grenade hates it | 14:24 |
| edmondsw | yeah | 14:24 |
| edmondsw | personally I'd prefer that glance just work in uwsgi | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | edmondsw: yes, so the patches that claims to make glance working under uwsgi, won't and I forgot to chase to make sure we get the devstack deploying glance without being under Apache | 14:24 |
| edmondsw | but one way or the other, devstack shouldn't have to be hacked up to work | 14:24 |
| smcginnis | I think everyone would prefer that. | 14:24 |
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| edmondsw | jokke_ why won't they work? | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | they break taskflow | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and hence image import | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | and all other tasks | 14:25 |
| edmondsw | I thought there was a fix for that | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | edmondsw: yeah IIRC taskflow won't work under uwsgi | 14:25 |
| edmondsw | mtreinish around? | 14:25 |
| edmondsw | didn't you have a fix for that? | 14:25 |
| jokke_ | edmondsw: no, there is fix for running external command (from taskflow) which will never be executed | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | because the taskflow won't start | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | yes, that is the situation | 14:26 |
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| abhishekk | edmondsw, these are some other issues with uwsgi | 14:26 |
| abhishekk | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uwsgi-issues | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | Any way we can move the taskflow part out of the api? | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | nope | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | nothing realistic | 14:26 |
| edmondsw | so what's the path forward? | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i think at least get my patch merged so glance works in devstack by default | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | the other stuff is mostly a resource issue, i think | 14:29 |
| edmondsw | that'd be a start | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | edmondsw: I need to make sure that we get the needed changes merged to devstack so it will deploy glance properly | 14:29 |
| edmondsw | please :) | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | edmondsw do you have any pull with the qa team? | 14:29 |
| edmondsw | not that I know of :) | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | bummer | 14:29 |
| jokke_ | that was agreed in Vancouver Summit to be the way forward | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | just need to follow it up | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | that's right, it was the summit, not the ptg | 14:30 |
| edmondsw | I think there was some concern over that having to be a staged process to not break grenade? | 14:30 |
| edmondsw | is that understood? | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | also, everyone please read my commit message to make sure i am stating things clearly: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545483/ | 14:31 |
| edmondsw | based on my skimming http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2018-04-10.log.html#t2018-04-10T21:09:52 | 14:31 |
| jokke_ | edmondsw: I'm not sure if it's fully understood what it might break from grenade but there was good undertanding of what needs to be done so grenade can be forced to get over it | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | and looking at my commit message prompts me to ask, do we want to say something about this in the release notes for Rocky? | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | "Note: The Glance release notes for both the Pike and Queens releases | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | recommend that Glance not be run under uwsgi in production systems." | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | we could rush through a release note revision today, and tag RC-3 | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: I'm sure that everyone who does not read releasenotes anyways did ignore it already | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | so no, we won't be tagging rc3 just to have that repeated there again | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | yeah, but it has been helpful to say, "hey, it's in the release notes" | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | I guess we already have mentioned that somewhere | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | it's in past 2 release notes and it's reinforced in multiple places in the docs (that is ignored by those same people) | 14:33 |
| jokke_ | so we're good | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | Do we have it mentioned in the docs? | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | yes, that's what I just said | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | https://docs.openstack.org/glance/latest/admin/apache-httpd.html | 14:34 |
| smcginnis | Oh, sorry. Then I think we're in as good of shape as we can be. | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | it mentions Queens, though | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | i think we need to update this (just my opinion, though) | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | otherwise it is not obvious that it applies to Rocky | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | everyone always thinks docs are out of date | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | but having said that, i will now shut up about this | 14:35 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: well in this case they would be right :D | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | i can't help myself, i really think we should add this to Known Issues ... and now i will really shut up | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | we can remove the queens from there after the release | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: it's not issue | 14:36 |
| * rosmaita is keeping mouth shut | 14:37 | |
| jokke_ | apart from the fact that people does not read those notes nor docs and try to do something that is stated not supported | 14:37 |
| mtreinish | edmondsw: what's up? | 14:37 |
| edmondsw | was talking about the old glance uwsgi issue | 14:38 |
| jokke_ | mtreinish: we still haven't got devstack fixed by how it deploys Glance ... that's all | 14:38 |
| mtreinish | edmondsw: you're looking for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549743/ | 14:38 |
