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| jokke_ | Courtesy meeting reminder on #openstack-meeting-4: flwang1, jokke_, mclaren, mfedosin, nikhil_k, rosmaita, GB21, bpoulos, harshs, abhishekk, dshakhray, kairat, alex_bash, smcginnis, arcolife, Brin, Roamer` | 13:59 |
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| jokke_ | #startmeeting glance | 13:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 5 13:59:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jokke_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic roll-call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll-call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| jokke_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| McClymontS | o/ | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | I think we're good to go, everybody onboard :D | 14:00 |
| jokke_ | #topic updates | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
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| jokke_ | As expected nothing major has happened this week. | 14:01 |
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| jokke_ | Couple of things to point out. Abhishek has the multi back-end patches up, lets get the spec amendment and the implementation reviewed and merged | 14:02 |
| jokke_ | Then he also got the migitation for OSSN-0075 up which will need reviews as well and the hidden images | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | About that tomoki has tested multiple backend with cinder and it is working, he has replied to my mail as well | 14:03 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 14:03 |
| jokke_ | I have the v1 endpoint removals close to done and it's currently passing all but functional tests but more about that later | 14:03 |
| rosmaita | i'll test out ossn-0075 after the meeting | 14:04 |
| jokke_ | #topic release updates | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:04 | |
| rosmaita | periodic test report | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | client, store are all green | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | the cursive test that was failing last week for glance is now passing | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | there's an intermittent timeout failure in glance-tox-functional-py35-keystone-tips | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | it has passed, failed, passed, failed, passed over last few days | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | #link http://zuul.openstack.org/builds.html?pipeline=periodic&project=openstack%2Fglance&job_name=glance-tox-functional-py35-keystone-tips | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | i will keep an eye on it | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | doesn't look like anything to worry about yet | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | upcoming release deadlines | 14:06 |
| jokke_ | k | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | glance_store Rocky release 18 July (1 day less than 2 weeks away) | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | so that is coming fast | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | did you check yet what is timing out there? | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | looks like a timeout during the tests | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | couldn't tell exactly which one | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | without further looking | 14:07 |
| jokke_ | ok, so the store release, like said I'd like to get the release out rather next week than the following | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | actually, it could be something else entirely | 14:08 |
| jokke_ | yeah, lets keep eye on that and if it keeps going dig in bit deeper | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | right | 14:08 |
| rosmaita | ok, and in other release news, the glanceclient final release is the week after glance_store deadline | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | and that is also the week for Rocky-3 milestone | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | that's about it | 14:09 |
| jokke_ | thanks Brian | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | #link https://launchpad.net/glance-store/+milestone/0.25.0 | 14:10 |
| jokke_ | so Lets try to get the multi back-end store parts in, the we need to make the decision in which order we merge the glance stuff and what API versions we'll set | 14:10 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:11 |
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| abhishekk | ok | 14:11 |
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| abhishekk | rosmaita, similar kind of blueprint need to be created in glanceclient? | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | possibly | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | we're traditionally pretty cavalier with glanceclient | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:12 |
| jokke_ | oh and please lets try to have the release notes ready around when the changes themselves are good to go so we don't miss any | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i promised abhishekk that i will write up relnotes for this stuff | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | as usual we seem to be merging a lot at the last minute | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, +2 | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | that's the glance way | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | ! | 14:13 |
| jokke_ | ;) | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | between we need to modify hide old images specs to reflect 400 to 409 if hidden column is not present | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | I will do that tomorrow | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i'll do the relnote and admin doc for ossn-0075 while i;m testing later | 14:14 |
| jokke_ | sounds good to me | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk thanks for remembering that one | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | Also I have added a check to restrict queued images to be updated with hidden (which is not present in the spec as well) | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | how do you mean? | 14:16 |
| jokke_ | abhishekk: good point | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | means when image is created and before uploading data to it if someone tries to update image with hidden = True then it should be rejected | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | makes sense | 14:17 |
| jokke_ | ok anything else? | 14:18 |
| abhishekk | no | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | #topic open discussion | 14:19 |
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| jokke_ | I have couple of things here | 14:19 |
| jokke_ | 1) Once I finally got rid of the obvious test failures I stumbled upon something and got abhishekk double check it for me today as well | 14:20 |
| jokke_ | so we have this cache management command for glance | 14:20 |
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| jokke_ | which is still using v1 api so obviously no-one has reported using it as part of the v1 removal feedback what prevents them moving to v2 | 14:21 |
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| jokke_ | I think, for that reason, we should get rid of it as part of the v1 removal | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | it is broken for v2 as well, we need to get it functional | 14:22 |