| mtreinish | which should be the approach to get taskflow running under uwsgi | 14:38 |
| edmondsw | I think jokke_ was asserting that doesn't work | 14:38 |
| mtreinish | no one has ever tested it | 14:38 |
| edmondsw | is that what you were thinking of jokke_ ? | 14:38 |
| mtreinish | it should work fine | 14:38 |
| edmondsw | I notice it's not mentioned in the etherpad linked above | 14:39 |
| edmondsw | nor https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545483/ | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | nope | 14:39 |
| mtreinish | edmondsw: there is also: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531498/ which is a related fix | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | i was confusing the former with the latter | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | that change actually might have a shot for it ... I did as well | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will make some time to try this out today | 14:42 |
| edmondsw | rosmaita thanks! | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | and thanks to mtreinish for tracking this down | 14:43 |
| edmondsw | yes, thanks mtreinish | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | ok, continuing general discussion, as far as i can tell the glance channel is no longer being logged | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | yes, from last week I guess | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | fungi was looking into it yesterday, but i went off line and can't check the logs to see what he said! | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | ok, cool | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | did they run out of space for logs as well? | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | just mentioning that we may need some followup | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | no, i think it was the bot didn't have permissions or something afger the registration change | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | at least that was the first thought fungi had | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | ahh | 14:45 |
| jokke_ | the bot logging openstack-unregistered now ;P | 14:46 |
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| smcginnis | So we can say anything we want and there will be no record of it. :) | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | also I'll try to be there ofr next weeks meeting, won't be on the following 'though (the 6th of Sept or something like that) | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: I would not count on it :P | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | telegram etc. reaches if sometihng catches fire, otherwise I try to burn some PTO days before PTG | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | Should we skip right before the PTG as folks get ready for travel? | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | hopefully things will be pretty quiet | 14:49 |
| smcginnis | Or things to discuss to be ready for the PTG? | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, enjoy, have a nice time | 14:49 |
| jokke_ | Like said earlier I'll go through that ptg planning etherpad by monday and start finilizing the schedule for PTG | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | ok, good, so we can finalize next week and take week after off | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | I've been most of this week off and plan to do the same next week and then be totally off grid the week after :D | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | man, how much PTO do you get? | 14:51 |
| * rosmaita is jealous | 14:52 | |
| jokke_ | Fri next I will be driving ~850km North for the start of the Moose hunting season :D | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | won't that put you in the middle of the north sea? | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | guess you are in finland | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: including bank holidays (Irish version of the federal holidays you guys got) I think it's somewhere between 30-35 days a year | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | I am going offline now before change of my mood to work :P | 14:53 |
| smcginnis | abhishekk: o/ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | jokke_ not bad at all | 14:53 |
| jokke_ | yeah I'm in Funland ... there is still room to get about 1000km north before hitting the sea | 14:53 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, \o/ | 14:53 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk don;'t tell me you are in the mood to hunt some moose! | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, definitely but I need to travel 5000 km to north for that | 14:54 |
| jokke_ | LOL | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:54 |
| abhishekk | yeah, that's it, thank you all (at least I will hunt a beer not bear in remaining time) | 14:55 |
| jokke_ | sounds good | 14:56 |
| fungi | rosmaita: we seem to have a race in meetbot exposed by the registration enforcement | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | before you go, i could use some input on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594769/ | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | see my last comment on the patch | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | thanks all and I'll talk to you next week! | 14:56 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: will do | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | it's a glanceclient thing to use multihash for data validation | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | fungi thanks for looking ... race conditions are always fun! | 14:57 |
| abhishekk | will do | 14:57 |
| fungi | basically it starts trying to join channels immediately after identifying, before it gets back confirmation that it's identified, so the first channels it attempts to join don't work... i'm trying to figure out a solution | 14:57 |
| jokke_ | fungi: easy, just like any great sw project, just hardcode sleep in between :D | 14:57 |
| fungi | heh | 14:57 |
| fungi | 99% of the work is finding where to add the sleep call ;) | 14:58 |
| jokke_ | ok, thanks folks | 14:59 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 23 14:59:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-08-23-14.01.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-08-23-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-08-23-14.01.log.html | 14:59 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I noticed the same thing with the bot I have. It gets redirected before it has a chance to auth. | 14:59 |
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