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| jokke_ | abhishekk: did you find actual v2 implementation for it? | 14:22 |
| smcginnis | Lack of feedback makes me wonder if anyone is actually using that. | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | jokke_, i went through code and found something related to v2 in auth.py | 14:23 |
| jokke_ | yeah, what I mean is that the command itself is v1 only implementation | 14:24 |
| jokke_ | so taken into account we have had v1 api disabled by default for quite a while and no-one has even mentioned it not working indicates to me that we should just remove it with the API and if there is use case for it we can do it for v2 right at that point | 14:25 |
| abhishekk | ok | 14:26 |
| jokke_ | smcginnis: my take on this as well. Honestly I did not even remember that the command exists | 14:26 |
| smcginnis | It sounds useful, but maybe it's not actually needed? | 14:27 |
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| jokke_ | yeah, I'm not exactly sure how useful/meaningful manual cache management per api node is to anyone | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | kind of one of those things where you likely could use your time for something much more productive ;) | 14:28 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: what do you think? | 14:29 |
| rosmaita | i don't have an opinion | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | i think it's a LRU ejection strategy | 14:30 |
| jokke_ | LRU? | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | kicks out least recently used | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | what did the cache manager do, exactly? | 14:31 |
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| abhishekk | we have cache-cleaner, cache-prefetcher and cache-pruner as well | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | it just utility tool to show cached images or delete cached images | 14:32 |
| jokke_ | it allows you to list cached and queued images, delete images from cache and queue and add images to queue | 14:33 |
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| jokke_ | so literally just micromanage your cache on that node | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | the cache-prefetcher was going to be useful for edge computing (or am i mis-remembering) | 14:34 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: yeah, but it was never gonna be utilizing the cache_manage cli command (like said I did not even remember we had it) as it would be also touching only the local node glance service | 14:35 |
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| rosmaita | well, there does not seem to be an outpouring of support for the cache manager | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | you don't want to be sshing in to every glance node you want precache images :P | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | that's what parallel ssh is for! | 14:36 |
| jokke_ | LOL | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | yeah, i didn't really mean that | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | so let me summarize what i think the situation is | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | the glance cache manager tool has a strong dependency on v1, which is being removed in rocky. we don't have bandwidth to mess with it and we also believe that it's not much used | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | so the current situation is that we will include a release note saying the tool no longer exists in rocky | 14:38 |
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| jokke_ | that was my idea, but instead of just doing it I wanted to hear what you guys think first ;) | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | maybe the thing to do is to put up a spec-lite proposing removal, and send a link to the operator's list for comments | 14:39 |
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| rosmaita | we could aim for removal in Rocky-3 milestone | 14:39 |
| smcginnis | I would just lump it in as part of the v1 API deprecation and removal and just drop it. | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | my concern is that it's not obviously a v1 thing | 14:40 |
| rosmaita | it's independent functionality | 14:40 |
| smcginnis | Although a release note would be good to have to make sure if someone gets surprised it is gone they can have a chance to find out what happened to it. | 14:40 |
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| rosmaita | yeah, i agree that a release note is necessary | 14:41 |
| jokke_ | rosmaita: If you want note of it into the spec I can put amendment for it into the v1 removal spec on top of the reno | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, it's independent, but just looking at an excuse not to have to deprecate it in rocky and remove in stein when that wouldn't make sense. | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | no-one reads either anyways but at least we could point that it's mentioned in multiple places :P | 14:41 |
| smcginnis | jokke_: That sounds like a good plan to me. | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | agreed | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | me too | 14:41 |
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| jokke_ | gr8! | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | then the next thing | 14:42 |
| jokke_ | this has been hanging for long time, but I finally got abhishekk's test fixes encorporated to the patch that prevents us to launch the taskflow that we know will fail 557712 | 14:43 |
| jokke_ | pretty well contained patch so would greatly appreciate your review efforts on it as well. abhishekk already went through it | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:44 |
| smcginnis | Do you have a link handy? | 14:44 |
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| rosmaita | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557712/ | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | that looks like a good change | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | looks like it's up to me and sean since you and abhishekk are co-authors | 14:47 |
| jokke_ | yes, that's why I brought it up | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | if we end the meeting early, i will review it right now | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | you guys have lots of stuff to review :D | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | well that's all from me | 14:48 |
| jokke_ | anyone else? | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | nothing from me | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | I need to put another patch to deprecate stores and default_store options | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | ok, going first | 14:50 |
| smcginnis | Nothing from me. | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | going second | 14:50 |
| jokke_ | sold! Thanks all! | 14:51 |
| jokke_ | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 5 14:51:12 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-07-05-13.59.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-07-05-13.59.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2018/glance.2018-07-05-13.59.log.html | 14:51 |
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